Saddam has been caught - U.S

[ShotOver]

(CNN) -- Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein has possibly been captured in a raid near Tikrit, U.S. officials say.

However the officials cautioned on Sunday that the identity of the individual was still being confirmed.

The raid was based on intelligence that Saddam was at a particular location in the area, the officials said.

The announcement comes on the same day that 20 people were killed and 32 wounded by a car bomb outside an Iraqi police station west of Baghdad, an Iraqi police officer told CNN.

Sixteen policemen were among those killed in Sunday's explosion at Khaldiyah, 80 kilometers (50 miles) from the Iraqi capital, the officer added.

The police station is on a main road in the town which lies between Fallujah and Ramadi in the heart of the Sunni triangle, a hotbed of anti-coalition activity.

"About 8:30 (a.m.), a car bomb was detonated at Khaldiyah police station. We have some indication that it's a suicide bomber. But it's too early to give a final judgment," The Associated Press quoted Lt. Col. Jeff Swisher of the U.S. military as saying.

The U.S.-led coalition said a rapid reaction force had been sent to the area. None of its forces were involved, a spokesman added.

The bombing was the latest of several police station blasts that have killed dozens of officers in recent months.

Anti-U.S. assailants appear to target the police and other officials because they are regarded as collaborators with the U.S.-led occupation.

The blast came as U.S.- led coalition leaders said they were considering pay raises for members of the new Iraqi army after about half of the recruits resigned.

Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez said Saturday the exodus was primarily from married soldiers who were trying to support their families on $60 a month.

Meanwhile insurgent attacks are continuing to kill U.S. soldiers. On Friday a crude bomb went off near the town of Ramadi, about 100 km west of Baghdad, as a U.S. convoy traveled past.

Three soldiers were wounded in the blast, but one later died at a field hospital, the military said. The condition of the two other soldiers was not immediately released.

Earlier Friday, the military said a soldier with the U.S. Army's 1st Armored Division died from a "non-hostile gunshot wound." Further details about what happened were not available.

The two deaths brought to 455 the number of U.S. troops killed since the start of the Iraq war. Of those 312 have died from hostile fire, while 143 deaths have been classified as non-hostile.

There is no reliable source for Iraqi civilian or combatant casualty figures from the period of major combat or after May 1.

The Associated Press reported an estimated 3,240 civilian Iraqi deaths between March 20 and April 20, but the agency reported that the figure was based on records of only half of Iraq's hospitals and the actual number is thought to be significantly higher.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/index.html

[hood]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/3317429.stm


Saddam Hussein 'arrested in Iraq'


Ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has been arrested in Iraq, according to an unconfirmed report.
The former Iraqi leader was detained in his ancestral home town of Tikrit, the official Iranian news agency IRNA reported.

The US Defence Department said it had no confirmation of the report.

Saddam Hussein is the most wanted man on the list issued by US authorities but has not been seen since Baghdad fell to US forces in April.




Personally I think it's horrendously irresponsible for them to report such a thing without full confirmation. It's too big to get it wrong.

[Marshall]

Hood's link has been updated...


Intensive search

A spokeswoman for US-led coalition forces in Baghdad said that a "very important" announcement would be made at a news conference at 1200 GMT but would not give further details.

Nazem Dabag, representative in Iran of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) also said that Saddam Hussein had been arrested.

Saddam Hussein has been the subject of intensive searches by US-led forces in Iraq but previous attempts to locate him have proved unsuccessful.

On 22 July his sons, Uday and Qusay, were killed in a raid by US forces in the northern city of Mosul.

[FallenAngel]

If it's true....someone's going to get a medal. :D

If it's not true....it's the biggest **** tease of the year. :(

[Kriz]

Maybe it's one of his doubles :)

[Frens]

if it's true.... I will have a party and I'll get drunk!!!!!!!!!! woot

[Argyll]

Sound good men!!
Congrats to the TF20/121 guys and the US Military!!

[TRACER_BULLET]

woot if its true ...when i get off work in a few hours i'll have a few to many drinks to celebrate :D

[Trident-za]

Man, if true this will really be something :)

[sunnysandy]

They havent confirmed it yet,he was wearing a false beard or something.

[duck]

I see this as a moment of truth. The capture of Saddam will finally shed light on the WMD and Al Qaeda contacts issues that were behind the Iraqi war. President Bush must be looking forward to the moment when Saddam reveals all and the accusations end.

[SFontaine]

President of Iraqi Governing Council reports DNA tests have been done, which say it is indeed Saddam.

**** I was about to head to bed now I can't :D

[Argyll]

Tony B;air has just confirmed the capture of Saddam Hussein!!!! woot

[Frens]

woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot

[TRACER_BULLET]

woot woot woot

[Ichhabe]

Joy to the world!!!

[FallenAngel]

woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot

[Fargin]

seems like it.

DNA says it's Saddam, waiting for Paul Bremer to confirm

[Chris1]

Tony B;air has just confirmed the capture of Saddam Hussein!!!! woot
Yep
Nice :)
Not going to get **** all out of him and if his trial lasts as long as Slobo's we'll be lucky if he doesn't croak first :)

[TRACER_BULLET]

arg .. i dont have the news here at work ... keep me posted !! :D

[Shake n Bake]

Tack this one under "The year of accomplishment"

[hood]

The officials said the former leader, who during his rule slept in lush palaces while many ordinary Iraqis lived in poverty, was found "cowering" in a basement in a home raided by coalition soldiers. The sources said coalition forces were "testing" the person believed to be Saddam to confirm his identity.

News of the potential capture made its way around Iraq like wildfire, with Iraqis in Tikrit and the capital city, Baghdad, celebrating the news by firing guns into the air.

Iraqi Governing Council (search) member Dara Noor al-Din told The Associated Press that the council was informed of the former dictator's capture in a telephone call from L. Paul Bremer (search), the U.S. administrator for Iraq.

"Bremer has confirmed to the Governing Council that Saddam was captured in Tikrit," Noor al-Din said. "He spoke on the phone to several members, including Ahmad Chalabi."

[Shake n Bake]

We need pics

[TRACER_BULLET]

yes pics !! .. keep the info comming hood :D thanks

[Argyll]

We need beer!! woot

[TRACER_BULLET]

We need beer!! woot


:hug: i'll buy ! woot woot

[SFontaine]

All the CNN Correspondants have Bullet proof vests on cause they heard shootin in the background.

Good day indeed.

[ShotOver]

Good old TF20, ya all think?

[SFontaine]

Regular 4th Infantry

[ShotOver]

Awesome, THose guys have been there since the start.

Good job to them woot

[SFontaine]

4th ID Shipped out round the end of March or April. Can't remember which.

[Eddie]

Can't say anything else but woot woot woot

[Argyll]

SFontaine
It has already been said it was SF!
An Op of this magnitude is not done by regular troops,they will provide the cordon and back up but the "snatch2 was done by SOF !

[TRACER_BULLET]

SFontaine
It has already been said it was SF!
An Op of this magnitude is not done by regular troops,they will provide the cordon and back up but the "snatch2 was done by SOF !

:D agryll keep the info comming ... like i said i dont have the news at work

[Herrmannek]

This is good news! :)

[SFontaine]

Well I just heard on CNN that it was 4th ID Troops and all the pics of the celebraring soldiers after the raid seemd to be regular troops so I dunno.

