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Clearday-TRForce
05-23-2005, 02:27 AM
1- Greece 230 points
2- Malta 192
3- Romania 158
4- Israel 154
5- Latvia 153
6- Moldova 148
7- Serbia & Montenegro 137
8- Switzerland 128
9- Norway 125
10- Denmark 125
11- Croatia 115
12- Hungary 97
13- Turkey 92
14- Bosnia & Herzegovina 79
15- Russia 57
16- Albania 53
17- FYR Macedonia 52
18- Cyprus 46
19- Sweden 30
20- Ukraine 30
21- Spain 28
22- United Kingdom 18
23- France 11
24- Germany 4

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Helena Paparizou wins for Greece. Congratulation...
Greeks use two different lyric music, one of is Turkish Blacksea local "Horon" folklor dance and music and the other is Indian "Avare mu" music. Greece's 12 points given by Albania-Belgium-Cyprus-Bulgaria-Turkey-Germany-Hungary-Serbia-Sweden-United Kingdom

Well Greece has definetely deserved it.

and other notes;

- have u seen something about neigbours vote neighbours? doesnt it smell a little bit political? north Countries give votes to Norths, Old Yugoslavia countries give voted theirselves,Greek votes S.Cyprus,S.Cyprus votes Greek,Ireland votes UK,UK votes Ireland,Germany votes Turkey

-and why do UK,Germany,Spain,France at the bottom line? and why must they join again directly in the next year?

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Eurovision win for Greek singer

Greek entry Helena Paparizou was an early favourite to win
Greek singer Helena Paparizou has won the Eurovision Song Contest, after the favourite maintained an early lead in Ukrainian capital Kiev.
It was a disappointing night for UK entrant Javine, who came third from last after attracting only 18 points after a telephone poll by 39 countries.

Greece beat 23 nations with song My Number One, winning 230 points - 38 points ahead of second place Malta.

The annual song contest is one of Europe's most popular TV events.

Revolution site

This year's event was hosted in Ukraine after it won the 2004 contest with a leather-clad performance of Wild Dances by singer Ruslana, who sang during the event.

It rapidly staged the event at its capital city following last year's Orange Revolution, in which mass protests led to opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko taking office.

Hundreds of people gathered outside Kiev's Sports Palace in the build-up to Saturday's final, with free concerts being staged during the day and the competition shown on large outdoor screens.


Javine recovered from throat problems to represent the UK
However, Ukraine failed to score a second consecutive victory with entrant Greenjolly.

The band performed Razom Nas Bahato, the unofficial anthem of last year's protests, backed by dancers wearing hooded tops and handcuffs.

As the song progressed they broke free of their shackles and performed cartwheels, earning an ecstatic reaction from the audience.

Norway's entry also alluded to the Orange Revolution, as Wig Wam's singer waved an orange scarf throughout their rendition of In My Dreams.

Hungary band Nox opened Saturday's final with a performance that seemed to incorporate traditional Irish dancing, while Romanian band Sistem's act involved sparks flying off giant steel drums.

Moldova's Zdob si Zdub included a pensioner on percussion
Bosnia and Herzegovina's entry, female trio Feminnem, referred to the 50th anniversary of the Eurovision Song Contest in their song Zovi.

UK representative Javine began her pop career in 2003 after narrowly losing out on a place in reality TV band Girls Aloud in 2002.

She cancelled her promotional duties on Friday after suffering throat problems in the run-up to the final, but was able to complete her performance on Saturday.

The UK last won the Eurovision Song Contest in 1997 with Love Shine a Light by Katrina and the Waves.

Ireland's hopes ended in failure before tonight's contest after siblings Donna and Joseph McCaul failed to make it past the semi-final.

The pair's song, entitled Love?, left phone voters across Europe unimpressed, marking Ireland's first absence from the big event since Eurovision began.

BBC


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Euro-unity and divisions in Kiev
By Michael Osborn
BBC News entertainment reporter in Kiev


Witnessing the 50th Eurovision Song Contest in Kiev's Sports Palace was a strange mixture of excitement, camaraderie and political division.


