Today's Pic's - Dec. 22

[He219]

How about some optics?
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U.S soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 22nd Regiment, (1-22) 4th Infantry Division, patrol outside Tikrit's city hall, Iraq, Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)


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US soldier of the military police, James Hawkins, from Texas, uses his radio as he stands atop his humvee during his daily patrol in Tikrit, Iraq, Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

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A U.S soldier of the 1st Battalion, 22nd Regiment, (1-22) of the 4th Infantry Division talks to Iraqi Civil defense corps soldiers, the new Iraqi army, in Tikrit, Iraq, Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

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U.S soldier Micheal Brasatta, from Oregon, of 1st Battalion, 22nd Regiment, (1-22) of the 4th Infantry Division, watches the road during a daily patrol in Tikrit, Iraq, Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

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A U.S soldier of 1st Battalion, 22nd Regiment, (1-22) of the 4th Infantry Division, and an Iraqi man greet each other during a daily patrol in Tikrit, Iraq, Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

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The U.S. Army miltary police collects old Iraqi coins at a bank in the town of Ba'qubah Iraq Monday Dec. 22, 2003. Old Iraqi money portraying former leader Saddam Hussein is planned to be replaced by mid January. (AP Photo/Hadi Mizban)

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Stryker Brigade Soldiers form a perimeter during a patrol in Samarra, Iraq. The Soldiers are assigned to the 2nd Infantry Division's Company B, 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment (Stryker Brigade Combat Team). The unit was the first of its type to see combat, repelling a complex ambush in Samarra and defeating the enemy attackers. U.S. Army photo by Spc. Clinton Tarzia.

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Trying to find the story on this Patriot Battery Photo...

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An Iraqi police man (L) and a US soldier man a checkpoint in northern Baghdad. An oil pumping station and pipelines were attacked in Iraq (news - web sites) as the US top military commander revealed that information gleaned with the capture of ex-president Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) resulted in hundreds of arrests(AFP/Ahmad Al-Rubaye)

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Pipelines carrying crude oil to refineries in central Iraq were attacked, exacerbating the fuel shortage facing ordinary Iraqis, as US troops intensified a crackdown on anti-American guerrillas across the country. (Chris Hondros/***** Images)

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A U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division (Task Force Ironhorse) soldier looks at an Iraqi general's sword during night raid on a house in the town of Baquba in central Iraq (news - web sites), December 22, 2003. U.S. troops conducted raids in Baquba targeting a former Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) intelligence service general, who they believe is coordinating attacks against coalition forces in the area. *******/Shamil Zhumatov

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Captain Warner of the 1-22 Battalion of the U.S. Fourth Infantry Division smiles as he points at a Christmas card soldiers have made featuring the face of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) manipulated to look like the head of Santa Claus, December 22, 2003. A heavily bearded Saddam was captured by U.S. forces near his home town of Tikrit on the previous Saturday. *******/ Zohra Bensemra

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A photo montage Christmas greeting made by members of the 1-22 Battalion of the U.S. Fourth Infantry Division, featuring the face of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) manipulated to look like the head of Santa Claus, is posted on the wall of army barracks in Tikrit, Iraq (news - web sites) December 22, 2003. A heavily bearded Saddam was captured by U.S. forces near his home town of Tikrit on the previous Saturday. *******/Zohra Bensemra



Elsewhere...

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Sasa Pejakovic,left, and Zeljko Tojaga, former members of the secret service elite "Red Berets" sit with jail security officers at the start of trial of 36 suspected gangsters and police officers charged with the assassination of prime minister Zoran Djindjic, Monday Dec. 22, 2003 in Belgrade, Serbia. Jovanovic is accused of firing the bullets that killed Serbia's prime minister Zoran Djindjic and wounded his bodyguard on March 12, 2003. (AP Photo/Srdjan Ilic)

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Jail security officers surround Zvezdan Jovanovic, center, a former deputy commander of the secret service selite "Red Berets" at the start of trial of 36 suspected gangsters and police officers charged with the assassination of prime minister Zoran Djindjic, Monday Dec. 22, 2003 in Belgrade, Serbia. Jovanovic is accused of firing the bullets that killed Serbia's prime minister Zoran Djindjic and wounded his bodyguard on March 12 2003. (AP Photo/Srdjan Ilic)

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Milorad Lukovic - "Legija" is seen in this 1995 file photo. Lukovic, former commander of Special Units Operations of Serbia's secret service, is the prime suspect in the trial of 36 people charged in relation to the assassination of Zoran Djindjic, Serbia's popular, pro-Western prime minister, who was gunned down on March 12, 2003. (AP Photo / File)

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The 200 acre patch of Belleau Wood was officially renamed "Wood of the Marine Brigade" on June 30, 1918, to commemorate the tenacious battle U.S. Marines fought to drive the entrenched Germans from the woods.


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Lagin's private collection contains uniforms worn by U.S., French and German forces. The uniforms are complemented with vintage accessories including weapons and equipment used during the war.


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An unmistakeable sight in the Chateau-Thierry area is the sight of Lagin's "Semper Fi" sticker on the back of his vehicle.

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Lagin stands next to a German Minnenwefer, a trench mortar knicknamed the "Pig Hurler." The mortar had a 300 meter range and delivered both high explosive and gas-filled rounds whiche emitted a pig-squeelling noise when raining down on targets.

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Gilles Lagin shows MGySgt. Joe Garcia, MarForEur Operations Chief, the damage to an upper receiver of a model 1903 Springfield rifle used by Marines. The rifle received fragmentation damage rendering it inoperable.


