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Pille1234
05-26-2005, 09:59 AM
French fries protester regrets war jibe
Jamie Wilson in Washington
Wednesday May 25, 2005
The Guardian
It was a culinary rebuke that echoed around the world, heightening the sense of tension between Washington and Paris in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. But now the US politician who led the campaign to change the name of french fries to "freedom fries" has turned against the war.
Walter Jones, the Republican congressman for North Carolina who was also the brains behind french toast becoming freedom toast in Capitol Hill restaurants, told a local newspaper the US went to war "with no justification".
Mr Jones, who in March 2003 circulated a letter demanding that the three cafeterias in the House of Representatives' office buildings ban the word french from menus, said it was meant as a "light-hearted gesture".
But the name change, still in force, made headlines around the world, both for what it said about US-French relations and its pettiness.
Now Mr Jones appears to agree. Asked by a reporter for the North Carolina News and Observer about the name-change campaign - an idea Mr Jones said at the time came to him by a combination of God's hand and a constituent's request - he replied: "I wish it had never happened."
Although he voted for the war, he has since become one of its most vociferous opponents on Capitol Hill, where the hallway outside his office is lined with photographs of the "faces of the fallen".
"If we were given misinformation intentionally by people in this administration, to commit the authority to send boys, and in some instances girls, to go into Iraq, that is wrong," he told the newspaper. "Congress must be told the truth."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1491463,00.html
:lol:
CMNot
05-26-2005, 10:29 AM
Seriously, how f*cking petty is that, renaming food? Its the kind of thing Id expect from kids... :roll:
Legion
05-26-2005, 11:11 AM
I always thought freedom fries was kinda retarted anyway.
Igor01
05-26-2005, 11:37 AM
Hell even during the darkest times of communist rule in the USSR we never had such outrageos public displays of political establishment retardation. It's just too orwellian to be true...
Midav
05-26-2005, 12:26 PM
I always thought freedom fries was kinda retarted anyway.
Similar terms go way back...
In WW II Sauerkraut was called Liberty Cabage and Hamurgers were known as Liberty Steaks.
I'm sure there were many other names.... anyhoo, I thought the Freedom Fries thing was pretty neat myself ;)
Werewolf01
05-26-2005, 12:36 PM
I move that from this day froward we refer to them as "Belgian Fries". They're Belgian anyway, and besides, the Belgians never make anybody mad. :P
2Sheds_Jackson
05-26-2005, 12:51 PM
UPI 26 MAY 2005
12:28 EST
Washington
In a stunning reversal of his previous political food naming patterns, Republican Walter Jones of North Carolina has circulated a memo demanding that freedom fries and freedom toast (formerly French fries and French toast, respectively) be renamed as "Lying Bastard Bush Fries" and "This Was All Just For Oil Wasn't It, Toast".
The Congressman, who's consistent idiocy and penchant for renaming food products at the drop of a hat has also taken to calling our fighting forces "boys and girls".
"If we were given misinformation intentionally by people in this administration, to commit the authority to send boys, and in some instances girls, to go into Iraq, that is wrong,"
When pressed as to why he addresses our trained fighting forces as minor children, when many are older and more experienced than he is, he responded curiously. "Boys have a Freedom Willie, and Girls have a Liberty Hoo-Hoo" he said, while absentmindedly drawing a smiley face on a piece of scrap paper.
Jones, who apparently left his convictions as well as his mental capacity in the trunk of his car, is resting comfortably after an incident at McDonalds. According to reports, he was confronted with the large backlit menu, and was overwhelmed with the opportunities for renaming food to suit his political ends. He made it through half of the lunch menu before collapsing onto the restaurant floor, while attempting to work the words "Rumsfeld" and "asshole" into the name of the McFlurry.
Clarsachier
05-26-2005, 12:54 PM
I think the whole thing was a simple joke that got way out of hand due to those who vilify France.
California Joe
05-26-2005, 01:05 PM
UPI 26 MAY 2005
12:28 EST
Washington
In a stunning reversal of his previous political food naming patterns, Republican Walter Jones of North Carolina has circulated a memo demanding that freedom fries and freedom toast (formerly French fries and French toast, respectively) be renamed as "Lying Bastard Bush Fries" and "This Was All Just For Oil Wasn't It, Toast".
The Congressman, who's consistent idiocy and penchant for renaming food products at the drop of a hat has also taken to calling our fighting forces "boys and girls".
"If we were given misinformation intentionally by people in this administration, to commit the authority to send boys, and in some instances girls, to go into Iraq, that is wrong,"
When pressed as to why he addresses our trained fighting forces as minor children, when many are older and more experienced than he is, he responded curiously. "Boys have a Freedom Willie, and Girls have a Liberty Hoo-Hoo" he said, while absentmindedly drawing a smiley face on a piece of scrap paper.
