Royal Marine Commandos

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[Macs.]

Cool Pics, but: SA80 = Teh suck ! p-)

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Im a big fan of the mixed n matched dpm camoflauge.

[MolliG]

C7s... Before anyone asks...

;)

[Operation Ivy]

Good Pics

[uri]

nice looking boys
http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/rough/rocketwhore.gif

[Frens]

http://www.operations.mod.uk/veritas/img/veritas/45cdogp/ptarm03.jpg

why the man on the left has a yellow colored rifle?? it's strange, isn't it?

[Macs.]

Thats the golden-gun. One shot kills everything. :)

[Roger Rabbit]

C7s... Before anyone asks... Cheeers, saves me asking. Anyway i have some more questions. The 'Golden Gun' question has already been asked so just waiting to see if anyone can help for that one but here are the rest of my little q's.
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/May1996/960504-M-7232C-005.jpg
Who are the guys with the RMs? US Marines?

http://news.mod.uk/img/pressdatabase/images/supportingImages/large/prr01_tn.jpg
Is this a British version of MILES? Have the British military now adopted something like the MILES or is it just some equipment borrowed from someone else?

[Ratamacue]

Who are the guys with the RMs? US Marines?
Looks like the patch says US NAVY. Plus, I don't see the USMC emblem below that or on his cover.

[IDFM203]

Truly awesome pictures!! :D

Besides the IDF (of course ;) :D ) I have always liked the way the brits looked, especially their “warry look” as you brits call it (I believe I have already had this discussion a while back on this aspect with some of you).

Just a couple of simple questions.

First how do the berets work……meaning is it like with Israel where different units get different colours?? I mean how do the different colours work and who gets what?? I have seen some with red and some with green, are there more colours or that’s it?? And if its not like that, then how does it work?


Now this next question is a small one and its directed to the British soldiers on this board (the BTDT’s)
I see some pics where the soldier has his helmet attached on his side…..why is that done??
Wouldn’t it perhaps make sense to attach it on the back where its more comfortable and more secure in place (as opposed to flopping up and down on the side) and easier for you maneuver(sp?) or move with, especially when you are running or when you drop down? (Yes I know its easier access to it when it’s on the side, but its really very marginal and only slightly easier then when it’s on the back, but still the other reasons I think make it more sence to have it on the back)

Thanks in advance for any answers that I will get :D

Shalom :D

[Guttorm]

SA80 = Teh suck ! p-)

Ok... Have you got ANY experience with this gun? With the new version?
Or are you just joining the party of people with no experience, dissing this gun??

As far as I know, the SA 80 works fine after the new adjustments, except for the fact that it's troublesome for links shooters.

[Frens]

I read the H&K make the new adjustments to the SA80... is it true?

[Mace]

I personally dont have experience with the A2, but a friend of mine spent a lot of time using them during Royal Marine training, and said the only time he had a problem with it was when he had a stoppage after not fitting a magazine correctly, which is basically his own fault, bearing in mind that i think they would spend around 3 days in the field every week. It is also true that HK made the modifications, because it says HK all over the rifle :) . I personally like the SA80 and would be happy to use the A2.

To IDFM203, with regards to the berets we wear;

Every Regiment/Corps in the British Army has a designated colour for their beret, and it varies a lot throughout. Most of the Corps (i.e. Combat Support Arms, Support Arms) wear a black beret, whereas most Infantry Regiments wear their own colour.

There are however some exceptions, for example, if you wear the black beret of your Corps (Engineers, Signals, Logistics etc) and you have passed P Company and got your parachute wings, then you are entitled to wear the maroon beret of the Parachute Regiment with your own capbadge, and if you have passed the All Arms Commando Course, you are entitled to wear the green beret of the Royal Marines Commandos with your own capbadge.

It does get more complicated than this, and as you may have guessed the beret is a great matter of personal pride to a British soldier :) but thats the simple way of getting it across.

[marktigger]

the rules governing para and commando beret also state thet when you are posted away from 3 commando or 16 air assualt. Your are to revert to the beret of your parent corps.

[marktigger]

a few comments on the Royal Marine pics

The Golden rifle is on badly painted.

And the M16's probably are M16A2 the Cdo Bde patrol troop carried them on 'saif serrea'

[Fioraon]

They are all white!!!

They are all white!!!

What you talkin about? There green.... :P

[Javehn]

I have another question . I saw some British troops wering they berret during conflict , whie the helmet is sitting comfortably on his side . How does it work ? And all british troops using SA80 as light arms , or you have also something else ? Cool uniforms , by the way .. Why some soldiers have woodland camo as "shirt" , and desert camo as "pence" ? We don't have any problems with that , everything is the same color :(

[California Joe]

It just looks cooler that way.

