Looking for Three Army Rangers to Interview

[Nachtschleicher]

Hello everyone. I am looking for three Army Rangers to interview for my research paper. Each Ranger will hopefully answer five questions. For all 15 questions look below:

1. What are some requirements to become a Ranger?
2. What is the life of an Army Ranger like?
3. Where can the life of an Army Ranger lead?
4. How is the life of an Army Ranger’s family?
5. What kind of ops can Rangers perform? Recon, Seizure of property, “kidnappings” (such as Adhid in Mogadishu although that was Delta’s job), air, land, water, etc.
6. What is the Ranger’s primary role in battle?
7. What other roles can Rangers perform?
8. What is Ranger selection process like?
9. What do Rangers do in peacetime? Are they deployed, or do they stay at home and train?
10. What kind of fighters are Rangers? (Guerilla, conventional, etc)
11. What do most Rangers want to become? (Special Forces, member of SFOD: Delta, Officers, etc.)
12. What battles (if any) have you been involved in?
13. What is involved in Ranger training?
14. Who are some famous Ranger heroes?
15. What is the Ranger’s most famous battle?

Most can be answered through online research or books, but one requirement for this paper is that I interview three people so... That's why. Please e-mail me if you are interested in being interviewed. Former Rangers welcome, as well as active Rangers!

[Vance]

The Rangers most famous battle would probably be D-Day....or Mogadishu

[GearGod]

Yea I got a question too! What do the majority of rangers wear-as in vest system, armor, etc.? Do they wear the ETLBV, Ranger RACK, MOLLE II FLC, ALICE LC-2 Suspenders, RAV, SPEAR BALCS Ranger Armor, SPEAR ELCS, etc..??

[Ratamacue]

rofl

[JohnJohn]

The Rangers most famous battle would probably be D-Day....or Mogadishu

or their involvement in the battle of the bulge, vietnam, operation eagle claw, operation urgent fury in greneda, operation just cause in panama, operation desert storm, operations in eastern europe, operation infinite justice(heh, screw what those other guys call it).

I hate it when people just think MOG this and MOG that, Rangers have done much more.

Take a look at Takur Ghar for instance, Vietnam-scale firefight. Alot of good men didn't make it through that one :|

[GearGod]

1776-2001 Ranger History http://www.armyranger.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=43

[TacoDelRio]

Several Rangers I know were in Grenada, jumping out low at night on the eastern shore. A good way to get your CIB, yes?

Does anyone know what happens if you have your EIB (Expert Infantry Badge), and then see combat and get a CIB (Combat Infantry Badge)? Do they just adorn your EIB with oakleaves or a star?

Thank you.

Hooah! p-)

[JohnJohn]

get rid of that avatar and remove "Sua Sponte" from your sig. You aren't a Ranger :bash:

[Duke]

The CIB has three levels, each one more ornate than the other--multiple stars. Since its inception the CIB has been only issued at its basic level for reasons I dont know. For example, a infantryman who has seen combat in Vietnam, Grenada, and Panama has the first tier CIB. No one has the multiple issued CIB. CIB obviously supercedes the EIB. So, thats why we see only the wreathed CIB.

[MSG Dman]

If you have both a CIB and an EIB you must by regulation wear the CIB. It has precedence over the EIB. You remove the EIB forever and sew/pin on the CIB.

[sn589]

[quote="duke"]For example, a infantryman who has seen combat in Vietnam, Grenada, and Panama has the first tier CIB. No one has the multiple issued CIB.

Sorry Duke but I had a First Sergeant that had a CIB with a Star (denotes second award). He had seen combat in to different theaters and two different conflicts.


To MR. Sparticus (or whatever your name is) Take that Scroll off your screen name. You do not have the right to wear it nor claim it. Good men have died for that Scroll. :bash:

[Duke]

I was just told and read that no multiple awardees of the CIB exist. I guess your right. I feel old, they changed single awardee to multiple after Somalia.

[GearGod]

JohnJohn: Is it okay for a non-ranger then to wear a shirt like this:

http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/agcatalog/level4s.tam?xax=15010&M5COPY%2Ectx=26187&M5%2Ectx=3424&M2%5FDESC%2Ectx=Logowear%20%2D%20A%2DTeam%99%20%207%2E62%20Design%20T%2DShirts&level3%2Ectx=results%2Etam&query%2Ectx=7%2E62%20Design%20&backto=%2Fagcatalog%2Fresults%2Etam

http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/agcatalog/level4s.tam?xax=25220&pagenumber%2Eptx=1&M5COPY%2Ectx=26192&M5%2Ectx=3424&M2%5FDESC%2Ectx=Logowear%20%2D%20A%2DTeam%99%20%207%2E62%20Design%20T%2DShirts&level3%2Ectx=results%2Etam&query%2Ectx=7%2E62%20Design%20&backto=%2Fagcatalog%2Fresults%2Etam

