Land based missile.SS 21 Scurab(Tochka) and other ones

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

http://rusweapon.far.ru/img/art/otrk/9k79/3s.jpg
http://rusweapon.far.ru/img/art/otrk/9k79/2s.jpg
This system used by Libia and Jemen

[NicNZ]

Cheers for the pics, Ive seen footage of them im parades during the 1980s. I wonder if the missile itself can be replaced by newer missiles.

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

As I know more oldest system R 17(SS-1 Scud) was very difficult for distoroy by new AntiAircraft system Patriot in 1991 in duriny Iraqi missile attack on Israel.Scud has IC trap and sometimes deceived missiles of Patriot,which also had not enough weight of explosive for sure distroy Scud by distance explosition.Of course new version of Patriot-PAC3 have overcame this problems but Scud dangerous enemy yet.As Scud this is,especially SS 21 is it,because it has more advanced system of guidance.SS 21(Tochka) had used in Chechenija and Russian army has this system yet.News system Tochka-U entired in Army of Russia in 1993

More information about SS 21
http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/
Sytems the same caracteristicinfirst place of guidance:MGM Lance used by Armies of South Corea and Tajvan(missile on base of Lance-Green Bee),and for example news china system CSS-8 which has a different type of warhead (HE, submunitions, chemical).I as well new system of Pacistan Hatf 2(distance 300 km) also with different type of warhead (HE, submunitions, chemical).Israel system Ierichon 1 developed in 70 years and has the same haracterisic,but with more distance of fire 500 km,but in another hand Tochka is another system of weapon then Iericho.Russia have the same system of missile like a Iericho as Oka SS 23
Iericho 1.Indian missile Prithvi SS 150 has the same distance of fire as Tochka(about 150 Prithvi and 130 SS 21) as well system Condor from Argentina, developed by Egypt as middle range Condor 2

http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/jericho1_001.jpg


SS 1B
http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/ss-1b_001.jpg








Oka SS 23

http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/ss23_001.jpg

http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/ss23_002.jpg

Tochka
http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/ss21_001.jpg

Green bee
http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/green_bee.jpg

Lance

http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/mgm52_002.jpg

Alacran(Condor 1)



http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/alacran_001.jpg

Hatf 2
http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/hatf2_002.jpg
CSS8
http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/css8_001.jpg

Iericho 1
http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/jericho1_001.jpg

Prithvi SS 150

http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/ballistic/prithvi_ss-150_003.jpg

[Object 188]

Will be replaced by newest Iskander-M missiles... upto 480km in version for Russian Army. In export model - 280km and less advanced.
First brigade of such a things will start forming this year.

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Tochka
http://aeronautics.ru/archive/wmd/ballistic/
Type
Short-range, road-mobile, solid-propellant, single-warhead ballistic missile.

Development
The Russian designation for the SS-21 system is OTR-21 and 9K79, and for the missile is 9M79; the system name is Tochka (Point). The SS-21 `Scarab' was developed as the replacement for the short-range Free Rocket Over Ground (`FROG') missile and was introduced into service in 1976. The design was carried out by the Kolomna OKB (also known as KBM), led by Sergei Nepobedimy, who also designed the SS-23 `Spider' (OTR-23) and SS-X-26 'Stone' missile systems. A longer-range missile, SS-21 `Scarab B', known in Russia as Tochka-U, was introduced around 1986. A life extension programme was started in 1996, with the first flight test in 1999. There were unconfirmed reports that a further upgrade, SS-21 `Scarab C', resulted in a smaller missile with a range increased to 185 km, with two missiles being carried on a modified Transporter-Erector-Launcher (TEL). It is possible that these reports referred to a reload vehicle for SS-21, or perhaps to the development of the TEL for the SS-X-26 which carries two missiles.