Indonesia:

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Indonesian army helicopters fly over troops during a ceremony marking the 58th anniversary of the Indonesian army in Jakarta on December 22, 2003. The Indonesian armed forces are currently engaged in operations to crush separatist rebels in Aceh province on the northern tip of Sumatra. *******/Beawiharta


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FNC shortie?
Indonesian soldiers from the newly formed elite Raiders parade during a ceremony marking the 58th anniversary of the Indonesian army in Jakarta on December 22, 2003. The Indonesian armed forces are currently engaged in operations to crush separatist rebels in Aceh province on the northern tip of Sumatra. *******/Beawiharta


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Country Club Hills, Illinois public works employee Chuck McCarthy changes the town's Homeland Security Advisory System from yellow (elevated significant risk) to orange (high risk) December 21, 2003. Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge made the announcement earlier in the day regarding the nation's terror alert status. *******/Frank Polich

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The United States today raised its terror alert status to the second-highest level, warning of a high risk that extremists could try to strike near-term on a scale that could "rival or exceed" September 11, 2001.US Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, announcing the change, said reports indicated extremists were still interested in using aircraft for attacks(***** Images)

[ShotOver]

Good photos, Great Job :D


I wouldnt want to be in the indo Military, after what that helicopter crew did to those SF troops... :roll:

[usa320]

Never seen those "Homeland Security Alert Flags" before...

[96B]

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Its a great reflex sight for CQB...

[He219]

Gotta love the versatility of the M16. 20" H-Bar with huge optics and tele-stock. Nice!


Never seen those "Homeland Security Alert Flags" before...
It's a municipal thing...

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Romanian Col. Dan Grecu, center, and Col. Catalin Marius Tamacop, right, wait in a chow line during a Nordic Christmas celebration hosted by coalition members from Norway, Finland, Sweden and Denmark, Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2003, at U.S. Central Command at MacDill Air Force Base, in Tampa, Fla. Some 500 coalition and U.S. soldiers enjoyed a meal of leg of lamb, salmon, flatbread, Swedish Christmas ham and Norwegian beer. (AP Photo/Steve Nesius)

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Norwegian Lt. Col. Steinar Gulesto, center, and Maj. Brede Hertzenberg, right, serve food in a chow line during a Nordic Christmas celebration hosted by coalition members from Norway, Finland, Sweden and Denmark Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2003 at U.S. Central Command at MacDill Air Force Base, in Tampa, Fla. Some 500 international and U.S soldiers enjoyed a meal of leg of lamb, cured salmon, Swedish Christmas ham, flat bread and Norwegian beer. (AP Photo/Steve Nesius)

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Soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division eat dinner along side a Christmas tree at their base in Baghdad Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)

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Thousands of Iraqi Kurds gathered in Kirkuk on Monday to demand inclusion of the northern oil centre in a future autonomous Kurdish region. "Kirkuk, Kirkuk, heart of Kurdistan," they chanted in the city centre. "We demand federalism for Kurdistan". (***** Images file)

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Hollywood actor Ben Affleck, right, watches as a member of the U.S. military, Mario Jose, 20, from St. Peterburg, Fla., trains a dolphin near Mina Salman, Bahrain, Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Ali Fraidoon)

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Hollywood actor Ben Affleck, front, entertains U.S military aboard the carrier USS Enterprise in the Persian Gulf Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Ali Fraidoon)

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U.S soldiers of 1st Battalion, 22nd Regiment, (1-22) of the 4th Infantry Division walk as the sun sets over their military base in Tikrit, Iraq, Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

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The Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) summit in session at the Bayan Palace, Bayan, Kuwait City on Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. Leaders of Arab countries from the Persian Gulf agreed Monday to form a pact to combat terrorism and praised Washington for planning to transfer power to Iraqis by mid-2004. (AP Photo/Gustavo Ferrari)

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A security guard of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat stands next to a Christmas tree being decorated at Arafat's battered West Bank headquarters in Ramallah, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)

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Masked supporters of the Islamic group Hamas hold mock rockets as they destroy a model of an Israeli prison, during a demonstration to mark the 16th anniversary of the founding of the group at the university of the West Bank town of Hebron Monday Dec. 22, 2003. Visiting Israel for the first time in more than two years, Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher said Monday that he was very optimistic that the cease-fire talks with the Palestinian factions would be successful and that the road map can be revived. (AP Photo/Nasser Shiyoukhi)

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A Palestinian gunman shoots at Israeli troops, not seen, as he stands behind a wall during clashes in the West Bank town of Jenin Monday Dec. 22, 2003. According to witnesses, four civilians were wounded in the clashes and a militant leader arrested. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)

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Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher, center, is carried out of the al Aqsa Mosque compound in Jerusalem's Old City by bodyguards Monday Dec. 22, 2003. According to witnesses, Muslim extremists shouted at him and tried to assault him as he tried to pray at the Al Aqsa Mosque, Islam's third-holiest site. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)

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Israel's Deputy Prime Minister has warned that separating Israel from the Palestinians might mean moving tens of thousands of Jewish settlers from the West Bank and Gaza Strip and probably lead to confrontations with settlers and their supporters(WN)

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China is changing its constitution to protect private property rights for the first time since the 1949 communist revolution, a key step in making capitalism its economy's driving force. A constitutional amendment endorsed by the Communist party went before legislators on Monday and their approval seemed certain. (DE.gov file)

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An armed British policemen stands guard behind a security fence which rings the U.S. Embassy in London's Grosvenor Square, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. Security in London has been stepped up due to a warning from the U.S. concerning a terrorist attack over the Christmas period. (AP Photo/Richard Lewis)