[Saranof]

YAY :D :D :D

[hood]

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/top.tikrit.raid.2.jpg


"He was in a cellar of the building. His appearance was such that it made it not immediately certain you could say it was Saddam Hussein," one senior U.S. official said, adding there were reports Saddam was wearing some sort of beard that disguised his identity. But some marks on the man's body and other information gave the U.S. military its first confirmation they might have their target, officials said.

[Herrmannek]

So how we deal with him:

1)USA will take him to guantanamo and will keep him there without court martial until he die?
2)USA give him to UN and Sadam get small sentence big house near the sea with all luxuries.
3)USA gave him to Iraqis to court martial him,then Iraqis sentence him death, shot him on site, and will drag his dead body around the streets :)

[duck]

First priority is to get Saddam to talk on the WMDs and possible Al Qaeda contacts. These are the two reasons for the whole war so they have to be cleared.

[oldsoak]

Good ! - woot I hope they have well and truly nicked the b*st**d . Thank heavens he didnt make it out to the UK and claim political asylum - we've never be rid of the b*st**d. Keep him healthy and fit for trial - its been a long time coming :D
rgds

[Argyll]

3 please!
Ok SFontaine you think that the TF 20/121 will hang around?
In "Grab and Snatch"
Out and away from the view of the media ASAP.The celebrating troops will no doubt be the cordon boys,and some other assetts,but the SF guys will be long gone with their "catch",for security reasons they would have been out og there in less than 5-10 mins,so they will not hang around!

[ShotOver]

AP - Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has been detained in Iraq, Iran's official news agency says. The report was confirmed by a member of the Iraqi Governing Council.

"Saddam Hussein was arrested in his hometown of Tikrit," the Islamic Republic News Agency quoted Iraqi Kurdish leader Jalal Talabani as saying. The IRNA report said Saddam was arrested in his hometown of Tikrit.

Talabani also said the US occupation forces have confirmed the report.

"Americans have said that the arrest will be officially announced in the next few hours," IRNA quoted Talabani as saying.

In the Iraqi capital Baghdad, a spokeswoman for the US-led occupation notified reporters that a "very important" announcement will be made at a news conference scheduled for 3pm (2300 AEDT) but did not say who would be the speaker. The spokeswoman requested anonymity.




Nasir Chadarchi, a member of the Iraqi Governing Council, said on Al-Arabiya television, "I have received confirmed news about the arrest of Saddam".

Nazem Dabbagh, a representative of Talabani's Patriotic Union of Kurdestan, confirmed Talabani's statements when reached by phone by an Associated Press reporter in Tehran.

"We are sure that Saddam has been detained. Details will be released later," Dabbagh said.

IRNA said Talabani broke the news to IRNA in the Iraqi city of al-Mundhariya. The agency filed the report from Qasr-e-Shirin, a town in western Iran bordering Iraq.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/World/story_51882.asp

[Argyll]

I got a side question here?
Where did all the AK's come from that "locals" were firing into the air?Were they not all supposed to have been confiscated by the US?

[ShotOver]

Iraqi Police? Off-duty or somthing..

[Shake n Bake]

I got a side question here?
Where did all the AK's come from that "locals" were firing into the air?Were they not all supposed to have been confiscated by the US?


I think every family is allowed to have an ak

[Adri]

So how we deal with him:

1)USA will take him to guantanamo and will keep him there without court martial until he die?
2)USA give him to UN and Sadam get small sentence big house near the sea with all luxuries.
3)USA gave him to Iraqis to court martial him,then Iraqis sentence him death, shot him on site, and will drag his dead body around the streets :)

I hope for nr 2, but I don't think they will be that nice to him, they do got cells to keep him the rest of his life, and most of his crimes have been agains both iraqi civilians and other countries... he sould got his penalty at the international cort.

but good job !!!

[ShotOver]

Why do they need one?

The AK isnt a hunting rifle, so why should every family have one? What are they protecting themselves against?

[hood]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031214/capt.sge.ogw33.141203104148.photo00.default-384x256.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031214/capt.sge.ogw33.141203104148.photo01.default-384x256.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031214/capt.sge.ogw33.141203104148.photo02.default-384x256.jpg

[Fargin]

LAIDES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT HIM!

[hood]

I wonder if blasting loud rock music was used this time. :)

[Javehn]

ladies and gentlemen , we got him !!

[Fargin]

13.16 here, to early for a beer?

[ShotOver]

whats with the blood?

[TRACER_BULLET]

13.16 here, to early for a beer?

no way ! like i said when i get off work in a few hours i'm buying :D

[LJK]

Finaly! woot woot

[Seiyuuki]

woot woot woot woot woot woot woot :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: woot woot woot woot :hug: :hug: woot woot

[Fargin]

I got an actuall six-pack of bud in the fridge, today we drink American beer. It's on me.

[ShadowNeo]

Hopefully this will silence some of the critics of the war, maybe even bring us closer to finding those elusive WoMD.

Of course, it may sour things somewhat if they discover that he's been sitting in a house in Tikrit under their noses all this time (unlikely of course, but still.....).

[Magua]

It's never too early for beer

[Javehn]

Damn , he's look ugly !!
Surtainly looks like him- or maybe not ..... Hahahahaha

:fork:

[TRACER_BULLET]

rofl rofl

[Shake n Bake]

Why do they need one?

The AK isnt a hunting rifle, so why should every family have one? What are they protecting themselves against?



Iraq is an unstable place..

Looters, ba'ath party militants, Police force not working at full force, uncertainty ...I sure as hell would want to be armed

[Chris1]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39633000/jpg/_39633917_saddamgrab203.jpg

[hood]

Here's your task force..


Forces from the 4th Infantry Division along with Special Forces captured Saddam, the U.S. military said. There were shots fired or injuries in the raid, called "Operation Red Dawn," said Lt. Gen. Richardo Sanchez.

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2003/images/12/14/top.2.saddam.video.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/images/110521/9_1_hussein_saddam_captured.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39633000/jpg/_39633917_saddamgrab203.jpg

[SOG]

hell yeah!

http://www.redknightentertainment.com/rkewerks/sitphiles/sadammcaughtcheers.jpg

[Javehn]

Interesting what they doing with him ...
Kicking the **** out of him or just torchure him ??

[ShadowNeo]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39633000/jpg/_39633917_saddamgrab203.jpg

If his hair was white and he had a red suit, he could have fooled me as to who he was....

[Falco]

I just saw it on the new, some of the Iraqi were pointing at the TV durung the press conference and they were cheering. Maybe now the suicide bombing will end.

[ShadowNeo]

http://www.shadowneo.com/files/omgsanta.jpg

[Argyll]

Hood
Sanchez said there wer NO shots fired at all!! ;)

Operation RED DAWN.....................excellent name!
WOLVERINE 1&2....a band of kids turned "insurgents" ironic huh?

Congratulations to those who took part.

Interesting point from Sanchez" Coalition Special Forces" and not US SF,
could he be meaning TF 121?

[mocking_loudly_died]

I'M F*CKING DRUNK!

Take that you stinky fat old dictator with no balls.

[ShotOver]

The only santa who gives presants people dont want to open.

[Fargin]

I'M F*CKING DRUNK!

Take that you stinky fat old dictator with no balls.

Wait up I'm only at #2

[TRACER_BULLET]

I'M F*CKING DRUNK!

Take that you stinky fat old dictator with no balls.

Wait up I'm only at #2

lol i dont get off work for an hour still ... i'm gonna have alot of catch'n up to do p-)

[Henk]

Hood
Sanchez said there wer NO shots fired at all!! ;)

Operation RED DAWN.....................excellent name!
WOLVERINE 1&2....a band of kids turned "insurgents" ironic huh?

