Poland's Formoza and 1 PSK [Archive]

Marmot1

12-30-2003, 12:33 AM

The Polish Armed Forces, besides other types of forces, also include special forces. They are made up of independent units and sub-units which are specially trained and selected troops prepared to operate in small diversified teams in high risk environment. The troops fulfill strategic or operating assignments during peace, crisis or war time.
COMMANDOS FROM LUBLINIEC

1st Special Regiment from Lubliniec refers with its traditions to the history of the 2nd Commando Battalion of the Special Motorized Battalion and "Parasol" and "Zoska" Sabotage Battalion. The unit is characterized by very high training levels owing to the special training system introduced in Polish units for several years now. Typical activities the the 1st Commando Regiment soldiers are trained in: group landing from a helicopter, reconnaissance activities, ambushes, attack and retreat, camouflage, frogmen attack and parachuting, unarmed and armed combat, 40-kilometer marches in full gear. The unit aims to become fully profession. Soldiers of the 1st Regiment are also trained in activities behind the front line, espionage data collection, reconnaissance, defensive raids and hostage rescue.

Candidates first go through basic training and then a 3-month school for young specialists. Later 6-person special groups are created.

GROM

A special unit known as the Operational and Mobile Reconnaissance Group was founded on July 13, 1990, organized according to the best American and British models. In 1994 it participated in the mission of the allied forces on Haiti as well as search of the war criminals on the territory of former Yugoslavia.

GROM is a formation that depending on needs can perform typical reconnaissance and sabotage tasks. Its members also have skills useful in complex rescue operations aimed at rescuing hostages from terrorists. They are also prepared for marine operations (on vessels and drilling towers). These operations are considered to be the most difficult.

They operate in four-person teams. Each soldier is a professional in the field of special operations. They undergo arduous training in parachuting and diving.

Candidates applying to serve in the GROM have to pass psychological and durability tests and the so called truth test, i.e. exhausting physically and psychologically field test during which the weakest fail. GROM soldiers train together with the best special units in the world. By the specialists they are classified on the par with the American Delta Force or British SAS.

Source polish Ministry of Defence
http://www.mon.gov.pl/start.php?page=1011100001

Marmot1

12-30-2003, 01:03 AM

http://www.psk.mil.pl/Obrazki/znakpulku.jpg
1 PSK logo
http://www.psk.mil.pl/Obrazki/Gapa.jpg
"GAPA" airborne badge
source 1PSK website (only polish and under construction)
http://www.psk.mil.pl

UPDATE: sorry no pics since server do not allow hotlinks to pics
1 PSK arm patch
http://www.naszywki.kgb.pl/naszywki/page17.html
sorry but in polish,in general diferent badges of Batalion HQ, batalions,logistic etc. last one is for airborne (probably for outdor uniform)
GROM
http://www.naszywki.kgb.pl/naszywki/page3.html
Warning last one is falsificate avaliable on "market"

Formoza
http://www.naszywki.kgb.pl/naszywki/page9.html
be careful there under name falsyfikaty is colection of fake patches, only upper row are oficial ones.

italian site about formoza ,sorry i dont know italian (excemt "ciao bambino" ;-) ) but there is couple of photos from training....
http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/EXILESBEACH/Ant/FORMOZA.html

some info in english about polish sf (GROM,FORMOZA) and some photos
http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.html/function/view/categoryid/884/documentid/2076/history/3,884,2076

REMOV

12-30-2003, 09:33 AM

I'm looking for pics of Poland's Formoza combat diver unit and the Army's 1 PSK unit. Training, ops, and insignia. I'm planning on updating my stuff over on Specwarnet, so I'd be grateful for any help.
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/01.jpg
Polish Prime Minister Leszek Miller (the men with 5,56mm kbk Mini-Beryl)with Formoza members .

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/02.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/03.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/04.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/05.jpg

REMOV

12-30-2003, 09:33 AM

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/06.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/07.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/08.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/09.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/10.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/11.jpg

REMOV

12-30-2003, 09:34 AM

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/12.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/13.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/14.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/15.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/16.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/17.jpg

Courtesy of Andrzej (Thanks for all pictures and informations).