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New York City Police Detective Edward Bogdanowicz stands guard outside the New York Stock Exchange with other members of the NYPD's Hercules squad (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/13668p-12856c.html) Monday, Dec. 22, 2003. Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge announced over the weekend that he has raised the national terror alert from "Code Yellow" to "Code Orange," or high risk. New York City has maintained a Code Orange status since the color-coded system was introduced in March 2002. (AP Photo/Jennifer Szymaszek)

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Nice Photo! ;)

Arabian Sea (Dec. 20, 2003) -- Specially trained boarding team members from the guided missile cruiser USS Philippine Sea (CG 58), board and take control of one of two wooden dhows found loaded with heroin and methamphetamines during the second of two significant drug seizures in the 5th Fleet region in the past week. Legal officials are investigating to determine connections to al Qaeda (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2003/n12202003_200312202.html) and the use of drug money for funding of terrorist operations worldwide. U.S. Navy photo. (RELEASED)

[Javehn]

Poor idiotic morrons ! When you learn to fight ?? If you want to do something , at list do it as it should be done . Then they cry why they get killed ... Very smart , one against entire task group . Every clown can march on parades ...

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USS Enterprize ? The final frontier ...That girly looks like Rene Zellweger.Any chance that's her ?
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I am not fully realize what kinda sight this is , and how effective the combination of M16 with that sight get's . And what is going on with his M16 ? Looks like he mad some modifications there.
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[earl]

I am not fully realize what kinda sight this is , and how effective the combination of M16 with that sight get's
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Who is this guy? Wouldn't 4th ID be stuck with whatever weapons are assigned to them (no personal choice?). This is a M16 barrel, KAC RAS forend, M4 buttstock, and a plastic (diemaco?) magazine. Seems like a strange combination of stuff for a 'regular' unit.

[Javehn]

Man , something is not "kosher" with that picture . What the hell that should be ?? Is it personal modification (if those are allowed ) , or what the hell is going on there ??

[Fintin]

anyone notice in the photo of the guy with the big scope that he has a canadian style mag in his rifle.

[He219]

He is probably the Unit Designated Marksman. The butt is a standard telescoping type that all M4's have and the Magazine is one of those Thermo-Mold types...



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Paul Bremer, Administrator of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq (news - web sites), left, stands with Termite Watkins right the coach of the Iraqi boxing team, and his team on the stairs of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s old palace in Baghdad, Iraq,Saturday Dec. 20 , 2003. The Iraqi boxing team is due to depart for Indonesia to take part in the Olympic qualifiers. ( AP Photo/Kim Ludbrook, Pool)

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Paul Bremer, Administrator of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq (news - web sites) wears the cap with the moto of the Iraqi boxing team, Iraq is back, in Baghdad, Iraq,Saturday Dec. 20, 2003. ( AP Photo/Kim Ludbrook, Pool )

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Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher, center, is whisked out of the al Aqsa compound in Jerusalem's Old City by bodyguards Monday Dec. 22, 2003. According to witnesses, Muslim extremists shouted at him and tried to assault him as he tried to pray at the Al Aqsa Mosque, Islam's third-holiest site. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)

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Russian military officials, no names given, look into an open silo of an intercontinental ballistic Topol-M missile at an undisclosed location in Russia in this 2001 file photo. (AP Photo)

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An intercontinental ballistic Topol-M missile takes off from a launch pad at an undisclosed location in Russia in this 2001 file photo. Russia has deployed a fresh batch of its top-of-the-line strategic nuclear missiles after a break caused by a funding shortage, said military officials on Monday Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo)

[One?]

Poor idiotic morrons ! When you learn to fight ?? If you want to do something , at list do it as it should be done . Then they cry why they get killed ... Very smart , one against entire task group . Every clown can march on parades ...

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You are patrloing the streets and out of no where round start hitting the walls around you. Would you be scared? Or you gonna be like rambo? Even if 1 person with a pistol fired a shot it will disturb the enemy.

[Javehn]

I see your point , i would be scared to **** , but i will authomaticly react also with all the task force - another at list 8 guys , tank , and so on .. And if a combat team from they side had a chance to get out from the fire fight between IDF and them allive , one man shure doesn't have any chance . I personnaly have no problem , if they wanna end they lifes like a heros and shahids , go ahead and do it .

[He219]

I'm surprised that there are no comments on the VBSS pic! :|

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Iraqi workers dismember empty Russian-made Sam 7 missiles before melting them for scrap iron in Falluja, northeastern Iraq, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

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Iraqi workers carry empty Russian-made Sam 7 missile heads before melting them for scrap iron in Falluja, northeastern Iraq, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

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Iraqi workers melt empty Russian-made Sam 7 missile heads in order to sell them as scrap iron in Fallujah, northeastern Iraq, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

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Israeli soldiers guard detained Palestinian suspects in the Balata refugee camp in the West Bank town of Nablus, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. The Israeli army imposed a curfew in the camp as they were conducting an operation to search for militants. (AP Photo/Nasser Ishtayeh)

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Palestinian schoolgirls react after being refused entry into the Balata refugee camp were their school is located, during an Israeli army incursion in the camp in the West Bank town of Nablus, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. The israeli army imposed a curfew in the camp as they were conducting an operation to search for militants. (AP Photo/Nasser Ishtayeh)

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Mark Henderson, second right in front, embraces Erez Altawil, from Israeli, at the Alfonso Lopez airport in Valledupar, 410 miles north of Bogota, Colombia, Monday, Dec. 22, 2003, after being freed by rebels of the National Liberation Army, ELN. To the left, Beni Daniel is embraced by a relative and Orpaz Ohayon speaks on a cellphone. Colombian rebels released four Israelis and a Briton to a humanitarian commission Monday after holding them in the jungle-covered mountains of northern Colombia for 101 days, where they endured hunger, isolation and the threat of death.(AP Photo/Javier Galeano)

