Msn Entertainment : Top 10 War Films

[Seraphim]

http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=144003

[papasmerf]

We Were Soldiers with Mel Gibson should've been put up there with top 10, I really enjoyed that movie.

[Gringo]

HA! The guys who did this list were smart.
Apocalyse Now and The Thin Red Line r in their right place. Shame A Bridge Too Far and Platoon didn't make it in.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Platoon is a classic, it was brilliant for its time.
Oliver Stone actually made them go threw bootcamp, lug the equipment around and set it up for shoots and generally have them experience life as a grunt. When someone was "dead" after a scene they would be taken away from filming, by the time the movie was done these guys felt like they had been threw war...
its the best war movie there is. woot

[Operation Ivy]

were's Windtalkers rofl


But im mad they didnt but the Longest Day in there :( and Stalingrad

[El'Potato]

The most scary thing about all this is, that saving private ryan made it in and NOT platoon and a bride too far :fork:

[PsihoKeke]

It seems that for those guys at Msn only the Hollywood is relevant. I mean where is Das boot, Stalingrad, Come and see, Galipoli and Zulu.

[Thomsen]

Does anybody know the german movie "Das Boot"?

http://www.audio-ideas.com/reviews/graphics/dvd-boot.jpg

http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/d/das_boot.html

Tremendous!

[Macs.]

Apocalypse Now is Nr 1 !??!

That movie is not the best war movie ever... :|

[Vance]

Das Boot wasn't anywhere on the list :|

[Haiw]

Apocalypse Now isn't all that great...and FMJ; well, to be honest, it's a nice MILITARY movie allright, but how much of a war movie is it really? There's basically just one big firefight in it concentrated on taking out a sniper...that's pretty much it.

[Rantanplan]

What!!!!! Kelly's Heroes isn't in the top ten!?!?!?! :bash:

http://www.strategyplanet.com/commandos/images/kelly.jpg


P.S. Apocalypse Now is one of the best Movies ever, but it's a very bad War Movie. At all they should have made a difference betwen War and Antiwar Movies.

[Gringo]

I don't really see a difference between a war film and an anit-war film. I don't think there is such a genre as an Anti-war film. Most war films do give the impression that war is terrible and costly of human life.
Kellys Heroes, although enjoyable, does kind of glamourise war.

[Deuterium]

That list made me puke..... Neither dramatically, historically, nor entertainingly, was the 10 listed on ANYONES top 10 in that order or, for some, even on the list.

[Skaman]

top 10 war movies from AMERICA

[FallenAngel]

top 10 war movies from AMERICA

Seeing as how MSN is an American company....sorta fits doesn't it Mr-State-the-obvious.

One movie I really liked that never seems to get mentioned is Shot Through the Heart. That's a great movie about the bonds that break during war. Or the North and South series of movies- also about the "loss" of war.

Top Gun and Three Kings also seem to be absent for some reason...:\

[Jack Mehoff]

top 10 war movies from AMERICA

Who else can beat Hollywood?

[Haiw]

Well you might try some German war movies for a change...or the Finnish movie 'Winter War'.

[Skaman]

top 10 war movies from AMERICA

Who else can beat Hollywood?


Are you kidding?

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Winter war was a good movie...pretty much one of the best I have seen.

[IDFM203]

First of all apocalypse now at #1?? You got to be kidding me...I don’t even think it belongs in the top ten.

Also where’s black hawk down??

To ducimus19..

I don’t usually respond to your post's but this one here somehow piqued my interest ;)

First if you are upset about Americans and their Hollywood. Then why doesn’t Canada have one of its own with the same quality? I mean no one is stopping you.

Also why do Canadians flock to see American hollywood films? again no one is forcing them to do it.

Also if hollywood being that its American is so bad, then why is it that most of your countryman’s actors run to this American hollywood to be actors there and also why is it that your government invites the American hollywood studies and gives them tax breaks to film in your country??

Lastly can you name one Canadian produced and filmed war movie that should be in anyone’s top ten list??

Shalom :D

[Seraphim]

Also where’s black hawk down??



BHD wasnt a war film...it was an action film.

[IDFM203]

Also where’s black hawk down??



BHD wasnt a war film...it was an action film.what do you mean?? it was a film based on actual war events.....am I not correct??

you know once in a while, war can be action as well ;)

[Seraphim]

The events of BHD does not classify as a "war"

[Haiw]

Yea but it was only 'based on'...lots of things were changed etc. etc. and it was hardly about war (Mogadishu wasn't even a war) anyway...anyway, the whole movie itself is made like a patriotic action movie.