REMOV

12-30-2003, 10:06 AM

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/naszywka.jpg

Some pictures of Formoza (a little bit old, the new ones are classified ;))

Weapons: 5,56mm kbs Beryl wz.96 assault rifles, 5,56mm kbk Mini-Beryl wz.96 carbines, 7,62mm kbk AKMS assault rifles, 9mm MP-5F submachnine guns, 9mm Glauberyt PM-84P submachnine guns, 9mm SiG 226 pistols.

Mission: (primary) combat divers, (secondary, lately) AT tactics (regular training with Gdansk Police AT units, sometimes with ABW and Polish Coast Guard), capturing/boardings enemy vessels.

Foreign contacts: French Commando Marine (also Hubert), Dutch units (BBE or 7 NL SBS, I'm not quite sure).

Equipment: the photos are old, so there is the former AT uniforms (pilot's green overalls, older Polish tactical vests), recently they got very good navy blue nomex overalls and Norvegian black tactical vests. Also Polish uniforms (Pantera and Pustynna Pantera cammo), goretex jackets and trousers.

Recently actions: They primary mission during the OIF was securing the Polish vessel ORP Kontradmiral X. Czernicki (OWL-511) in the Gulf (part of the US 5th Fleet), sometimes with American and Australian units they conducted boardings unknown ships.

-Max2-

12-30-2003, 10:13 AM

Nice pics, REMOV. :D

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/16.jpg

What kind of sniper rifle it is ? A MacMillan .50 ?

And are they Formoza or PSK on this pic ?

Claymore

12-30-2003, 10:27 AM

Looks like Sako TRG.

www.sako.fi

REMOV

12-30-2003, 11:10 AM

What kind of sniper rifle it is ? A MacMillan .50 ?7,62mm SAKO TRG-21 sniper rifle.

And are they Formoza or PSK on this pic ?The 1. PSK. Very characteristic the An-2 mock-up in the background at the training ground in Lubliniec ;).

He219

12-30-2003, 11:29 AM

Very Nice Pic's, REMOV!

:D

woot

Dominique

12-30-2003, 03:22 PM

Thanks for the assist. Quick question about the photos. Which unit is which, and who should I give photo credits to?

Here's the old GSP/Formoza profile. It's a little old, and the info may have changed.

Poland’s

Grupa Specjalna Pletwonurkow
(GSP)
Naval Special Frogman Group
“FORMOZA”

What may come as a surprise to many observers of the world’s military elites is that Poland maintains a large, highly trained, but relatively unknown special operations capability. One of the least known of these units is the Polish Navy’s Grupa Specjalna Pletwonurkow (GSP - naval special combat diver group), which is more commonly known in the Polish media as “Formoza”.

The GSP is an elite group of approximately 50 combat divers organized along the lines of the US Navy SEALs, and British SBS. Very little information on the unit’s activities is publicly available. What is known is that the unit operates as part of the Navy’s reconnaissance vessels group (GOR) and is currently based at the Gdynia-Oksywie naval base. The unit’s operators are reportedly trained to conduct a wide ranger of naval special warfare activities, including naval base interdiction; naval reconnaissance operations; force protection; maritime interdiction and ship boarding operations; counter mine operations; and maritime counter-terrorism operations.

The few reports of the unit’s operations have stated that it has conducted missions in Persian Gulf in support of the Global War on Terrorism. During the recent hostilities in Iraq, a 12 man team of GSP divers reportedly operated alongside the GROM special operations unit, and conducted several joint operations alongside US special operations forces. The Iraqi operations were launched from the Polish naval vessel Xawery Czernicki, and were conducted near the port city of Umm Qasr during the opening days of the war.

Photos of the unit have shown them using a mixture of US and German equipment and weapons including “Fritz” style Kevlar ballistic helmets, black Nomex flame retardant suits, H&K MP-5 9mm SMGs, and Colt M-4 5.56mm assault rifles.

Marmot1

12-31-2003, 12:11 AM

1 remov post all pic = formoza
2 remov post all except last two = 1PSK ,last two = formoza
3 remov post all except last two = formoza, last two = 1PSK

REMOV I hope I am ok?