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U.S soldiers play with disabled Iraqi boys in the Mother Theresa orphanage in downtown Baghdad, Iraq, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. U.S. soldiers distribute holiday presents to Iraqi children twice a week in Baghdad. (AP Photo/Laurent Rebours)

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Sgt. 1st Class Joseph Ferrand, a medic with 1st Battalion, 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment, hands out bags with stockings and goodies to children at the Al Awiya and St. Hanna orphanages in Baghdad, Iraq, for Operation Ho, Ho, Ho. SEE LATEST STORIES (Sgt. Christopher Stanis, 1AD PAO)

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Col. John Huntley, 414th Civil Affairs Battalion commander, an Army Reserve unit from Utica, N.Y., and Sheik Saad Abid Kadahiu rotates the floodgate handle releasing water into the agriculture communities southwest of Baghdad recently. SEE LATEST STORIES (Photo by Sgt. Mark Bell, 372nd MPAD)

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What is it, a G36K with the carrying handle removed?

Capital Hill police officer Ken Hiser guards the US Capitol, Monday, Dec. 22, 2003 in Washington. Government officials urged people on Monday to "just go about your business" despite the decision to raise the nation's terror-attack warning to its second-highest level. (AP Photo/Lauren Burke)

[uri]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499598

Israeli soldiers guard detained Palestinian suspects in the Balata refugee camp in the West Bank town of Nablus, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. The Israeli army imposed a curfew in the camp as they were conducting an operation to search for militants. (AP Photo/Nasser Ishtayeh)


a wrong way to put a double magasine.

[George W. Bush]

Poor idiotic morrons ! When you learn to fight ?? If you want to do something , at list do it as it should be done . Then they cry why they get killed ... Very smart , one against entire task group . Every clown can march on parades ...

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499441


You are patrloing the streets and out of no where round start hitting the walls around you. Would you be scared? Or you gonna be like rambo? Even if 1 person with a pistol fired a shot it will disturb the enemy.

What?

[IDFM203]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499598

Israeli soldiers guard detained Palestinian suspects in the Balata refugee camp in the West Bank town of Nablus, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. The Israeli army imposed a curfew in the camp as they were conducting an operation to search for militants. (AP Photo/Nasser Ishtayeh)


a wrong way to put a double magasine.

I don’t see why you say that……….is it because of the side that the outer mag is facing??

As far as I know In the Idf it is personal preference…some do it this side like here
http://www.isayeret.com/units/civi/yamam/yamam-101.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/sniping/sp66-c.jpg

and some do it this side like here...
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/m4/dm.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/m4/M4DM.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/m4/search.jpg


perhaps I am missing something that you see…….can you please explain??

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499352

Just curious, what is up with the helmet cover? A, is it supposed to be that big? And B, are they handed out to soldiers or individual soldiers make those and C, why do they use that material in the middle east when for the most part its a desert setting?

Shalom :D

[Javehn]

He means that the right Magazine should be lower then left , not to block empty cases ejector (i shure it has another name :| ) . About that last picture , i am clueless about his optics , and the weapon for that matter .It lookes like M16A3 , stock from Car15 , and this sniper optic (someone here suggested trijicon. I am in doubt ) ?? Why the hell he goes with NVG at day time ?? Strange , strange ...

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Im likeing the those thermo-mold magazine that dude has sitting on the apc.

[uri]

the matter of personal choise is wrong, but it's the reality.

Jevenh is wrong.
the magasine don't block the empty bullet casing.

the reason it's wrong is whan you wanna change the magasine, that wrong way, the empty magasine will apear on the left side of the M16 and will disturbe pressing "the thing" (don't know the name in eng) for to re-establishing the fire.

[IDFM203]

He means that the right Magazine should be lower then left , not to block empty cases ejector First of all from what I can see, the right mag is lower then the left one

Though after looking again at the pic, I can see that yes, perhaps he should lower it a drop more.

Hey he’s probably a “golanchic” ;) :cantbeli:

Oh and I believe in English its called the ejection port.

Shalom :D

[redhawk_six]

@IDFM203: That stuff on their helmet is called scrim, it's supposed to help disguise their shape. It is also used to help camoflauge the soldier in wooded areas.

[Javehn]

the matter of personal choise is wrong, but it's the reality.

Jevenh is wrong.
the magasine don't block the empty bullet casing.

the reason it's wrong is whan you wanna change the magasine, that wrong way, the empty magasine will apear on the left side of the M16 and will disturbe pressing "the thing" (don't know the name in eng) for to re-establishing the fire.

Yes , that too ...the "thingie that release the thingie that move bullets inside" thingie ?? He could fire allready one magazine and using the second ...Ha Ha Ha ?? Wassssuuupppp ??

[Ratamacue]

IDF, think of those covers as being our equivalent to your "clown hats." As far as I know, each soldier creates his own (much like a ghillie suit) so I guess that guy just wanted to have a huge one. ;)

[IDFM203]

the matter of personal choise is wrong, but it's the reality.

Jevenh is wrong.
the magasine don't block the empty bullet casing.

the reason it's wrong is whan you wanna change the magasine, that wrong way, the empty magasine will apear on the left side of the M16 and will disturbe pressing "the thing" (don't know the name in eng) for to re-establishing the fire.I hear you..........I actually had it the other way so... :D

Again I served but that doest mean I know everything about what each unit does and why.....all I can say is that different units and different soldiers have their own personal preferences (whether good or bad, its a consequence of the IDF’s independent mentality)

Shalom :D

[uri]

the matter of personal choise is wrong, but it's the reality.

