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EvanL
12-24-2003, 12:07 PM
Mission could be extended: Troops might become enforcers of peace, not monitors

Matthew Fisher
CanWest News Service


December 24, 2003



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KABUL - Canada's top general in Afghanistan has told his troops their mission might change from monitoring the peace to enforcing it as terrorists attack "soft targets."

Major-General Andrew Leslie, deputy commander of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force, also said the NATO mission in Afghanistan would extend for five, perhaps 10 years, and Canada's commitment might last longer than the original one-year mission.

"The government's never said that we're pulling out in August," he said. "They just said that, hey, we promise you 2,000 people for a year."

Maj.-Gen. Leslie told his Canadian troops yesterday the role of soldiers could change from monitoring the peace by patrolling the streets in Kabul to enforcing it.

"Taliban, al-Qaeda and HIG (Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin) are now targeting the soft targets ... schoolchildren, lightly armed police forces," he said.

"A bunch of us think that this may be desperation measures on their part."

In his first interview since returning from several weeks in Canada, Maj.-Gen. Leslie offered the opinion that Osama bin Laden, who is once again the world's most wanted fugitive, was alive.

"I believe Osama bin Laden is somewhere along Afghanistan's northeastern border with Pakistan," the General said. "I just don't know in which country. The desire to get him remains constant."

U.S. soldiers and Marines will soon begin to protect Provincial Reconstruction Teams from attack across a wide swath of southeastern Afghanistan, where the Taliban still reign supreme. For more than a year, U.S. forces in Afghanistan have mostly only deployed from their bases in Kandahar and near Kabul on missions against specific Taliban and al-Qaeda targets.

Protecting PRT's and getting troops to move out of Kabul has been a top priority of ISAF, NATO and the Pentagon for many months, but until now only the German army has actually done so.

"This [new U.S.] strategy is bang-on," Maj.-Gen. Leslie said. "It's the maturation of a policy. The hunt to kill al-Qaeda and the Taliban continues. But the U.S. will be setting up safe havens where the UN and other organizations can work."

The U.S. move to protect "PRTs in the disaffected south may well entice other countries to step up to the plate," the General said.

Canada's own commitment to ISAF ends in August, but having invested hundreds of millions of dollars in bases here, it is widely expected in Kabul that Ottawa will announce by this April that it intends to continue being a major military player in Afghanistan. One of its new duties will likely be to protect at least one PRT.

"There is no change in policy yet," Maj.-Gen. Leslie said. "We remain very focused on doing all we can to keep or improve the current security situation in Kabul and to prepare for the transfer of 2,000 fresh [Canadian] troops in late January.

"What Canada's contribution looks like post-August, 2004, I don't know. I do know we are working hard to get other countries involved. If every country in NATO contributed to Afghanis-tan what Canada has, it would go a long way toward making [ISAF] a more effective force."

As it is, ISAF has had its hands full keeping the peace in Kabul. With the constitutional Loya Jirga, or Grand Assembly, now entering its second week, there are almost daily rocket attacks around Kabul.

"I saw two rockets go off and heard two more myself," while out on patrol on Saturday night, Maj.-Gen. Leslie said. "There are more attacks now than there were last month."

stuntman
12-24-2003, 12:23 PM
Finnally Canada gets to kick some Ass!
Dam war mongaring Canadians!!! lol

Maverick77
12-24-2003, 01:08 PM
Figured that was comin

11k or so Americans is not enough to cover that entire country.

even with the Afghan Army.

Minjin
12-24-2003, 02:07 PM
Glad to see our boys and girls stepping up to the plate.

Vance
12-24-2003, 02:07 PM
Tis about time. :|

[AFSOC]
12-24-2003, 03:01 PM
Uh...

They've been there since the begining....

The 3PPCLI were there in a combative role

Vance
12-24-2003, 03:29 PM
But recently they've just been walking around Kabul. Most of the regulars, I mean.

