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Two foreign naval ships arriving in the city for Fleet Week collided off Staten Island yesterday, causing minor damage to both, according to organizers. No injuries were reported.
The Jean Bart, a French ship, collided with the Moawin, a Pakistani vessel, off Stapleton Pier, Fleet Week officials said in a news release.
The French AAW frigate struck the port side of the Pakistani support ship, which was already moored, the organizers said.
There was visible damage across 30 feet of the French vessel's hull, the organizers said. The Pakistani ship was only superficially damaged.
Sorry, i don't know the source, I copied/pasted the text from another forum...
By the way, is any member from MP going to Fleet Week and taking nice pictures ???
Ratamacue
05-29-2005, 10:30 PM
I would have gone if I still lived on Long Island, but I don't. :(
onefast93z28
05-29-2005, 11:00 PM
I was there on Thursday, got some pictures of the SEALs display and such. I'm going to post the pics soon, anyway, I don't think any French ships are at fleet week this year. Just US and Pakistaini.
Secret Squirrel
05-29-2005, 11:10 PM
Sorry, i don't know the source, I copied/pasted the text from another forum...
By the way, is any member from MP going to Fleet Week and taking nice pictures ???
Here's a link to the article...
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/44679.htm
p.s - if you want to track articles, just copy and paste the first line into google and google it (ie. www.google.com).
BlackRain
05-30-2005, 10:16 AM
FS Jean Bart
http://www.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/b/bf/300px-FS_Jean_Bart_1.jpg
The Jean Bart (D615) is an anti-air frigate of the French Marine Nationale of the Cassard type.
Versus
PNS MOAWIN
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/pakistan/images/moawin.jpg
The Pakistan Navy ship Moawin, is a Logistic support ship having two Seaking helicopters onboard. The Moawin is the Ex HMS POOLSTER ship and it was transferred in July 1994 from the Dutch Navy.
BlackRain
05-30-2005, 10:21 AM
http://img176.echo.cx/img176/3310/statue7mk.jpg
The USS John F. Kennedy aircraft carrier passes the Statue of Liberty during Fleet Week.
Danzer
05-30-2005, 10:29 AM
It was in the NY post. Okay you know..not flaming the french but isn't it a bit weird to hit a stationary target that's about twice the size of the frigate?
:roll:
It was in the NY post. Okay you know..not flaming the french but isn't it a bit weird to hit a stationary target that's about twice the size of the frigate?
:roll:
French drivers
Shiftyfive
05-30-2005, 01:32 PM
And I thought the cabbies in New York were bad :roll:
rofl
Creeper
05-31-2005, 01:54 AM
HAHAHAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, I love those ****ing frenchies
Atlantic Friend
05-31-2005, 03:26 AM
It was in the NY post. Okay you know..not flaming the french but isn't it a bit weird to hit a stationary target that's about twice the size of the frigate?
:roll:
You mean, like the Los Angeles sub commander who grounded his sub a few months ago ? Talk about hitting a stationary target WAY bigger than his boat... ;) :roll:
colonel
05-31-2005, 03:37 AM
It was in the NY post. Okay you know..not flaming the french but isn't it a bit weird to hit a stationary target that's about twice the size of the frigate?
:roll:
You mean, like the Los Angeles sub commander who grounded his sub a few months ago ? Talk about hitting a stationary target WAY bigger than his boat... ;) :roll:
Beautiful! Thats why I love this forum. :D
Atlantic Friend
05-31-2005, 03:39 AM
It was in the NY post. Okay you know..not flaming the french but isn't it a bit weird to hit a stationary target that's about twice the size of the frigate?
:roll:
You mean, like the Los Angeles sub commander who grounded his sub a few months ago ? Talk about hitting a stationary target WAY bigger than his boat... ;) :roll:
Beautiful! Thats why I love this forum. :D
This forum always stirs my Mean Streak...
Seiyuuki
05-31-2005, 03:42 AM
It was in the NY post. Okay you know..not flaming the french but isn't it a bit weird to hit a stationary target that's about twice the size of the frigate?