Jevenh is wrong.
the magasine don't block the empty bullet casing.

the reason it's wrong is whan you wanna change the magasine, that wrong way, the empty magasine will apear on the left side of the M16 and will disturbe pressing "the thing" (don't know the name in eng) for to re-establishing the fire.I hear you..........I actually had it the other way so... :D

Again I served but that doest mean I know everything about what each unit does and why.....all I can say is that different units and different soldiers have their own personal preferences (whether good or bad, its a consequence of the IDF’s independent mentality)

Shalom :D

all i say that personal preferences are suck and often wrong.
putting the double magasine that way will disturb to changing it in fast way.
but, people do it, that doesn't say it's good' because it isn't.

[IDFM203]

@IDFM203: That stuff on their helmet is called scrim, it's supposed to help disguise their shape. It is also used to help camoflauge the soldier in wooded areas. yes I know what its for………we have the same concept in the IDF (though a totally different material).

Listen it’s a great concept that works!!! :D

What I am asking is yes the material that the U.S. soldier has on is great for woodland, but they are in the middle east where its mostly desert………….


IDF, think of those covers as being our equivalent to your "clown hats." As far as I know, each soldier creates his own (much like a ghillie suit) so I guess that guy just wanted to have a huge one. ;) hey believe me we have soldiers in the IDF that wear it wrong and too big as well.

I personally think that this soldier has it too big and high (as I see a lot of IDF soldiers make that same mistake).

oh So its not issued this kit………..yeah that’s like the IDF where most soldiers make them their selves.

Shalom :D

[EvanL]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/cpress/20031222/capt.w122217a.jpg

Hockey celebrities and Canadian Forces soldiers watch a memorial ball hockey tournament Monday at Camp Julien in Kabul. (CP/Terry Pedwell)

[FallenAngel]

HE,

The US Capitol Police in Washington DC use G36Ks. Some are modified with the removal of the carry handle and the addition of optic (e.g. aimpoint) and flip-up iron sights.

Here's a pic of what I mean (minus the RAS system)
http://www.tjacorp.com/knights_g36_pic1.jpg

[One?]

Poor idiotic morrons ! When you learn to fight ?? If you want to do something , at list do it as it should be done . Then they cry why they get killed ... Very smart , one against entire task group . Every clown can march on parades ...

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499441


He wasn't alone.

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2003/12/22/1_194327_1_6.jpg

[Undo]

I am sure this guy is alone now, unless they bury them two at a time.

I doubt it is really what the description says anyway, since the photographer would be in the direct line of fire for the Isrealis shooting back, making it unlikely that a real photo like this would ever be developed.

[/quote]

[He219]

Thanks. FallenAngel. Just what I thought.
:D


About that last picture , i am clueless about his optics , and the weapon for that matter .It lookes like M16A3 , stock from Car15 , and this sniper optic (someone here suggested trijicon. I am in doubt ) ?? Why the hell he goes with NVG at day time ?? Strange , strange ...

It's a standard flat-top H-Bar and the service issue tele-stock. The optics appear to be a normal sniper-scope. The NVGs are probably because they just finished an early morning patrol...


why do they use that material in the middle east when for the most part its a desert setting?

http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/LBOX/mini/869388.jpg

Actually, the camo versatility shown makes perfect sense. The Iraqi climate, although mostly desert, is cold during winters with dry, hot, cloudless summers; northern mountainous regions along Iranian and Turkish borders experience cold winters with occasionally heavy snows that melt in early spring, sometimes causing extensive flooding in central and southern Iraq. Iraq's geography, like many Middle Eastern nations, is diverse.

The regions around the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers is mostly marshland - and home to the majority of the Iraqi populus. Notice how cold it has been getting and that US soldiers are reverting back to woodland camo, sometimes mixed with arid camo.

One could re-phrase your statements and say that the IDF should employ desert camo throughout, instead of olive-drab - because we assume you live in a desert... Of course this is a flawed rationale.


the empty magasine will apear on the left side of the M16 and will disturbe pressing "the thing" (don't know the name in eng) for to re-establishing the fire.

The Bolt Catch
;)


http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_031219-N-9742R-001.jpg

Arabian Gulf (Dec. 19, 2003) -- Actor/comedian Robin Williams entertains the crew of USS Enterprise (CVN 65) during a holiday special hosted by the United Service Organization (USO). The show took place in the ship's hangar bay and featured the visiting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Richard Myers, NASCAR driver Mike Wallace, and World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) celebrity Kurt Angle. Enterprise is currently underway conducting missions in the Arabian Gulf in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and the continued war on terrorism. U.S Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Milosz Reterski. (RELEASED)

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_031222-N-7408M-001.jpg

Bahrain (Dec. 22, 2003) -- Aboard USS Enterprise (CVN 65) Academy Award winning actor Ben Affleck addresses the crew on the flight deck in front of the ship’s island while kicking off a United Service Organization (USO) sponsored tour of the Arabian Gulf. He is visiting deployed service members throughout the gulf region. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Justin N. McGarry. (Released)

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_031203-N-0000S-001.jpg

Atlantic Ocean (Dec. 3, 2003) -- The guided missile destroyer USS Cole (DDG 67) encounters heavy seas while transiting across the Atlantic. This is USS Cole’s first deployment since the October 12, 2000, terrorist attack in Yemen. The ship was repaired by the Navy’s Supervisor of Shipbuilding, Repair and Conversion (SUPSHIP), Ingall’s Shipyard, Pascagoula, Miss., for an estimated $250 million. Cole is part of a three ship Surface Strike Group (SSG) assigned to USS Enterprise (CVN 65) Carrier Strike Group (CSG). U.S. Navy photo by Intelligence Specialist 1st Class Brian T. Smith. (RELEASED)

