Stryker Platoon Pics

[hood]

With permission from AR15.com, I've posted a couple of great photos of a Stryker Platoon from the 2nd Infantry which is headed for Iraq. Here's the link to the local album:

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/2nd_Infantry_Division-Stryker_Platoon

and here's the original AR15.com thread which has more in-depth info on the photos:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=218491&w=activePop

Thanks to Chris196 for the tip off, and Troy for sending me high quality versions.

[Operation Ivy]

woot woot

[He219]

http://www.hood.army.mil/4id/Iraqi/news_images/arrowhead/Stryker.jpg

I like this picture ^... Nice shield.

[mustamato]

Those cages must make for some impressive manouverability in downtown Baghdad combined with the fact that their turn radius must be like half Iraq. Since the rounds on the RPG-7´s have electric ignition and that can be neutralized by... electricity, are these cages somewhat electric? However I doubt that by practical reasons.

*BZZzzzzzZZzzZth* Ooops sorry bro, didn´t see you. :P

[JunglistSoldier]

Tha cages would be for - and this is just an educated guess - making the grenade detonate without penetrationg into the stryker.

[mustamato]

Tha cages would be for - and this is just an educated guess - making the grenade detonate without penetrationg into the stryker.

Yeah I got that part.

[El'Potato]

We Swedes used that system as well for our tank 103S, but we had it only on the front! Now I don't have any pictures to upload but if you like you could look at Google. Although that kind of netting is more so used against full calibre tankgun projectiles, or so I've been taught.

[non-zero possibility]

I know that ships use systems like that that are electically powered to prevent modern pirates from boarding ships. Maybe thats the same thing, I can picture a enemy climbing up and thowing a grenade inside. But just my idea.

[pAt]

one thing that sucks about the RPG cage is that the tires are left completely open!

[mustamato]

one thing that sucks about the RPG cage is that the tires are left completely open!

Yeah but that is one of the advantages of wheeled armour vs. tracked ones, if one of the wheels goes flat, driving over a mine, being hit by a grenade or so forth, the vehicle can keep driving, most of these tyres has a hard rubber core or something similar. If a tracked vehicle drives over a mine it stops. Quite a bad thing if it´s a ambush? Wheeled vehicles just speeding out of the ambush has happened more than once. Atleast with the XA-series (picture below) in Bosnia and other places.

http://www.plutonen.com/ks05/images/Kosovo_apr/images/IMG_0003.jpg

And God knows how many times with BTR´s in Chechnya and Afghanistan.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/btr80/images/btr1.jpg

[Subliminal One]

So sad a woman in this platoon was violently raped by one of her colleagues.

[angry cow]

Find a source. That is a Stryker platoon, composed of infantry personnel. No women. Maybe something happened up at the brigade level, but before you shoot your mouth off you best have a damn good reason for doing so. :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

[Subliminal One]

Find a source. That is a Stryker platoon, composed of infantry personnel. No women. Maybe something happened up at the brigade level, but before you shoot your mouth off you best have a damn good reason for doing so. :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

It's old news. Yes, it was the brigade level. Sorry for the confusion of words.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1030940/posts

[Operation Ivy]

so does anyone know if the RPG cage thing is working?

[mustamato]

so does anyone know if the RPG cage thing is working?

Well, it has been used in one way or the other since the second world war, so it´s quite tested, and yes it works. The principle is as simple as it´s effective, the warhead of a HEAT detonates too early and since the shaped warhead is "pointed" and designed to work optimally when detonating on the contact of armour, much of the power in the blast will be just in the air, and it can be stopped by the vehicles ordinary armour. In addition those cages are ideal places to store extra equipment like a half-platoon tent and all kinds of extra material.

http://www.mheaust.com.au/IDF/Gallery/M113/Zelda6.jpg
Israeli Zelda (M113)

[Ian H]

nice model mustamato. Did you make it?

Does the Stryker have any extra weapons added, I know they have a 50 cal RWS as standard, but have any been given extra M240's or similar, to make a modern version of the M113 ACAV. I have no knowledge of the situation on the ground in the Stryker unit's area of responsibility (TAOR?) but it seems like a logical and relatively cheap way to boost firepower. This arrangement would be especially useful against roadside ambushes, since the MG's would be facing sideways anyway. See pics of Vietnam era M113's if you aren't sure what I mean (sorry, don't have any uploadable pics of them myself).

[Operation Ivy]

so does anyone know if the RPG cage thing is working?

Well, it has been used in one way or the other since the second world war, so it´s quite tested, and yes it works. The principle is as simple as it´s effective, the warhead of a HEAT detonates too early and since the shaped warhead is "pointed" and designed to work optimally when detonating on the contact of armour, much of the power in the blast will be just in the air, and it can be stopped by the vehicles ordinary armour. In addition those cages are ideal places to store extra equipment like a half-platoon tent and all kinds of extra material.

http://www.mheaust.com.au/IDF/Gallery/M113/Zelda6.jpg
Israeli Zelda (M113)

woot Thank You

[He219]

That clears this picture up for me......

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploads/2003/11/20/uploaded-39188_large.jpg

Thanks, mustamato!
;)

[Eddie]

Hmm, I think the purpose of the slat armour is not to predetonate the RPG's warheads. For that the cage is too thin. The RPG's point (which initiates the fuse) must hit something hard and square to detonate reliably. The intention of the slat armour is that the point of the warhead doesn't hit the cage but the cone and that either shorts out the fuse or crushes the cone making the warhead less effective.

I don't have experience with the RPG-7 but I have seen the same thing happen to LAW rockets over a dozen times when they don't meet the target square enough. Yep, and I had to go out, find the unexploded warhead and blow it to pieces. I'll try to send Hood a picture of an RPG-7 warhead which did not detonate on impact.

[BMF_EOD]

RPG cage.

O.K EOD chimes in again.

The PG-7 is initiated by a piezeoelectric crystal in the nose of the round. The electric charge is sent throgh an inner metal foward cone (no wires!) down to the copper shaped charge cone. The electric charge enters the base fuze initiating the round.

Why does this matter? Because the cage is not meant to detonate the round! The cage is meant to make the outer skin of the weapon touch the inner cone (thus electrically shorting it) and causing a dud. If it works correctly you will have a rocket impact but no detonation. It is important to note that the round does have a pyrotechnic self destruct and will possibly detonate very shortly after impact.

A good cutaway.
On a side note- RPG does not really stand for Rocket Propelled grenade as commoly thought. http://www.taos-inc.com/foreignmat/rpg7_files/rpg7.jpg

[Apogee]

Good to hear EOD chime in on this one. We were actually talking about the slat armor today in one of my classes. Appreciate the incite.

[George W. Bush]

RPG = Ruchnoya Protivotankovoy Granatomyot

Hand-held Anti-tank Grenade Launcher

"Duck! H-H-A-T-G-L!!!!!"