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papasmerf
12-26-2003, 01:04 PM
Anyone here ever jumped with a tandem instructor? What's it like? I'm doing it february next year, gonna be pretty scary p-)

Deuterium
12-26-2003, 01:57 PM
No offense but don't fly "bitch". Go through AFF. Its the quickest way to get qualified. It will also answer any questions you have after one jump. You also don't have the stigma of having someone throw your ass out and do EVERYTHING on the first jump. Just my .02.

http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/airborne/freefall-cloth.jpg

http://www.compilots.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10002/normal_in%20life.JPG

California Joe
12-26-2003, 02:04 PM
Plus it looks really gay, like two man luge.

He219
12-26-2003, 03:28 PM
Hey, I did a tandem jump as an intro. to skydiving. I was about ten inches taller than my instructor and landed first. The two-man canopy is like flying a Mack truck....
;)

If you enjoy the sensation of free-falling, take up an Accellerated Freefall program. You will already have experienced your first (tandem) jump and will be better able to focus on techniques for maneuvering - part each successive jump.

If you know you wish to become licensed, save the money and do the AFF program...

More info. Here (http://www.aawest.com/faq.html#training)..

Have fun!
:D

California Joe
12-26-2003, 03:34 PM
I jumped off a 70 meter hill at Lake Placid before. I don't need no stinking parachute.....

Haiw
12-26-2003, 03:53 PM
Yup...real men don't need no parachutes. Parachutes are for wussies and metro******s.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-26-2003, 05:36 PM
Ya I've jump off of many high places mind you there was water were i was landing...bridges tressels and train tracks are all fun stuff especially when the cops come woot rofl

Haiw
12-26-2003, 05:40 PM
Jumping on concrete rocks...

papasmerf
12-26-2003, 05:44 PM
1. "Lieutenant I. M. Chisov of the former Soviet Union was flying his Ilyushin 4 on a bitter cold day in January 1942, when it was attacked by 12 German Messerschmitts. Convinced that he had no chance of surviving if he staged with his badly battered plane, Chisov bailed out at 21,980 feet. With the fighters still buzzing around, Chisov cleverly decided to fall freely out of the arena. It was his plan not to open his chute until he was down to only 1000 ft above the ground. Unfortunately, he lost consciousness en route. As luck would have it, he crashed at the edge of a steep ravine covered with 3 ft of snow. Hitting at about 120 mi/h, he plowed along its slope until he came to rest at the bottom. Chisov awoke 20 min later, bruised and sore, but miraclously he had suffered only a concussion of the spine and a fractured pelvis. Three and one-half months later he was back at work as a flight instructor." Hecht, Eugene. Physics: Calculus. 2nd ed. United States: Brooks/Cole, 2000. p 85

2. Flight Sergeant Nicholas Steven Alkemade was on a bombing mission over Germany on 23 March 1944 when his Lancaster bomber flying at 18,000 feet was blazed apart and in flames when he was forced to jump, without a parachute or be burn to death. He dove out of his destroyed aircraft hoping on a quick death. His speed accelerated to over 120 miles per hour and he impacted on a snow covered sloping forest. He was completely uninjured and later captured by the Germans who refused to believe his story. (www.urbanlegends.com/death)


woot

papasmerf
12-26-2003, 05:45 PM
Hey, I did a tandem jump as an intro. to skydiving. I was about ten inches taller than my instructor and landed first. The two-man canopy is like flying a Mack truck....
;)

If you enjoy the sensation of free-falling, take up an Accellerated Freefall program. You will already have experienced your first (tandem) jump and will be better able to focus on techniques for maneuvering - part each successive jump.

If you know you wish to become licensed, save the money and do the AFF program...

More info. Here (http://www.aawest.com/faq.html#training)..

