No money for Gaza fence

[Moledet]

Planned fence was designed to serve as additional obstacle aimed at preventing terrorists from infiltrating Israel following pullout. IDF says no funds for barrier, plans to boost patrols instead
By Itzik Saban



GAZA – Southern Israel residents have yet another cause for concern.


The IDF says it will not build a security fence around the Gaza Strip in addition to the existing fence due to budgetary constraints.

Plans for another fence were formulated by army officials immediately following the approval of the disengagement plan. The new barrier was to offer an extra obstacle aimed at preventing terrorists from infiltrating Israel once the pullout is completed.


The current fence surrounds the Gaza Strip but in recent months dozens of Palestinians were able to cross it en route to Israel, mostly in a bid to secure employment.


The new fence was designed to be built on Israeli territory in its entirety and would have required the government to compensate Israeli farmers whose land would have been expropriated in the framework of the project.


However, once officials realized the total cost of building the fence and offering a compensation package could skyrocket to NIS 100-200 million (approximately USD 22-44 million,) the army decided to forego the plan.


‘We deserve security’


Meanwhile, a senior IDF officer vowed to boost security around Gaza, possibly by paving a new road around the existing fence and boosting patrols in the area.


Yet despite the army reassurances, local residents are not feeling secure. The decision is tantamount to abandoning area residents, Shaar Hanegev Council Head Alon Shuster said.


“We deserve security,” he said. “It’s hard to avoid the feeling this is an attempt to lower the amount of compensation farmers deserve.”


The IDF Spokesperson’s Office confirmed the army is reconsidering the plan to build an extra fence and may premise post-pullout security operations in the area on the existing “smart fence,” which is backed by advanced technological means.


S'13 you gonna eat your hat after the pullout.

[S'13]

Planned fence was designed to serve as additional obstacle aimed at preventing terrorists from infiltrating Israel following pullout. IDF says no funds for barrier, plans to boost patrols instead
By Itzik Saban



GAZA – Southern Israel residents have yet another cause for concern.


The IDF says it will not build a security fence around the Gaza Strip in addition to the existing fence due to budgetary constraints.

Plans for another fence were formulated by army officials immediately following the approval of the disengagement plan. The new barrier was to offer an extra obstacle aimed at preventing terrorists from infiltrating Israel once the pullout is completed.


The current fence surrounds the Gaza Strip but in recent months dozens of Palestinians were able to cross it en route to Israel, mostly in a bid to secure employment.


The new fence was designed to be built on Israeli territory in its entirety and would have required the government to compensate Israeli farmers whose land would have been expropriated in the framework of the project.


However, once officials realized the total cost of building the fence and offering a compensation package could skyrocket to NIS 100-200 million (approximately USD 22-44 million,) the army decided to forego the plan.


‘We deserve security’


Meanwhile, a senior IDF officer vowed to boost security around Gaza, possibly by paving a new road around the existing fence and boosting patrols in the area.


Yet despite the army reassurances, local residents are not feeling secure. The decision is tantamount to abandoning area residents, Shaar Hanegev Council Head Alon Shuster said.


“We deserve security,” he said. “It’s hard to avoid the feeling this is an attempt to lower the amount of compensation farmers deserve.”


The IDF Spokesperson’s Office confirmed the army is reconsidering the plan to build an extra fence and may premise post-pullout security operations in the area on the existing “smart fence,” which is backed by advanced technological means.


S'13 you gonna eat your hat after the pullout.

I doubt it... I'd rather have our soldiers protect the Green Line than to have them protect Israel civilians living in a disputed area populated by over a million Arabs.

P.S
I am happy to see that you have finally come to terms with the fact that the Disengagement Plan is going to be carried out.

[Moledet]

Planned fence was designed to serve as additional obstacle aimed at preventing terrorists from infiltrating Israel following pullout. IDF says no funds for barrier, plans to boost patrols instead
By Itzik Saban



GAZA – Southern Israel residents have yet another cause for concern.


The IDF says it will not build a security fence around the Gaza Strip in addition to the existing fence due to budgetary constraints.

Plans for another fence were formulated by army officials immediately following the approval of the disengagement plan. The new barrier was to offer an extra obstacle aimed at preventing terrorists from infiltrating Israel once the pullout is completed.


The current fence surrounds the Gaza Strip but in recent months dozens of Palestinians were able to cross it en route to Israel, mostly in a bid to secure employment.


The new fence was designed to be built on Israeli territory in its entirety and would have required the government to compensate Israeli farmers whose land would have been expropriated in the framework of the project.


However, once officials realized the total cost of building the fence and offering a compensation package could skyrocket to NIS 100-200 million (approximately USD 22-44 million,) the army decided to forego the plan.


‘We deserve security’


Meanwhile, a senior IDF officer vowed to boost security around Gaza, possibly by paving a new road around the existing fence and boosting patrols in the area.