Despite partisan flag-waving, all the acts got a warm reception
The vast arena was filled to the brim with both seasoned fans and Ukrainians enjoying the musical spectacle on home soil for the first time.

While the flag-waving was distinctly partisan, there was a palpable sense of harmony in the arena.

I spent the long event next to a Ukrainian, who said she knew nothing of the contest and simply came to enjoy the show.

Nearby was a party of Irish fans, who came to be entertained and were not disheartened by their country's failure to qualify for the final.

As the slick and colourful show wore on, we exchanged notes on which songs we favoured, clapping to some and standing up to dance for others.

Every one of the 24 hopefuls were greeted with a rapturous reception as they attempted the tricky task of persuading voters across Europe that they had the winning formula.

Maltese balladeer Chiara struck the right note with her soaring voice - sending a collective tingle down the spine of the vast crowd.

Voting blocks

But it seemed there were no performances which were unengaging, each with their own beguiling charm.


Old and young had a great night out
The Eurovision experience took a dramatic shift when the music stopped and it was time for the lengthy and highly controversial votes to come rolling in.

Some people began to file out of the arena, convinced the show was over, and the crowd fell into an almost reverential hush as countries delivered their intriguing verdicts one by one.

This year's voting patterns suggested that Eurovision unites Europe less than ever.

The Scandinavians stuck together, while the mighty Balkan block vote proved more powerful than ever.

The audience expressed their distaste at certain decisions, such as when Greece gave Cyprus their perennial douze points.

Upbeat ending

Turkey, however, caused the auditorium to erupt when they presented their old adversary Greece with full marks.


Albania were way out of running, but they still entertained
But another Eurovision club we hear remarkably little about was on good form this year.

The UK, Malta and Cyprus exchanged goodwill points, while Ireland's eight points to its nearest neighbour saved singer Javine from nul points shame.

As the contest drew to a close with a convincing victory for Greece, seasoned Eurovision pundits were suggesting that it is time for the biggest contributors to the contest to pull out.

Spain, the UK, France and Germany were sat glumly at the foot of the table as Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko handed Helena Paparizou her prize.

The appearance of Ukraine's head of state put the whole contest into perspective.

The voting temporarily paled into insignificance when the event closed on a exuberant note of celebration.

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regards.

achilles
05-23-2005, 02:56 AM
Greeks use two different lyric music, one of is Turkish Blacksea local "Horon" folklor dance and music and the other is Indian "Avare mu" music. Greece's 12 points given by Albania-Belgium-Cyprus-Bulgaria-Turkey-Germany-Hungary-Serbia-Sweden-United Kingdom

First, thanks for the 12 pointer ;) .

Second, the ethnic flavour of the Greek song is actually a Pontian tune, a traditional tune from the Hellenes of Pontos. Mate, i cannot be chasing you all aroung for corrections
p-)

Check also this thread:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=48623&start=0

Clearday-TRForce
05-23-2005, 03:04 AM
Greeks use two different lyric music, one of is Turkish Blacksea local "Horon" folklor dance and music and the other is Indian "Avare mu" music. Greece's 12 points given by Albania-Belgium-Cyprus-Bulgaria-Turkey-Germany-Hungary-Serbia-Sweden-United Kingdom

First, thanks for the 12 pointer ;) .

Second, the ethnic flavour of the Greek song is actually a Pontian tune, a traditional tune from the Hellens of Pontos. Mate, i cannot be chasing you all aroung for corrections
p-)

We call it "Horon" - our main folklor dance, u call it Pontus... ;)

achilles
05-23-2005, 03:07 AM
*sigh*
http://www.xeniteas.net/images/pround%20pontian.jpg

What in the world are they telling you man? :lol:

Its a greek tune, a greek dance as part of our Pontian tradition. I dont think it can get any simpler than that ;)

Clearday-TRForce
05-23-2005, 03:32 AM
Wow what a brainwash... rofl

http://www132.pair.com/portakal/folklore/gallery/pages/2002-backstage-2.htm

theg
05-23-2005, 03:37 AM
hey horon is ours this is turkish folcloric music
http://www.tulumba.com/mmTULUMBA/Images/MU9399096BJ673_250.jpg

theg
05-23-2005, 03:38 AM
http://www.tulumba.com/mmTULUMBA/Images/MU9399095CF644_250.jpg

