View Full Version : Need Chechen war footage
RealUltimatePower
12-20-2003, 06:02 PM
If anyone has some footage from the conflict in Chechneya could you post it here. Doing a project for school and it would be greatly appreciated.
George W. Bush
12-20-2003, 06:12 PM
I have hours of video taken by Russians troops in Chechnya. Mostly from zachistkas or clean-up operations. But I doubt your teacher wants to see people getting shot and killed.
Groove
12-20-2003, 07:10 PM
im interested in them wangchung. any chance to get them from you ?
Greetings
Groove
Here is some videos( 7 from the top, especially) that they show us in training classes. http://www.*********.com/chechenya.html
UkrainianSpetsnaz
12-20-2003, 07:34 PM
I truly hope that every **** sucking chechen dies, I hope their eyes are gauged out, and cocks cut off and their toes and fingers one by one before shooting them in the head. The only good chechen is a dead chechen.
Saranof
12-20-2003, 07:35 PM
I truly hope that every **** sucking chechen dies, I hope their eyes are gauged out, and cocks cut off and their toes and fingers one by one before shooting them in the head. The only good chechen is a dead chechen.
Oh..
Groove
12-20-2003, 07:54 PM
i dont like this chechyen made videos. especially this freakin "allah u akbar" all the time when they kill some russians or down some helicopter.
at least they use russian equipment to kill russians and not "allahs" weapons (a stone? or some kind of).
just my opinion
Groove
i dont like this chechyen made videos. especially this freakin "allah u akbar" all the time when they kill some russians or down some helicopter.
just my opinion
Groove
thats what got to me too
Jack Mehoff
12-20-2003, 09:07 PM
what is the deal with Chechens executed Russian soldiers? :|
Operation Ivy
12-20-2003, 09:21 PM
Chechens are ugly :-*$
Macs.
12-20-2003, 09:58 PM
Russia and chechya are doing this **** serval years now, but no one cares...
Where is the U.N. ? Where are all the pacifists ? Protesting against the war in Iraq ? :roll:
what is the deal with Chechens executed Russian soldiers?
Well, it's a disgusting war. I heared a story about a chechyan girl (9 Year old) wich was raped-to-death by 15 Russian soldiers.
"Welcome to Crozny"
http://www.lurchmag.com/grozny-ap.jpg
UkrainianSpetsnaz
12-20-2003, 10:27 PM
AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Awesome Signature MACS!!
Ngati Tumatauenga
12-20-2003, 10:31 PM
what is the deal with Chechens executed Russian soldiers?
Read 16 OBr SpN's posts where he talks about captured chechens being torn apart between two BTR's, women snipers having grenades detonated in their mouths, prisoners thrown out of helo's, etc.
Each side seems intent on outdoing the other atrocity-wise. They're as bad as each other, but of course there is ALWAYS a justification and we in the west could NEVER possibly understand.
Does anyone, preferably someone un-biased, know the entire history of the Russia/Chechnya situation?, I've read about Stalin deporting the entire chechen population to siberia during WW2 and the resulting death from disease but not much else.
Facts would be welcome, leftist liberal or ultra-nationalistic bleating would'nt.
usa320
12-20-2003, 11:24 PM
Ya see the truth is half of these "chechens" arent "chechens" at all, but "Saudis", "Yemenis", "Afghanis" and "Pakistanis".
Under the 20th Century Section:
"Execution of Russian soldier. We recommend to watch the Picture first as a warning. The video is too strong."
I have seen that video before... and it is the worst thing I have ever seen. It gives me chills when I think about it. :(
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-21-2003, 01:42 AM
Ya see the truth is half of these "chechens" arent "chechens" at all, but "Saudis", "Yemenis", "Afghanis" and "Pakistanis".
Yup just like some of the people attacking American soldiers are "Saudi, Syrian, Iraqi, Pakistani and possibly Afghani and Iranian".
So yea if people hate Russians they go to Chechnya to fight, If they hate Americans they can go to Iraq to fight.
Jack Mehoff
12-21-2003, 02:22 AM
Ya see the truth is half of these "chechens" arent "chechens" at all, but "Saudis", "Yemenis", "Afghanis" and "Pakistanis".
Yup just like some of the people attacking American soldiers are "Saudi, Syrian, Iraqi, Pakistani and possibly Afghani and Iranian".
So yea if people hate Russians they go to Chechnya to fight, If they hate Americans they can go to Iraq to fight.