Congratulations to those who took part.

Interesting point from Sanchez" Coalition Special Forces" and not US SF,
could he be meaning TF 121?

Isn't that Hollywood???
_________________________
The best weapon is the mind.

[ShotOver]

I drank too much last night, got Alcohol poisoning... so i cant drink for awhile.


World leaders hail Saddam capture


AFP - Jubilant world leaders hailed Sunday the capture of Saddam Hussein, the former Iraqi dictator who evaded US-led forces for months, and voiced hope it would bring stability to the war-torn country.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him," the US civil administrator Paul Bremer said at a news conference in Baghdad to whoops of delight from assembled media.

Saddam, 66, was captured alive, dug out of an underground hole near his hometown of Tikrit on Saturday night by US forces and is currently being held in an undisclosed location, he said.

Celebratory shots and cries of joy rang out over Baghdad and other towns as Iraqis learnt of the capture of the man who ruled them with an iron fist for almost a quarter of a century.

"This is a great day in Iraq's history," Bremer said. "For decades hundreds of thousands of you suffered at the hand of this cruel man.




"Those days are over for ever."

US forces showed footage at the Baghdad press conference of a dishevelled bearded Saddam undergoing medical checks, prompting several Iraqis in the audience to shout "Death to Saddam, Death to Saddam!"

"This is very good news for the people of Iraq. It removes the shadow that has been hanging over them for too long of the nightmare of a return to the Saddam regime," British Prime Minister Tony Blair said.

"It also gives an opportunity for Saddam to be tried in Iraqi courts for his crimes against the Iraqi people," he said in a statement. "And it gives us an opportunity to take a step forward in Iraq."

The head of Iraq's US-installed interim Governing Council, Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, said in Madrid that DNA tests had confirmed that the man captured by US forces in Tikrit was "the criminal" Saddam.

Hakim predicted Saddam's arrest would boost attempts to restore democracy to Iraq.

"Without a doubt attacks will diminish. This is a big blow to terrorists in Iraq. It is a great day for humanity and the Iraqi people," said Hakim, whose delegation will visit France, Germany and Italy later this week.

The capture comes eight months after Saddam was ousted after a US-led invasion on Iraq, in which Blair was US President George W. Bush's staunchest ally.

Iraq has been rocked by almost daily attacks against US forces and their allies blamed on militants loyal to Saddam, the man listed as the ace of spades on the US most wanted list with a $US25 million ($A33.9 million) price on his head.

NATO chief George Robertson said the capture was "excellent news" and will help to stabilise Iraq.

"In as far as this is confirmed, Mr Robertson welcomes this excellent news which is going to help Iraq regain stability," his spokesman told AFP.

Iraqi Governing Council member Ahmed Chalabi said Saddam would be tried in public.

"He was arrested without resistance and there was enough time for him before that to commit suicide if he wanted but he did not," Chalabi told Iraqi TV.

"The nightmare that was haunting the Iraqi people has been lifted. Saddam is under arrest and he will tried publicly and punished for his crimes," he said.

Blair called for the Sunni community in Iraq and former members of Saddam's Baath party "to grasp the opportunity for reconciliation."

"We should try now to unite the whole of Iraq in rebuilding the country and offering it a new future," he said.

French President Jacques Chirac, who drew US ire for his vehement opposition to the US-led war, "is rejoicing in the arrest of Saddam Hussein," his spokeswoman Catherine Colonna said.

"It is a major event," Colonna said.

Israeli President Moshe Katzav also expressed delight at Saddam's arrest, saying it served as a warning to sponsors of international terrorism.

"It is excellent news for Israel and is proof that the international community will not tolerate a totalitarian state which backs international terrorism," Katsav told public radio.

Israel regarded Iraq as its number one enemy before the downfall of Saddam's regime and was the target of 29 Scud missile attacks during the 1991 Gulf War.



©AAP 2003

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/World/story_53793.asp

[mocking_loudly_died]

Man, I'm wasted.

You guys have to fly over and get hammered with me.

BEER IS LIFE!

[MARINO]

Good day for us Coalition Forces bad Day for France and Germany, Next step Osama

[Ballistic]

Bloody brilliant work !! :D

Cheers to the men who got the job done. It took a while, but better late than never.

:D :D :D

[Nizark]

**** YEAH!!!!! http://ad.debka.com/pictures_e/S1.jpg LOOK AT THAT SANTA CLAUSE LOOKING MOTHER****ER!

BEERS B A FLOWING

[TRACER_BULLET]

Man, I'm wasted.

You guys have to fly over and get hammered with me.

BEER IS LIFE!

LOL@mocking .... woot woot :hug: :hug: on my way ...er wait i'm still at work

[khukuri]

as an iraki this is one of the best things that happend my life! :P


THANK YOU AMERICA

[Operation Ivy]

HELL YEA woot woot woot

Go America!!! woot woot woot

[Shake n Bake]

Hood

Operation RED DAWN.....................excellent name!
WOLVERINE 1&2....a band of kids turned "insurgents" ironic huh?



Wolverine 1-2 are the names of the locations




A family that terrorizes together, Dies together


http://www.foxnews.com/projects/photo_essay2/121403_saddam/photos/saddam4.jpg

[hood]

Videos of Bremer's and Sanchez's speeches:


http://66.230.216.3/121403/bremer_presser_121403_300.wmv

http://66.230.216.3/121403/sanchez_presser_121403_300.wmv

[khukuri]

I saw sanchez live on al-jazeera--- heh damn that felt good.

I think that they should put the trial in IRAQ sence it was the iraki people he opressed most.

[Operation Ivy]

Man i wish i had al-jazeera i want to see what there saying :D

[mocking_loudly_died]

I want to know who the international blokes were on the mission.

Could it be the Regiment? - me wonders.

:D

[khukuri]

I brief


First all the reporters where shouting, hell yea, ****ing dictator, this is the best thing, but in arabic of course :)

People asked stupid questions like will the attaks end, what will happen, he didnt have any info.

One reporter said an intresting thing, that it was his wife who revealed his position. Another thing that was mentionen by questions by the reporters that it wasent planned, they stumbled on the place

[TRACER_BULLET]

Videos of Bremer's and Sanchez's speeches:


http://66.230.216.3/121403/bremer_presser_121403_300.wmv

http://66.230.216.3/121403/sanchez_presser_121403_300.wmv

woohoo finally some video woot thanks hood

[Operation Ivy]

The Spanish government, another supporter of the war, also hailed the news.


"It is a great day for humankind," said Spanish Foreign Minister Ana Palacio. "The horrible shadow of this bloody dictator is going to vanish."


France, which has had a rocky relationship with the United States since it led the opposition to the war, said the capture would help stabilize the country and lead to its sovereignty.


"It's a major event that should strongly contribute to democracy and stability in Iraq and allow the Iraqis to master their destiny in a sovereign Iraq," French President Jacques Chirac said in a statement.


German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, another foe of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, congratulated President Bush (news - web sites) on Saddam's capture.


"With much happiness I learned about the arrest of Saddam Hussein," Schroeder wrote in a letter to Bush released by the German government. "I congratulate you on this successful action."


Japan, Australia and other countries also were quick to applaud the news of Saddam's capture, as a video showing a bearded Saddam being examined by a doctor was broadcast on news channels.