:roll:
You mean, like the Los Angeles sub commander who grounded his sub a few months ago ? Talk about hitting a stationary target WAY bigger than his boat... ;) :roll:
Beautiful! Thats why I love this forum. :D
This forum always stirs my Mean Streak...
Then again, steering by sound without visual in a submarine compare to...you can actually see a stationary frigate?!?!?!
Anyway, don't know much about steering a ship, but isn't there tugboats or harbor pilots and such to guide these ships around when they're near a port?
Atlantic Friend
05-31-2005, 03:54 AM
It was in the NY post. Okay you know..not flaming the french but isn't it a bit weird to hit a stationary target that's about twice the size of the frigate?
:roll:
You mean, like the Los Angeles sub commander who grounded his sub a few months ago ? Talk about hitting a stationary target WAY bigger than his boat... ;) :roll:
Beautiful! Thats why I love this forum. :D
This forum always stirs my Mean Streak...
Then again, steering by sound without visual in a submarine compare to...you can actually see a stationary frigate?!?!?!
Anyway, don't know much about steering a ship, but isn't there tugboats or harbor pilots and such to guide these ships around when they're near a port?
As a sub commander and helmsman are supposed to know where the ground is because of a) their training, and b) high-tech navigational instruments, and yet...
Thing is, accidents DO happen, and WILL happen, regardless of technology or skill, because men are by nature ****e to fatigue and errors...
As for pilots and tugboats, I don't know if they are used for every ship or just around the biggest ones. But that's an interesting remark, as they may be one of the the causes of the error too.
Secret Squirrel
05-31-2005, 04:11 AM
Anyway, don't know much about steering a ship, but isn't there tugboats or harbor pilots and such to guide these ships around when they're near a port?
I'm fairly certain (not a 100%) that you wouldnt use a tug for a frigate. But all jokes aside, the French ship basically clipped the side of the other ship. Here's a pic from the event of 2 American ships so you can see how close they're moored.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2005/lowres_20050530123425_11ship.jpg
DarkCypher
05-31-2005, 04:19 AM
What other international ships are at fleet week?
colonel
05-31-2005, 07:55 AM
That reminds me about the highly embarressing accident that occurred in South Africa in the late 70's when on a night excercise, a Frigate, the SAS Kruger, crossed the bows of the suppply ship SAS Tafelbeg and was rammmed then sank. There were plenty of fatalities, least of all the Frigate itself. Remember the 6 P's. Proper planning prevents piss poor performance!
sheroo
05-31-2005, 08:33 AM
It was in the NY post. Okay you know..not flaming the french but isn't it a bit weird to hit a stationary target that's about twice the size of the frigate?
:roll:
You mean, like the Los Angeles sub commander who grounded his sub a few months ago ? Talk about hitting a stationary target WAY bigger than his boat... ;) :roll:
Beautiful! Thats why I love this forum. :D
This forum always stirs my Mean Streak...
Then again, steering by sound without visual in a submarine compare to...you can actually see a stationary frigate?!?!?!
Anyway, don't know much about steering a ship, but isn't there tugboats or harbor pilots and such to guide these ships around when they're near a port?
As a sub commander and helmsman are supposed to know where the ground is because of a) their training, and b) high-tech navigational instruments, and yet...
Thing is, accidents DO happen, and WILL happen, regardless of technology or skill, because men are by nature ****e to fatigue and errors...
As for pilots and tugboats, I don't know if they are used for every ship or just around the biggest ones. But that's an interesting remark, as they may be one of the the causes of the error too.
Maybe it was the new paki stealth boat. Hey I am Indian I will Blame everything on the PAKI's
Danzer
05-31-2005, 11:24 AM
It was in the NY post. Okay you know..not flaming the french but isn't it a bit weird to hit a stationary target that's about twice the size of the frigate?
:roll:
You mean, like the Los Angeles sub commander who grounded his sub a few months ago ? Talk about hitting a stationary target WAY bigger than his boat... ;) :roll:
That's why i said not flaming the french..it's just a stupid accident... :cantbeli:
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