That's why they don't hesitate to blow up other Iraqis, mosques, etc. ;)
ShotOver
12-21-2003, 03:34 AM
I could post a link of a Chechnyan propaganda website, filled with videos of Russians being killed, and ambushed.
But err.. i have morals.
16 OBr SpN
12-21-2003, 05:14 AM
We've asked MANY times for permission to create a website with our operations against chechen terrorists. Unfortunately, our bosses insist on secrecy issue! :(
One of our guys actually gave a tape to a local TV station, but GRU found that out , and they got that whole program off the air, along with the tape. The guy was fired as result of that. :(
There are several hundreds of videos of our operations against the chechens.
wreck
12-21-2003, 06:53 AM
We've asked MANY times for permission to create a website with our operations against chechen terrorists. Unfortunately, our bosses insist on secrecy issue! :(
One of our guys actually gave a tape to a local TV station, but GRU found that out , and they got that whole program off the air, along with the tape. The guy was fired as result of that. :(
There are several hundreds of videos of our operations against the chechens.
Just yesterday I was thinking that it would be unbeliavable just to get a glimpse on those videos. Too bad there's now way :|
Groove
12-21-2003, 07:02 AM
@ 16 OBr SpN
Well it would be a good thing to see some russian footage from chechnya. As i already mentioned, i cant hear this "allah u akbar" anymore.
Groove
16 OBr SpN
12-21-2003, 07:42 AM
@ 16 OBr SpN
Well it would be a good thing to see some russian footage from chechnya. As i already mentioned, i cant hear this "allah u akbar" anymore.
Groove
Then you would love to hear good Russian cursing! And of course, the best moment, finishing off the survivors! ;)
You should see how those "warriors of Allah" cry like babies! :lol:
Some of them even say "Long live Russia!" when a gun is pointed right at their balls! :lol:
Regards,
16 OBr SpN
Marmot1
12-21-2003, 08:24 AM
im interested in them wangchung. any chance to get them from you ?
Greetings
Groove
http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/video/
some more,whole website is run by chechens...
there is also history of chechenia.... do you know that to 12th century they were christians....and there is also info about 1848 Shamill uprising...
oldsoak
12-21-2003, 09:27 AM
I'm pretty interested in the war from the Russian point of view. I get told how brutal and barbaric the Russians are etc etc and I want to hear from the Russian side, because I'm quite sure the chechen "freedom fighters" arent all little angels waiting to be released from the clutches of an evil empire. Any information/pointers from the Russian side gratefully recieved
rgds
Saranof
12-21-2003, 09:37 AM
You should see how those "warriors of Allah" cry like babies! :lol:
Some of them even say "Long live Russia!" when a gun is pointed right at their balls! :lol:
Regards,
16 OBr SpN
Bit like Saving Private Ryan you mean?
In this case, Saving private parts...
Javehn
12-21-2003, 09:57 AM
Holly smoking **** ...Damnit those movies .
Isn't Hankala airport is base for Russian command in Chechnya ? How those bastards managed to hit choper next to it then ??
Groove
12-21-2003, 10:27 AM
@ 16 OBr SpN
At least im a slavian too - so i like the slavian curses :) As i mentioned maybe you can post some videos here - would be nice.
Groove
Macs.
12-21-2003, 11:21 AM
AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Awesome Signature MACS!!
It's the truth... :D
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-21-2003, 04:44 PM
Seeing all these videos of these chechens "attacks" are always well edited and always show them winning (which i highly doubt is true majority of the time). I do agree with groove...but 16 OBr SpN probably would land himself in a world of **** by showing us some of those movies.
One question fo OBr, did you guys catch any of these "cameramen"?
16 OBr SpN
12-21-2003, 06:24 PM
Read 16 OBr SpN's posts where he talks about captured chechens being torn apart between two BTR's, women snipers having grenades detonated in their mouths, prisoners thrown out of helo's, etc.
If you read those posts again, you will notice that in all those cases I was talking about foreign mercenaries. And you know, even the most democratic western nations admit, that a foreign mercenary doesn't have a POW status. In chechnya foreignors die the most painful death possible, and that's just a signal to others. What's wrong with that??
While chechens torture those helpless guys, who are actually soldiers, and therefore have a POW status.
Does anyone, preferably someone un-biased, know the entire history of the Russia/Chechnya situation?, I've read about Stalin deporting the entire chechen population to siberia during WW2 and the resulting death from disease but not much else.
