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farmgirl
12-15-2003, 12:41 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=7&u=/nm/20031215/ts_nm/iraq_saddam_arrest_dc_5

By Robin Pomeroy

AD-DAWR, Iraq (*******) - "I'm Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)," the man with the scruffy beard said in English when U.S. troops found him in a dirt hole. "I'm the president of Iraq (news - web sites) and I'm willing to negotiate."

"President Bush (news - web sites) sends his regards," they replied.

U.S. officers who captured the 66-year-old former dictator in the hole next to a hut in Iraq Saturday could not believe how easy it was when after eight months of hunting they took Saddam without either side firing a shot.

Maj. Brian Reed, operations officer for the first brigade of the Fourth Infantry Division, recounted the story for reporters Monday at the site where Saddam was found.

The hole contained nothing but an electric strip light and a ventilation fan. The roof was supported by rough wooden beams.

"What we found surprised us," said Col. James Hickey, the commanding officer of the brigade involved in capturing Saddam. "We didn't think it would be so simple."

The former president, who once could take his pick from an array of lavish palaces across Iraq, was pulled from a specially dug hole in the ground just big enough for a man of his average build to crouch in.

The army was led to Saddam's hideaway -- near a shepherd's hut in an orange grove on the banks of the Tigris River -- by information from a wealthy man from nearby Tikrit arrested in a raid Saturday.

Hickey declined to identify the source, saying only that he was from an important family in the town and that he had "a large waist line."

Although from Saddam's home town, the man was not from Saddam's tribe, Hickey added.

It was at least the 10th time U.S. troops in Tikrit had headed out on a mission hoping to capture the man they refer to variously as BL1 (black list one) or HVT1 (high-value target one), Hickey said.

HUT

On finding nothing in the two farmhouses they were targeting, troops decided to check out the nearby hut.

"The orchard and palm grove looked like the best place. If there were an underground area, it would be there," Hickey told reporters who were invited to view the site.

Special forces raided the hut, a simple two-room construction behind a fence made of dried palm leaves, while regular soldiers sealed off the area. They caught one man trying to escape and another in the hut.

When they discovered the hole, Saddam immediately gave himself up by telling soldiers, in English, who he was.

"We were about to clear that UGF (under-ground facility) in a military sort of way," Hickey said. "He was wise not to wait too long."

U.S. forces usually clear such holes with a hand grenade.

Saddam would have used his "spider hole" or "rat hole" -- as soldiers referred to it -- to hide in for short periods when U.S. troops were in the area, Hickey said.

The hut consisted of one room with two beds and a fridge containing a can of lemonade, a packet of hot dogs, an opened box of Belgian chocolates and a tube of ointment. Several new pairs of shoes lay in their boxes scattered around the floor.

Soldiers said it was unclear whether the food and other items belonged to Saddam.

The other room, open to the elements at one end, was a kitchen with a sink fed by water from a cistern on top of a chicken coop at the other end of a small yard.

Pinned to the outside wall of the hut was a cardboard box depicting biblical scenes such as the Last Supper and the Madonna (news - web sites) and child with the English inscription "God bless our home."

Inside the bedroom was a 2003 calendar in Arabic with a colorful depiction of Noah's Ark.

Soldiers were surprised at the Christian decorations, at the very basic nature of Saddam's final residence as a free man and, most of all, at the fact he gave up without a fight.

"My gunner said: 'Is that it? No shooting?"' said Capt. Desmond Bailey, a commander of troops that encircled Saddam.

"He's the best gunner in the troop, so he was a bit disappointed."

Seoulstriker
12-15-2003, 12:53 PM
thanks for the quote. :hug:

woot

Shake n Bake
12-15-2003, 12:53 PM
"President Bush sends his regards," they replied

rofl

He219
12-15-2003, 12:53 PM
I heard an interview this morning that said they 'almost' tossed a hand-grenade down that Rat-Hole before Saddam aknowledged...

Close call! Much better this way...

:D

farmgirl
12-15-2003, 12:55 PM
thanks for the quote. :hug:

woot

no problem striker.... I just did it for the hug.... ;)

wholagun
12-15-2003, 12:57 PM
If I was them, Id take the money - then capture him.

Im sure those blocks could use the 750 000 given what military pay is today.

Apogee
12-15-2003, 01:28 PM
Awsome post as usual farmgirl. You put up some really good articles.

farmgirl
12-15-2003, 01:53 PM
Awsome post as usual farmgirl. You put up some really good articles.