I'd wear shirts like those regardless of what people think--But id NEVER buy/wear(rangerjoes.com) ranger insignia i.e. ranger/airborne tab + scroll etc. which I did not earn, to wear for airsoft even if I looked like this:

http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/albums/USSOCOM_Training/28a18.jpg

[JohnJohn]

the first is pushing it, but as long as you don't claim to be a Ranger there is no real problem, heh, until you come face to face with a Ranger that is ;)

The second shirt is fine, very nice by the way ;)

[David]

both those shirts imply or say directly that the person wearing them is a ranger. i'm not suprised that you would wear them adam, but someone with respect and dignity would not because they'd realize that they haven't earned the right to.

[GearGod]

LOL they earned the ranger tab, not the ranger tab graphic on a shirt! However, the first shirt with the simple "RANGER" tab doesnt look as pretty as the second more graphic and stylish shirt anyway.. and looks more civilian-friendly if you will hehehe

[JohnJohn]

first shirt implies the wearer is a ranger, has giant tab that says "RANGER", unlike the second that says "AIRBORNE RANGERS LEAD THE WAY". Second is fine ;)

[David]

ok, adam. you wear those shirts, and go up to some rangers and see what they say.

[GearGod]

I'll wear the second one, and he'll think Im some wannabe fan, which I am

[JTFazz]

Did the poor guy who started this thread get anything close to a response to his original question? On another forum I moderate, we call this a thread hijacking... rofl

[GearGod]

Hehehe..... Where are the Rangers?? I must say I worship them

[Vance]

I bought a Ranger Tab patch....is that bad

[JiJoMacLE45]

Sorry to 'thread hijack' and keep this going.

You know I never thought I'd do this, and as much as it pains me, I have to agree w/ Adam on this one. It's a t-shirt. Take a look at the NYPD, FDNY, and PAPD shirts and caps that were everywhere after 9/11. They were not worn b/c people wanted others to think that they were 'one of the bravest or the finest'. They wore this kit to show their appreciation and admiration for those brave men and women who gave their all to make sure others could make it out alive. I really do not see a problem w/ someone wearing a service t-shirt to show their support for our men and women in uniform. Some people might call it a little hokey, but so what, wear the shirt, show your support, I'd call it patriotism if anything.

It does go w/o saying that if the person is walking around with a Ranger
t-shirt and saying they are Matt Eversman or that they jumped into Rio Hato or some other nonsense then they deserve to spend a horrible eternity in purgatory(cough*France*cough)

[Doc]

If you have both a CIB and an EIB you must by regulation wear the CIB. It has precedence over the EIB. You remove the EIB forever and sew/pin on the CIB.

This is false Dman. Sorry, but by AR 670-1,(wear and appearance of Army uniforms), you can wear either award, as they are distinctly separate, but you can't wear both awards on the same uniform. If you are wearing a CIB, you must also wear the combat patch of the unit in which you earned the CIB. You don't, however, have to wear the CIB in order to wear the combat patch.

[GearGod]

Vance: Buying it is not bad. But wearing it on your shoulder and playing airsoft saying you are a ranger IS bad haha... Hey I found this on armyranger.com:

"Until the time comes for you to pursue becoming a Ranger, there is no need to posture as "I'm going to be a Ranger", "I was almost a Ranger", etc... You either ARE or you ARE NOT. You either WERE or you WERE NOT. There is no middle ground and if you posture yourself as a Ranger, without having been one in the presence of those who ARE Rangers or Ranger Veterans, you will find yourself in an uncomfortable situation.

You will be branded a "WANNABEE", flogged mercilessly in public view, and most likely have your name, address and other personal information posted to several websites who will be most pleased to expose you. The Ranger Community, you will find, is united in regard to protecting it's reputation by not permitting those who have not achieved the status of 'Ranger' from misrepresenting one's self when one is not"

Nothing to do about wearing a shirt, but an addition to JiJoMacLE45's comment about "It does go w/o saying that if the person is walking around with a Ranger t-shirt and saying they are Matt Eversman or that they jumped into Rio Hato or some other nonsense then they deserve to spend a horrible eternity in purgatory(cough*France*cough)"

[TacoDelRio]

The way I see it is that if a person is DEFINITLY going to do that with their life, then let them pretend they can do it etc.

I apologize for putting the ranger stuff on my post. I'm just trying to show my pride. Some people should take their screen names off of theirs, for maybe they do not deserve it. I'll go find a DEP thing to put on mine. It's just that my Army buddies (yes, a few who are Ranger qualified) are encouraging the hell out of me to do these things. I can think for myself, but I don't know if that's true, since I'm wasting my time on this website. (no offense, Hood & moderators.)

