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moughoun
05-31-2005, 11:24 AM
Globalist: Can fantastical France turn back the clock?
Roger Cohen International Herald Tribune

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 1, 2005
PARIS I was on a French television talk show the other night when Bernard Kouchner, the genial gadfly of French politics, made the modest suggestion that perhaps everyone could agree that the class struggle was over. "No," retorted Gérard Mordillat, a writer and film director, "the class struggle continues!"

Mordillat, an ardent supporter of the triumphant "Non" campaign against Europe's proposed constitution, was in good company. His brand of "gauchisme" is resurgent in France - the pseudo-utopian, capitalism-is-evil school of the left that appears either to have forgotten or be nostalgic for the Soviet empire.

The French rejection of the constitution owed something to the xenophobic right that does not hesitate to quote Fascists like Charles Maurras, but it was above all a victory of the left. Socialists voted no by a clear majority, joined by a motley crew of leftists with visions of the Paris Commune, a return of 1917 or 1968, the defeat of capitalism and - somehow - full employment.

The rhetoric of this revolutionary left, articulated most menacingly by the baby-faced Trotskyist and Neuilly postman, Olivier Besancenot, is suffused with idealism. But its real face is more prosaic and reflected in the polls that show that more than 65 percent of those who voted no think there are too many foreigners in France.

Whatever happened to the Communist International? This French left, behind its "progressive" slogans, is one that is generally closed to the world, bent on the defense of its privileges, suspicious of foreigners, small-minded and caught in an often hallucinatory time warp.

"The victory of the no was a victory of the fonctionnaire-rioter," said Alain Finkielkraut, the writer and philosopher. He was referring to the cohorts of state employees ready to take to the streets to defend the 35-hour work week and cradle-to-grave welfare that they saw threatened by a supposedly "neo-liberal" European constitution.

These fonctionnaire-rioters are big on talk of "fraternity." Their true face, however, was suggested recently by the outrage that met the government's suggestion that the traditional holiday on the day after Pentecost Sunday be given up to raise money for the elderly.

Such inconsistency, to put it kindly, does not prevent this class with its pseudo-revolutionary fellow travelers from defining the discourse of France, despite the existence of a parallel country that is industrious and competitive. As a result, political debate here often has a surreal quality.

It is only in France that "globalization" is still discussed with such earnestness, portrayed as something that could somehow be blocked or made to go away. Most other nations decided a decade ago that an open, technology-driven world was here to stay and the best course was to get with competing in it. But here the debate continues as if the clock could be turned back.

A similar fantastical quality is evident in the discussion of high unemployment, running at just over 10 percent or double the rate of Britain. For several years now, France and Germany have been in a deflationary cycle of almost Japanese proportions that has revealed a crisis of what was once known as Rhineland capitalism - market economies with high degrees of social protection.

Everyone knows the central nature of the problem: Systems that are too rigid, that encourage people to collect unemployment benefits while working in the cash-only underground economy and that are burdened with taxes making hiring prohibitively expensive and investment elsewhere attractive.

But instead of a serious debate on these issues, one that might have examined the European countries from Spain to Scandinavia that have slashed unemployment, France has been treated to a deluge of delusional nonsense from the left about the sufferings of the poor, precarious and persecuted in places like Britain, a country portrayed as having abandoned its welfare system altogether.

As a result, potential middle ground has been eroded and a fine word - liberal - has become unusable without the prefix "neo" and a dismissive sneer. Instead of debating alternatives, France has moved toward the culture of a "pensée unique" - a sole acceptable thought pattern whose lexicon is that of a left for whom the word "social" is the benign other face of a hated liberalism.

How has this been possible under a supposedly right-wing president, in office for a decade? The answer, as Alexander Adler, a political analyst put it, is that: "The conservative party in power has not done its job. Instead of trying to persuade people of the merits of market forces, it has tried to placate anti-market forces."

Whether that will continue under a new government is unclear. But what does seem clear is that France is increasingly isolated in its debate. The likely victory of the Christian Democrats in Germany in the autumn would only accentuate that isolation. Angela Merkel, the party leader, may not be Margaret Thatcher, but having spent most of her life in East Germany, she is impatient with talk of class struggle.