Description
The SS-21 `Scarab A' is a short-range missile 6.4 m long and 0.65 m in diameter. It has a launch weight of 2,000 kg with a minimum range of 15 km and a maximum range of 70 km. Propulsion is a single-stage solid propellant motor and the missile uses an inertial guidance system. The control system employs four paddle type rear-mounted control fins, similar to those fitted to the SS-13 'Savage', SS-23 `Spider' and SS-25 'Sickle' ballistic missiles. These can control the missile in boost and terminal phases when within the atmosphere. In addition, vanes in the motor efflux contribute to stability immediately after launch. The paddle type control fins and control vanes are electrically actuated. The missile is reported to be able to fly either ballistic or cruise flight profiles, the latter profile uses wing lift and keeps the maximum altitude at around 30 km followed by a steep dive onto the target. Reports suggest that the 9M123F warhead with a unitary High Explosive (HE) fragmentation filling might also have some form of terminal guidance, while the 9M123K submunitions and 9M79B (AA60) nuclear warheads have no terminal guidance systems. All warheads are reported to have a nose-mounted laser altimeter, to act as a fuze function for air bursts. It is not clear if `Scarab A' has an anti-radar seeker or warhead. The missile can be equipped with conventional HE, chemical or nuclear warheads with a weight of 482 kg. It has been reported that the SS-21 has four types of conventional warhead; unitary HE fragmentation, anti-runway, anti-armour and anti-personnel submunitions, with 50 anti-armour or anti-personnel munitions carried in each warhead. Following the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty photographs of the SS-23, it would seem quite possible that the SS-21 also has an earth penetration HE or nuclear warhead. 'Scarab A' has an accuracy of 150 m CEP.
The missile is carried on a Titan Central Design Bureau six-wheeled modified ZIL-5937 or BAZ 5921 (9P129) transporter-erector-launcher vehicle and the associated transloader vehicle (9T218) carries a further two missiles. The 18,000 kg TEL vehicle is amphibious and capable of driving over rough terrain. The maximum road speed is 60 km/h and 10 km/h in water. Both the TEL and the transloader have Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) filter systems and decontamination systems. SS-21 missile brigades have 18 TELs each and probably 72 missiles. Additional vehicles associated with the SS-21 system are the command and control vehicle (GAZ-66), a mobile missile test vehicle (9V818), a maintenance vehicle (9V844), missile transporters (9T222) carrying two missiles, warhead transporters (9T238) carrying four warheads, a site survey vehicle (VAZ-452) and a meteorology vehicle. SS-21 missiles can be launched without pre-surveyed sites, but surveying requires a longer pre-launch preparation time.
The SS-21 `Scarab B' (9M79-1 Tochka-U) was first exhibited by Russia in 1993, with a new motor and improved guidance and control. The size and shape are similar to `Scarab A', the weight has increased to 2,010 kg and the maximum range has been increased to 120 km. A minimum range of 20 km was reported. This version has a maximum velocity of 1.8 km/s and a maximum dive angle of 85є. There is reported to be a terminal guidance system, probably using the Central Scientific Research Institute for Automation and Hydraulics (TsNIAG) radar or optical (TV) correlation systems coupled to Glonass positioning system data to update the inertial navigation system. Mobile target assessment and allocation vehicles are used to provide coordinates to the missiles before launch. The 'Scarab B' system can be operated with a crew of three, and can launch a missile within 16 minutes of arrival at an unprepared site. It takes 20 minutes to reload a launcher. `Scarab B' has built-in test equipment. It is reported that there are six warhead options: two nuclear rated at 10 kT and 100 kT; a unitary HE; an airburst anti-personnel fragmentation with 50 submunitions; a high airburst Electro-Magnetic Pulse (EMP); and an anti-radar blast warhead for use against ground or ship radar targets. The warhead weight is 482 kg. `Scarab B' is reported to have the capability to make preprogrammed manoeuvres of up to 10 g during the terminal phase of flight to make interception more difficult for the defence. The paddle type control fins also control the missile when the anti-radar seeker payload is used. 'Scarab B' has an accuracy of 95 m CEP.
The SS-21 `Scarab C' was reported to be in development flight trials in 1989, with a smaller missile (about 1,800 kg launch weight) and a larger redesigned TEL vehicle that carries two missiles side-by-side. The `Scarab C' version is believed to have a range increased to 185 km.

Operational status
The SS-21 `Scarab A' entered service in 1976, and has been exported to Belarus, Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Poland, Slovakia, Syria, and Ukraine. It is believed that the missiles from Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia have all been removed from service. It is estimated that there are approximately 300 TEL vehicles deployed in Russia. US reports suggest that production of SS-21 `Scarab' missiles continues, with 200 missiles being built each year; but it is believed that the Russian in service total in 1993, was probably near to 1,200 missiles and that production ceased in 1993. It is reported that there are 310 nuclear warheads available for the SS-21 in Russia. The `Scarab B' version is believed to have entered service in 1986. A further version is reported to be in development called `Scarab C', but this has not been offered for export. A life extension programme started in 1996, to increase the life from 15 to 25 years, and this was first flight tested in October 1999. An unconfirmed report has suggested that Syria exported a small number of SS-21 'Scarab' missiles and their TELs to North Korea in 1996, for reverse engineering and technology transfer. It is believed that between 60 and 100 SRBM were used by Russia in Chechnya during 1999, and that the majority of these were SS-21 missiles with a smaller number of SS-1 'Scud B'. Flight tests of the SS-21 missile are conducted regularly in the Russian Federation, with the last reported flights in April and October 1999. A missile test in Ukraine resulted in an SS-21 missile going off course and landing in a suburb of Kiev in April 2000. It is reported that Ukraine had 500 missiles, and had tested 18 up to April 2000.
Specifications
SS-21 `Scarab A'
Length 6.4 m
Body diameter 0.65 m
Launch weight 2,000 kg
Payload Single warhead; 482 kg
Warheads HE, chemical or nuclear (10 or 100 kT)
Guidance Inertial
Propulsion Single stage solid
Range 70 km
Accuracy 150 m CEP
SS-21 `Scarab B'
Length 6.4 m
Body diameter 0.65 m
Launch weight 2,010 kg
Payload Single warhead; 482 kg
Warhead HE, chemical, nuclear (10 kT or 100 kT) or submunitions
Guidance Inertial with passive radar terminal option
Propulsion Single stage solid
Range 120 km
Accuracy 95 m CEP