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_031217-N-3799S-003.jpg

Arabian Gulf (Dec. 14, 2003) -- An F/A-18 Hornet assigned to the “Marauders” of Strike Fighter Squadron Eight Two (VFA-82) refuels with an U.S. Air Force KC- 135R Fuel Tanker from the 380th Aerial Refueling Wing. VFA-82 is currently deployed with Carrier Air-wing One (CVW-1) on board USS Enterprise (CVN-65). U.S. Navy photo by Lt.j.g. Perry Solomon. (RELEASED)

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_031217-N-3799S-001.jpg

Arabian Gulf (Dec 17, 2003) -- An F/A-18 Hornet assigned to the “Marauders” of Strike Fighter Squadron Eight Two (VFA 82) soars through the sky during a mission in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. VFA-82 is currently deployed with Carrier Air-wing One (CVW-1) on board USS Enterprise (CVN-65). U.S. Navy photo by Lt.j.g. Grade Perry Solomon. (RELEASED)

[One?]

I am sure this guy is alone now, unless they bury them two at a time.

I doubt it is really what the description says anyway, since the photographer would be in the direct line of fire for the Isrealis shooting back, making it unlikely that a real photo like this would ever be developed.

[/quote]


2 IDF soldeirs killed. 1 seriosuly wounded.

9 Palestinians injured.

[Javehn]

I am sure this guy is alone now, unless they bury them two at a time.

I doubt it is really what the description says anyway, since the photographer would be in the direct line of fire for the Isrealis shooting back, making it unlikely that a real photo like this would ever be developed.



2 IDF soldeirs killed. 1 seriosuly wounded.

9 Palestinians injured.

What are you talking about , and when that happened ?And by the way , have no doubt , sometimes reporter do get inside fire lines ...Sometimes it ends wrong way.

[IDFM203]

To he219

No, I understand that there are different regions, but mostly it is desert.

But anyways those other regions aren’t for the most part thick woodland that requires heavy woodland gear and thick woodland webbing.

Listen Israel has different regions so does Iraq that I get. However the desert regions are the dominate regions and also even those woodland regions or some parts that become marsh like, are for the most part not heavy and thick ones like you find in Europe or in north America.


What I am saying is that I fully applaud U.S. soldiers having this concept, I just feel that the thick woodland materiel that it has chosen is a bit wrong for most parts of the Middle East even during winter.

Just my .02

Shalom :D

[AirZone]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499598

SF ? look at thier shoes...

[Javehn]

Not neccesary at all . I was just about to ask that . Some units get's permission to wear sport shoes . They get money to buy , and they wear them . Those can be all special designated brigade units - ATGM , Radio , Ingeneers ... , Egoz , or like you said ...By the look on his face i would say he is from Golani ..
While the bloody tanker get heavy boots , and should break the head looking for light ones .

[He219]

To he219

No, I understand that there are different regions, but mostly it is desert.

But anyways those other regions aren’t for the most part thick woodland that requires heavy woodland gear and thick woodland webbing.

Listen Israel has different regions so does Iraq that I get. However the desert regions are the dominate regions and also even those woodland regions or some parts that become mash like, are for the most part not heavy and thick ones like you find in Europe or in north America.


What I am saying is that I fully applaud U.S. soldiers having this concept, I just feel that the thick woodland materiel that it has chosen is a bit wrong for most parts of the Middle East even during winter.

Just my .02

Shalom :D

You were talking about this picture??
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499352
I can hardly tell him from the tree in the background... ;)

As for woodland, your comments would be more appropriate to the Woodland NBC Garments worn over BDUs by the Marines during the invasion over the Spring/Summer from Kuwait in their Blitzkrieg to the North. They just didn't have arid NBC protecive suits en masse.
:D


http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499759

Israeli soldiers take positions at the Kisufim junction in the Gaza Strip, after a heavy exchange of fire with Palestinian gunmen, Monday Dec. 22, 2003. Two Israeli army officers were killed during the attack, and one of the gunmen was shot dead by Israeli troops. ( AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)

[AirZone]

Not neccesary at all . I was just about to ask that . Some units get's permission to wear sport shoes . They get money to buy , and they wear them . Those can be all special designated brigade units - ATGM , Radio , Ingeneers ... , Egoz , or like you said ...By the look on his face i would say he is from Golani ..
While the bloody tanker get heavy boots , and should break the head looking for light ones .

alek golani rofl

why special designated bridages get premission for that stuff ? and they have better "akzaut" ?

[IDFM203]

To he219

No, I understand that there are different regions, but mostly it is desert.

But anyways those other regions aren’t for the most part thick woodland that requires heavy woodland gear and thick woodland webbing.

Listen Israel has different regions so does Iraq that I get. However the desert regions are the dominate regions and also even those woodland regions or some parts that become mash like, are for the most part not heavy and thick ones like you find in Europe or in north America.


What I am saying is that I fully applaud U.S. soldiers having this concept, I just feel that the thick woodland materiel that it has chosen is a bit wrong for most parts of the Middle East even during winter.

Just my .02

Shalom :D

You were talking about this picture??
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499352
I can hardly tell him from the tree in the background... ;) yeah I guess you got me ;) …yes you can find some trees in Iraq ;) yeah he blends in real well ;) rofl ;)

( the internet is hard to convey but I am doing this in good fun and mean no disrepect to U.S. soldiers for I actually have alot of repect for them, I just think that they are using the wrong material here ;) )



As for woodland, your comments would be more appropriate to the Woodland NBC Garments worn over BDUs by the Marines during the invasion over the Spring/Summer from Kuwait in their Blitzkrieg to the North. They just didn't have arid NBC protecive suits en masse.
:D yes I also thought that was wrong as well but that wasn’t by choice, that was a budget issue, correct???