She also has little time for reflexive loathing of the United States as the source of all evil, a view central to the French "gauchisme" that never quite recovered from the end of the bi-polar world that came with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Stunned by what it has done in turning its back on the very Europe of which it has been the engine, France stands at a crossroads. In its center-left and center-right it has the forces to forge a political coalition unafraid of change, genuine debate and the world.

But it is also afflicted by a frustration, an introspection, a petty corporatism and a creeping xenophobia that, if unchecked, could unleash forces that recall the worst moments of its history. Glorious revolutionary slogans, après-moi-le-deluge inclinations and utopian visions should not mask this fact.

I believe France will return to the European fold. The very vigor of the discussion of the constitution suggests the country's vitality. But I am also convinced that the road to that embrace of Europe - and through it the real world - will be long and difficult.

E-mail: rcohen@iht.com


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pathfinder82
05-31-2005, 11:56 AM
One word to describe the French: Complicated.

moughoun
05-31-2005, 11:58 AM
One word to describe the French: Complicated.
I'm as Eurowussie as they come, but damn, what year are these people living in? :roll:

AROUETLJ
05-31-2005, 12:04 PM
2005

moughoun
05-31-2005, 12:09 PM
2005
I meant these, and I hate to use the term "communist's", because seriously it's not the same planet I'm on :|

roland
05-31-2005, 03:46 PM
good article.

now either a real right wing government break the unions and reform, the last hope for this option is Sarkozy, either we get a new Socialist government that, as usual, will do nothing and France will go bankrupt and will be forced to reform anyway.
In fact I don't really believe a change is possible before we go bankrupt. History shows that the French see the light only when in the dark. Then the change are almost always radical, violent if not bloody.
The good news is that then generally the work is done and well done for several generations. Then the cycle restart again.

Btw free market is NOT a Anglo Saxon thing. French phylosophers invented it in the same time as the English and Americans.

Bluezoo
05-31-2005, 03:47 PM
One word to describe the French: Complicated.

They are like the weather, they are fickle minded. :lol:

roland
05-31-2005, 04:16 PM
One word to describe the French: Complicated.

They are like the weather, they are fickle minded. :lol:

do you think we think you know them well ? No. So stick with googling, your opinion on that matter has no value,

Atlantic Friend
05-31-2005, 04:22 PM
One word to describe the French: Complicated.

Yep. And we kind of like it that way !

Bluezoo
05-31-2005, 04:40 PM
One word to describe the French: Complicated.

They are like the weather, they are fickle minded. :lol:

do you think we think you know them well ? No. So stick with googling, your opinion on that matter has no value,
"do you think we think" rofl

Cheers!

Kilgor
05-31-2005, 04:41 PM
Better make your minds up soon, eastern europe is already taking your jobs.

perdurabo
05-31-2005, 05:26 PM
Better make your minds up soon, eastern europe is already taking your jobs.
for every 1 job taken by central europeans there are 10 taken by chinese :bash:

@Roland relax mate all nations are stupid they wan't to have money and care without working we have in Poland something exactly same situation and if you ask german workers or italians or swedes or any other you will se exactly the same, moust of ppl belive in socialism even if they know that it is ineffective and brings economical crash.

thibaud
05-31-2005, 05:57 PM
Globalist: Can fantastical France turn back the clock?

why not

this journalist was lost with French talking about politics,all "coqs" fighting each other in the french "basse court".
like if the rest of Europe and the world doesn't exist.

but everybody looking at us(laughting or crying)

a dans 1 mois.

pathfinder82
05-31-2005, 07:20 PM
They recently had a travel expert on TV here, the woman interviewer asked how he would describe the people of some of the euorpean countries.

France: complicated

Germany: Achtung(I dont understand that one)

Italy: lovable chaos

Irish: lots of talk, lots of beer, lots of love.

Thats were I bit it from, the only reason I did is because I agree with it. I still dont understand the German thing though.