Have fun!
:D

Thanks p-)

Deuterium
12-26-2003, 05:53 PM
1. "Lieutenant I. M. Chisov of the former Soviet Union was flying his Ilyushin 4 on a bitter cold day in January 1942, when it was attacked by 12 German Messerschmitts. Convinced that he had no chance of surviving if he staged with his badly battered plane, Chisov bailed out at 21,980 feet. With the fighters still buzzing around, Chisov cleverly decided to fall freely out of the arena. It was his plan not to open his chute until he was down to only 1000 ft above the ground. Unfortunately, he lost consciousness en route. As luck would have it, he crashed at the edge of a steep ravine covered with 3 ft of snow. Hitting at about 120 mi/h, he plowed along its slope until he came to rest at the bottom. Chisov awoke 20 min later, bruised and sore, but miraclously he had suffered only a concussion of the spine and a fractured pelvis. Three and one-half months later he was back at work as a flight instructor." Hecht, Eugene. Physics: Calculus. 2nd ed. United States: Brooks/Cole, 2000. p 85

2. Flight Sergeant Nicholas Steven Alkemade was on a bombing mission over Germany on 23 March 1944 when his Lancaster bomber flying at 18,000 feet was blazed apart and in flames when he was forced to jump, without a parachute or be burn to death. He dove out of his destroyed aircraft hoping on a quick death. His speed accelerated to over 120 miles per hour and he impacted on a snow covered sloping forest. He was completely uninjured and later captured by the Germans who refused to believe his story. (www.urbanlegends.com/death)


woot

HANO.....Not a prefered technique.. Makes for great press though.

Dmitri
12-26-2003, 06:03 PM
Question for experienced jumpers: What is the average rate of the military parachute (standard) not opening? How many deaths per 1000 men usually occur? I was always interested in that, but never found any official military stats. Thanks

papasmerf
12-26-2003, 06:40 PM
Question for experienced jumpers: What is the average rate of the military parachute (standard) not opening? How many deaths per 1000 men usually occur? I was always interested in that, but never found any official military stats. Thanks


My school teacher served in the Army for 8 years.. he jumped a lot, I asked him the same question, he said no deaths that he knew of, mostly just broken ankles.

Deuterium
12-26-2003, 06:48 PM
Question for experienced jumpers: What is the average rate of the military parachute (standard) not opening? How many deaths per 1000 men usually occur? I was always interested in that, but never found any official military stats. Thanks

Good question. Here is what I found....


Army Safety Center

During FY 2000, there were thousands of tactical parachute jumps made across the Army. Of those, there were 199 accidents reported to the Army Safety Center——6 resulted in fatalities. Two fatalities were a result of broken static lines, two were military freefall, one was a Modified Improved Reserve Parachute System (MIRPS) extraction, and the last one was a paratrooper who fell from a 34-foot tower while training exit procedures.



Anecdotaly I would suggest its EXTREMELY low for static-line and statistically mentionable for HALO. I've been on jump status for 21 years. In that time I know of only a handful (less than 5) deaths due to malfunction in staticline and the same with freefall. Add into the equation jumper error (entanglement, faulty EP, downwind landings, altitude awareness) then the numbers go up. Injuries are COMMON. Fatalities are rare. The last death I'm aware of was at the freefall school, a Marine tumble-bunny RIP.

papasmerf
12-26-2003, 07:06 PM
Question for experienced jumpers: What is the average rate of the military parachute (standard) not opening? How many deaths per 1000 men usually occur? I was always interested in that, but never found any official military stats. Thanks

Good question. Here is what I found....


Army Safety Center

During FY 2000, there were thousands of tactical parachute jumps made across the Army. Of those, there were 199 accidents reported to the Army Safety Center——6 resulted in fatalities. Two fatalities were a result of broken static lines, two were military freefall, one was a Modified Improved Reserve Parachute System (MIRPS) extraction, and the last one was a paratrooper who fell from a 34-foot tower while training exit procedures.



Anecdotaly I would suggest its EXTREMELY low for static-line and statistically mentionable for HALO. I've been on jump status for 21 years. In that time I know of only a handful (less than 5) deaths due to malfunction in staticline and the same with freefall. Add into the equation jumper error (entanglement, faulty EP, downwind landings, altitude awareness) then the numbers go up. Injuries are COMMON. Fatalities are rare. The last death I'm aware of was at the freefall school, a Marine tumble-bunny RIP.

Thanks for the info D

Dmitri
12-26-2003, 07:14 PM
Thanks
My friend from 82nd said he had 3 deaths in his airborne school, one of which was a navy SEAL who landed but then somehow got dragged by the parachute for a long distance.
Could you explain what a "cigarette roll" mean and why it happens?

papasmerf
12-26-2003, 07:26 PM
Thanks
My friend from 82nd said he had 3 deaths in his airborne school, one of which was a navy SEAL who landed but then somehow got dragged by the parachute for a long distance.
Could you explain what a "cigarette roll" mean and why it happens?


