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MEGR
05-31-2005, 07:19 PM
http://www.gunsmokeenterprises.net/videos/GSE%20broadband%20Video.wmv

Hope this wasn't posted already.
onefast93z28
05-31-2005, 07:40 PM
Not bad for an M16/Ar15 series rifle, notice the heat distortion at the 15 minute mark on the video.
Dennis G
05-31-2005, 09:34 PM
Actually it’s not that impressive…
onefast93z28
05-31-2005, 09:44 PM
like I said not bad for an M16/M4, i'd take an M14 over and M16 anyday.
bishop1
05-31-2005, 10:16 PM
Was that for real? 1. It doesnt look like 30 casings coming out of there, and 2. Did he really empty a full Beta in less than 2 seconds? Maybe Im wrong, but it didnt seem like he was really firing that much.

Also, what is that, some knock off airsoft vest?
Blarney
05-31-2005, 11:32 PM
very nice looking gun, I think they switched out guns though after he dropped the gun in the water
American Patriot
05-31-2005, 11:37 PM
There was a cut after throwing it in the water the first time

/me puts on tin foil hat
bigjeff
06-01-2005, 04:03 AM
Poor of the ar-15.
triath
06-01-2005, 04:54 AM
Was that for real? 1. It doesnt look like 30 casings coming out of there, and 2. Did he really empty a full Beta in less than 2 seconds? Maybe Im wrong, but it didnt seem like he was really firing that much.

Also, what is that, some knock off airsoft vest?
The sound doesn't sound very good, mainly because the reverb and echo's. But if you watch all the brass flying around while he does it - it does look like he emptied it.
Beinlausen
06-01-2005, 07:30 AM
how bout that :D

does any one have videos of AR15 maintenance?
TuNeRsHaRk
06-01-2005, 06:07 PM
Heyy those guys were at the gun show saturday they were showing this video there they had a whole section with a bunch of AR ****
ridenrain
06-01-2005, 06:43 PM
What I wanted to know was how many times the cameraman got nailed with hot brass. They could have also used something technical, like a notpad, to keep track of magazines.
Good video anyways and I'm sure the gun is now for sale in a used rack somewhere.
MEGR
06-01-2005, 08:25 PM
My AR hasn't failed me once. It isn't the most reliable system, but it is a very good all-around rifle. Now if only they could make a consistantly good magazine like HK did.
soma
06-01-2005, 09:48 PM
What I wanted to know was how many times the cameraman got nailed with hot brass. They could have also used something technical, like a notpad, to keep track of magazines.
Good video anyways and I'm sure the gun is now for sale in a used rack somewhere.

Or the ability to count. After the 3rd magazine is spent ... "that's 60 rounds".
dacanadianbomb
06-01-2005, 10:11 PM
lol,yeah , I was sitting there thinking the same.
That whole if I talk to the monitor he might hear me thing.
" no chief that 3rd mag your pulling out in there isnt your 60th round "

But hey it was still a nice vid to watch.
Seraphim
06-01-2005, 10:29 PM
Actually it’s not that impressive…

Yeah, that guy is a tool "do this to your gun!" :roll:
American Patriot
06-01-2005, 10:33 PM
Most salesmen are tools
MEGR
06-01-2005, 10:39 PM
:lol: I know the guy is lame, but I was still impressed by the AR's durability. Also, that was the only torture video I could find. Please post any other related videos.
SPQR
06-02-2005, 06:06 PM
No AR15/M16 can stand up to this kind of abuse:

http://grenadierprecision.com/oldirty.html
MEGR
06-02-2005, 08:51 PM
Well, since this thread has taken a turn for the worse, just post whatever weapon's torture you want...
soma
06-02-2005, 09:52 PM
I have videos of potato chips.
bishop1
06-02-2005, 10:06 PM
No AR15/M16 can stand up to this kind of abuse:

http://grenadierprecision.com/oldirty.html

Thats pretty crazy, I love FAL rifles
cbreedon
06-03-2005, 01:19 AM
No AR15/M16 can stand up to this kind of abuse:

http://grenadierprecision.com/oldirty.html

Thats pretty crazy, I love FAL rifles

Walk in the park for AK/Galil/Valmet series rifles.
bishop1
06-03-2005, 02:10 AM
Yeah, Im working on getting a Vortec Arms AK
cbreedon
06-03-2005, 02:12 AM
No AR15/M16 can stand up to this kind of abuse:

http://grenadierprecision.com/oldirty.html

Thats pretty crazy, I love FAL rifles

Walk in the park for AK/Galil/Valmet series rifles.

I've got AK101 and a Galil..... They are nice
soma
06-04-2005, 01:54 AM
I have videos of potato chips.
Khabbi
06-04-2005, 01:30 PM
I have videos of potato chips.


I dont belive u , post it
11F5S
06-04-2005, 03:24 PM
like I said not bad for an M16/M4, i'd take an M14 over and M16 anyday.

You wouldn't be saying that if you had to tote one around the jungles of SEA.
Roaming East
06-05-2005, 06:38 AM
actually, with the rate of failures the 16's had in Nam i would be glad to carry the extra weight of a rifle i know for damn sure will fire when i needs it to
11F5S
06-05-2005, 09:54 PM
actually, with the rate of failures the 16's had in Nam i would be glad to carry the extra weight of a rifle i know for damn sure will fire when i needs it to

I never had a problem with either the 16 or the CAR-15.
MEGR
06-05-2005, 10:20 PM
actually, with the rate of failures the 16's had in Nam i would be glad to carry the extra weight of a rifle i know for damn sure will fire when i needs it to

By 1967, the problems were almost non-existant.

The M16 put out alot of firepower, it was lightweight, and you could carry more ammunition while patroling.

The M14 was rather heavy, had an uncontrollable auto-fire (that's what I've heard), and used heavy 7.62x51mm bullets.

In terms of knockdown power, the M14 with a heavier round wins; however, I hear the M16 was no slouch in severly wounding or killing an enemy soldier.
Macs.
06-05-2005, 10:31 PM
Video of several HK guns getting Tortured (Including G36)

http://www.kabeleins.de/php-bin/scripts/cvideo/cvideo.php?Waffenschmiede,,1,,333,,NULL,,redirect.streaming.szm.de/redirect/redirect.php?type=vod&codec=real&stream=K1/leben/al200704/waffenschmiede_320.rm,,1,,1
Roaming East
06-06-2005, 07:30 AM
Im not even going to go into the REAMS of personal reports, AAR, and high level interviews that gutted the reliability of early M16's the A1 version apparently DID greatly improve the reliability of the weapon but from what i heard the 16's that were there BEFORE the A1's entered the picture didnt exactly disappear and new ones replace them. apparently it wasnt uncommon for the orig. 16's to still be soldiering around well into the early 70's
SimpleSimon
06-10-2005, 10:07 PM
Much of the M16's original lack of reliability was due to improper training. Soldiers had misconceptions about maintenance, etc.

Although, I'm sure an AK would out torture test any AR. I own both. Tolerances on the ARs are very close compared the their AK counterparts. I think this is common knowledge.
BeltFedLMG
06-11-2005, 10:04 PM
from experience, one of the 16 series "downfall" is not so much the gas system but the magazines -