EvanL
12-24-2003, 03:50 PM
But recently they've just been walking around Kabul. Most of the regulars, I mean.
Yeh well its more than you have been doing. Plus its essential to the stabilisation of Afghanistan as a country. Now they will start to branch out and be even more of an asset to the country. And the walking around Kabul that they are doing, isnt just walking for fun. Its keeping a prescence in the streets so that it doesnt get ****ed up again.

Vance
12-24-2003, 03:53 PM
But recently they've just been walking around Kabul. Most of the regulars, I mean.
Yeh well its more than you have been doing.
That's not what I've been hearing. But whatever.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-24-2003, 04:10 PM
Well Vance if its not what you heard then feel free to enlighten us with your knowledge, this(new strategy) should have been done along time ago as far as im concerned. Canadian soldiers are a tough bunch of dudes, I'm glad they are now doing what they do best KICK ASS woot woot woot

96B
12-24-2003, 04:16 PM
All they really would have to do is send some hockey players over there and the terrorist problem would be solved...

Honored to have the canucks fighting with us :hug:

Vance
12-24-2003, 04:21 PM
The U.S. launched a major offensive against the Taliban very recentley. Feel free to enlighten me on what the Canadians have been doing in the mean time?


PS - Don't get hostile, I'm just asking a question

EvanL
12-24-2003, 04:24 PM
But recently they've just been walking around Kabul. Most of the regulars, I mean.
Yeh well its more than you have been doing.
That's not what I've been hearing. But whatever.
I was referring to you. Not americans. ;)

Vance
12-24-2003, 04:28 PM
Bah, then you have a point. ;)

[AFSOC]
12-24-2003, 05:13 PM
PWNT!!

Vance
12-24-2003, 05:30 PM
[JTF-2][]PWNT!!
Yes...I was....I am awestruck as well.

EvanL
12-24-2003, 09:53 PM
[JTF-2][]PWNT!!
Yes...I was....I am awestruck as well.
As you should be. Happy Holidays.

NcDeuce
12-26-2003, 12:03 AM
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http://www.angelfire.com/celeb/richarddawson8/images/1546.jpg

;)

[AFSOC]
12-26-2003, 05:50 PM
Is that a good movie??

Maverick77
12-26-2003, 06:02 PM
is it ever

aFgHaNibOi
12-26-2003, 06:42 PM
Saw a related story on CBC, I also saw the end of the year interview with the New Prime Minister of Canada, in the National. Canadians...good people :hug: ...

Insha'Allah, we've seen the last of those blasted Talibs and foreigners...

Vance
12-26-2003, 06:48 PM
Americans are not good people? :(

Maverick77
12-26-2003, 08:31 PM
just cause he doesnt mention Americans

you gotta say somethin


****..........

Vance
12-26-2003, 09:54 PM
**** you too, asswank. Mind your own damned business.

SFontaine
12-26-2003, 11:14 PM
I'm pretty sure he was joking.
**** some of you Canadians give Canadians like me a bad name.

aFgHaNibOi
12-27-2003, 01:36 AM
Americans are not good people? :(

No no, that's not what I was implying. Sorry. Here's my post to another topic, I hope it clears things up. ;)



[as well as all the other nations whom are currently in Afghanistan :hug: May God help you all :roll: (with your noble cuase that is :) )]...

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-27-2003, 02:13 AM
Everyone please remain seated with your dinks in your pants. (both canadians and americans)
We both are working towards the common goal, keeping Afghanistan safe and making sure all the terrorist pole smokers get whats coming to them. woot

P.s. good to see you afghaniboi...its been long time no see...happy holidays dude. :hug:

aFgHaNibOi
12-27-2003, 03:33 AM
Everyone please remain seated with your dinks in your pants. (both canadians and americans)
We both are working towards the common goal, keeping Afghanistan safe and making sure all the terrorist pole smokers get whats coming to them. woot

P.s. good to see you afghaniboi...its been long time no see...happy holidays dude. :hug:

Thanks man, I don't know what happened. :oops: I missed you guys. Happy Holidays to you too [as well as everybody else ;)] and since Christmas passed, Happy New Year. :D