SAAB J 29 Tunnan (56K warning)

[Luno]

A tribute to one off the best looking aircraft from the 50ies :D

SAAB J 29 Tunnan
Made its maiden flight in September 1948. By constructing a swept- wing aircraft SAAB moved to the forefront of aviation industry. The Tunnan made history by for a while holding the world speed record for a closed circuit track.

The aircraft was used in the interceptor, attack and reconnaissance versions between 1951 and 1967. Between 1961 and 1963 the J 29 served in a UN mission to Congo.
A total of 600 Tunnans were made for the Swedish air force.

Data
Length: 10,23 m
Wingspan: 11,00 m
Height: 3,75 m
Empty weight: 4,9 tons
Internal fuel: 1,7 tons
Crew: 1
Engine: 1x de Havilland Ghost DGT3 RM2B
Thrust: 1x 21,2 kN, 1x2160 kp
Load limit: +7 G

http://img255.echo.cx/img255/2428/tun1719ks.jpg
http://img255.echo.cx/img255/886/tun152uh.jpg
http://img255.echo.cx/img255/6910/tun101qr.jpg
http://img255.echo.cx/img255/5258/064400738uk.jpg
http://img192.echo.cx/img192/9162/13yf.jpg
http://img192.echo.cx/img192/3138/24pg.jpg
http://img192.echo.cx/img192/1559/36ag.jpg
http://img255.echo.cx/img255/8749/a29linje6br.jpg
http://img255.echo.cx/img255/1521/a29klargoring4hq.jpg

[Scottie]

sexy thing ;)

[Dalleer]

Agreed !

[-Max2-]

Funny looking plane. :)

[Scottie]

wouldnt mind penetrating that rear ;)

[Luno]

Does anyone have any action photos from Tunnan in Congo?
There where one posted on MP.net a wile ago

[ikurinturbiini]

Funny looking plane. :)

The name means "Barrel". :D

[V/E]

Does anyone have any action photos from Tunnan in Congo?
There where one posted on MP.net a wile ago

This one ?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/stridspitt/inM_10.jpg

[OldRecon]

A tribute to one off the best looking aircraft from the 50ies :D

...

A total of 600 Tunnans were made for the Swedish air force.
...

Of whom 200 were involved in crash incidents :(, a good portion of whom included fatalities. Many pilots initialy being unused to correcting movements in the roll plane during landing approaches with the rudder rather than ailrons.
Nevertheless one of the best fighter planes of its generation, with tighter turning radius than either the MIG 15 or F-86 Sabre and some aerodynamic oddities in the transonic range that could be used to advantage once mastered.
How it would have stood up to the MIG 17 I don't know though (some Taiwanese Sabres got a real beasting by Chinese MIG 17's in an incident during the Mid 1950's).
Still I have a soft spot for this pugnacious little bulldog fighter :).

[Resurrection]

Some more photos of the 'Tunnan' in UN markings:

http://img218.echo.cx/img218/4019/00110005131963087ja.jpg

http://img30.echo.cx/img30/4273/j29enaraweb0uh.jpg

http://img30.echo.cx/img30/4928/j29bweb4st8de.jpg

http://img30.echo.cx/img30/5576/j29bf221web6jp.jpg


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[Kingcoma]

Film clip1 (http://www.amf-film.se/FilmClips/11095.wmv)
Film clip2 (http://www.streaming.telia.com/startmedia/default.asp?k=150&i=746&n=Media02/j29/J29_Tunnan_Bredband.wmv&e=N)

http://www.freeweb.hu/superfighter/LINKPINGFLYGVAPENMUSEUMTYPEMENUPAGE/SAABJ29TUNNANSn21364Sn29398UN/photos/photo7.jpg
http://www.freeweb.hu/superfighter/LINKPINGFLYGVAPENMUSEUMTYPEMENUPAGE/SAABJ29TUNNANSn21364Sn29398UN/photos/photo11.jpg
http://www.freeweb.hu/superfighter/LINKPINGFLYGVAPENMUSEUMTYPEMENUPAGE/SAABJ29TUNNANSn21364Sn29398UN/photos/photo18.jpg
http://www.hkpflj.mil.se/images/local/tunnan_mot_lyft.jpg
http://www.hkpflj.mil.se/images/local/tunnan_i_luften.jpg

[Drunkensquid]

Interesting, this plane kind of reminds me to one of the experimental FockeWulf fighters at the end of WW2.