"Cigarette roll" is a parachute failure, it occurs when the chute comes out and doesn't open.

usa320
12-26-2003, 08:10 PM
lol at Deut...

HANO.

rofl

Tane Angle
12-26-2003, 09:05 PM
3 deaths in one class? Jeez. RIP.

Deaths per jumps (as opposed to deaths per number of jump-qualified people) is probably lower than 1 in every 10,000. Maybe even lower than that. It's a pretty safe thing, provided the parachute is in good order and that one is trained. Of course, there is an element of things that can't be controlled and that no one can really be blamed for.

By the way, to the base jumpers out there, how's that going for you? I have some friends who go off of bridges and cliffs and what not, they love it. It's technically illegal in some areas, no? Have a good one, just some thoughts...

IDFM203
12-26-2003, 10:56 PM
Whatever you do, don’t ask the instructors at the course as to the number of deaths, for your probably not going to get a correct answer. I mean it’s probably like with us when they gave us a figure in the jump course but I am sure the number is higher then what they gave. You know their numbers are as such as not to scare the living sh*t out of the first time jumpers ;) :D

ok now seriously, I am sure its like what Tane Angle says.

Oh and like what Deuterium said, there are a lot of injuries, especially in the jump course.(though mostly just light bruises and scrapes and a occasional knee bust out ;) )

On a side note, I have a funny (in a black humour way) story that was "passed down to me" that happened in Israel a few years ago..

On the last jump of the Paratrooping course which was a night jump, they invited the parents to come watch and then after near the LZ, there would be a ceramony where the soldiers would receive their wings.

Anyway’s this one soldier had this “bright idea” where he told his parents that right before he jumps he will pin on his shirt a glow stick so when he jumps, the parents can see their son coming down instead of seeing just a bunch of tiny specks with their chutes open and be able to point out where he is (also this was at night so the glow stick would be very clear to see)

So anyways the parents come and are waiting……..the son is on the plane and right before he jumps, he puts on that glow stick and jumps…………………..the second after he jumped, the glow stick somehow fell off of his shirt……………….now imagine the parents for a second….all they can see is a glow stick and they are assuming its their son and this one is dropping straight down to the ground, and then hitting the ground fast in seconds………….suffice to say that the soldier was safe up there simply gliding down slowly but the parents were panicking……..anyway’s afterwards the soldier walked up to the parents and every thing become clear but I am sure they needed a breather for a while after that.

Anyways just thought you folks would get a kick out of that story :D

P.S. to all the former soldiers that have jumped ….I would love to hear any personal jump stories or anything of that nature.


Shalom :D

Andyman
12-27-2003, 06:44 AM
I'll be jumping eventually but I'll have to get my SQ and MOC out of the way first

papasmerf
12-27-2003, 06:52 AM
Whatever you do, don’t ask the instructors at the course as to the number of deaths, for your probably not going to get a correct answer. I mean it’s probably like with us when they gave us a figure in the jump course but I am sure the number is higher then what they gave. You know their numbers are as such as not to scare the living sh*t out of the first time jumpers ;) :D

ok now seriously, I am sure its like what Tane Angle says.

Oh and like what Deuterium said, there are a lot of injuries, especially in the jump course.(though mostly just light bruises and scrapes and a occasional knee bust out ;) )

On a side note, I have a funny (in a black humour way) story that was "passed down to me" that happened in Israel a few years ago..

On the last jump of the Paratrooping course which was a night jump, they invited the parents to come watch and then after near the LZ, there would be a celebration where the soldiers would receive their wings.

Anyway’s this one soldier had this “bright idea” where he told his parents that right before he jumps he will pin on his shirt a glow stick so when he jumps, the parents can see their son coming down instead of seeing just a bunch of tiny specks with their chutes open and be able to point out where he is (also this was at night so the glow stick would be very clear to see)

So anyways the parents come and are waiting……..the son is on the plane and right before he jumps, he puts on that glow stick and jumps…………………..the second after he jumped, the glow stick somehow fell off of his shirt……………….now imagine the parents for a second….all they can see is a glow stick and they are assuming its their son and this one is dropping straight down to the ground, and then hitting the ground fast in seconds………….suffice to say that the soldier was safe up there simply gliding down slowly but the parents were panicking……..anyway’s afterwards the soldier walked up to the parents and every thing become clear but I am sure they needed a breather for a while after that.