"We're absolutely thrilled that Saddam Hussein has been captured," Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said in a statement. "And his capture has the potential to change the situation on the ground."


News of Saddam's capture also reverberated among the 500 delegates and other dignitaries at the opening session of Afghanistan (news - web sites)'s historic constitutional council, being held in Kabul.


Afghan Interior Minister Ali Ahmad Jalali said the arrest would help improve security in Afghanistan by dampening the ability of militant groups to recruit fighters here.





"What happens in Iraq is also something to do with the situation in Afghanistan. Since the war in Iraq, the terrorist organizations have tried to open a new front in Afghanistan, so any failure of terrorism in Iraq is going to effect the situation in Afghanistan," Jalali told The Associated Press.

In San Diego, Alan Zangana, a 48-year-old Kurd who fled Iraq in 1981, said the phone at his Chula Vista home started ringing early Sunday with people sharing the reports that Saddam had been captured.

"I have been waiting for this for the last 35 years," said Zangana, director of Kurdish Human Rights Watch in the San Diego suburb of El Cajon.

Saddam instituted a policy of genocide against the Kurds and Zangana said oppression in his oil-rich hometown of Kirkuk was severe.

"Nobody is going to be happy today like the Kurds," Zangana said. "He killed a lot of us."

The tribunal would cover crimes committed from July 17, 1968 — the day Saddam's Baath Party came to power — until May 1, 2003 — the day President Bush declared major hostilities over, said Abdel-Aziz al-Hakim, the current president of the Iraqi Governing Council. Saddam became president in 1979 but wielded vast influence starting from the early 1970s.






woot France and Germany being nice to us :D

[hood]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031214/capt.bag10512141341.topix_iraq_saddam_capture_bag105.jpg http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031214/capt.bag10412141335.mideast_iraq_saddam_bag104.jpg

And the 8 feet deep hole they found him in:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031214/capt.lon81112141327.iraq_saddam_capture_lon811.jpg

[California Joe]

Looking pretty rough these days isn't he.

[Vance]

YEAH GUYS! GOOD JOB!!! woot woot

[hood]

http://www.studentengids.nl/IMAGESERVER/uploads/1071405498.jpg

[NcDeuce]

woot woot woot woot woot

Good job to everyone involved!

Hooah!

And to all those who doubted us...**** you

http://www.foxnews.com/images/110521/20_26_121403_iraqis.jpg
Iraqis dance in the streets of Baghdad after learning that Saddam Hussein had been captured.

[Dalleer]

I just heard of this, and I've got to say that the US forces did a very good job, excellent I might even say.

As for Saddam Hussein, I hope that this bastard will finally be given to the Kurds and delivered to a very painful, but altogether short dead...

The world should indeed have something to celebrate today.

[dez000]

Hehe, finally got that bitch ass ****er! woot

But isn't it a bit dumb to announce the capture? Terrorist or Saddam's followers might perform attacks to demand his release and such...

Anyways glad they caught him!

[Kriz]

http://www.studentengids.nl/IMAGESERVER/uploads/1071405498.jpg

F*cking great rofl

[S'13]

This is one hell of a Christmas/Hanukkah present the U.S has given to the world... :D woot p-)

[Seoulstriker]

damn, i just got the news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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[Argyll]

I wonder what will happen in a few days when the Euphoria dies down? :(

[Salty Dog]

it will never die. he kind of looks like the unibomber, ted kazinski (?)

great job, we're all very happy. but it will be incredibly interesting to see how insurgents will react. will they throw down their weapons, or will they plan more, and larger attacks? and it will be interesting so see what becomes of saddam, and the process of interrogating him and what not.

[USMarine3521]

whoaaaa! woot woot

just in time for the holidays as well!

good job army! (damn that was hard to say :-*$ :lol: woot )

[Seoulstriker]

don't know if this was posted already....

http://www.foxnews.com/images/110521/21_1_121403_hussein5.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,105706,00.html



Sunday, December 14, 2003



BAGHDAD, Iraq — Without firing a single shot, U.S. forces captured Saddam Hussein (search) as he hid in the bottom of a hole in a home near Tikrit, officials announced Sunday at a Baghdad press conference.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him," L. Paul Bremer (search), the U.S. administrator in Iraq, announced.

"The tyrant is a prisoner," Bremer said.

The former Iraqi dictator was captured Saturday at 8:30 p.m. in the cellar of a farmhouse in the town of Adwar (search), 10 miles from Tikrit, ending one of the most intense manhunts in history. Saddam has been on the run since the fall of Baghdad to U.S. forces on April 9.

Officials showed a videotape of Saddam, the most-wanted figure by the U.S.-led coalition, as he was being inspected following his capture. The 66-year-old had a long black-and-gray beard and unkempt black hair. Journalists were then shown a video of Saddam after he was shaved.

Iraqi journalists in the audience stood, pointed and shouted "Death to Saddam!" and "Down with Saddam!"

In the capital, radio stations played celebratory music, residents fired small arms in the air in celebration, and others drove through the streets, shouting, "They got Saddam! They got Saddam!"

President Bush (search) learned Saturday afternoon that Saddam might have been seized, and he got the news early Sunday that the military had confirmed that Saddam was in custody. Bush will address the nation on Saddam's capture at noon Sunday.

"The Iraqi people can finally be assured that Saddam Hussein will not be coming back -- they can see it for themselves," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "Saddam Hussein was a brutal, oppressive dictator responsible for decades of atrocities."

British Prime Minister Tony Blair (search) hailed the capture, saying Saddam "has gone from power, he won't be coming back."

"Where his rule meant terror and division and brutality, let his capture bring about unity, reconciliation and peace between all the people of Iraq," Blair told reporters at his 10 Downing St. office.

• Photo Essay: Saddam Hussein Captured

Operation Red Dawn

About 600 U.S. troops took part in Operation Red Dawn, said Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez (search), the top American general in Iraq. Two other unidentified Iraqis were captured along with Saddam and authorities confiscated two Kalashnikov rifles, a pistol, a taxi, and $750,000 in U.S. currency at the site.

The operation began after the military received tips from local residents as well as unspecified intelligence, Sanchez said. About 90 minutes after receiving the intelligence, the military launched the raid.

Troops with Task Force 2, the special forces unit set up to go after Saddam, surrounded a farmhouse and looked for the ex-dictator in two specific locations -- dubbed Wolverine One and Wolverine Two -- but initially did not locate him.

The search of the home continued and troops discovered something in the ground called a "spider hole." The hole was six to eight feet deep, with enough space to lie down, camouflaged with bricks and dirt and supplied with an air vent to allow long periods inside.

Saddam was in the hole. He admitted his identity when he was captured, a U.S. defense official said.

Sanchez said he had no idea how long Saddam had been at the home in Adwar and could not say if anyone had stepped forward to claim the $25 million dollar reward for his capture.

"Today is a great day for Iraq and the Iraqi people," Sanchez said.

Asked about Saddam's state at the time of his capture, Sanchez said: "He was a tired man, a man resigned to his fate."

Saddam is talkative and is being cooperative, the general said. He is being held at an undisclosed location.

"This success brings closure to the Iraqi people," Sanchez said.

"Saddam Hussein will never return to a position of power from which he can punish, terrorize, intimidate and exploit the Iraqi people as the did for more than 35 years."

Washington hopes Saddam's capture will help break the organized Iraq resistance that has killed more than 190 American soldiers since Bush declared major combat over on May 1 and has set back efforts at reconstruction. U.S. commanders have said that while in hiding Saddam played some role in the guerrilla campaign blamed on his followers.