Chechens fully deserved what happened to them. They were gladly assisting Germans in any way possible. Germans created a platoon consisting strictly from chechens, to carry out sabotage missions. Khruschev should have kept them in Siberia, instead of letting them move back. In that context, Stalin was the greatest man, because he was from Caucasus and knew the mentality of chechens.
A chechen does not understand a good language, he understands only a language of a gun pointed at his head.
Regards,
16 OBr SpN
16 OBr SpN
12-21-2003, 07:08 PM
Seeing all these videos of these chechens "attacks" are always well edited and always show them winning (which i highly doubt is true majority of the time). I do agree with groove...but 16 OBr SpN probably would land himself in a world of **** by showing us some of those movies.
One question fo OBr, did you guys catch any of these "cameramen"?
Yes, we caught many of them, even before they could start filming.
Like I said, those attacks they film are very rare success stories. They set up explosives at night, but the night time is the time when most of the recon groups are out hunting after them.
I would say 70% of our video footage is taken during the night. Many of them are ambushes.
There is a video footage of our guys raiding a chechen base in the forest. They quitely take out a patrol, then move in. Two guys with machineguns enter the room, where 12 chechen scums are asleep. They shoot them in a point-blank range. Result - 14 scumbags dead; 0 losses. :D
In the end you hear a funny conversation between them while they are searching the documents in dead chechens pockets. They are talking about the the character in popular Brazilian soap opera, which is aired on our TV:
- Do you think she's hot?
- No I like her cousin better.
- But she has funny looking legs!
- Wipe your eyes! Anyway, if I had 1 million dollars, I would go to Brazil, buy myself a nice suit, and a bouqet of roses; go to her house and go out with her.
rofl rofl
Regards,
16 OBr SpN
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-21-2003, 09:48 PM
Thats good man, besides I used the term "Cameraman" loosely because if you do watch some of the video's the brightness setting is jacked all the way up making it look like theres snow on the ground. :cantbeli:
Next thing the Russians should take out is the people that play that horrible music, like do people on that side of the world listen to that stuff?. Its horrid and done at a tone that almost makes me vomit, it sounds like the guys nuts are in a vice.....
Another thing I noticed on a serious note majority of the bombs seemed to be artillery shells rigged up to some sort of cell phone device. Can you expand any on this OBr? You always here some sort of cell phone dialing like they have another phone rigged up as a trigger to set off the bombs.
Do you guys have that system to "jam" cell phones? Im not sure what its called but I read in another article on this site that it's been used effectively.
Kingpin
12-22-2003, 01:46 AM
Holly smoking **** ...Damnit those movies .
Isn't Hankala airport is base for Russian command in Chechnya ? How those bastards managed to hit choper next to it then ??
Some lazy idiots didn't demolished abandoned buildings near base.
Other lazy idiots ordered to helos use only one approach route to base.
Actually helicopter made controlled landing. Unfortunately it hit the ground by its back and backdoors were blocked by this impact. So many people coludn't get out and died in fire. If doors could be opened there was low number of casualties.
soldierandy
12-22-2003, 03:10 AM
so is it possible at all to find any footage taken by russian forces?
don't these choppers have side doors too?
Kingpin
12-22-2003, 03:58 AM
so is it possible at all to find any footage taken by russian forces?
don't these choppers have side doors too?
Yes but rather small. 127 man didn't have time to escape all through them
Kingpin
12-22-2003, 04:28 AM
Current events near Chechnya in news (video):
Today
http://www-download.1tv.ru/video/2003_12/2012031202.asf
17 december
http://www-download.1tv.ru/video/2003_12/1712031501.asf
Groove
12-22-2003, 08:20 AM
I often saw pics where chechen "soldiers" hided in some kind of woods. Didnt the russians use thermal satellite imagery or at least som kind of air recon to bomb this camps ?
Sometimes i think that there are some very rich generals in russia who just want to get richer while this poor conscripts die down there :(
Groove
Kingpin
12-22-2003, 09:00 AM
I often saw pics where chechen "soldiers" hided in some kind of woods. Didnt the russians use thermal satellite imagery or at least som kind of air recon to bomb this camps ?
Sometimes i think that there are some very rich generals in russia who just want to get richer while this poor conscripts die down there :(
Groove
About generals we can all agreewith you (at least sometimes)
As for IR devices - yes i've seen them on some Mi-8 involved in current operations - latest upgrade program for this helo.