Dominique

01-13-2004, 12:51 PM

One question I've never bothered to ask. What does FORMOZA stand for?

wholagun

01-13-2004, 01:49 PM

Why is the cammo different in several pics for example

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/06.jpg

Light color cammo

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/03.jpg

Brown color cammo

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/04.jpg

Totally green this is new I never saw it before in Polish army

Why is the cammo differnt, also it seems that the cammo used now is more greenish then the ones in the pics above.
Also why do they use Beryl not M4 carbine like GROM?

REMOV

01-13-2004, 04:23 PM

One question I've never bothered to ask. What does FORMOZA stand for?It is a long story full of torpedoes, Germans, Chinese isle and strange structures... ;)

So, once upon a time (in 1939) bad Germans invaded the Europe. The also occupied the whole territory of Poland. The northern Poland was very safe place for them, beyond the range of Allied bombers. So they made lot of experimental facilities there, including new weapons testing structures and military training grounds. Ones of them were torpedoes testing centers called Torpedowaffenplatz.

There several such German test centers in Poland, but only two of them are most interesing for us. Sure, the story is still about the name of special unit ;)

In fact they are just artificial islands, made of concrete. The only way you can get inisde was small wooden pier. After the war, when the piers were destroyed, the buildings were isolating structures about 300 to 500 metres from the coast. Small isolating islands... this should resemble you something...

Where's the point? So, let's move to South-Eastern Asia. Little, isolated island near China. Which is nowadays well-known by its Chinese name of "Taiwan". But the old, Portuguese name of the island, the name by which it is most commonly known is "Formosa". In fact the Portuguese called it "Ilha Formosa", the beautiful isle. In Poland the old name was in '50 well-known and popular, and spelled in Polish Formoza.

So, one little association met the other and old German structures were called Formoza's. The two biggest got a popular names: Old Formoza and New Formoza. The first one is nowadays devastated building, interesting only for divers(see picture)...

http://rekin.mega.com.pl/nur1/relacje/2003/30524torpedownia/torp-07.jpg
The Old Formoza

...but the second (New Formoza) is still in service for Polish Navy (as a part of some naval harbor). There are (or was) some Navy testing facilities but also a base of Polish Special Divers Group. So they adpoted the name of a structure as unit name. It isn't any abbreviation. It is just a name - Naval Frogmens Special Group "Formoza".

Argo AdAm

01-13-2004, 05:43 PM

Why is the cammo differnt, also it seems that the cammo used now is more greenish then the ones in the pics above.[...]
On these pics there are the same cammos, only look different due to different light conditions, and types of fabric and paints. Another thing is that typical fabric used to make the standard polish combat uniforms isn't the best and after some period of using and lundering it camouflages colours becomes pale and contrast between them decrease. Fortunately in Polish army there is more and more really good uniforms made from gore-tex and rip-stop. I think proper camo colours are for example on gore-tex.

[...]Also why do they use Beryl not M4 carbine like GROM?GROM was created in Ministry Of Internal Affairs where they had big independence and money so they could choose weapons they wanted. This unit is the main power of Polish special operations forces and that's why they gets the best weapons. As for weapons of the 1st PSK and Formoza, there are other types of equipment which nowadays are more needed for them like 0.5 cal sniper rifle, night vision binoculars, termo vision cameras and other high-tech things. For now they can still use Beryl and mini-Beryl as an assault rifle but of course it would be better if they had M4's or G36K. I hope that will be soon.

Dominique

10-21-2004, 01:15 PM

As promised here's my updated version of my articoe pn the 1PSK:
Poland’s

Poland’s

1 Pulk Specjalny Komandosów
1PSK
1st Special Commando Regiment

The Polish Army’s 1st Special (Commando) Regiment, or 1 PSK, is one of three special operations units currently operating within the Polish military’s force structure. Operating under the command of Col. Jania, the units is based in Lubliniec, near Częstochowa. The Regiment carries on the traditions of several World War II special mission units. These WWII units, organized with the assistance of the US and England, consisted of the 2nd Commando Battalion, of the Special Motorized Battalion and the “Parasol” (Umbrella) and “Zoœka” Sabotage Battalion .