In the latest attack, a suspected suicide bomber detonated explosives in a car outside a police station Sunday morning west of Baghdad, killing at least 17 people and wounding 33 more, the U.S. military said.

'Saddam Will Stand Public Trial'

Ahmad Chalabi (search), a member of Iraq's Governing Council, said that Saddam will be put on trial.

"Saddam will stand a public trial so that the Iraqi people will know his crimes," said Chalabi told Al-Iraqiya, a Pentagon-funded TV station.

A delegation of the council hopes to visit Saddam in captivity later Sunday, a spokesman for the council said.

"With the arrest of Saddam, the source financing terrorists has been destroyed and terrorist attacks will come to an end. Now we can establish a durable stability and security in Iraq," said council member Jalal Talabani.

Saddam proved elusive during the war, when at least two dramatic military strikes came up empty in their efforts to assassinate him. Since then, he has appeared in both video and audio tapes. U.S. officials named him No. 1 on their list of 55 most-wanted Iraqis, the lead card in a special deck of most-wanted cards.

Saddam's sons Qusai and Odai -- each with a $15 million bounty on their heads -- were killed July 22 in a four-hour gunbattle with U.S. troops in a hideout in the northern city of Mosul. The bounties were paid out to the man who owned the house where they were killed, residents said.

Adnan Pachachi, a Governing Council member, said Saddam's capture will bring stability to Iraq.

"The state of fear, intelligence and oppression is gone forever," Pachachi said. "The Iraqi people are very happy and we look forward to a future of national reconciliation between Iraqis in order to build the new and free Iraq, an Iraq of equality."

In Baghdad, residents fired small arms in the air in celebration, and gunfire echoed in neighborhoods across the city. Earlier in the day, rumors of the capture sent people streaming into the streets of Kirkuk, a northern Iraqi city, firing guns in the air in celebration.

"We are celebrating like it's a wedding," said Kirkuk resident Mustapha Sheriff. "We are finally rid of that criminal."

"This is the joy of a lifetime," said Ali Al-Bashiri, another resident. "I am speaking on behalf of all the people that suffered under his rule."

[NcDeuce]

Great job by the 4th Infantry and special operations forces in the raid.

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/photo_essay2/121403_saddam/photos/121403_hussein6.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/photo_essay2/121403_saddam/photos/121403_hussein.jpg

The Democrats have been awfully quiet on the news...

http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~leal/bill/2000_vote/democrat-seal.gif

[HooyahCQB]

Frikin' A. I hope he is detained in a US prison in Michael's cell!

[HooyahCQB]

Oh yeah...forgot- GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!

[Steve Andrews]

Red Dawn? Wolverines?

Oh dear...
http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/reddawnroberttt.jpg

http://www.patrickswayze.net/Movies/dawn3.jpg

[Argyll]

Looks like a man whos been told Santa Clause doesn't exist!! woot

[Vance]

And now....to celebrate.


http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif http://24.58.163.208/upload/ak.gif

[ibstolidude]

ALLAH AKBAR!

ALLAH AKBAR!


I can't wait to see the Aljazeera take.

[LongWayToTheTop]

meh

[UoUo]

This for One....trnslate that for the rest of the users...


Kol kalb bi ji yomo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot
woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot

[S'13]

This for One....trnslate that for the rest of the users...


Kol kalb bi ji yomo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot
woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot

rofl rofl rofl

[Argyll]

bollox never mind one tell us!! ;)

[Vance]

http://www.iownjoo.com/auctionimghost/groundpounder/saddamowned.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/patsheehan/gandalfsad.jpg

http://members.cox.net/ikillpeople/saddamclaus.jpg

http://members.cox.net/miscjunk/owned.jpg

[Durandal]

I'll be damned. I slept in late today. This is the best news.

[Shadow]

Time to say Goodbye,Saddam! woot

[cut]

http://www.shadowneo.com/files/omgsanta.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39634000/jpg/_39634865_saddamchin203.jpg

christmas has come early!

[Scrim]

Great news to wake up to. :D

[Seoulstriker]

Great news to wake up to. :D


when i checked the foxnews.com website when i woke up, i was ready to start shouting, but my dorm has 24hr quiet time during finals week, so i had to jump for joy. :D :D :D :D :D

[UoUo]

I heard that in school....so we run into the computer room...and print some pic's of sadam...then we start painting on them somting like "sadam is gay" and stuff :oops: (hey ! i am just a child !!) and hang them all over the school....


woot

[ST4]

TASK FORCE 121

Thanks guys on a great raid... and now bid Laden, your next!

[Nawlins]

FIL called me this morning to tell me the good news. Excellent job to all the men that helped bring him in.

Looks like he's aged about 30 years since the last photos were taken.

[Jack Mehoff]

woot

[Dalleer]

Operation "Red dawn" must've been real swift action from the TF121's side, I hope that there would be some operational photos from this published soon.

[usa320]

PWNED!!!

Nice to see the photoshoppers hard at work already.

[usa320]

i bet mortimer killed himself after seeing how stupid his rubish sounded in retrospect.

[California Joe]

I can't wait for Operation Dirty Dancing.

[Jack Mehoff]

I can't wait for Operation Dirty Dancing.

Nawlins and farmgirl gladly to oblige.....i hope

[He219]

Operation 'Red Dawn'
:lol:

http://www.defendamerica.mil/images/photos/dec2003/index/ii121403c.jpg

Great Job Guys!!

woot woot woot

[Argyll]

Jack what did you change your avatar for I liked the card one better!

woot 3 cheers for the TF 121 lads!! woot
woot 3 cheers for the 4th ID woot
woot 3 cheers for the US Military woot

[California Joe]

Jack what did you change your avatar for I liked the card one better!

woot 3 cheers for the TF 121 lads!! woot
woot 3 cheers for the 4th ID woot
woot 3 cheers for the US Military woot

We have those cards on the wall at work. Heh.

[budanski]

Whats new guys? ;)

Great News. I'd "give" Saddam the option to either spill the beans on what countries were involved in what and be held by the U.S. or be turned over to the Iraqi people and let them retaliate to 3 decades of oppression.

[California Joe]

Admit it, you did a search on "Dirty Dancing" and it landed you here.

How's everything pal?

[Seraphim]

Woot Woot! woot

[ST4]

http://www.defendamerica.mil/images/photos/dec2003/index/ii121403c.jpg

woot Its over, you lose Saddam! woot

[budanski]

Admit it, you did a search on "Dirty Dancing" and it landed you here.

How's everything pal?

I was looking for the movie "Red Dawn" actually. Its Patrick Swayze week for me, the missus, and baby. :D

everythings great. hope thing are the same with you. wife polishing the helmet yet? ;)

[Operation Ivy]

I wish instead of Operation Red Dawn they called it Operation Ivy woot :D

[budanski]

I dont think any tanks were involved. ;)

[Ratamacue]

Game, set, match. GET SOME!

[DE_Six]

Ain't the sun shining a li'l brighter this morning?
Now that's some great stuff to wake up to, indeed!

Big cheers to all those involved in his capture woot woot woot woot !!

[DE_Six]

http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/images/smilies/banana.gif

http://sc.msn.com/1C/U]2!LOVT8T4T_1H{SF~T]-.jpg

http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/images/smilies/banana.gif

[DE_Six]

About 600 4th Infantry Division soldiers and Special Operations forces from Task Force 121 conducted the raid in Adwar, near a compound of ramshackle buildings, about 9 miles outside Saddam's hometown of Tikrit, on Saturday night.