Anyways just thought you folks would get a kick out of that story :D

P.S. to all the former soldiers that have jumped ….I would love to hear any personal jump stories or anything of that nature.


Shalom :D

LOL Great story, thanks for sharing bud p-)

ShotOver
12-27-2003, 11:45 AM
hahahaha, awesome story M203 :D

Deuterium
12-27-2003, 01:52 PM
A few pics for you guys.... The majority are from a re-qual in Brookeville, FL. The one with the banana suit is from HALO school. Its the only one I got of me in the air not under canopy.



http://users.adelphia.net/~jcbcpc/test/kit.jpg

http://users.adelphia.net/~jcbcpc/test/final.jpg

http://users.adelphia.net/~jcbcpc/test/team.jpg

http://users.adelphia.net/~jcbcpc/test/fly.jpg

Nizark
12-27-2003, 09:06 PM
i've done tandem a couple times. I have to tell you, its very strange compared to single's jumping. The wind currents are all weird, your overall weight is doubled and sometimes tripled, and landing is a major bitch unless wind conditions are perfect. For the 2 times i've tandemed, one was a perfect standing up landing, the other was the ass landing, either way, both times were a little unnerving...also my DZ was right next to a sheet shooting range, so it felt like i was jumping into Nazi germany with ****in flak guns all over. Overall, its cool as hell for a novice. If you have any questions, feel free to send me a message.

papasmerf
12-27-2003, 11:55 PM
I got a question for you guys that jumped. Was any of you scared of heights before you jumped? I think I'm a bit scared of heights... lol I don't know, I hate tall buildings, flying on a plane doesnt bother me, I wonder how I'll feel jumping out of the plane... should I not eat breakfast before I make a jump so I don't **** my pants from fear? :|

Upfrontreporting
12-28-2003, 03:07 PM
A month ago I was filming a SAR helicopter unit and while doing that, a senior pilot told me a story about a fellow pilot who were scared of heights. This pilot didn't like standing 2 meters above ground on a ladder fixing a lightbulb but when it came to flying a helicopter (sometimes during extreme and adverse conditions) he was like a fish in the water.

So I suppose it's just a matter of mental attitude and approach.

I haven't tried parachuting myself but would like to in the future.

martinexsquaddie
12-28-2003, 06:06 PM
jumping from planes its not really about being scared of heights
but I got kicked off my freefall course for playing chicken :lol:
with my mate so don't ask me about jumping.
had a mate in our freefall display team who done over a hundred jumps got talked into doing a military drop scared himself ****less

Nizark
12-29-2003, 01:25 AM
I wasn't really scared of heights before my jump, but I didn't like looking over the edge of tall buildings or cliffs. And hell, if the 13,000 doesn't break your fear of heights, nothing will. The plan I jumped from was about 5 feet wide and 30 feet long, cramped as hell with 5 other jumpers, and the door was ****in see-through. So as we were climbing we see the ground go away. My best idea to get you psyched up for the jump would be to play the loudest headbanging, glass shattering hard ass music you can find. Motorhead worked for me, as well as some AC/DC-Back In Black or....Highway To Hell :) Also the movie "Drop Zone" with wesley snipes is a good idea of what you will experience.

Good Luck Mate

Dmitri
01-01-2004, 10:31 PM
Question for the ones in know: when you finish airborne school, do you wear the wings right away or you have to make some jumps before you are pinned in the unit? And if the unit is airborne, how many jumps a year are you suppose to make to keep the airborne status? Does number of jumps affect if your unit wears the scroll or not?
Thanks

Deuterium
01-01-2004, 10:49 PM
Question for the ones in know: when you finish airborne school, do you wear the wings right away or you have to make some jumps before you are pinned in the unit? And if the unit is airborne, how many jumps a year are you suppose to make to keep the airborne status? Does number of jumps affect if your unit wears the scroll or not?
Thanks

For US units....