[Kap]

Looks like a stupid guppy fish.

Ugly crap plane.

[Resurrection]

Looks like a stupid guppy fish.

Ugly crap plane.

Die.

[Luno]

Does anyone have any action photos from Tunnan in Congo?
There where one posted on MP.net a wile ago

This one ?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/stridspitt/inM_10.jpg


yes thank you mate :D

[ogukuo72]

Interesting, this plane kind of reminds me to one of the experimental FockeWulf fighters at the end of WW2.

You mean the Ta 183? :)
http://www.luft46.com/mmart/mm183-6.jpg

Ya, the resemblance is uncanny.

[Drunkensquid]

Interesting, this plane kind of reminds me to one of the experimental FockeWulf fighters at the end of WW2.

You mean the Ta 183? :)
http://www.luft46.com/mmart/mm183-6.jpg

Ya, the resemblance is uncanny.

Yes, thank you. We can see where the mig15 design originated from.

[tomcat1974]

Yes, thank you. We can see where the mig15 design originated from.

Here we go again ... :fork:

[CSAR]

What kind of weapons does that thing carry? Some of those pics there are rockets that look like ones used by USAAF (and RAF?) in WW2. I see there are also ofcourse couple of guns (calibre?). Any primitive heat seeking missiles? I think Sabre did carry early versions of Sidewinders.

[Kingcoma]

Armament options for all version, except S 29C, which was unarmed:

* 12 x 7.5 cm anti-aircraft rockets
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pictures/vehicles/aircraft/j29_2.jpg

* Same as above, also:
8 x 8 cm anti-armour rockets, seldom used

* 8 or 14 x 14.5 cm anti-armour rockets, 45 kg each;
or 8/14 x 15 cm HE rockets, 45 kg each

* 2 or 4 x 18 cm HE anti-ship rockets, 125 kg each

* Droptanks also usable as napalm bombs, either 400 or 500 litres each. The larger, Type 2, had fins to ensure clean separation, but the fins usually weren't mounted during peace time as they created extra drag.

* 2 x Rb 24 (AIM-9B) Sidewinder
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pictures/vehicles/aircraft/j29_3.jpg

[GAFES]

Ha ha ha that litle planes looks awesome . Thanks for the pics. p-)

[perdurabo]

Interesting, this plane kind of reminds me to one of the experimental FockeWulf fighters at the end of WW2.

You mean the Ta 183? :)
http://www.luft46.com/mmart/mm183-6.jpg

Ya, the resemblance is uncanny.

Yes, thank you. We can see where the mig15 design originated from.
and F86 Sabre and whole bunch of other planes from that era :D

[Luno]

A nice video off historic Saab aircraft and off course tunnan is in it (15 MB)

http://www.saabaerosystems.com/download/18.1ab11b0fd51e47ea97fff32/HISTORY.mov

[yako]

Also armed with 4 20mm auto cannons. Some of those survived to be fitted onto pbv302 APC:s in the 60s, and those turrets have since been mounted in brand-new Patria patgb203:s, so the weapon is still in service (although the constellation patgb203/20mm akan has never become a popular one).

EDIT: Pic of 20mm turret: http://soldf.com/images/s_xa203_akan_front.jpg

[Luno]

Also armed with 4 20mm auto cannons. Some of those survived to be fitted onto pbv302 APC:s in the 60s, and those turrets have since been mounted in brand-new Patria patgb203:s, so the weapon is still in service (although the constellation patgb203/20mm akan has never become a popular one).

EDIT: Pic of 20mm turret: http://soldf.com/images/s_xa203_akan_front.jpg

Yes you are right the major different is that the 20mm gun is mounted upside down in the PBV 302 so the empty cases are thrown up in the air instead for down in the gunners knee.
The correct name off the gun is Hispano Suiza HS 804 or m/47D (=

PBV302 with 20mm Akan(photo taken by me down at I20)
http://img92.echo.cx/img92/8238/25sg.th.jpg (http://img92.echo.cx/my.php?image=25sg.jpg)

[Ghostwolf]

That plane looks short and stubby, kinda like the X-32

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/x-32-c35-1781-65.jpg