Jones, who apparently left his convictions as well as his mental capacity in the trunk of his car, is resting comfortably after an incident at McDonalds. According to reports, he was confronted with the large backlit menu, and was overwhelmed with the opportunities for renaming food to suit his political ends. He made it through half of the lunch menu before collapsing onto the restaurant floor, while attempting to work the words "Rumsfeld" and "asshole" into the name of the McFlurry.
Hehehehe. I'd like the Heathbar Rumsfeld crunchy asshole McFlurry please.
Bombtrack
05-26-2005, 01:34 PM
*waits for usa320 and conservative53 to shout FLIP-FLOPPER*
Sharp
05-26-2005, 01:42 PM
If they had history book they could know that the fries are Belgian.. and not French p-)
So it's just an insult against our Belgian friends.
Herrmannek
05-26-2005, 01:44 PM
I liked freedom fries...we called them just fries(frytki) so fredom prefix made them more cool...
Clarsachier
05-26-2005, 01:59 PM
What do you put on 'em? We're mostly into catsup.
Herrmannek
05-26-2005, 02:04 PM
What do you put on 'em? We're mostly into catsup.
salt, ketchup some spices mixes(garlic, pizza mix ) depending on mood all or only some of them.. also if eaten with meat that have some sauce(plum sauce with fat that melted from meat is GREAT esspecialy if "burned" a little) it goes on them instead of above...
Werewolf01
05-26-2005, 02:06 PM
LOTS OF MAYO!!!! YUM!!!! (and sometimes A1) :P
California Joe
05-26-2005, 02:06 PM
Quebecois put cheese curds and gravy on them and call them "Poutine"
I poured some leftover chili on some and some shredded cheese for Chili Cheese Fries for lunch. Mmmmmm
Werewolf01
05-26-2005, 02:09 PM
Quebecois put cheese curds and gravy on them and call them "Poutine"
I poured some leftover chili on some and some shredded cheese for Chili Cheese Fries for lunch. Mmmmmm
Do they go well with your 17 or 18 beers?
California Joe
05-26-2005, 02:13 PM
Why yes, yes they do. Thanks for asking. Did I mention they're "light" beers? So really I'm drinking 4 gallons of water. p-)
Legion
05-26-2005, 02:24 PM
It's important to stay hydrated. p-)
Stormy
05-26-2005, 02:55 PM
I never called them freedom fries or French fries, I just call them fries.
PeterRJG
05-26-2005, 03:32 PM
Hell, we call them chips here. :D
Aerosoul
05-26-2005, 03:53 PM
I don't think anyone ever intended for the name to go as far as it did.
foxtrot023
05-26-2005, 04:00 PM
I don't think anyone ever intended for the name to go as far as it did.
I think they did, and that was their purpose, they just didnīt realize how stupid they would end up looking.....
California Joe
05-26-2005, 04:18 PM
It's not like Americans all of a sudden started adding "Freedom" to their goddamn orders at the drive thru. Jesus, it was a bull**** grandstanding politician thing to do. Now he's suddenly had a "come to Jesus"(as farmgirl would say) epiphany and realizes he looks like a huge "bag of ****s" (as Matchanu would say)
Werewolf01
05-26-2005, 04:24 PM
It's not like Americans all of a sudden started adding "Freedom" to their goddamn orders at the drive thru. Jesus, it was a bull**** grandstanding politician thing to do. Now he's suddenly had a "come to Jesus"(as farmgirl would say) epiphany and realizes he looks like a huge "bag of ****s" (as Matchanu would say)
Parlez-vous Freedom? I have freedom cuffs on my shirt. I use freedom curves to draw graphs. I eat Freedom Silk Pie for dessert. WTF would anybody do something this assanine?
Stormy
05-26-2005, 04:30 PM
I dunno but a bag of ****s don't sound too good. :lol:
Politicians are usually corny anyways. Cornballs say french fries or freedom fries but the real cool guys just say fries. :P
roland
05-26-2005, 04:36 PM
Freedom fries:
an idea Mr Jones said at the time came to him by a combination of God's hand and a constituent's request...
ROFL :lol:
Damian
05-26-2005, 05:05 PM
I'm still a supporter of freedom fries and freedom toast and I think that every true American Patriot should do the same thing. :)
PeterRJG
05-26-2005, 05:31 PM
I still think French kissing sounds better than Freedom kissing.