1. Yes you get pinned in Airborne School and then can wear the wings on your uniform regardless of assignment to an Airborne unit. Marines get a different pair of wings after a certain number of jumps. Jumpmaster wings, Senior and Master wings are awarded after completion of JM school and making the required number of jumps. Combat jumps get you a gold star on the wings for each combat jump.

2. You must make 4 jumps a year, one every 3 months to get parachute pay, $150 for staticline and $225 for HALO. During deployments or war this can be waved and you still get the pay. Generally most units jump WAY more than 4 times a year. For others with bad weather in the area getting 4 jumps a year can be a challenge.

3. Nope.

ibstolidude
01-01-2004, 11:50 PM
Question for the ones in know: when you finish airborne school, do you wear the wings right away or you have to make some jumps before you are pinned in the unit? And if the unit is airborne, how many jumps a year are you suppose to make to keep the airborne status? Does number of jumps affect if your unit wears the scroll or not?
Thanks

For US units.... <sic>

2. You must make 4 jumps a year, one every 3 months to get parachute pay, $150 for staticline and $225 for HALO. During deployments or war this can be waved and you still get the pay. Generally most units jump WAY more than 4 times a year. For others with bad weather in the area getting 4 jumps a year can be a challenge. <sic>
Unless you participate in HANO jumps for which you (or designated individual) can get a one time payment upto 250K.

ibstolidude
01-01-2004, 11:52 PM
[quote=Dmitri]Question for the ones in know: when you finish airborne school, do you wear the wings right away or you have to make some jumps before you are pinned in the unit? And if the unit is airborne, how many jumps a year are you suppose to make to keep the airborne status? Does number of jumps affect if your unit wears the scroll or not?
Thanks

For US units.... <sic>

2. You must make 4 jumps a year, one every 3 months to get parachute pay, $150 for staticline and $225 for HALO. During deployments or war this can be waved and you still get the pay. Generally most units jump WAY more than 4 times a year. For others with bad weather in the area getting 4 jumps a year can be a challenge. <sic>
Unless you participate in HANO jumps for which you (or designated individual) can get a one time payment upto 250K.

- Unless you are a NG/USAR soldier then the danger is less severe when you jump????????? so you get a prorated amount. :cantbeli:

Apogee
01-02-2004, 12:25 AM
My girl and I are gonna start sky diving this spring, as soon as it warms up. And I'll be doing jump school when I'm down at Benning for IOBC.

I can't wait though, jumping looks like a really good time.

WARPIG
01-02-2004, 09:32 AM
I'm scared of heights and had over 20 jumps in the year that I was at Ft. Bragg. Can't remember too many "good" landings though. Most GI's will tell you that a combat jump is not sky diving. Although most jumps are fairly safe and successful, the things that go wrong are unlimited. Ask anyone that has been "towed" how their nap was on the way down.

Two stories come to mind. One is how I got a challenge coin by landing on and destroying the canopy of a CSM's HWMMV. He was driving a cargo hummer around with some goodies for us when we completed our jump. Candy, cookies, coffee, etc. I dropped my ruck early because I landed with my combat load before. It hurts like hell. I saw the HWMMV too late and hit the driver's side corner of the cargo area and crushed the metal bows. As I tried to untangle from the risers and the plastic canopy of the truck I felt my chute catch air again and drag me over the passenger side of the HWMMV. Since my ruck was on the other side of the truck I ended up falling on my head with my ass and legs up in the air and the chute was pulling me up and down off the ground. I hit my nugget on the ground and the side of the hummer several times before I got that damn riser release to unstick! The CSM was lauging so hard he had tears in his eyes when he palmed the coin in my hand. Well, I scored a box of chocolate milk for my squad when I finally got my chute off the truck.
The other story is pretty long. But I'll tell you a cigarette roll is no fun! That was the second time I landed with my rucksack attatched. I will save that story for later.
The various jumps with the 82nd helped me control my fear of heights.. save the last one. The cigarette roll incident sort of renewed my fear of heights.. or fear of falling. The thing is, the falling part is no big deal..it's that sudden stop at the end that hurts like a muther!

papasmerf
01-02-2004, 01:14 PM
I'm scared of heights and had over 20 jumps in the year that I was at Ft. Bragg. Can't remember too many "good" landings though. Most GI's will tell you that a combat jump is not sky diving. Although most jumps are fairly safe and successful, the things that go wrong are unlimited. Ask anyone that has been "towed" how their nap was on the way down.