Ratman
05-23-2005, 03:45 AM
OMFG - they all sucked. Which I suppose has always been true. And the voting is more questionable than Florida 2000. ;)

mack pl
05-23-2005, 03:50 AM
all greco-turkish threads are amazing guys :lol: damn, after few centuries of realtionship, you discuss who have right to this folk dance? :lol: amazing....can't you agree that dance is part of culture of this region, and both of your nations participated in some way in creating this culture? ;) ...bah, I guess no... p-)

achilles
05-23-2005, 03:51 AM
OMFG - they all sucked. Which I suppose has always been true. And the voting is more questionable than Florida 2000. ;)

This contest is the definition of 'cheesy'. :lol: But its fun if you got nothing better to do on a Saturday night



To the Turkish brothers:
http://www.angelfire.com/folk/pontian.net/dance/dance.htm

Perhaps we are talking about a different dance here? The tune in the Greek song, my kardasia, was a PONTIAN TUNE whose roots are traced back in antiquity, when Greeks first settled in the region.

mack pl
05-23-2005, 03:53 AM
OMFG - they all sucked. Which I suppose has always been true. And the voting is more questionable than Florida 2000. ;)

hey, Moldova was hardcore :lol: Ive voted for them :P


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41171000/jpg/_41171909_moldova_afp.jpg

Clearday-TRForce
05-23-2005, 03:58 AM
OMFG - they all sucked. Which I suppose has always been true. And the voting is more questionable than Florida 2000. ;)

This contest is the definition of 'cheesy'. :lol: But its fun if you got nothing better to do on a Saturday night



To the Turkish brothers:
http://www.angelfire.com/folk/pontian.net/dance/dance.htm

Perhaps we are talking about a different dance here? The tune in the Greek song, my kardasia, was a PONTIAN TUNE whose roots are traced back in antiquity, when Greeks first settled in the region.


Why does Turkey gives 12 points to Greece? Do you know? coz we all felt in love with music as same as our lyrics.Actually it s so much similar...

Clearday-TRForce
05-23-2005, 04:05 AM
all greco-turkish threads are amazing guys :lol: damn, after few centuries of realtionship, you discuss who have right to this folk dance? :lol: amazing....can't you agree that dance is part of culture of this region, and both of your nations participated in some way in creating this culture? ;) ...bah, I guess no... p-)


I guess "Yes" if we both approach same things honestly.

achilles
05-23-2005, 04:33 AM
I guess "Yes" if we both approach same things honestly.

Exactly ;)

BigBaribal
05-23-2005, 04:51 AM
What a joke: an "euro" competition in a minor asian country :roll:

Clearday-TRForce
05-23-2005, 05:24 AM
What a joke: an "euro" competition in a minor asian country :roll:


What a joke: an "euro" competition in a minor brain campaign. rofl

joeserneem
05-23-2005, 05:44 AM
OMFG - they all sucked. Which I suppose has always been true. And the voting is more questionable than Florida 2000. ;)

So true, the music always sucks (not to mention costumes etc... norway..) and the voting has even risen some questions about the european constitution.
It seems that most of the eastern european (ok, new europe) countries vote for their neighbors, some of the people here, in the NL are afraid that those countries will keep kissing their neighbors asses if they OK the european constitution.

mack pl
05-23-2005, 05:54 AM
It seems that most of the eastern european (ok, new europe) countries vote for their neighbors

only eastern Europe? ;)


so, what about Grecce and Cyprus, what about UK and Ireland, what about Denmark, Sweden and Norway...didnt they voted for eachother? ;)

achilles
05-23-2005, 05:56 AM
It seems that most of the eastern european (ok, new europe) countries vote for their neighbors

only eastern Europe? ;)


so, what about Grecce and Cyprus, what about UK and Ireland, what about Denmark, Sweden and Norway...didnt they voted for eachother? ;)

The UK and Sweden voted for Greece p-) .But yes the pattern is like you said.

