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Vance
12-26-2003, 10:45 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/26/iran.quake/index.html


TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Iran has appealed for international aid as the death toll from a devastating earthquake climbed to 4,000 and officials warned that thousands more are likely to be found dead.

At least 30,000 people have been injured in the quake in southeastern Iran, local officials said.

The Iranian government said as many as 20,000 people may have died in the quake, which was centered near the ancient city of Bam about 610 miles (975 km) southeast of the capital, Tehran.

The quake struck at 5:27 a.m. Friday (8:57 p.m. ET Thursday) as people were sleeping.

"I have lost all my family. My parents, my grandmother and two sisters are under the rubble," a 17-year-old girl told *******.

State media said two of Bam's hospitals had collapsed, leaving many of the staff injured. The remaining hospitals are reportedly full and rescuers were attempting to transported the wounded to neighboring towns.

The government requested international assistance, asking for sniffer dogs to help find the thousands feared trapped in the ruins.

"The situation in Bam is worrying. The scale of the damage and deaths is widespread and the number of victims is high," Mohammad Ali Karimi, the governor general of Kerman province, told Iran's official Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA).

He said 60 percent of the city's residential areas have been destroyed. Bam has a population of about 80,000 people.

Tehran University's Geophysics Institute said the earthquake measured a magnitude of 6.3, according to IRNA. It was followed by several aftershocks, including one measuring 5.3.

For its part, the U.S. Geological Survey's National Earthquake Information Center measured the magnitude of the quake at 6.7

"The historic quarter of the city has been completely destroyed and caused great human loss," Nour Bakhsh with Iran's Red Crescent relief agency told IRNA.

A legislator for Kerman province, Hasan Khoshrou, told The Associated Press people on the scene said the devastation was "beyond imagination."

Adding to the crisis, both of the hospitals in Bam were destroyed in the earthquake, forcing people to seek medical attention in the provincial capital of Kerman. Private vehicles have been banned from the roads to make room for emergency traffic.

"We have no exact information about the scale of the damage since all telephone communications with the cities of Bam, Jiroft and Kohnouj had been cut off," Karimi said.


Mostafa Mohaghegh, another Red Crescent official, told CNN that rescuers were busy providing food, shelter and medicine to those injured in the quake.

"The state of the damages is very wide in the city so we are yet to identify the total number of those who have died and also the injured."

In explaining the severity of the damage to the city, journalist Shirzad Bozorgmehr in Tehran said Bam is an ancient city not designed to withstand a major earthquake. He said army search and rescue teams have been mobilized to the area.

Meanwhile, Russia and Germany have so far offered to help Iran in the rescue operations.

Russian Emergency Situations Ministry spokeswoman Marina Ryklina said that two Il-76 transport aircraft with rescue workers and equipment were to leave for Iran later Friday, AP reported.

Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer sent a telegram to his Iranian counterpart Kamal Kharrazi offering support.

"Germany is ready to do everything in its powers to contribute to recovering and rescuing people in the earthquake region,'' Fischer wrote.

German President Johannes Rau sent a letter of condolence to Iran's President Mohammad Khatami, and also offered German assistance, ******* reported.

"I assure you that Germany is ready to support your nation in overcoming the material damages,'' Rau wrote.

An earthquake in Iran? Weird.

NcDeuce
12-26-2003, 10:52 AM
:( to the innocent victims

woot to the dead terrorists and stuff

Haiw
12-26-2003, 10:54 AM
RIP :|

usa320
12-26-2003, 10:59 AM
RIP.

It should be noted that to some degree though they put themselves in a more vunerable position by not building sound structures.

A 6.5 Earthquake hit California earlier this weak and no one was killed, yet a 6.3 hitting Iran kills 10,000.

Kriz
12-26-2003, 11:00 AM
They must have dome something to piss Allah off :)

NcDeuce
12-26-2003, 11:00 AM
RIP.

It should be noted that to some degree though they put themselves in a more vunerable position by not building sound structures.

A 6.5 Earthquake hit California earlier this weak and no one was killed, yet a 6.3 hitting Iran kills 10,000.