Two stories come to mind. One is how I got a challenge coin by landing on and destroying the canopy of a CSM's HWMMV. He was driving a cargo hummer around with some goodies for us when we completed our jump. Candy, cookies, coffee, etc. I dropped my ruck early because I landed with my combat load before. It hurts like hell. I saw the HWMMV too late and hit the driver's side corner of the cargo area and crushed the metal bows. As I tried to untangle from the risers and the plastic canopy of the truck I felt my chute catch air again and drag me over the passenger side of the HWMMV. Since my ruck was on the other side of the truck I ended up falling on my head with my ass and legs up in the air and the chute was pulling me up and down off the ground. I hit my nugget on the ground and the side of the hummer several times before I got that damn riser release to unstick! The CSM was lauging so hard he had tears in his eyes when he palmed the coin in my hand. Well, I scored a box of chocolate milk for my squad when I finally got my chute off the truck.
The other story is pretty long. But I'll tell you a cigarette roll is no fun! That was the second time I landed with my rucksack attatched. I will save that story for later.
The various jumps with the 82nd helped me control my fear of heights.. save the last one. The cigarette roll incident sort of renewed my fear of heights.. or fear of falling. The thing is, the falling part is no big deal..it's that sudden stop at the end that hurts like a muther!

lol Good one, please share with us the second story bud p-)

papasmerf
01-02-2004, 01:16 PM
Hey, what happens in the military when someone freezes at the door? Does JM push you out?

Sierra
01-02-2004, 01:17 PM
Anyone here ever jumped with a tandem instructor? What's it like? I'm doing it february next year, gonna be pretty scary p-)Not yet! I wanna do it on my 18th Birthday. Only 2 more years!

Deuterium
01-02-2004, 01:20 PM
Hey, what happens in the military when someone freezes at the door? Does JM push you out?

I've only seen it happen in Jump school, but the answer is yes. Airborne units have the occasional "Jump Refusals" and they are shown the way to leg-land to save them the ass-kicking they so justly deserve....

NcDeuce
01-02-2004, 01:29 PM
A few pics for you guys.... The majority are from a re-qual in Brookeville, FL. The one with the banana suit is from HALO school. Its the only one I got of me in the air not under canopy.



http://users.adelphia.net/~jcbcpc/test/kit.jpg

http://users.adelphia.net/~jcbcpc/test/final.jpg

http://users.adelphia.net/~jcbcpc/test/team.jpg

http://users.adelphia.net/~jcbcpc/test/fly.jpg

Nice photos!

Tane Angle
01-02-2004, 01:36 PM
One grips the outside, not the inside, of the airframe, so that the JM has an easier time "encouraging" people to not block the door.

I'm not big on heights, but for me, when I'm jumping I never make the connection that I could actually fall and eventualyl hit the ground. Though once I near the ground, below 500 feet, I usually realize that I am in fact getting quite close to the ground, and still traveling relatively quickly.

WARPIG
01-02-2004, 01:54 PM
Not really all that interesting of a story but here goes. I was helping my XO mess with a new LT on his cherry blast. The cherry LT sat between us in the C141. My XO would start, “ Hey, PFC Warpig, did you help LT “Cherry” suit up? “Yes sir, what’s wrong?” “ Well did you get a jump master to check it?” “Of course sir, I even had the CPT check it.” My XO says, “Well, if a JM checked it then I guess it is ok.” We both look sort of concerned at “Cherry’s” chute but then go about our business.
~10 minutes!
I glance at the chute again and even poke my finger around the static line. “ I didn’t notice that earlier Sir.” “That is why I asked before”
~Hook up!
The sweat on the Cherry’s upper lip is obvious. It is relatively cool in the aircraft since the doors are open.
~2 minutes!
Cherry LT is asking, “Is something wrong?..wwhwwhwhwhat are you guys looking at? What the hhhhhhell were you guys talking about?”
~ Check Equipment!
The “OK’s” come from the back of the stick up to me… I hesitate.. “OK?”
~Greenlight go!
We all step out and are sucked out of the doors one by one.