[Seraphim]

Yea but it was only 'based on'...lots of things were changed etc. etc. and it was hardly about war (Mogadishu wasn't even a war) anyway...anyway, the whole movie itself is made like a patriotic action movie.

I hate it when people complain that the movie was too patriotic, boo ****ing hoo.

No BHD, Pearl Harbor and Private Ryan should have been anti american movies, woot! ya thats how it should have been made.

[IDFM203]

Yea but it was only 'based on'...lots of things were changed etc. etc. and it was hardly about war (Mogadishu wasn't even a war) anyway...anyway, the whole movie itself is made like a patriotic action movie.
First of all the other ten war movies are also “based on” and have some parts amended.

Secondly, “in BHD the battle was a war”……I don’t really think I can explain it any better then those 7 words. (well the acronym here I put as one word…..to those that are doing the counting ;) )

Anyway’s perhaps some of the former American serviceman here can explain this better and about those events and those warlike battles.

P.S. I get what you guys are saying but to me a action film is terminator or die hard or lethal weapon etc.…I don’t see how BHD can be part of that action genre.

[Haiw]

I'm not complaining it was patriotic, since it wasn't anywhere near as bad as Pearl Harbor (my god, only Hollywood can turn a defeat like that into a patriotic victory :roll: ), I'm just saying it was a patriotic action movie... Besides it's not my opinion should be anti-american, but 'neutral' would be nice.

[Dalleer]

At first I thought about sitting this discussion out, but nevertheless I wouldn't put too much trust on MSN's various "info" that they give out...

It's obvious that whoever made this "list" of war movies didn't have much experience under his/her belt concerning the subject.

[Seraphim]

I'm not complaining it was patriotic, since it wasn't anywhere near as bad as Pearl Harbor (my god, only Hollywood can turn a defeat like that into a patriotic victory :roll: ), I'm just saying it was a patriotic action movie... Besides it's not my opinion should be anti-american, but 'neutral' would be nice.

Was there not a surge of patriotism after 9/11?

[Zach R.]

MY top-ten war movies of all time.

10. The Enemy below
9. The Longest Day
8. To Hell and back
7. Band of brothers (The HBO series)
6. Saving Private Ryan
5. Battle of the Bulge
4. Patton
3. Black Hawk Down
2. We were Soldiers
1. The Patriot (With Mel Gibson, not Steven Seagall)

[NcDeuce]

Black Hawk Down is a war film...just go to Amazon.com and click War flims and you'll find it.

In reality, we were hunting down Aidid's aides in a covert war to restore "hope" to the Somali people. Units from the Navy, Marine Corps Army, & Air Force were all involved. Twas a war...helicopters flying nap-of-the-earth, Special Op ninjas raiding buildings, good old fashioned war!

BTW, nice list Zach R.

[Macs.]

"Black Hawk Down" was a mission, but not a real war.

If I am talking about war I mean things like: WW1/2, Vietnam, Gulf War etc.

[NcDeuce]

Black Hawk Down is a movie. The Battle of Mogadishu was a battle. The Battle of Mogadishu, along with countless other operations make up a war...covert...but that's how we get it done now.

[Marxist203]

Ok...apocalypse now is a piece of **** dude. There are way better movies out there.

What about the Longest Day? that movie was 4 hours long and covered all sides of the conflict. M.A.S.H. was a snore fest, the Television series was the only thing good about it.

[Skaman]

Dreadnaught

Current Status: Pre-Production
Release Date: 2004
War Genre: Modern Military
Director: Dominic Sena
Cast: Vin Diesel
Story: When a commercial airliner is accidentally shot down in a military exercise by the Dreadnaught, the most advanced Navy warship ever created, the captain (Diesel) decides to mutiny after he's ordered by his superiors to kill the sole survivor. Soon, the Dreadnaught finds itself locked in a high-tech, high seas game of cat-and-mouse with the rest of the U.S. Navy... (from Yahoo Movies)



-American film at its finest :roll:



some of these dont sound half bad though:http://warmovieposters.8m.com/movies.html

time will tell

[Jack Mehoff]

****amus19,

This is the best war movies thread and NOT your American bashing thread. How about go get a life?

[ArmedPacifist]

1. The Patriot (With Mel Gibson, not Steven Seagall)

Are you ****ing stoned?

[HappyCat]

lol Ducimus, as a fellow canadian I can say face it our movie industry is **** whenever we turn out a film it sucks and hollywood is the only place with the money to turn out good films en mass. They turn out a lot of crap, but we only turn out crap so what are you bitching about honestly. Other countries do make good films, but not many idustrys have the money to compete with hollywood, so looks like you screwed if you don't want to watch American films too bad.