mack pl
05-23-2005, 05:59 AM
It seems that most of the eastern european (ok, new europe) countries vote for their neighbors

only eastern Europe? ;)


so, what about Grecce and Cyprus, what about UK and Ireland, what about Denmark, Sweden and Norway...didnt they voted for eachother? ;)

The UK and Sweden voted for Greece p-) .But yes the pattern is like you said.

but Ireland gave 12 point for UK I think.......damn, this song festival was ****, and I act like some expert :lol:

CMNot
05-23-2005, 06:12 AM
^^ 8 points ;)

Seriously though, I know Israel wouldn't do to good in Arabavision song contest but Europe :roll:

achilles
05-23-2005, 06:12 AM
It seems that most of the eastern european (ok, new europe) countries vote for their neighbors

only eastern Europe? ;)


so, what about Grecce and Cyprus, what about UK and Ireland, what about Denmark, Sweden and Norway...didnt they voted for eachother? ;)

The UK and Sweden voted for Greece p-) .But yes the pattern is like you said.



but Ireland gave 12 point for UK I think.......damn, this song festival was ****, and I act like some expert :lol:
I am not an Eurovision expert and not planning on becoming one p-)

Clearday-TRForce
05-23-2005, 06:25 AM
I think Greece has deserved it. There s no controversial...U must look at these issues 1.st,2nd,3rd and others...I think others take more political votes than 1,2,3 position.

Sergei
05-23-2005, 09:53 AM
What a joke: an "euro" competition in a minor asian country :roll:
You'd better learn some geography stupid boy.
Yeah, right, Asia, now go back to school. :bash:

Sergei
05-23-2005, 09:58 AM
OMFG - they all sucked. Which I suppose has always been true. And the voting is more questionable than Florida 2000. ;)

hey, Moldova was hardcore :lol: Ive voted for them :P


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41171000/jpg/_41171909_moldova_afp.jpg

Moldavian RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS

I liked them the most and also this Achtung from Norway.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41171000/jpg/_41171917_wigwam_afp.jpg
Can you say new KISS?

BigBaribal
05-23-2005, 09:59 AM
What a joke: an "euro" competition in a minor asian country :roll:
You'd better learn some geography stupid boy.
Yeah, right, Asia, now go back to school. :bash:


I was responding to a post speaking of soccer in Turkey, a post that has strangely disappared!

Clearday-TRForce
05-23-2005, 10:02 AM
What a joke: an "euro" competition in a minor asian country :roll:
You'd better learn some geography stupid boy.
Yeah, right, Asia, now go back to school. :bash:


I was responding to a post speaking of soccer in Turkey, a post that has strangely disappared!


u are absolutely fool... rofl

mack pl
05-23-2005, 10:03 AM
OMFG - they all sucked. Which I suppose has always been true. And the voting is more questionable than Florida 2000. ;)

hey, Moldova was hardcore :lol: Ive voted for them :P


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41171000/jpg/_41171909_moldova_afp.jpg

Moldavian RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS

I liked them the most and also this Achtung from Norway.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41171000/jpg/_41171917_wigwam_afp.jpg
Can you say new KISS?


my brother laugh at me when I said I vote for them....but fuzk him...Moldova was one of the best
:D

Commie
05-23-2005, 10:16 AM
There is a reason why sweden voted 12 for greece, the singer is born in Sweden/Maybe raised, anyhuw she has a swedish citizenship. So we basically voted for our second swede after that we voted denmark and norway.

Clearday-TRForce
05-23-2005, 10:39 AM
There is a reason why sweden voted 12 for greece, the singer is born in Sweden/Maybe raised, anyhuw she has a swedish citizenship. So we basically voted for our second swede after that we voted denmark and norway.

what a contest?
citizen,neighbour,brotherhood,relations but noone say "song"... rofl

Inconnu
05-23-2005, 11:38 AM
L'eurovision it is really ridiculous

joeserneem
05-23-2005, 12:15 PM
It seems that most of the eastern european (ok, new europe) countries vote for their neighbors

only eastern Europe? ;)


so, what about Grecce and Cyprus, what about UK and Ireland, what about Denmark, Sweden and Norway...didnt they voted for eachother? ;)
I know, but they are old europe, and so is the NL so we don't care about that :D

anyway the article i read stated that the eastern european countries voting for their neighbors were a treat, they casually didn't mention old europe i guess.

sierraone
05-23-2005, 01:05 PM
Neighbours might have voted for neighbours but all countries have as many neighbours as everyone else. Greece didn't win based on just neighbours votes. We haven't changed neighbours since when Ukraine won last year, Turkey the year before or whoever. Ok maybe UK, France and Germany got little votes because no-one likes them. well France love themselves too much, UK hate all europeans and Germans think they own Europe.