From CNN.com. Hard to confirm info, but that would make sense.

[to free the oppressed]

I dont think any tanks were involved.
I think there were tanks, when we captured Saddam.
Ok we have Saddam, But where is his gay lover Usama Bin Laden, oh well. We will find him later, but in the mean time lets go get drunk :D

[Vance]

Okay, does anyone see these pictures of him and have just a little bit of pity? :|

[StarvingStudent47]

BAD BOYS BAD BOYS, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you...


woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot

[Operation Ivy]

I dont think any tanks were involved. ;)

Well they were invisble so if Saddam tried to run cause there no tanks around they would suddenly appear and shoot him :D

[Argyll]

He looks pitiful but deserves what's coming to him,I hope this will not be a hollow victory?
Vance a very strange question to pose,and powerfull too,is it to start Saddam Bashing or a genuine question,of whether we as human beings realise that this was once the most powerfull man in the Middle East,who has lost everything he had?

He also has a potential to open up a huge diplomatic can of worms ,by naming those who supported him during his evil reign,who supplied him with the equipment and the know how to begin his WMD program,there maybe stuff that will come out that we will all not like what we hear!

[jlanni]

He also has a potential to open up a huge diplomatic can of worms ,by naming those who supported him during his evil reign,who supplied him with the equipment and the know how to begin his WMD program,there maybe stuff that will come out that we will all not like what we hear!

thats very true. hopefully it does come down to that. so that we can eliminate the links to terror. and hopefully we can eventually stableize the middle east and never have to go back in the future. in doing that hopefully we leave a better world for the future generations

[Kriz]

He also has a potential to open up a huge diplomatic can of worms ,by naming those who supported him during his evil reign,who supplied him with the equipment and the know how to begin his WMD program,there maybe stuff that will come out that we will all not like what we hear!

thats very true. hopefully it does come down to that. so that we can eliminate the links to terror. and hopefully we can eventually stableize the middle east and never have to go back in the future. in doing that hopefully we leave a better world for the future generations

If you wanna stabilize the middle east then you have to handle the palestinian/israeli conflict for good!

[Trident-za]

He also has a potential to open up a huge diplomatic can of worms ,by naming those who supported him during his evil reign,who supplied him with the equipment and the know how to begin his WMD program,there maybe stuff that will come out that we will all not like what we hear!


Im quite sure that we will only get to hear a highly "sanitized" version of the interrogation results. Even so, I imaqgine there are a number of governments/politicians/companies that are feeling a touch nervous right now :)

[Seoulstriker]

He also has a potential to open up a huge diplomatic can of worms ,by naming those who supported him during his evil reign,who supplied him with the equipment and the know how to begin his WMD program,there maybe stuff that will come out that we will all not like what we hear!


Im quite sure that we will only get to hear a highly "sanitized" version of the interrogation results. Even so, I imaqgine there are a number of governments/politicians/companies that are feeling a touch nervous right now :)

chirac is EXTREMELY nervous. :)

[Argyll]

I think there's more than Chirac,and a lot closer to our homes too ;)

[Trident-za]

I think there's more than Chirac,and a lot closer to our homes too ;)

Those parts will be "sanitized" out mate ;)

[Saranof]

thats very true. hopefully it does come down to that. so that we can eliminate the links to terror. and hopefully we can eventually stableize the middle east and never have to go back in the future. in doing that hopefully we leave a better world for the future generations

Terror can only be eliminated by killing the reason for terror, not the terrorists themselves.
But hey, this is a a step anyhow :D

[California Joe]

He does look like a pathetic old bastard and he'll never feel the kind of torment he has coming and inflicted on others. Unless Paul Bremer allows the "woodchipper" as an execution method. After he's been raped, repeatedly. We need intel from him.

I don't feel hatred for him the way I do Osama Bin Laden. That fanatical bastard needs killin'.

[Blues]

Hi guys.. Its truley a great day.. One of the best weekends for me.. And now saddam is cought.. amazing job credits to the US indead.. keep up the good work and "God Bless America" :lol:

[Seoulstriker]

Hi guys.. Its truley a great day.. One of the best weekends for me.. And now saddam is cought.. amazing job credits to the US indead.. keep up the good work and "God Bless America" :lol:

:hug: :hug: :hug: woot woot woot

[JTFazz]

http://pto4.com/saddamhagrid.jpg

http://pto4.com/ownz.jpg

[Seoulstriker]

^^^ better with "4m3r1c4 pwnz j00!"

[Haiw]

It would be even better with Adam on it in full airsoft gear rofl

[Seoulstriker]

It would be even better with Adam on it in full airsoft gear rofl

rofl rofl rofl

[Argyll]

You guys not know AB is in TF 121,and was there!! ;)

[StarvingStudent47]

If you wanna stabilize the middle east then you have to handle the palestinian/israeli conflict for good!

*cough*forum hand grenade*cough*

And back on topic...

http://www.vindibudd.com/graphics/pwn3d.gif

[NcDeuce]

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2003/images/12/14/top.main.saddam.sign.ap.jpg

Hey, that's the US Cav off Fort Campbell Blvd across Gate 4. Haha, I live less than 4 miles from there. woot

[martinexsquaddie]

good news
good job

[The Walrus]

I must say, I take my proverbial hat off to the US forces for putting an end to Saddams grip (psychological) on Iraq once and for all.
Christmas has indeed come early for Bush/Blair, and the Iraqi people of course.

[GLax]

:hug: woot woot :hug:

[California Joe]

http://pto4.com/ownz.jpg

Why is that Backstreet Boy looking ****(to quote mocking) pointing a gun at me? Could it be to show me lack of firearms skill or dearth of upperbody definition while accentuating use of hair care products? Either way, in the future if your links do not include exposed breasts piss off.

Thanks.

[mocking_loudly_died]

rofl

[MAGNUM]

WELL DONE!!!

Wait Osama!! :bash: :bash: :bash:

[Falco]

1 down 1 to go ...

[Seoulstriker]

is that a walther p99?

[Mortimer]

pffft this means nothing

where are the ****ing WMD sites? i hardly think SH will know.
while yes its a good thing he has been captured, its going to do nothing to further the peace effort in Iraq.

Where is he being tried for crimes against humanity?

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Ya theres still alot of work to go, this should relieve alot of Iraqi's and they should (keyword) be more helpfull to American soldiers.
Theres still things that remain up in the air. A: The resistance, is it going to fade? Was he running it (i heard a report he also had a piece of paper containing "minutes" of an resistance meeting he was supposidly at) Will it stop?

B: I heard this is going to be a trail held inside of Iraq, I see it fitting. Will he be tried by military court or civillian? I heard civillian but yet its still to early to tell. He definately will be tried for crimes against humanity.

[Vance]

pffft this means nothing

where are the f*** WMD sites? i hardly think SH will know.
while yes its a good thing he has been captured, its going to do nothing to further the peace effort in Iraq.

Where is he being tried for crimes against humanity?
Holy hell, you're an impatient guy, aren't you?

[radon]

wtf didnt he shoot himself? now he will be made a idiot in a long public televisioned court. He already had a doctor looking down his throat...

[ST4]

wtf didnt he shoot himself? now he will be made a idiot in a long public televisioned court. He already had a doctor looking down his throat...