Contractors
SS-21 `Scarab' was designed by the Kolomna design bureau (KBM) and was manufactured by the Votkinsk Machine Building Plant at Udmurt and the Petropavlovsk Machinery Plant, Kazakhstan. The system is being marketed by Rosvooruzheniye, Moscow. The TEL vehicle was designed by Titan OKB in Volgograd, and manufactured by the Barrikady Industrial Association at Volgograd. The solid-propellant motor was manufactured by Soyuz NPO at Dzerzhisky.

[Marmot1]

A year or two ago we had accident with warhead that expolded during inspection killing 3 or 4 military and civilan personel. There was nothing left for autopsy...

Poland has IIRC one sqadron/battery of Tochka launchers

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

What kind of firing device this warhead has?

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Will be replaced by newest Iskander-M missiles... upto 480km in version for Russian Army. In export model - 280km and less advanced.
First brigade of such a things will start forming this year.

Iskander
http://rusweapon.far.ru/img/art/otrk/iskander/4.jpg
http://rusweapon.far.ru/img/art/otrk/iskander/5.jpg
http://rusweapon.far.ru/img/art/otrk/iskander/3.jpg

http://rusweapon.far.ru/index.phtml

[Marmot1]

What kind of firing device this warhead has?

It was conventional warhead from stockpile that was being inspected to decide wheather it is still usable or not AFAIK it exploded when screws were removed from inspection plate. Fortunatelly inspection was performed in open terrain on firing range and not in warehouse. Friend fo mine was at Polish JAG office and was assistant to officer who was investigating this case. They suspected that it might have been some kind of bobby trap routinelly instaled to avoid enemy examinig misile in case of warhead failure. Of course cooperation with Russian manufacturer was ****ty and they told nothing. (And they wonder why we don't buy russian equipment...)

[Igor01]

(And they wonder why we don't buy russian equipment...)

Surely it has nothing to do with political motivations, now does it?

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

What kind of firing device this warhead has?

It was conventional warhead from stockpile that was being inspected to decide wheather it is still usable or not AFAIK it exploded when screws were removed from inspection plate. Fortunatelly inspection was performed in open terrain on firing range and not in warehouse. Friend fo mine was at Polish JAG office and was assistant to officer who was investigating this case. They suspected that it might have been some kind of bobby trap routinelly instaled to avoid enemy examinig misile in case of warhead failure. Of course cooperation with Russian manufacturer was ****ty and they told nothing. (And they wonder why we don't buy russian equipment...)
I am very dodbt in ****y trup.The same devices used only in WW,in first hand by Germany for aviation bombs in during war.In really most popular was used of delay devices.Is not need for modern rocket which must have cheking of firing devices evry year.I suppose Poland have has these systems for year,and polish specialists had inspecting evry year without accsident(I suppose).As I know(I am not specialist for rocket)evry party of rockets(with the same data and place production) must cheking after a few year.Some kind of rocket fuel loose capacity after 10 years.I am intresting about kind of firing device(electronic for distance explosion or mechanical for depth explosition) on account of dangerous with handing with these projectil.In really mechanical firing devices arming in during flight,and vvery difficult without strong strike to activate it store.Explosive will not activate from unscrew,except very old type of melinit used in first and second world war by Germany army(and US Airforce sonetimes).In really have not many different between conditions of store any types of rockets.What about problems in communication,I think reason of that is communication with peolpe in russian company Rosvooruzenije which have not former possibility of organisation of Warsaw pact. I shall send latter link about russian rockets system,but data there very limited

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Germany(WW) ****y trap under firing device E.L.A.Z 17 of aviation bombs
http://artofwar.ru/img/w/waleckij_o_w/voprosirazminirovanija/zus40.e.l.a.z.17.jpg

[grist]

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http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/archives/tow/tow_01.jpg

[GazB]

Cheers for the pics, Ive seen footage of them im parades during the 1980s. I wonder if the missile itself can be replaced by newer missiles.