Good point

Mr. Nielsen
12-26-2003, 11:02 AM
An earthquake in Iran? Weird.

It's not the first time:


Major earthquakes are not uncommon in Iran, which lies on a major seismic line. Moderate tremors are reported in various parts of the country almost daily.

Since 1990, more than 41,000 people have been killed in three major earthquakes. In the Qazvin area, a 1963 earthquake killed 12,225 people.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/06/22/world/main513105.shtml


It should be noted that to some degree though they put themselves in a more vunerable position by not building sound structures.

Yes, but I guess they just can't afford it.

Saranof
12-26-2003, 11:14 AM
The building in many poor countrys is often like this. The companys build shoddey houses, that are fine until something like this happens.
It's not that they can't build good houses, it's the lack of money.

20000? Dude, that's a lot of people... :(

Vance
12-26-2003, 11:15 AM
Hmm, I must of been misinformed. Never heard of an earthquake hitting Iran, much less the Middle East...

UoUo
12-26-2003, 11:17 AM
The building in many poor countrys is often like this. The companys build shoddey houses, that are fine until something like this happens.
It's not that they can't build good houses, it's the lack of money.

20000? Dude, that's a lot of people... :(

Iran is a poor country ?

Vance
12-26-2003, 11:17 AM
Maybe if the U.S. helps them out, it could lead to stronger ties between the two countries...maybe.

Saranof
12-26-2003, 11:20 AM
The building in many poor countrys is often like this. The companys build shoddey houses, that are fine until something like this happens.
It's not that they can't build good houses, it's the lack of money.

20000? Dude, that's a lot of people... :(

Iran is a poor country ?

Oh yeah.

As vance said, if the US helps out, maybe it could lead to stronger bonds between nations, and they may step down on their nuclear program?

UoUo
12-26-2003, 11:30 AM
The building in many poor countrys is often like this. The companys build shoddey houses, that are fine until something like this happens.
It's not that they can't build good houses, it's the lack of money.

20000? Dude, that's a lot of people... :(

Iran is a poor country ?

Oh yeah.

As vance said, if the US helps out, maybe it could lead to stronger bonds between nations, and they may step down on their nuclear program?

They spend 10 billion over thir' army....every year...to much for a poor country...

duck
12-26-2003, 11:31 AM
Corruption is rife in countries like Iran and building regulations can be ignored if the right amount of cash changes hands.

Mr. Nielsen
12-26-2003, 11:52 AM
UoUo wrote:
Saranof wrote:
The building in many poor countrys is often like this. The companys build shoddey houses, that are fine until something like this happens.
It's not that they can't build good houses, it's the lack of money.

20000? Dude, that's a lot of people...


Iran is a poor country ?


Oh yeah.

Depends on who you compare with:

Country GDP Population GDP/Pop
Iran $458.3 billion 68.3 mio $6.712
Israel $117.4 billion 6.1 mio $19.194
Denmark $155.3 billion 5.4 mio $28.843
Yemen $15.1 billion 19.3 mio $779


http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html

UoUo
12-26-2003, 12:27 PM
UoUo wrote:
Saranof wrote:
The building in many poor countrys is often like this. The companys build shoddey houses, that are fine until something like this happens.
It's not that they can't build good houses, it's the lack of money.

20000? Dude, that's a lot of people...


Iran is a poor country ?


Oh yeah.

Depends on who you compare with:

Country GDP Population GDP/Pop
Iran $458.3 billion 68.3 mio $6.712
Israel $117.4 billion 61.1 mio $19.194
Denmark $155.3 billion 5.4 mio $28.843
Yemen $15.1 billion 19.3 mio $779


http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html

Israel and dennemark are much much more advanced countries then iran.

BTW : sense when israel have population of 61.1 million people ?

Argyll
12-26-2003, 12:33 PM
IIRC a large earthquake hit Iran some years ago killing 10's of 1000's as well 50000 rings a bell or something like that!

gunner
12-26-2003, 12:39 PM
Maybe if the U.S. helps them out, it could lead to stronger ties between the two countries...maybe

We've allways sent aid to them before. hasnt made much of a difference has it?