Thanks :D
I probably read too much for my own good, but that's what happens when I can't sleep.

budanski
12-15-2003, 02:22 PM
Awsome post as usual farmgirl. You put up some really good articles.

Brown-noser!! That's Joe's girl ;)

farmgirl
12-15-2003, 02:28 PM
Awsome post as usual farmgirl. You put up some really good articles.

Brown-noser!! That's Joe's girl ;)

:cantbeli:

California Joe
12-15-2003, 04:21 PM
Honey, I'm home!

Vance
12-15-2003, 04:31 PM
Oh ****! *Puts pants on*

farmgirl
12-15-2003, 04:34 PM
Oh ****! *Puts pants on*


Vance!!! I'm shocked!
:oops:

I thought you were such a young gentleman!!!

Vance
12-15-2003, 04:48 PM
Oh ****! *Puts pants on*


Vance!!! I'm shocked!
:oops:

I thought you were such a young gentleman!!!
You weren't saying that 5 minutes ago. Supposedly I was even, quote, ''your daddy''.

Seoulstriker
12-15-2003, 04:52 PM
Oh ****! *Puts pants on*


Vance!!! I'm shocked!
:oops:

I thought you were such a young gentleman!!!
You weren't saying that 5 minutes ago. Supposedly I was even, quote, ''your daddy''.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

California Joe
12-15-2003, 04:56 PM
Dyin' ain't much of a livin' boy.

*spits chaw on Vance's hairless ass*

Vance
12-15-2003, 04:57 PM
Dyin' ain't much of a livin' boy.

*spits chaw on Vance's hairless ass*
Riiiight. :|

California Joe
12-15-2003, 04:59 PM
What? Now you're gonna return to reality?

Vance
12-15-2003, 04:59 PM
I was talking about my ''hairless ass.'' :lol:

California Joe
12-15-2003, 05:01 PM
You gonna pull them pistols or whistle Dixie.....fuzzy. ;)

Vance
12-15-2003, 05:03 PM
*Pulls out AK-47*


ALLAH ACKBAR!!

*Realizes he can't shoot for **** with an AK from the hip*


Uh...truce?

California Joe
12-15-2003, 05:06 PM
Peace. Although there are like 35 really cool Josey Wales quotes to draw from.... ;)

farmgirl
12-15-2003, 05:09 PM
Peace. Although there are like 35 really cool Josey Wales quotes to draw from.... ;)



my hero.... ;)

hey... while you're at it.... shake 'n bake called me a post whore... and jack said I was a guy.... just sayin' ;)

Herrmannek
12-15-2003, 05:11 PM
And I've called the place "brothel" :)

Haiw
12-15-2003, 05:24 PM
If I was them, Id take the money - then capture him.

Im sure those blocks could use the 750 000 given what military pay is today.
Who says they didn't? ;)

"In the hole investigators later found 24 emtpy suitcase, and one suitcase containing $750,000." ;)

Oh and Vance; quit beatin' the meat in farmgirls garden, it scares the children...

farmgirl
12-16-2003, 08:04 AM
yeah... sounds like he was heavily drugged...... :roll:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/afp/20031216/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_saddam_capture_031216113631&e=3

Saddam must have been drugged before capture: daughter

DUBAI (AFP) - Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) must have been drugged before he was captured by US forces, the ousted dictator's eldest daughter, Raghad, told Al-Arabiya television.

"How do you believe they can capture him if they didn't drug him? I don't doubt it, I'm sure that they couldn't (have captured him otherwise)," she said Tuesday, speaking by telephone from Jordan, where she was granted asylum after the US-led war to oust Saddam.

Vance
12-16-2003, 08:12 AM
Saddam smokin' the big cheif, that's what. p-) (Ms. Farmgirl, did I spell cheif right?)

farmgirl
12-16-2003, 08:46 AM
Saddam smokin' the big cheif, that's what. p-) (Ms. Farmgirl, did I spell cheif right?)

"I" before "E" except after "C" or when sounding like "A" as in neighbor or weigh

Chief ;)

Vance
12-16-2003, 05:18 PM
Just fail me now :(

farmgirl
12-16-2003, 06:57 PM
Just fail me now :(


If I failed boys for misspellings, no one would ever pass my classes Vance... I'm sure you'd do just fine. :D