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mack pl
05-19-2005, 04:25 PM
PMM

http://magnum-x.pl/pol/images/stories/02_czasopisma_STRZAL/artykul_1/peem_05_05.jpg

it's only prototype, so don't laugh :lol: anyway, it is 9 x 19 mm, but probably also 5,7 mm x 28 FN and 4,6 mm x 30 HK..its some kind of PDW....I think Remov can explain better than me about details of this modular pm ;)

from http://magnum-x.pl/pol/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=268&Itemid=77
Onyks
05-19-2005, 05:45 PM
I am glad it is only a prototype,.. M16 style grip? :roll:

Heh though it isn't a perfect likeness, it still is what came into my mind the second I looked at it. I just hope they develop it more, but it does look pretty interesting. :)
tony6
05-19-2005, 05:54 PM
It is not even a prototype-more like "working model".
Interesting that 5,7 mm x 28 FN and 4,6 mm x 30 HK will be avaiable.
mack pl
05-19-2005, 05:56 PM
I am glad it is only a prototype,.. M16 style grip? :roll:

Heh though it isn't a perfect likeness, it still is what came into my mind the second I looked at it. I just hope they develop it more, but it does look pretty interesting. :)

well, the most interesting is that, this pm will be odular, and could shoot few types of ammo...anyway, its just a prototype, so it could looks different in future ;)



It is not even a prototype-more like "working model".


yes... ;)
tony6
05-19-2005, 06:05 PM
Looks like Italian "Spectre" or something.
Even it is just a prototype I'm glad to see those P-rails all over the thing;)
perdurabo
05-20-2005, 07:36 AM
guys in english pm is SMG ;)
Beinlausen
05-20-2005, 07:51 AM
looks like the mp5k, glock 18c and the Steyr TMP had a threesome and produced this ugly baby
tony6
05-20-2005, 08:02 AM
looks like the mp5k, glock 18c and the Steyr TMP had a threesome and produced this ugly baby
He, he - it may be ugly but in can works with 3 different ammos ;)
Besides-it is just a prototype.
TacoDelRio
05-20-2005, 06:08 PM
YAY! ZEISS Z-POINT SIGHT! YAY!
Herrmannek
05-20-2005, 07:07 PM
YAY! ZEISS Z-POINT SIGHT! YAY!
is that bad or good?
Catch22
05-20-2005, 07:38 PM
Depends, Z-point sucks for me, and that is also general opinion (check Aimpoint vs Eotech treads), but hey - its just rail mounted. You can put Aimpoint or preferably Eotech HWS on it just instead.
(-USTASHI-SNIPER-)
05-26-2005, 07:21 PM
Well thats a sweet ass gun thats all i can say...
TacoDelRio
05-26-2005, 07:27 PM
You know, I don't know! I've never handled a Z-point.

I'm not a big fan of red dots. Easier for me to shoot well with irons, even when speed is critical. (Plus they don't run out of batteries so often!)

I was thinking of getting one at one time, but our distributor stopped carrying them.
Aerosoul
05-26-2005, 08:27 PM
Reminds me of the new MP7.
Stormz_STA
05-27-2005, 07:40 AM
it sure looks ugly and i doubt it will enter service anytime soon :roll:
mack pl
05-27-2005, 08:33 AM
it sure looks ugly and i doubt it will enter service anytime soon :roll:

its only "working model", so in future it will looks different ;)

pozdro
tony6
05-27-2005, 10:43 AM
it sure looks ugly and i doubt it will enter service anytime soon
wanna bet?
Stormz_STA
05-27-2005, 10:59 AM
As you said, it's only "a working model", so, yeah, i wanna bet ;)
sergey31
05-27-2005, 11:35 AM
Looks like something someone made in a garage as a hobby.

Very simple design (at least exterior wise).
Square body, somewhat easy to stamp out of sheet metal, lower part looks like it was stolen from a different gun then again not really, those four bolts/screws above magazine look like it was made by Lego......
Well, if it works well and it's accurate then that is all that should matter.
tony6
05-27-2005, 04:44 PM
As you said, it's only "a working model", so, yeah, i wanna bet
Case of beer? ;)

Sergey31:
This thing is just a working model to test interial mechanism working as well as pneumatic inhibitor of semi-cavalier gun-lock (I don't know propoer English vocabulary for that).
Note that there is no buttstock even.
Square body makes good platform for P-rail system.
And what's most important: it can be adopted to different ammo (5,7mm and 4,6mm).
Wodan
05-27-2005, 08:28 PM
Reminds me of the new MP7.

uhhm..

http://magnum-x.pl/pol/images/stories/02_czasopisma_STRZAL/artykul_1/peem_05_05.jpghttp://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/Hkmp7-te/mp7-te1.jpg
uhhm.. dont get the similarities...


btw. whats the problem of some dudes with Zeiss optics?
Catch22
05-27-2005, 08:52 PM
Wodan darling have you ever compared Z-point with HWS or Aimpoint? Then do. Only good thing about it is that its relatively compact and light. Otherwise its not-so-good-but-surely-overpriced.

And Carl Zeiss, Jena makes some outstandig lenses of course.