The jump was sort of a “Hollywood” jump. We jumped daylight but with combat loads. The only “mission” we had was to stage an assault up to the bleachers where several VIP’s and WWII vets were watching the activities. Then board a bus and go home.
The Cherry saw that the bleachers were far from us and wanted to slip closer. He pulled his risers and slipped with the wind to his target. This is a big no-go. We have very little control of the combat chute and are instructed to slip into the wind to attempt to keep chutes from colliding and to facilitate a easier and straighter decent.
As I see the LT slipping towards me I yell “SLIP AWAY” as loud as I can. He ignores me. In seconds we have collided and my chute, being higher, collapses. I feel myself fall and react to deploy my reserve. As I turn my head to the side I feel my chute catch air again . Out of the corner of my eye I notice a full canopy but before I can look for the ground.. splat! Like While E. Coyote! I hyper extend my knee but refused to ride the ambulance back to the bleachers. As my LT sees me limp up to the bleachers and eyeball the Cherry LT he cuts me off and reminds me that I only have a few weeks left in the military. I refrain from the “percussive dialogue” that I had planned for our Cherry.
Still scared of heights… but hope to attend Air-Assault school sometime this summer.

Jeff White
01-02-2004, 03:34 PM
Not so much horror stories but typical none-the-less. Most Paratroopers will have had twists in their rigging lines, landed with their equipment, bad exists, collisions or at least near misses with other jumpers.........its par for the course.

We had one guy who had a complete malfunction of his main chute and had to depoly his reserve, this is very very rare. So he was more than a little bit pissed off when the same thing happened on his next jump :D he survived.

They showed us a film on my jump course from a German jump, of a guy hung up by he's static line outside the plane..........very funny. :lol: they attach a chute from inside and cut the cable so he can land (he has to carry all the strops from the other jumpers with him though)

Air steals were dangerous, I was lucky enough to avoid these but we had a bloke break his back from this as the other jumper landed on him.....with his kit. :(

WARPIG
01-02-2004, 03:56 PM
"It looks like you guys are going to be surrounded. "
Richard Winters: "We're paratroopers, Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded."

Paratroopers rule!

Vance
01-02-2004, 04:31 PM
"It looks like you guys are going to be surrounded. "
Richard Winters: "We're paratroopers, Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded."

Paratroopers rule!
:D

simple jumper
01-02-2004, 06:24 PM
Suppose to be doing my Canadian para course this summer, I can pass the PT part, i'm sure (need to keep working on my run time (1mile in 7:30mins)) but theres so much demand for the course, it's the only one offered to cadets per year and only 50 or so make it from across Canada plus the people who get cut from the actual J-phase.

Later on I want to try for the US para course, if anyone has any info on how to get in, as on an exchange, or maybe even the add's you sometime see in magazines offering courses for a certain ammount of money. Any info would be appreciated.

Jeff White
01-02-2004, 06:33 PM
I assume you have been here already, you may already be a member.

http://www.commando.org/forums/index.php

I've got my US wings, we did an exchange with the 82nd Airborne, had to do 5 jumps from memory I think we did 6 all up with the exercises and stuff.

Be careful of these outfits offering you US wings, my advice would be get them once your in.

simple jumper
01-02-2004, 08:55 PM
Thanx Jeff, I've seen it before, my uncles name is even in the roll of honour!!! (JLWR Fournier 23 Novembre 1984)

I want my US wings asap, how much time does it take to get them once I'm in? I'm planning going 3RCR Para Coy, after university and my time in reserves.

Dmitri
01-02-2004, 09:53 PM
Speaking of PT, was is the requirement for the Airborne school in US? 210?

ChuckThunder
01-02-2004, 10:18 PM
Speaking of PT, was is the requirement for the Airborne school in US? 210?

Weight?

Dmitri
01-02-2004, 11:02 PM
No, PT score required to be eligible for the school

Haiw
01-02-2004, 11:06 PM
Length in cm. They plan on winning the inter-service basketball competition next year. ;)

EvanL
01-03-2004, 12:49 AM
Thanx Jeff, I've seen it before, my uncles name is even in the roll of honour!!! (JLWR Fournier 23 Novembre 1984)

I want my US wings asap, how much time does it take to get them once I'm in? I'm planning going 3RCR Para Coy, after university and my time in reserves.
Same here. Maybe we will meet up some time. Cheers

NcDeuce
01-03-2004, 12:49 AM
:cantbeli: PT score!