Can one of you Brits tell me the model number of the two man Super Soaker in this pic? :lol:
http://www.operations.mod.uk/fresco/images/training_marines.jpg

[Herrmannek]

No this is watersoft supersoaker, you can tell that b/c of leak in lower reciver :)

[oldsoak]

Believe it or not, I'm told that that combination of temperate DPM smock and desert DPM trousers actually works quite well in those regions - possibly because there are patches of bush dotted around the place ( especially in the valleys where you get water ) The man to ask is Royal.

[Royal]

C7s... Before anyone asks...

;)

Wrong - M16A2's. The C7 has not been accepted into UK service (yet) the C8SFW has as the L119A1.

[Royal]

It just looks cooler that way.

Can one of you Brits tell me the model number of the two man Super Soaker in this pic? :lol:
http://www.operations.mod.uk/fresco/images/training_marines.jpg

Op FIASCO (sorry FRESCO) UK military support to the Civil Population when the Fire Brigades went on strike in late 2002.


Believe it or not, I'm told that that combination of temperate DPM smock and desert DPM trousers actually works quite well in those regions - possibly because there are patches of bush dotted around the place ( especially in the valleys where you get water ) The man to ask is Royal.

You are entirely correct, It's long been proved in Kenya, Cyprus and Botswanna. Although in the early stages of Telic and Veritas there were limited supplies of desert kit (especially windproof smocks), so we wore old DPM windproofs.

[Royal]

http://news.mod.uk/img/pressdatabase/images/supportingImages/large/prr01_tn.jpg
Is this a British version of MILES? Have the British military now adopted something like the MILES or is it just some equipment borrowed from someone else?

ISAWES - Improved Small Arms Weapons Effect Simulator - although for some reason he's not wearing either the sensor helmet band or vest... IMHO better than MILES but...


Now this next question is a small one and its directed to the British soldiers on this board (the BTDT’s)
I see some pics where the soldier has his helmet attached on his side…..why is that done??
Wouldn’t it perhaps make sense to attach it on the back where its more comfortable and more secure in place (as opposed to flopping up and down on the side) and easier for you maneuver(sp?) or move with, especially when you are running or when you drop down? (Yes I know its easier access to it when it’s on the side, but its really very marginal and only slightly easier then when it’s on the back, but still the other reasons I think make it more sence to have it on the back)

The simple answer is that it's easier to get at. In CEFO (web gear with no bergan we tend to carry it like that), with daysacs or bergans (CEMO) they tend to go on top or inside.

In a situation with an NBC risk every man must be able to reach his respirator and helmet so, they're usually carried together...

In the end there are no hard and fast rules.

[marktigger]

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/full/989832037f.jpg

I think this is one of the best bootie images from the Royal navy site.

[Javehn]

Thanks for the camo info ,guys .
Another little question : Does every british regiment have it's own strange name - like Royal green Jackets , or Royal Gussars , or Royal whatever ? That's kinda confusing ...
I noticed that British soldier's wear harnest without a bag pack (in our place that's considered old gear) . What is the standart equipment every soldier carries (Let's say to simple patrol mission ) . Also , again , does all soldiers use sa80 , or there is another weapon used ? I heard something called "Armelite " , i am not shure what is it , is that one in use by British troops ? And what is the percentage of soldiers that have optics on they weapons (X4 , X8) ?

[oldsoak]

Regiments have names usually based on where they historically did most of their recruiting. eg Welsh Fusiliers, Staffordshire regiment etc. The names are not confusing once you are in it. ( Basically your regiment comes first, all others come second ). I think the nearest the Israelis have is a brigade ( Chativa ? )
Armalite is a generic name used to denote various models of M16.
What we take on patrols - depends on what sort of patrols - here again chaps like Royal or Martinexsquaddie would be good people to ask. I suppose its down to unit SOPS - personally I always carry a thermos flask of hot sweet tea !
:D
rgds

[oldsoak]

Oh, forgot - infantry have a SUSAT 4X scope on their SA80's, non-infantry have iron sights. I dont know whats on the various M16's we use as I 've never had one.
rgds

[marktigger]

Due to the British army's history we have a lot of named regiments belonging to Armoured and Infantry regiments mostly are Geographical reflecting the Regiments original recruiting area.
eg The Royal Irish Regiment , The cheshire Regiment and Argyll And Sutherland Highlanders.

some reflect the old role of the regiment concerned eg Light Infantry, Royal Green Jackets (rifle regiment)

some reflect the new roles eg Parachute regiment

some reflect the regiments history or historical figures or current members of the royal family connected to the regiment eg Duke of wellingtons regiment, Princess of wales regiment,

then there are the Royal Household Regiments like the: Grenidier Guards, Scots Guards, Irish Guards, Welsh Guards and The Coldstream Guards.

the Cavalry fall into 3 broad classess depending on former role

Household cavalry is an exception as it is a Royal Household regiment

the roles being
Dragoons/Dragoon Guards eg: Queens Dragoon Guards
Lancers eg: Queens Royal Lancers
Hussars eg: Queens Royal Hussars

and then most recently a new role Tanks eg Royal Tank Regiment

each regiment has its own cap badge,history and traditions. its title reflects this and the countless amalgamations and disbandments etc it has gone through.
The Royal Marines however are not part of the army they belong to the
Royal navy though some of their support elements are army units.