Para
05-23-2005, 01:48 PM
I pity anyone with so little to do that they can sit down for hours and watch this endless twaddle.

sierraone
05-23-2005, 04:39 PM
I pity anyone with so little to do that they can sit down for hours and watch this endless twaddle.

see what I mean?

Moledet
05-23-2005, 06:25 PM
I think Israel was pretty good, but the whole point was not to win because if you win you need to host the damn thing and that costs money.

achilles
05-24-2005, 05:00 AM
I think Israel was pretty good, but the whole point was not to win because if you win you need to host the damn thing and that costs money.

It means making money from tourism, advertising, broadcasting rights, etc etc ;)

sierraone
05-24-2005, 05:10 AM
I think Israel was pretty good, but the whole point was not to win because if you win you need to host the damn thing and that costs money.

It means making money from tourism, advertising, broadcasting rights, etc etc ;)

..and the dumb texting/phoning vote. Plus you see some nice ass!

achilles
05-24-2005, 05:14 AM
I think Israel was pretty good, but the whole point was not to win because if you win you need to host the damn thing and that costs money.

It means making money from tourism, advertising, broadcasting rights, etc etc ;)

..and the dumb texting/phoning vote. Plus you see some nice ass!

Yep, i voted once (last year for S.A.K.I.S.) and i wont do it again. I think i am already having a Eurovision OD :bash:


Have you checked Dantis? He now looks like a freakin' PIMP :lol:

sierraone
05-24-2005, 05:22 AM
I think Israel was pretty good, but the whole point was not to win because if you win you need to host the damn thing and that costs money.

It means making money from tourism, advertising, broadcasting rights, etc etc ;)

..and the dumb texting/phoning vote. Plus you see some nice ass!

Yep, i voted once (last year for S.A.K.I.S.) and i wont do it again. I think i am already having a Eurovision OD :bash:



Have you checked Dantis? He now looks like a freakin' PIMP :lol:

Yes I know ...to be honest I am not into the Greek pop-bouzouki thing. I am old school. Like rembetiko, neo kyma, dalaras etc. I know I am xenerotos but what the heck. Now and then a good song comes up and I will buy it. Sfakianakis has said a few good ones lately. When I was younger of course I did the bouzouki scene now can't afford it!

Loco
05-24-2005, 05:44 AM
Sincerely, I didn`t know that the Eurovision contest happened last week end, I don´t know even who´s the singer of my country. As I know, a country with traditionally good singers like Italy doesn´t compete in that contest.

Musashi
05-24-2005, 05:46 AM
OMFG - they all sucked. Which I suppose has always been true. And the voting is more questionable than Florida 2000. ;)

hey, Moldova was hardcore :lol: Ive voted for them :P


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41171000/jpg/_41171909_moldova_afp.jpg

Moldavian RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS

I liked them the most and also this Achtung from Norway.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41171000/jpg/_41171917_wigwam_afp.jpg
Can you say new KISS?
Hi Sergei.
Remember Poles gave 12 points to Ukraine, while Russians just only 2 woot It seems they don't like your Revolution ;) Conclusion: Vladimir Vladimirovich does a great job in Russia, brainwashing people ;)

Clearday-TRForce
05-24-2005, 06:17 AM
Hi Sergei.
Remember Poles gave 12 points to Ukraine, while Russians just only 2 It seems they don't like your Revolution Conclusion: Vladimir Vladimirovich does a great job in Russia, brainwashing people


but u must consider that s a "song contest", not politics era. Orange,pink,black or anything else...