Legion
05-26-2005, 05:32 PM
Yeah saying "You have so much perfume on you smell like a freedom whore!" doesn't really sound right either. :|
Aerosoul
05-26-2005, 05:37 PM
:lol:
Damian
05-26-2005, 05:51 PM
Yeah saying "You have so much perfume on you smell like a freedom whore!" doesn't really sound right either. :|
that's funny :lol: :lol: :lol:
zzztip
05-26-2005, 06:27 PM
French wh*re or hysteric obese American b*tch ?
The choice is easy :lol: :lol:
It is definitely nice to see that some Americans can realize how low they can go sometimes (...ok, often).
I really like the idea "Lying Bastard Bush Fries" but americans are currently standing on their arrogance and dirty patriotism so it is not going to happen rofl rofl rofl
CPL Trevoga
05-26-2005, 07:07 PM
French fries protester regrets war jibe
Jamie Wilson in Washington
Wednesday May 25, 2005
The Guardian
It was a culinary rebuke that echoed around the world, heightening the sense of tension between Washington and Paris in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. But now the US politician who led the campaign to change the name of french fries to "freedom fries" has turned against the war.
Walter Jones, the Republican congressman for North Carolina who was also the brains behind french toast becoming freedom toast in Capitol Hill restaurants, told a local newspaper the US went to war "with no justification".
Mr Jones, who in March 2003 circulated a letter demanding that the three cafeterias in the House of Representatives' office buildings ban the word french from menus, said it was meant as a "light-hearted gesture".
But the name change, still in force, made headlines around the world, both for what it said about US-French relations and its pettiness.
Now Mr Jones appears to agree. Asked by a reporter for the North Carolina News and Observer about the name-change campaign - an idea Mr Jones said at the time came to him by a combination of God's hand and a constituent's request - he replied: "I wish it had never happened."
Although he voted for the war, he has since become one of its most vociferous opponents on Capitol Hill, where the hallway outside his office is lined with photographs of the "faces of the fallen".
"If we were given misinformation intentionally by people in this administration, to commit the authority to send boys, and in some instances girls, to go into Iraq, that is wrong," he told the newspaper. "Congress must be told the truth."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1491463,00.html
:lol:
Hello and welcome to yestarday. Freedom fries crap been over for a while.
I actually ate some freedom fries, they tasted just like french fries. Go figure. Damn marketing ploy of McDonalds.
Aerosoul
05-26-2005, 07:17 PM
^ Yes but the man is now stating his regret.
panzerjager
05-26-2005, 07:46 PM
americans are currently standing on their arrogance and dirty patriotism
Did we Americans stand on our patriotism, which made it "dirty"?
California Joe
05-26-2005, 08:01 PM
French wh*re or hysteric obese American b*tch ?
The choice is easy :lol: :lol:
It is definitely nice to see that some Americans can realize how low they can go sometimes (...ok, often).
I really like the idea "Lying Bastard Bush Fries" but americans are currently standing on their arrogance and dirty patriotism so it is not going to happen rofl rofl rofl
And you are also a huge bag of ****s. Get the hell off my forum. Stupid smiley using douchebag stereotype. WE'LL criticize ourselves thank you very much. We don't need your help in that area. Go back to farting in the general direction of English knnnnnnnnighits.
ElHombre
05-26-2005, 10:32 PM
In WW II Sauerkraut was called Liberty Cabage and Hamurgers were known as Liberty Steaks.
at least those terms were used against a country which we were actually at war against.
back in WW1 there was also a habit of kicking little weiner dogs to show how much they hated the germans. funny how that kind of person wouldn't think of kicking a german shepard.
Kilgor
05-26-2005, 10:37 PM
Just call the things chips and be done with it
Atlantic Friend
05-27-2005, 05:31 AM
French wh*re or hysteric obese American b*tch ?
The choice is easy :lol: :lol:
It is definitely nice to see that some Americans can realize how low they can go sometimes (...ok, often).
I really like the idea "Lying Bastard Bush Fries" but americans are currently standing on their arrogance and dirty patriotism so it is not going to happen rofl rofl rofl
And you are also a huge bag of ****s. Get the hell off my forum. Stupid smiley using douchebag stereotype. WE'LL criticize ourselves thank you very much. We don't need your help in that area. Go back to farting in the general direction of English knnnnnnnnighits.
Wow. Looks like patriotism has fallen in the gutter from one side of the Atlantic Ocean to the other.