Our standard webbing PLCE is designed to be worn in different ways depending on the level of equipment needed from just belt kit, Through rocket pouches( the side pouches of the bergan on a yoke), Patrol pack (a small bergan type daysac), To Bergan(2 types infantry and all arms).
Added to this there is now Chest webbing and Assualt vests. Then to further complicate matters soldiers use what kit is comfortable and practical for them on ops which they purchase or acquire themselves.

The standard rifle issued is the L85a1 being replaced by the L85a2 both are otherwise known as SA80. The 'Armalite' is another name for the M16 the first variant used by the British army was the Armalite AR15 added to which the IRA called them Armalites after the semi auto AR15's they bought in america and it went into slang usage in the British army. Originally the AR15/16 was issued to special forces like SAS and RM and Para patrol troops/platoons and for Jungle warfare. It has been replaced in Jungle warfare by ordinary units by the SA80. But newer versions have been purchased for the SAS/SBS, Royal Marine and Para Patrol Platoons/Troops.

The issue of SUSAT(optics on SA80) is mainly to infantry soldiers and some support arms. Most support arms have the Iron sighted version though the Iron sights can be removed and SUSAT fitted and vice versa.

[Javehn]

God damnit , thank you , chaps ( or mates , or brave ladies , whatever you prefer . :) ) for that info . So there are intellegent people here after all.. (no offence , but some guy talled me that soldiers in UK army are not the brightest one ever . I understand that he is a bit exadurating ) . And i do love your uniform and gear , i think it's much better looking then U.S. gear ...
Armalite is M16 , that's explain it all . I heard that one all the time , and didn't understand what the hell is that..Now i know .
What mission does royal commando do ? They considered as an infantry of high class , or specially designated infantry , or they are trully special operation force ?

[MolliG]

C7s... Before anyone asks...

;)

Wrong - M16A2's. The C7 has not been accepted into UK service (yet) the C8SFW has as the L119A1.

Hmmm... I don't think they're A2, simply because of the C7/M723 Uppers. Do Colt/FN produced a M723 'style' 'long' model? Maybe they are modifed M16 or M16A1s (from the ones in stock)?

:|

Edit-

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/full/989830751f.jpg
That's no A2...

'A2' Barrel, M723 Upper, (what looks like) 'A2' Furniture = (To me) C7 (I don't think modified M16 as the 'Ribs' are present)... Or maybe just a *Insert Manufacturer Here (Bushmaster etc)* A2 model?

:)

[oldsoak]

Here is a link that might explain what they do

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/141.html


- as you can see, they do all sorts of things ! :)

rgds

[Javehn]

Thanks . I have read and got smarter.. Or maybe not ... :|

[Ayura]

Im hoping to hone the honour of wearing a green beret one day.

Any royal marines here, can you please give my your email as I need some advice about the royal marines ok.

Anyways, these are my favourite picz from the royal marines, pretty sick if ya ask me.


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/348803/sniperinkosovo.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/348803/59commandoengineersinomen.jpg

[marktigger]

Our issued web gear is much better quality than the US gear.

you can then add in the Regimental variations of the rank structure and distinctions of dress.

eg ranks

Private:

Kingsman: kings regt
Ranger: Royal Irish regiment/Royal Irish Rangers
Guardsman: Foot guard regiments
Trooper: Cavalry/SAS
Air Trooper: Army air corps
Gunner: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery
Sapper: Royal Engineer
Signalman: Royal corps of signals
Rifleman: Royal Green Jackets

[marktigger]

molig I have it on good authority they are M16a2's though with a full auto trigger group.

[MolliG]

molig I have it on good authority they are M16a2's though with a full auto trigger group.

It must just be a designation thing then :) . As I, and I expect others, believe those are not (full-blown proper US issue Colt/FN) Model 16 Advance 2s. :hug:

[Ayura]

Does the Royal Marines have a Sniper Platoon as well?

[Royal]

Does the Royal Marines have a Sniper Platoon as well?

The manouvre support companies of all three Commando's have a sniper section.

Recce troops historically had snipers and many snipers move on to that job. The RM sniper course is (and always has been) a part of the ML2 (Mountain Leader) course (which is done by all RM NCO's in the BRF, as well as many Marines). The SBS has it's own sniper training (based partly on the normal course at CTC).

MolliG - I said the C7 hadn't been accepted into service, that doesn't mean there aren't any arround ;)

[Royal]

Im hoping to hone the honour of wearing a green beret one day.

Any royal marines here, can you please give my your email as I need some advice about the royal marines ok.

I don't give out my email (I get enough crap on it already). Feel free to PM me, but if it's general advice you're after put it in the forums so others can benefit.