[Herrmannek]

Yea but it was only 'based on'...lots of things were changed etc. etc. and it was hardly about war (Mogadishu wasn't even a war) anyway...anyway, the whole movie itself is made like a patriotic action movie.

I hate it when people complain that the movie was too patriotic, boo f*** hoo.

No BHD, Pearl Harbor and Private Ryan should have been anti american movies, woot! ya thats how it should have been made.

Puting patriotism in everything is like puting ketchup on everything, when you put it on sausage it is ok but when you put it on chocolate cake you spoil cake and spoil ketchup, that is what we "europeans" don't like :)

BHD and mogadishu was such cake, it have genrally nothing in common with patriotism, you werent protecting your country, or even protecting your particular buisness this was peace mission, and whole battle was total ****up with Pury's victory at the end of it, but film was stufed with that ketchup in amounts you rarely seen on sausage.

[Rantanplan]

Yea but it was only 'based on'...lots of things were changed etc. etc. and it was hardly about war (Mogadishu wasn't even a war) anyway...anyway, the whole movie itself is made like a patriotic action movie.

I hate it when people complain that the movie was too patriotic, boo f*** hoo.

No BHD, Pearl Harbor and Private Ryan should have been anti american movies, woot! ya thats how it should have been made.

Puting patriotism in everything is like puting ketchup on everything, when you put it on sausage it is ok but when you put it on chocolate cake you spoil cake and spoil ketchup, that is what we "europeans" don't like :)

BHD and mogadishu was such cake, it have genrally nothing in common with patriotism, you werent protecting your country, or even protecting your particular buisness this was peace mission, and whole battle was total f*** with Pury's victory at the end of it, but film was stufed with that ketchup in amounts you rarely seen on sausage.



Spoken like a true prodigy.
woot

[Skaman]

lol Ducimus, as a fellow canadian I can say face it our movie industry is **** whenever we turn out a film it sucks and hollywood is the only place with the money to turn out good films en mass. They turn out a lot of crap, but we only turn out crap so what are you bitching about honestly. Other countries do make good films, but not many idustrys have the money to compete with hollywood, so looks like you screwed if you don't want to watch American films too bad.


I look to the international film industry more so then the American. The USA produces many great films nontheless. Canada produces, well, maybe one a year. I find that Hollywood is too drawn out, and these excessively violent movies and false idols make me sick.

[Saranof]

Riiiiight...
Look, do we have to go to this every time? Americans on the forum, you know fulley well how we feel about your over-patriotic movies. It's fine if they don't overdo it, but they do.
*chough* pearl harbor *chough* :roll:

The only reason films like Stalingrad, Das Boot, The Iron Cross and A Bridge too far wen't on the list is because they arn't american. You know it, I know it, your mums hamster knows it.
As soon as we have a vote about these instead, it turns out into a pro american rally for some.
People actually liked "the patriot"? :|

[a. enders]

You make it sound like all American's loved that **** fest called Pearl Harbor.If I were a WW2 veteran (from ANY country) I'd be disgusted....more so than I am now.Hey,let's turn a tragic event in American history into a summer popcorn boink fest for twelve year-olds.I was only surprised there was no toy marketing tie-in.

Then again,this is from the same studio system that brought us such calssics as Fast and Furious,and Faster and Furiouser,and some rip-off bike movie undoubtedly titled Like Fast and Furious But With Bikes.

Best war movie I've ever seen...dunno....don't really like to play favorites.But "When Trumpets Fade" was damn awesome.And tremendously better than Saving Private Ryan.And "A Midnight Clear".

[Fargin]

No Das Boot, pos list.

[Seiyuuki]

The list was made by "MSN Entertainment," an American company, catering to the American audiences...see the point?

[El'Potato]

You know what? If you read more carefully what Saranof wrote you will see that he made that pretty clear...

[Salty Dog]

thin red line beat out saving pvt. ryan.....thats not right. (both were great movies, but saving pvt. ryan was so much better)

[Thomsen]

What about "Bravo 2.0."?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005R87B.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg


Sean Bean has yet to star in a major movie, but he proves his charisma in Bravo Two Zero, based on the true story of a British Special Forces unit behind enemy lines during the Gulf War. Bravo Two Zero begins with the men taking leave of their wives, children, and girlfriends, then takes us step by step through the procedures that lead to going to war: not simply the gathering of equipment and intelligence, but things like "proof of life" statements--something idiosyncratic that, if the soldiers are captured, will demonstrate that they are still alive. Sent to cut an information line, the squad loses radio contact, and the men are forced to abandon their gear and head for the border of Syria. From there things only get worse, and some viewers may find the going brutal. These realistic details give the movie its punch, but it's Bean who keeps you caring. --Bret Fetzer