Saranof
12-26-2003, 12:41 PM
Maybe if the U.S. helps them out, it could lead to stronger ties between the two countries...maybe

We've allways sent aid to them before. hasnt made much of a difference has it?


Oh but it has.

Aid in the form of organisations, yes, they have sent alot. But if the govenment sends aid, than Iran be in debt to the aid givers, in political matters.

Argyll
12-26-2003, 12:52 PM
I looked up the 1997 Quake,not 10's of thousands Killed,but 50000 were "displaced",2000 were killed
If you look at the Historical data regarding Iranian quakes it makes for some interesting reading,cretainly a Region that has suffered enormously in its existance!!

kinghk
12-26-2003, 12:58 PM
It should be noted that to some degree though they put themselves in a more vunerable position by not building sound structures.

A 6.5 Earthquake hit California earlier this weak and no one was killed, yet a 6.3 hitting Iran kills 10,000.

Parts of the city were 2000 years old. Earthquake protection were not an issue those days.

He219
12-26-2003, 03:04 PM
Two people were killed in the California earthquake a few days ago. RIP to those who have died here and the countless in Iran.

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The medieval fortress as well as most of the 2,000 year-old city of Bam was constructed of mud-brick. It has escaped the epicenters of earthquakes over the milenia - until now.

The majority of the world does not build for seismic resistivity, even though the crust of this planet floats at the surface of liquid magma. In under-developed nations, economic prioritization largely dictates concrete, masonry and stone/earthen construction as the materials of choice. Concrete, masonry and mud are also a great thermal mass for insulting characteristics and they provide fire-resistivity. Reinforcing those types of materials in construction is largely ignored. Simple techniqes could be employed on newer construction projects, given a desire to do so. People generally choose to ignore seismic hazards given the rate of return for catastrophic activity.

The Romans pioneered reinforced concrete construction using bamboo, wood and steel imbedded in early cast-in-place concrete. The Pantheon in Rome and Justinian's Baths in the Roman Agora are examples of Roman Concrete innovation. They even developed concrete that cures underwater, for building harbors and breakwaters. The technology was lost over the Dark Ages and left until re-invented around 1871.

The technology has been there for centuries. It can be easily implemented using cost-effective Reinforcing Steel - given the determination to do so. Lighter types of construction reduces the mass that amplifies seismic energy, such as timber construction or Structural Steel Framed Buildings. They are either too expensive in the developing world or utilize scarce resources where indigenous materials are preferred for their obvious economic benefits.

papasmerf
12-26-2003, 05:54 PM
RIP.

stuntman
12-27-2003, 05:33 AM
Suxs for them!

S'13
12-27-2003, 05:54 AM
Israel has offered to send aid, Iran's government rejected the offer saying it "will accept help from any nation except for the Zionist entity" this statement came from the Iranian Ministry of the Interior. It's sad to see how the leaders blind hate to Israel is much stronger then their peoples well being...

Ichhabe
12-27-2003, 11:59 AM
RIP.

It should be noted that to some degree though they put themselves in a more vunerable position by not building sound structures.

A 6.5 Earthquake hit California earlier this weak and no one was killed, yet a 6.3 hitting Iran kills 10,000.

I put that statement next to the statement of Marie Antionette when she saw the women protesting outside the royal palace. "Why are they shouting?" "Cause they have no bread my lady" was the answer she got. Then the famous reply felled: "If they don't have any bread, why don't they eat cookies?!?!"

Loco
12-27-2003, 12:32 PM
All this region suffers of earthquakes periodically. The last one I remember in this area was 1 year ago, in Afghanistan, just after taliban government was expelled, and few years ago between Armenia and Azerbaijan, close to northern Iran border, was another big earthquake it caused thousands of victims.
BTW, I think itīs a question of being "well born" or similar, I donīt know how to call it, perhaps itīs simply having class or being a good person: Nobody must use a misfortune in a whole country for making stupid jokes or being funny or thinking oneself is funny and puking over others his mosts repugnants prejudices. 20.000 deads, too many.