If Saddam was going to shot himself, he wouldn't have a chance. The operators of TF 121 would shoot him before he could pull out his pistol.

It is better that we have Saddam alive then dead. I wouldn't want to be him now when the CIA interrigators try to get information out of him. :lol:

[Pandy]

So... when is saddam going to visit the American/British Firing Squad?

[TRACER_BULLET]

is that a walther p99?

striker its an Hk usp ... .45 maybe

[NcDeuce]

pffft this means nothing

where are the f*** WMD sites? i hardly think SH will know.
while yes its a good thing he has been captured, its going to do nothing to further the peace effort in Iraq.

Where is he being tried for crimes against humanity?

Mortimer is angry...he has a small *****.

rofl

Pfffttt you dumbass.

[Ratamacue]

Congratulations Mort, you're the only person to be completely negative in this thread. You win absolutely nothing.

[SFontaine]

pffft this means nothing

where are the f*** WMD sites? i hardly think SH will know.
while yes its a good thing he has been captured, its going to do nothing to further the peace effort in Iraq.

Where is he being tried for crimes against humanity?

You do realize a ton of Iraqis didn't help US Forces previously cause they were afraid Saddam would come back to power and punish them?

[Seoulstriker]

is that a walther p99?

striker its an Hk usp ... .45 maybe

http://www.gothammarketing.com/rck/images/P99a.jpg

i say it's a p99.

http://pto4.com/ownz.jpg

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/tao/so-sui/p99-1.jpg

[Mortimer]

i'm not being negaive its a perfectly valid question. this capture is only a psychological win nothing more.

I think though its great for moral and great for the guys that got him(TF20?), they've been prancing all over the desert looking for this asshat and my congrates go out to them.

However my congrates don't go to the administration who think they can get away with lying about WMDS which was the justifaction to invade iraq and not one shred of evidence has been found to support GWB's allegations.
don't get me wrong this is a great thing but it shouldn't overshadow what are the REAL problems. for instance aid, govererment etc

[Omega]

It's a USP and by the looks of it a .45 I know because I own one.

[Prima]

http://prima.fragism.com/saddam.jpg

[Seoulstriker]

It's a USP and by the looks of it a .45 I know because I own one.

yeah, you're right. what got me was the casing ejection port. :|

[Deuterium]

i'm not being negaive its a perfectly valid question. this capture is only a psychological win nothing more.

I think though its great for moral and great for the guys that got him(TF20?), they've been prancing all over the desert looking for this asshat and my congrates go out to them.

However my congrates don't go to the administration who think they can get away with lying about WMDS which was the justifaction to invade iraq and not one shred of evidence has been found to support GWB's allegations.
don't get me wrong this is a great thing but it shouldn't overshadow what are the REAL problems. for instance aid, govererment etc

Mortimer is 100% contrarian. It could be raining pussy and Mortimer would complain about being hit by ****s. Let's face it, he'll never be satisfied with anything that we accomplish in the world. If WMDs are found he’ll claim they were placed there by the CIA. Mortimer is part of the problem, not the solution.

[Mortimer]

don't tell me what i would and wouldn't do
i have never changed from my opinion, and while you guys celebrate pointless things i always ask "where are the WMDs?" i have never changed that opinion.......

i can't understand why you guys don't think its not a big thing.

[Deuterium]

i can't understand why you guys don't think its not a big thing.

Well I'm glad you finally figured that one out. If you have to ask then you don't understand.

[Deuterium]

don't tell me what i would and wouldn't do
i have never changed from my opinion, and while you guys celebrate pointless things i always ask "where are the WMDs?" i have never changed that opinion.......

I'm glad you view the capture of Sadaam as pointless. I can't wait for your explanation of the celebration in Iraq, Hollywood special effects?

[farmgirl]

don't tell me what i would and wouldn't do
i have never changed from my opinion, and while you guys celebrate pointless things i always ask "where are the WMDs?" i have never changed that opinion.......

I'm glad you view the capture of Sadaam as pointless. I can't wait for your explanation of the celebration in Iraq, Hollywood special effects?

All planned and carried out by the same folks who faked Apollo 11 no doubt. :cantbeli:

[Mortimer]

i'm not being negaive its a perfectly valid question. this capture is only a psychological win nothing more.

[Mortimer]

you guys honetly think if you capture and kill SA and OBL terrorsim will just vanish??

[Vance]

I don't think anyone ever said it would.

[Operation Ivy]

Hes just angry :D

[budanski]

Typical Greenie. Even when its explained to them... Its been laid out many times that WMD was NOT the only reason for the conflict yet he repeats the typical anti-bush rhetoric over and over. Wheres the WMD? Wheres the WMD? Wheres the WMD? :cantbeli:

[ShotOver]

Videos:

"Taken alive"
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/media/news_video_small.asp?ASF=/news/nat/archive/morningnat/1512_sampson_lo.wmv&x=1&brand=news

"We got him"
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/media/news_video_small.asp?ASF=/news/nat/archive/morningnat/1512_capture1_lo.wmv&x=1&brand=news

"US response"
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/media/news_video_small.asp?ASF=/news/nat/archive/morningnat/1512_karl_lo.wmv&x=1&brand=news

[stryker182]

We have found WMD ,Sadaam and his regime they could be called WMD,how may people did they kill, thousands apon thousands we don't have to look for Nuclear or Chemical weapons we have already found the most deadly weapon ,Sadaam.

[Vance]

Heh heh. Nice analogy, lol. :lol:

[budanski]

Saddam's WMD confession to the UN in 1998 is evidence enough. Why havent they been found as well?

Mortimer is nothing but a broken record.

[Jack Mehoff]

Mortimer's ****** is hurting after all the good news like down jones 10K+, tax cut spurred growth and cetera, and now Saddam is gone for good

[mocking_loudly_died]

Morty is an angry chap, but his point is a valid one.

Without finding the implied WMD's this war does smell of something other than roses.

Now before I’m labeled a raging turn coat, I would be the first one inline to piss on Saddam.

:D

[budanski]

...WMD was NOT the only reason for the conflict...

[TheBenz]

:D :D :D Thank God this a**hole is caught!!!

[mocking_loudly_died]

...WMD was NOT the only reason for the conflict...

It was the main reason Australia was going over mate.

Don't know about you yankees but our PM said this had little to do with regime change.

:D

[aktarian]

B: I heard this is going to be a trail held inside of Iraq, I see it fitting. Will he be tried by military court or civillian? I heard civillian but yet its still to early to tell. He definately will be tried for crimes against humanity.

Just hope he doesn't start running his mouth and say something that US might find embarassing.

[Seiyuuki]

B: I heard this is going to be a trail held inside of Iraq, I see it fitting. Will he be tried by military court or civillian? I heard civillian but yet its still to early to tell. He definately will be tried for crimes against humanity.

Just hope he doesn't start running his mouth and say something that US might find embarassing.

How can anyone misspell Fiji??????

Yeah, me too...Just hope he doesn't start running his mouth and say something that the U.S., UK, France, Germany, Russia, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. might find embarassing.

Wait, I get it now, gotcha *wink wink*...it's the "Great Satan" and the rest of the world can do no wrong.

[Kingpin]

Typical Greenie. Even when its explained to them... Its been laid out many times that WMD was NOT the only reason for the conflict yet he repeats the typical anti-bush rhetoric over and over. Wheres the WMD? Wheres the WMD? Wheres the WMD? :cantbeli:

Wheres the WMD? ;)

And why US didn't finish Korea yet? It is opressing people many years and have WMD.