Damian, if name-calling and pettiness is the best your generation has to offer to its country, then you should delve in some history book to see what American patriotism was about before allowing it to degenerate into this 9th-grade behavior. :cantbeli:
Zztip, that goes for you too. Yours was a stupid, petty and childish comment if I ever read one and what makes it even less palatable is knowing it comes from my side of the Big Pond. I'm pretty sure I don't want MY flag, nation and culture to be "defended" by professional mud-slingers. :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
Was Congressman Jones' idea stupid ? Heck, yes, it was. That he claims he had this idea while being guided by God's hand (and a constituent) should severely offend anyone, from the hardcore secular to the deeply religious, not to mention the handy scapegoat constituents. But Jones now admits it was stupid, and frankly that was something he didn't really have to do, he could have stayed mum on that topic as politicians do so often.
So, me, and providing this story is true, I consider he owned up and he's clean in my books. There's just this little Monty Python streak in me that regrets he didn't go as far as proposing to remove the very name of "France" from every US World Atlas and replace it with "Freedomia", or maybe even erase the country from all maps. Hell, if you want to protect gastronomy from the eeevil backstabbing weaselly cheese eating cowardly Frogs, then why don't extend the same courtesy to Geography ?
Atlantic Friend
05-27-2005, 05:34 AM
In WW II Sauerkraut was called Liberty Cabage and Hamurgers were known as Liberty Steaks.
at least those terms were used against a country which we were actually at war against.
back in WW1 there was also a habit of kicking little weiner dogs to show how much they hated the germans. funny how that kind of person wouldn't think of kicking a german shepard.
Now that I think of it, maybe that explains why my idea of organizing an anti-Soviet "Kick a Bear day" didn't work all that well... :lol:
Prometheus
05-27-2005, 05:48 AM
Seriously, how f*cking petty is that, renaming food? Its the kind of thing Id expect from kids... :roll:
It's exactely the thing the world expect from the leaders of the USA. Childish propaganda.
usbabmc
05-27-2005, 10:51 AM
Seriously, how f*cking petty is that, renaming food? Its the kind of thing Id expect from kids... :roll:
It's exactely the thing the world expect from the leaders of the USA. Childish propaganda.
Actually I like the name French Fries. After all they are greasy, unhealthy little bastards.
Atlantic Friend
05-27-2005, 11:17 AM
Actually I like the name French Fries. After all they are greasy, unhealthy little bastards.
...which Americans (among other people) just crave and long for...
Werewolf01
05-27-2005, 02:55 PM
French wh*re or hysteric obese American b*tch ?
The choice is easy :lol: :lol:
It is definitely nice to see that some Americans can realize how low they can go sometimes (...ok, often).
I really like the idea "Lying Bastard Bush Fries" but americans are currently standing on their arrogance and dirty patriotism so it is not going to happen rofl rofl rofl
Tell me , is all that stupidity painful?
Werewolf01
05-27-2005, 02:57 PM
Seriously, how f*cking petty is that, renaming food? Its the kind of thing Id expect from kids... :roll:
It's exactely the thing the world expect from the leaders of the USA. Childish propaganda.
Go steal fire @sshole. It must be diffcult trying to figure out how many Turks you should be calling grandad.
DE_Six
05-27-2005, 03:12 PM
I was in a restaurant in New York a while ago and my friends dared me to order 'freedom fries'.
The waiter went "Whaaa...?" and just started laughing.
I've been in three states since this memo circulated, and I've yet to see a restaurant menu selling freedom fries. :roll:
Werewolf01
05-27-2005, 03:18 PM
I was in a restaurant in New York a while ago and my friends dared me to order 'freedom fries'.
The waiter went "Whaaa...?" and just started laughing.
I've been in three states since this memo circulated, and I've yet to see a restaurant menu selling freedom fries. :roll:
Nor have I. Most of us weredumbfounded with this lstupidity, but I will be damaned if I am going to be labled in the same category as somebody who should be making baskets.
California Joe
05-27-2005, 03:22 PM
In WW II Sauerkraut was called Liberty Cabage and Hamurgers were known as Liberty Steaks.
at least those terms were used against a country which we were actually at war against.
back in WW1 there was also a habit of kicking little weiner dogs to show how much they hated the germans. funny how that kind of person wouldn't think of kicking a german shepard.
Now that I think of it, maybe that explains why my idea of organizing an anti-Soviet "Kick a Bear day" didn't work all that well... :lol:
See, now THAT was funny.
BlackRain
05-27-2005, 06:02 PM
I always thought freedom fries was kinda retarted anyway.
"Garlic smelling - hairy" fries was taken already so we went with Freedom Fries. :lol:
Oddbod
05-27-2005, 07:55 PM
They're CHIPS you dumbo's :P
What OUr cousins over the Pond call "chips" are Crisps.
Both the Belgians & the Swiss are weird, as they serve CHIPS with Mayonnaise :cantbeli:
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