Shalom :D

[Javehn]

Not neccesary at all . I was just about to ask that . Some units get's permission to wear sport shoes . They get money to buy , and they wear them . Those can be all special designated brigade units - ATGM , Radio , Ingeneers ... , Egoz , or like you said ...By the look on his face i would say he is from Golani ..
While the bloody tanker get heavy boots , and should break the head looking for light ones .

alek golani rofl

why special designated bridages get premission for that stuff ? and they have better "akzaut" ?

Not special designated brigades , special designated units from different fighting brigades - Like hasa units in every infantry brigade (ATGM , Sayeret , Radio , ingeneers ) , or Palsar 500/7/188 in case of Tank brigades , or specially designated unit like Egoz , or at last all Specops unit . They get nice fat check to buy those sport shoes (palladin is most famous one ) , and they can use it.

That happened today in Kisufim ? Man , didn't knew that ... I will go to watch some news now .

[He219]

yes I also thought that was wrong as well but that wasn’t by choice, that was a budget issue, correct???
I don't think it was for a lack of money in the US military, but most likely the quick deployment for the Invasion. If we can afford to finance your country, we certainly could buy Chem Suits in Arid - given the time...
;)

Some images:

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=495850
Nothing wrong with this camo in Iraq...

....or this...

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=494244


http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=494017

...The Wookiee camo...

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=487851

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=487861

All the Best!
:D

[Javehn]

Oh , crap .. 2 dead officers on Kisufim road in Gaza strip today ..

[IDFM203]

yes I also thought that was wrong as well but that wasn’t by choice, that was a budget issue, correct???
I don't think it was for a lack of money in the US military, but most likely the quick deployment for the Invasion. If we can afford to finance your country, we certainly could buy Chem Suits in Arid - given the time... yes the yearly averages of 3.5 billion a year helps Israel out in what is for it a 122 billion a year economy.

As for the Marines I thought it was a money issue…meaning not about affordability (heck you spend over 300 billion a year on defence including helping and equipping some of Israelis enemies as well ;) :( ) so its not about the U.S. being able to afford something or not for they most certinaly can, but rather about whether the Marines could afford it or not, meaning was there enough funds allocated to the Marines in time or it was a oversight and the army should have done it but they didn’t in time.

I don’t know much about why they use it then so I defer to you if what I said above with regards to the Marines is correct or if its not.



As for the helmet covers, I made my point already, but hey if it works for your guys then more power to you :D

Shalom :D

[Operation Ivy]

He219 good pics woot but u know what your missing ;)

[uri]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499598

SF ? look at thier shoes...

Sayeret Golany
http://www.isayeret.com/units/land/infantry/golany/gallery1.htm

[One?]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499598

SF ? look at thier shoes...

Sayeret Golany
http://www.isayeret.com/units/land/infantry/golany/gallery1.htm

still whats with the shoes? How come they are not wearing the Brown Para boots?

[LJK]

Sayeret Golany
http://www.isayeret.com/units/land/infantry/golany/gallery1.htm

btw... damn that www.isayeret.com web page rocks! a lot of information and nice pics. :)

[uri]

still whats with the shoes? How come they are not wearing the Brown Para boots?

they aren't wearing brown para boots - because they are not paratroopers.
they wear black boots or the ones in the picture.

btw - there is no difference between the black and the brown ones.

[He219]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499598
Finger on the trigger..... :roll:
What happened to SOP?

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Finlay Johnson Richards, 2, of London, England, points at New York City police officers patroling Union Square as part of Operation Hercules as his twin sister Maya Rose looks on, Monday, Dec. 22, 2003 in New York. Government officials on Monday urged people to "just go about your business" despite the decision to raise the nation's terror-attack warning to its second-highest level. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

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An unidentified Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department SWAT team member rides on the back of a police car Saturday, Nov. 30, 2002, in Artesia, Calif. Lawsuits, federal and state investigations, and finger-pointing are ongoing between body armor company Second Chance and the producer of Zylon, a high-tech synthetic fiber woven into many of Second Chance's police vests. (AP Photo/Damian Dovarganes)

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CAPE CANAVERAL AIR FORCE STATION -- A Delta II rocket launches from here Dec. 21. It is carrying a Global Positioning System satellite that helps warfighters with strategic battlefield information. (Boeing photo by Carleton Bailie)

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EGLIN AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. -- Capt. Jeffrey Stands delivers Santa Claus to the 33rd Fighter Wing family Christmas party Dec. 20. Stands is a pilot with the 58th Fighter Squadron. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Cheryl Nolan)

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Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski, second left, assisted by Gen. Andrzej Tyszkiewicz, second right, walks through the headquarters of the Polish-led peacekeeping force in Iraq (news - web sites) at Camp Babylon, Monday, Dec 22, 2003, as the President makes a suprise visit to Polish soldiers in Iraq ahead of Christmas. (AP Photo/PAP, Tomasz Lisiecki)

[IDFM203]

still whats with the shoes? How come they are not wearing the Brown Para boots?

they aren't wearing brown para boots - because they are not paratroopers.
they wear black boots or the ones in the picture.

btw - there is no difference between the black and the brown ones.IF thats sayeret Golani, then just to clarify a bit, yes they are not paratroopers and as such they don’t have brown boots but they are Para qualified and do have a few jumps under their belt and have jump wings.