[ShotOver]

Aaaw, come on Kingpin...

You keep digging yourself into a little hole, when saddam tells where the WMD are, and coalition forces find them, what will you say?

I think you will leave the forum, and never come back because of embarrasment.

[Kingpin]

Aaaw, come on Kingpin...

You keep digging yourself into a little hole, when saddam tells where the WMD are, and coalition forces find them, what will you say?

I think you will leave the forum, and never come back because of embarrasment.

Wheres WMD? ;)

[ShotOver]

http://www.startribune.com/stonline/images/news98/2sack1014.l.jpg

I thought this was pretty funny.

[wreck]

Something for the twin moralistic:
http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=89098

Swedish article about how the pictures of the captured Saddam is a breach of the Geneva convention. Before reading this I was actually thinking back to the time when Iraq showed pictures of captured American soldiers, and every American and their dog was outraged about it. Well, now the tables are turned and the US is doing the same thing they found so terrible.

Quoted from the article:
- The pictures of Saddam during private doctors exams are humiliating. That is a breach of the third Geneva convention, said Ove Bring, professor in human rights.

- They could just as well have showed stills of Saddam, or pictures of him walking down a hallway. That would have been equally good as evidence, says Bring.

- Americans are a bit unsensitive and uninformed about these things, says Ove Bring.

No matter what Ove Bring says or thinks, he raises an interesting point. America can do whatever they want, but god help you if you try the same thing yourself.

[Haiw]

Actually I must confess I thought the same thing; if a US general were to be captured and shown on tv like a grand prize all hell would break loose, however when it's Saddam everyone is cheering. I know he's a mean dictator, but as long as he's a human being those rights should normally still apply.

[ShotOver]

If you captured Hitler, would you video tape him and show him to the world?

[Deuterium]

Something for the twin moralistic:
http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=89098

Swedish article about how the pictures of the captured Saddam is a breach of the Geneva convention. Before reading this I was actually thinking back to the time when Iraq showed pictures of captured American soldiers, and every American and their dog was outraged about it. Well, now the tables are turned and the US is doing the same thing they found so terrible.

Quoted from the article:
- The pictures of Saddam during private doctors exams are humiliating. That is a breach of the third Geneva convention, said Ove Bring, professor in human rights.

- They could just as well have showed stills of Saddam, or pictures of him walking down a hallway. That would have been equally good as evidence, says Bring.

- Americans are a bit unsensitive and uninformed about these things, says Ove Bring.

No matter what Ove Bring says or thinks, he raises an interesting point. America can do whatever they want, but god help you if you try the same thing yourself.

Interesting point. I agree. I would only say in the USs defense that if we didn't show any pictures then we would be accused of fabricating the story. Yet another example of a no-win situation. No matter what the US does, its criticized.

[ShotOver]

Then, you turn into a latino street girl and shout

"Talk to the hand girlfriend!"

And strut away :)

[wreck]

Something for the twin moralistic:
http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=89098

Swedish article about how the pictures of the captured Saddam is a breach of the Geneva convention. Before reading this I was actually thinking back to the time when Iraq showed pictures of captured American soldiers, and every American and their dog was outraged about it. Well, now the tables are turned and the US is doing the same thing they found so terrible.

Quoted from the article:
- The pictures of Saddam during private doctors exams are humiliating. That is a breach of the third Geneva convention, said Ove Bring, professor in human rights.

- They could just as well have showed stills of Saddam, or pictures of him walking down a hallway. That would have been equally good as evidence, says Bring.

- Americans are a bit unsensitive and uninformed about these things, says Ove Bring.

No matter what Ove Bring says or thinks, he raises an interesting point. America can do whatever they want, but god help you if you try the same thing yourself.

Interesting point. I agree. I would only say in the USs defense that if we didn't show any pictures then we would be accused of fabricating the story. Yet another example of a no-win situation. No matter what the US does, its criticized.
True, even Bush had to be really careful on how to comment this issue.

Can't think of a way that would have made everyone happy. On the good side, Saddam was captured alive. If he would have been killed, Iraq could have gone into total anarchy. Saddam the Martyr, more like Saddam the loser rofl

[Royal]

Something for the twin moralistic:
http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=89098

Swedish article about how the pictures of the captured Saddam is a breach of the Geneva convention. Before reading this I was actually thinking back to the time when Iraq showed pictures of captured American soldiers, and every American and their dog was outraged about it. Well, now the tables are turned and the US is doing the same thing they found so terrible.

Quoted from the article:
- The pictures of Saddam during private doctors exams are humiliating. That is a breach of the third Geneva convention, said Ove Bring, professor in human rights.



- They could just as well have showed stills of Saddam, or pictures of him walking down a hallway. That would have been equally good as evidence, says Bring.

- Americans are a bit unsensitive and uninformed about these things, says Ove Bring.

No matter what Ove Bring says or thinks, he raises an interesting point. America can do whatever they want, but god help you if you try the same thing yourself.

Interesting point. I agree. I would only say in the USs defense that if we didn't show any pictures then we would be accused of fabricating the story. Yet another example of a no-win situation. No matter what the US does, its criticized.

I can think of a few times recently where I've criticised the US (and the UK) for breaches of the Geneva conventions (and other aspects of International Law), but I have to say in this case it was without a doubt the right thing to do.

Even though we are (aparantly) treating Sadaam Hussein Al Tikriti as a PW (and our actions in showing film of him are thus illegal) we have to get the messsage across to the Iraqi and wider Arab public.

For once I agree that the end justifies the means.



My congratulations to the FIT and to those involved in the cordon and of course the seizure itself. woot woot woot

[hood]

Video of 'the hole' being probed. Not sure of a better way to say that. :)

http://66.230.216.3/121503/fnl_saddamhole_121503_300.wmv

[hood]

A few more article quotes:


Six hundred troops took part in the mission, but only special forces members entered the compound where the ousted leader was hiding. As soon as Saddam was seized, two special forces members took him to an assault helicopter that landed in a field about 80 meters (yards) from the hovel and a radio message went out to officers involved in Operation Red Dawn, named after a 1984 film about teenagers thwarting a Soviet invasion of the United States.

The message was short, and to the point: "We have him."

The chopper took off at 8:30 pm (1730 GMT), 25 minutes after troops had secured the area immediately around the remote farm house, Hickey said.

[Loco]

Just saying: CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! because of Saddam´s capture, it was a really nice news for a sunday´s morning.
:D

[radon]

wtf didnt he shoot himself? now he will be made a idiot in a long public televisioned court. He already had a doctor looking down his throat...

If Saddam was going to shot himself, he wouldn't have a chance. The operators of TF 121 would shoot him before he could pull out his pistol.

It is better that we have Saddam alive then dead. I wouldn't want to be him now when the CIA interrigators try to get information out of him. :lol:

Dont think so in this case. Saddam was in a hole and there was stuff on the entrance. Someone had to move the stuff above the entrance. Saddam must have heard what was coming. He even tried to bribe the soldiers capturing him.

[ShotOver]

Yeah, i heard about the bribing.

He said somthing like "I am Saddam hussain, President of Iraq, and i am willing to bargan"

:|

[ShotOver]

aaah, here we are:


He said, in English, "'I am Saddam Hussein, I am the president of Iraq and I want to negotiate'," according to Major Brian Reed, operations commander of the 4th Infantry Division's 1st Brigade.

"The response was 'President Bush sends his regards'," the infanteer said.