They could but I don't know why you'd want to. 120km range with a 480kg warhead with a CEP of about 20m sounds pretty good for a tactical ballistic missile to me. An all weather strike weapon that can reach into the enemies rear areas or anywhere near the front line with good acuracy without risking any pilots either in the strike aircraft or all the dozens of support aircraft you'd need for such a strike.


As I know more oldest system R 17(SS-1 Scud) was very difficult for distoroy by new AntiAircraft system Patriot in 1991

That was mainly because the Patriot was designed to engage aircraft, not ballistic missiles.


Will be replaced by newest Iskander-M missiles... upto 480km in version for Russian Army. In export model - 280km and less advanced.
First brigade of such a things will start forming this year.

Not so sure. The Iskander is a different system and was designed to replace the Scud. It has better range and much better accuracy with a similar warhead. The Tochka replaces battlefield rockets like the FROG-7 series. It is used at shorter ranges, and being guided it is a much better system. Russian service versions of these weapons have much greater range as export missiles are limited by an export agreement on missiles that range cannot exceed 300km and warhead cannot exceed 500kgs.



BTW nice post grist, but the first few missiles you show photos of are HAWK SAMs. They certainly look like the Honest John and Lance tactical ballistic missiles you also post but the triple launcher is a giveaway.


edit now that it has fully downloaded it includes TOW ATGMs, Patriot SAMs and some really old SAMs (the white two stage missiles) as well.

[Object 188]

[quote]Cheers for the pics, Ive seen footage of them im parades during the 1980s. I wonder if the missile itself can be replaced by newer missiles.

They could but I don't know why you'd want to. 120km range with a 480kg warhead with a CEP of about 20m sounds pretty good for a tactical ballistic missile to me. An all weather strike weapon that can reach into the enemies rear areas or anywhere near the front line with good acuracy without risking any pilots either in the strike aircraft or all the dozens of support aircraft you'd need for such a strike.

I can tell you even more. In Chechnya (2nd War - 1999-2001) Tochka-U were used a lot of times... for example in Grozniy they destroyed several 12th floors buildings, turned by terrorists into strongholds, hitting many of them into ventilation or elevator hatches on roof... with explosion in underground. I saw this.
Also, in January 2000 in Shali Tochka-U hit right in center of town square, filled with assholes, that decided to "celebrate" "successful"(they thought so... but FSB officers, transmitted those coordinates for strike to HQ were anouth thougths). About 200 were killed and injured. Remains (20-30) run out from the town.
So - CEP 20m is only for export version.
Btw, we use another term instead of CEP. Another method of calculation. It's much more correct.


As I know more oldest system R 17(SS-1 Scud) was very difficult for distoroy by new AntiAircraft system Patriot in 1991

That was mainly because the Patriot was designed to engage aircraft, not ballistic missiles.

S-300PM also was designed to fight with planes (in first, P, PS variants)... and cruise missiles, but successfully destry a missiles as well... it's a question of modernization. PM2 has much more capabilities...


Will be replaced by newest Iskander-M missiles... upto 480km in version for Russian Army. In export model - 280km and less advanced.
First brigade of such a things will start forming this year.

Not so sure. The Iskander is a different system and was designed to replace the Scud.

"Elbrus" (you call them Scud) are NOT on duty service here. Although we have a whole bunch of them in a stockpile...
So, Iskander-M will be a good addition to Tochka-U, but not replacement for a Scud.

It has better range and much better accuracy with a similar warhead.

Local version of Iskander (M) has 3 (4 in the fufture) types of guidance, 5 variants of warhead munition, included also a "Special warhead" (nuke, without it nobody here even wouldn't start that whole thing with Iskanders). Don't mess with "E" version... exports... there are only one type of guidance and one warhead type.




The Tochka replaces battlefield rockets like the FROG-7 series. It is used at shorter ranges, and being guided it is a much better system. Russian service versions of these weapons have much greater range as export missiles are limited by an export agreement on missiles that range cannot exceed 300km and warhead cannot exceed 500kgs.

Yes. On export version it's true. 280km and 480kg. But local version has upto 480km and can't say how much (not that much) kgs of warhead.

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/archives/hawk/hawk_02.jpg

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http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/archives/pershing/pershing_1_16jun65_gb_utah_01.jpg

http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/archives/pershing/pershing_1_17nov64_wsmr_02.jpg

http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/archives/pershing/pershing_1_w_pershing_superimposed.jpg

http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/archives/tow/tow_01.jpg

Good fotos,but i would be like to have names of these systems

[sergey31]

Was it SS-21 or 23 that was responsible for finding Dudayev talking on his satellite phone in the field?