Russian Texan
12-22-2003, 01:04 PM
I often saw pics where chechen "soldiers" hided in some kind of woods. Didnt the russians use thermal satellite imagery or at least som kind of air recon to bomb this camps ?
Sometimes i think that there are some very rich generals in russia who just want to get richer while this poor conscripts die down there :(
Groove
That is somewhat accurate. Ask 16 OBrSpN, he can explain.
Russian Texan
12-22-2003, 01:07 PM
The Mi 26 you are talking about, after catching on fire it fell on the mine field next to the airbase.
I hope you all know why the chechens film their attrocities. These "soldiers of god" send these tapes to bin-laden type asshats to show that they are killing infidels, in return they get paid. So the worse the crap they show, the more money they get. I have heard of some abuses by Russian soldiers, but nothing compared to the crap these chechen animals do. Russian soldiers have never, to my knowledge, skinned anyone alive or anything like that. I even have a tape of a Russian amnesty where any chechen who is tired of fighting can turn himself in and with his arms, recieve medical treatment, and walk away. It really made me think. This was an MBD tape, and not for distribution, so it wasn't just propaganda. Of course, I doubt this amnesty was extended to foreign fighters. But now that I think of it, I just recently heard an interview with a Turkish idiot that had been captured fighting in Russia and all the Russians did was deport him. He has tried several times to get back via Georgia but each time he is arrested and deported. I was very surprised he wasn't summarily "deported" straight to Allah. I have seen the way chechen animals deal with kontraktniki and it isn't nice.
Anyway, food for thought.
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-22-2003, 06:13 PM
Ya I'm sure when Allah finds out they've been skinning people hes going to break his foot off in there ass.
That Turkish dude is lucky he is still breathing...keep up with the good posts everyone. woot
Groove
12-22-2003, 06:16 PM
This war will last forever as long as russian generals sells weapons to chechen "army".
Just my opinion.
I would just plain everything with some bulldozers, them build a big WalMartowski and some kind of DisneyWorld and everything would be ok down there...
Groove
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-22-2003, 07:03 PM
Ya I vote to turn chechnya into one big ass airsoft field. woot
koster
12-22-2003, 07:05 PM
That's somethig our Army could've done even back in '95, if our Generals would've given an order...
The whole chechnya could've been leveled in a week.
Vance
12-22-2003, 07:06 PM
It still can be.
koster
12-22-2003, 07:31 PM
yeah, sure it can be (I doubt it will happen though), I was just saying that we could've taken care of it long time ago.
"I often saw pics where chechen "soldiers" hided in some kind of woods. Didnt the russians use thermal satellite imagery or at least som kind of air recon to bomb this camps ?"
Thermal imaging satellites are not that great for seeing through forests. Even the powerful expensive American satellites couldn't see through trees in Kosovo, and I doubt the Chechen rebels would oblige the Russians by moving their bases out into the open in perhaps a nice desert environment.
From space a group of men and a group of sheep look pretty similar on a thermal image.
The upgrade program for the Hips and Hinds looks very good however... being able to fight effectively at night would greatly reduce their losses and improve their ability to intercept transport hubs and links of the enemy... :-)
The Upgrade for the Hind includes a laser rangefinder to greatly improve accuracy at longer ranges... it also includes making it lighter and stronger and replacing the engines with more powerful units. (The chin turret with the 4 barrel 50 cal gatling is replaced by a twin 23mm cannon in a turret, and the main rotor and tail rotor and short wings are replaced by those developed for the Havoc (Mi-28). The rotors are lighter, stronger, generate more lift and allow much better manouverability. (In theory with the new rotor the Hind should be able to be looped and rolled).
Under the 20th Century Section:
"Execution of Russian soldier. We recommend to watch the Picture first as a warning. The video is too strong."
I have seen that video before... and it is the worst thing I have ever seen. It gives me chills when I think about it. :(
agreed, f*ckin animals... actually, strike that, calling them animals is to good for them. its ironic that Russians and Americans were rivals for so many years, and now, we're fighting the same bastards. i have to admit, my father always had a mistrust, even hatred, for Russians (Grandpa was from Poland) i'm ashamed to admit that it rubbed off on me too. but now, just by seeing what these jihad "warriors" do to them, i cant help but feel enraged. i have a new respect for the Russian soldier and the danger he faces...
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-23-2003, 02:13 AM
Ya theres war were the fighting with your enemy isnt personal then theres the chechnya conflict were both sides would like to see eachother wiped from the face of the planet.
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