P.S. to uri, Nachal aren’t paratroopers any more but yet they have brown boots as well ;)

Shalom :D

[UoUo]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499598
Finger on the trigger..... :roll:
What happened to SOP?




LOL

Why not have finger on the trigger when you are in your enemy land.. ?

Or i just get you wrong ?

[He219]

Rather your neighbor's land in lieu of 'Enemy' land. :D

Safety first! An accidental discharge into the ground could cause debris to riccochet and 'poke your eye out', yet alone harm an innocent Palestinian or Israeli bystander in those urban areas...
;)



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Former German terrorist Hans-Joachim Klein sits in the dock before hearing the sentence in his trial at the Frankfurt, Germany, regional court in this Feb.15, 2001 file photo. Klein, who was sentenced to nine years in prison for three counts of murder and three of attempted murder in the 1975 attack on an OPEC (news - web sites) meeting in Vienna, has been released Monday, Dec. 22, 2003, German authorities confirmed. During interrogation, the infamous "Carlos the Jackal" (Ilich Ramírez Sánchez) asserted that his deputy for the OPEC operation had been German terrorist Hans Joachim Klein, codenamed "Angie," who had killed an OPEC security man and an Austrian policeman during that attack. Carlos also testified that the weapons used for the OPEC operation had been kept in an apartment in Frankfurt/Main, where Klein was then living with two other "red revolutionaries" of those days, Daniel Cohn-Bendit and Joschka Fischer. (AP Photo/Frank Rumpenhorst)

[UoUo]

[quote="He219"]Rather your neighbor's land in lieu of 'Enemy' land. :D

[quote]


With neighbor's like them...who even need enemy's ?

[He219]

With neighbor's like them...who even need enemy's ?
:lol:

I'm sure that they think the same thing!
:D

[UoUo]

With neighbor's like them...who even need enemy's ?
:lol:

I'm sure that they think the same thing!
:D

Belive me....in this area...we are the best neighbor they can get....

We in't perfect....i know.

[venture160]

that HUGE scope on the .50 cal is a thermal scope, the av/pvs 13 made by raytheon http://www.tjacorp.com/raytheon.htm it only costs $39,500.

[He219]

I'll take TWO (2) of those......
;)


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A Palestinian boy runs hurls stones at an Israel tank during clashes in the West Bank city of Jenin December 22, 2003. *******/Saeed Dahlah

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A Palestinian gunman fires a spray during an Israeli army operation in the West Bank town of Jenin. Three Palestinians were wounded as Israeli troops pushed into Jenin and arrested a senior militant from the hardline Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, Palestinian medical and security sources said.(AFP/Saif Dahlah)

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Israeli soldiers lead an arrested Palestinian at the Kissufim crossing into the Gaza strip following an attack by Palestinian militants on an army jeep.(AFP/Yaov Lemmer)

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An unidentified Palestinian woman from the West Bank village of Qibbiya holds in this Aug 11 1997 file photo her newly-born infant which was born inside the van moments before while the vehicle, on it's way to hospital, was held up at an Israeli army roadblock near Bituniya on the outskirts of Ramallah. Because of Israeli roadblocks and restrictions in the West Bank, more than half of Palestinian mothers give birth at home instead of risking a ride to a hospital, according to a report released Monday Dec. 23, 2003. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)

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Israeli policemen lie on the ground as they stimulate wounded people from a chemical attack during a drill held at the Ben Gurion International airport close to Tel Aviv.(AFP/Yoav Lemmer)

[Vance]

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Nice tactics Abdul.

[One?]

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Nice tactics Abdul.

spray and hope the enemy hides :)

As to sayeret golani and the boots my bad. I thought they were paratroopers.

[usa320]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=494244

They shoulda taken a plastic bag, filled it with dog ****, and dropped it in there.

[Marmot1]

Former German terrorist Hans-Joachim Klein sits in the dock before hearing the sentence in his trial at the Frankfurt, Germany, regional court in this Feb.15, 2001 file photo. Klein, who was sentenced to nine years in prison for three counts of murder and three of attempted murder in the 1975 attack on an OPEC (news - web sites) meeting in Vienna, has been released Monday, Dec. 22, 2003, German authorities confirmed. During interrogation, the infamous "Carlos the Jackal" (Ilich Ramírez Sánchez) asserted that his deputy for the OPEC operation had been German terrorist Hans Joachim Klein, codenamed "Angie," who had killed an OPEC security man and an Austrian policeman during that attack. Carlos also testified that the weapons used for the OPEC operation had been kept in an apartment in Frankfurt/Main, where Klein was then living with two other "red revolutionaries" of those days, Daniel Cohn-Bendit and Joschka Fischer. (AP Photo/Frank Rumpenhorst)
and Joschka Fischer of course didn't know that guns were there.... sometimes it is hard to belive that he don't have blood on his hands...

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Everyone has there fingers on the trigger....deut would chew all these guys out especially the cops in NY that have there fingers on the trigger around lil kids (although I hope they dont have one in the chamber...and hopefully they have there safteys on)

:cantbeli: :cantbeli:
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499786

[jprichard]

Does anybody know what kinda muzzle brake/flash suppressor the Israeli soldier has on his M-16 in IDFM203's post on page 1, 6th picture down?

[jprichard]

Does anybody know what kinda muzzle brake/flash suppressor the Israeli soldier has on his M-16 in IDFM203's post on page 1, 6th picture down?

[Chris196]

Everyone has there fingers on the trigger....deut would chew all these guys out especially the cops in NY that have there fingers on the trigger around lil kids (although I hope they dont have one in the chamber...and hopefully they have there safteys on)

:cantbeli: :cantbeli:
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=499786


Put your glasses on man.