I dislike those PX heroes who put their patches on their shoulders, when they are actually just teenagers who play airsoft. I must admit, I did that once, then I realized my fault, and changed it. I have a Ranger tab on my backpack, but not on my shoulder. I would'nt wear it unless I earned it. I already know the whole "Earned, not issued" quote. I bought the Ranger tabs from a PX, and I'm wondering why it's legal or whatnot for a normal guy like me to buy one, you know? Is there anything against that, other than someone kicking the crap out of another person for wearing it if they did'nt earn it? :backhand:

I think I'll keep the Ranger scroll under my name, even though it should go way above it. When I actually become one, I'll be too busy to waste my time online, believe me! rofl

I think t-shirts are ok, probably only because I wear them. If I was an "important person", I would not mind seeing some kid wear a Ranger, NYPD, LAPD, NYFD, or whatever shirt. It shows that they either respect that group, want to be in it, or they got it handed down or whatnot.

But, alas, I very much dislike seeing kids with crap on their airsoft gear that they didn't earn etc. I think I'll get a Pope tattoo on my head, so people will think that I'm the Pope.

Apologies.

Hooah! (still gonna say it, I'm stubborn, that's what got me as far as I think I am)

[sn589]

Well Mr. DEP when you graduate (if you graduate) basic. I friggin dare you to go to the PX, buy a "RANGER" t-shirt and wear it over by RIP (its down the road from Jump school) so you can "just show your support for the 75th." Then when you get done at the dentist (putting your teeth back in your c*ck holster). You will learn what earned not bought or issued really means.

[Trigger]

Hey sn589 cut him some slack. Didn't you read his post? He's proud of our troops and ASPIRES to join them. He isn't claiming to be one yet. I think we need more young people like him. What are your qualifications by the way? How many Purple Hearts do you have? How long were you a POW? Did your brains leak out of the holes in your head?

[TacoDelRio]

Wow, sn598. You sure are immature as hell for someone who is apparently in the military. "If" I make it through basic? Well, since I have honestly been training for an infantry specific job for at least 3 years so far.... I guess I'll get my ass whooped.

I do not do nasty **** like that. Get your mind out of the gutter, "soldier". You are probably just the kid you describe in your posts.

Thanks, Trigger. I enjoy seeing people like you who understand English. Hooah!

Sua Sponte all I want, for that is how we win.

Hooah (in your face, you know who you are)

Thank you. woot

[96B]

Im in the USMC DEP and at my local recruiting office they have all the other branches there as well... To get to the point there is an Army dude who sometimes wears a sweatshirt with a big Ranger tab on it like the one in the links on an earlier post and is not even a Ranger. I do not know if he is planning on attending Ranger school or maybe he has earned the Ranger tab, but I know for a fact that he is not a Ranger.

Just food for thought....

Also, I agree that simply wearing a t-shirt demonstrates pride. I personally have two Force Reconnaissance shirts that I wear to school etc. I do not wear them when we go PT with the Marines though because I'd probably get some unwanted attention by the Gunny :lol:

[GiR|y-JeN]

Goodness my girlfriends and I used to date2/75 Rangers at Ft.Lewis I cant beleive yall are ranting about a Ranger T-shirt .Well let me tell ya we used to wear there Ranger T-shirts and we wore them proudly if you were seen wearing them you were in the elite group hell most of us had Ranger Scroll and a Ranger coin in our wallets :D FFS its just a T-Shirt

[Trigger]

.....whatever..... :roll:

[GiR|y-JeN]

OK Whats that suppose to mean ... I was stateing that not only Rangers wear Ranger T-Shirt's :lol:
Rangers lead the way

[TacoDelRio]

Hey, everyone just do what you want. It's what America is all about. woot

Hooah! p-)

[Light Fighter]

Those who say that wearing a patch or such just makes you a wannabe, well what about those that just wear camo jackets and or pants, does that make them a wannabe? I personally have many pices of camoflage from many countries. Brit DPMs, Flektarn, Tiger Stripe, 6 color, 3 color, woodland. Does that make me a wannabe? No. Who here has not at one point in time worn any type of camo? I guess to some that make us wannabes, and maybe so, but isnt the greatest form of flatery and respect imitation? As far as the whole patch thing and such, if you wear them to show respect then I dont see a problem, but if you are wearing a tan baret with Ranger insignia and patch then there is something wrong with you. As for the shirt situation, dont be ridiculus. Have you ever worn a sports jersey of some sort or a shirt with a logo? That dosnt mean you are affiliated with the item. The local recruiter and I constantly talk, hes a friend of the family, he gave me a hooded sweatshirt that says ARMY across it for my 33rd birthday. I was never in the army because of my damn back. Am I wannabe? I wear combat boots when my job takes me out of the office and into less then friendly grounds. I wear a 3 color bonnie hat when my work takes me out of the office and throws me in the burrning sun. Am I a wannabe? If so then o well.