Yet despite the army reassurances, local residents are not feeling secure. The decision is tantamount to abandoning area residents, Shaar Hanegev Council Head Alon Shuster said.


“We deserve security,” he said. “It’s hard to avoid the feeling this is an attempt to lower the amount of compensation farmers deserve.”


The IDF Spokesperson’s Office confirmed the army is reconsidering the plan to build an extra fence and may premise post-pullout security operations in the area on the existing “smart fence,” which is backed by advanced technological means.


S'13 you gonna eat your hat after the pullout.

I doubt it... I'd rather have our soldiers protect the Green Line than to have them protect Israel civilians living in a disputed area populated by over a million Arabs.

P.S
I am happy to see that you have finally come to terms with the fact that the Disengagement Plan is going to be carried out.
Well, this time they'll defend it without any outposts or an electronic fence, it'll be very hard to stop terrorists, because they won't control the area (unlike the west bank after defensive shield) and they will have no barrier that can stop terrorists. I guess the southern area will feel it the most.
In a year or even less I bet I'll see you writing here in the forum that we should re-enter Gaza strip.

As for the PS, I had no doubt that the IDF is going to flee after the plan passed in the Knesset (in an ilegal vote, but let's leave that).

[S'13]

Well, this time they'll defend it without any outposts or an electronic fence, it'll be very hard to stop terrorists, because they won't control the area (unlike the west bank after defensive shield) and they will have no barrier that can stop terrorists. I guess the southern area will feel it the most.


Just a few points...

There is already a fence serounding the Gaza Strip and in order to strengthen that line the IDF is going to have more patrols, place more outposts, place more motion detectors and so on.
You don't need a second fence in order to improve the abilities of the one that already exists.

What's to stop the IDF from carrying out operations inside the Gaza Strip after the Disengagement Plan if the situation will demand this? The IDF doesn't rely on the seattlments in order to carry out such operations.


I had no doubt that the IDF is going to flee after the plan passed in the Knesset

I see the Hamas propaganda has started to affect you...

rofl

[Moledet]

Well, this time they'll defend it without any outposts or an electronic fence, it'll be very hard to stop terrorists, because they won't control the area (unlike the west bank after defensive shield) and they will have no barrier that can stop terrorists. I guess the southern area will feel it the most.


Just a few points...

There is already a fence serounding the Gaza Strip and in order to strengthen that line the IDF is going to have more patrols, place more outposts, place more motion detectors and so on.
You don't need a second fence in order to improve the abilities of the one that already exists.

What's to stop the IDF from carrying out operations inside the Gaza Strip after the Disengagement Plan if the situation will demand this? The IDF doesn't rely on the seattlments in order to carry out such operations.


I had no doubt that the IDF is going to flee after the plan passed in the Knesset

I see the Hamas propaganda has started to affect you...

rofl
There's no fence around Gaza strip, there's a fence around the Palestinian towns, but after the pullout they'll be able to be anywhere in the stip so that fence will be irrelevant.
The IDF will have a much harder fight, it won't be able to rally and prepare its tanks and soldiers and then to attack a small town, it'll need to rally out of the strip and then to attack a much larger terrain. The attacks will no longer come just inside the towns they'll come from all around the convoyes that will head to the towns. Imagine a much larger Philadelphi with no outposts and a lot of high dunes that you can hide in.

I don't think that is propoganda, you know that IDF is leaving under fire and it doesn't get anything in return, that is called fleeing

[S'13]

There's no fence around Gaza strip, there's a fence around the Palestinian towns

Moledet... sometimes you really do manage to surprise me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Gaza_Strip_barrier


The IDF will have a much harder fight, it won't be able to rally and prepare its tanks and soldiers and then to attack a small town, it'll need to rally out of the strip and then to attack a much larger terrain

I don't see why the IDF won't be able to do the same (create enclaves within the G.S in case of an operation) after the pullout.


The attacks will no longer come just inside the towns they'll come from all around the convoyes that will head to the towns. Imagine a much larger Philadelphi with no outposts and a lot of high dunes that you can hide in.

Sorry but I didn't really understand what you were trying to say... are you talking about a situation in which IDF vehicles enter the Gaza Strip?


you know that IDF is leaving under fire and it doesn't get anything in return, that is called fleeing

How could it be fleeing if this whole thing has been planned for over two years now?

The main point of the pollout isn't getting the IDF out of that area but getting out the Israeli civilians who are living there. If the IDF will need to go back in it will do so, and please don't bring up Lebanon since it's a stupaid analogy.

[PigSnake]

i see where both of you are coming from, but israel does have an airforce....i imagine that after the pullout, major operations will come from the air rather than land, no?

i also read somewhere that the idf/iaf was perfecting its capabilities at making surgical airstrikes, in order to avoid collateral damage.....