Prior to 1994, the Regiment was composed of a single battalion (1 Independent Special Battalion), but it’s currently organized into three special battalions and an independent combat swimmer company. Each battalion is composed of three companies, which are divided into three platoons. Each platoon contains 3-six man teams giving the unit a total strength of approximately 90 operational teams, plus support staff.

Thanks to the unit’s high recruiting standards, and a special training program the Regiment implemented several years ago, the unit’s soldiers display a higher level of skill and professionalism, when compared to other Polish forces. The Regiment’s troops are trained to undertake a wide range of special missions during war time, with it’s troops being capable of conducting air assault, helicopter, and parachute operations (including HALO and HAHO operations); strategic and tactical reconnaissance operations; raids and ambushes; combat diver and underwater attack missions; providing support to other specialist units during hostage rescue operations; and other missions as deemed necessary. During their recent deployment to Iraq, 1PSK troops also conducted close protection duties for various high ranking military officials and civilian VIPs.

Candidates wishing to service in the Regiment must first successfully undertake a basic military training course. They then move on to three-month “Junior Specialist” training course. During this phase recruits receive training in close combat, unarmed combat, fighting with specialized equipment, parachuting, land navigation, weapons handling, basic survival, and several other military related skills. Those troops who successfully complete the second phase then move onto the Regiment, where they assigned to one the unit’s six-man operational teams. Once there additional training continues (mountain and cold weather training, sniper, amphibious operations, etc.).

The regiment has been quite active over the last few years with troops being deployed to support NATO operations in Macedonia. A 13-man detachment was deployed to Afghanistan as part of Poland’s support of Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF). Most recently the unit has deployed a 56-man company to Iraq as part of the Multinational Division Central South. In the near future the unit is to become fully professional force composed entirely of professional soldiers. The Regiment, along with GROM counter terror unit and the Navy’s GSP (“Formoza”) combat diver unit, is slated to fall under a newly proposed Polish special operations command.

The 1PSK armories are currently in a state of flux as the unit tries to upgrade the equipment used by it’s operators. Weapons in use by the unit include the P83 and P94 WIST 9mm Para pistols, kbs wz.04 96 Beryl 5.56mm assault rifles, (many of the weapons have been modified with the addition of fore-grips, laser aiming devices, aiming lights/illumination devices, and various optics such as Tasco telescopic scopes and/or night vision devices), H&K MP-5, MP-5SD, Uzi, Glauberyt Pm-84P (some of which have been equipped with sound suppressors) 9mm sub-machineguns., km PK 7.62m GPMGs. Unit snipers are equipped with the Finnish 7.62mm SAKO TRG-21, TRG-22, and kbw SWD (“Dragunov”) sniper rifles.

*NOTE*

A very special thanks to REMOV, mack_pl, and Kruglerek and everyone else from www.militaryphotos.net for all the help they provided in preparing this article.

If you guys don't mind, how about reading over it for accuracy and let me know if you catch any mistakes.

Next up for updating, GSP/"Formoza".

mack pl

10-21-2004, 01:30 PM

As promised here's my updated version of my articoe pn the 1PSK:
Poland’s

1 Pulk
Pułk
1PSK

. Most recently the unit has sent troops to Iraq as part of the Multinational Division Central South. 56 strenght company in Iraq

kbk wz. 96 Mini-Beryl 5.56mm carbines. (many of the weapons have been modified with the addition of fore-grips, laser aiming devices, aiming lights/illumination devices, and various optics such as Tasco telescopic scopes and/or night vision devices),only Formoza using Mini-Beryl, but Remov is an expert, not me;-)))

*NOTE*

, mak_pl, arghhh, mack_pl;-)))))

Best regards :D

PS. new pic for you mate ;)

"Mad Max" Honker- 1PSK guys in Iraq
http://www.polska-zbrojna.pl/img/artykul/1673.jpg[/img]

Herrmannek

10-21-2004, 01:32 PM

ś polish letter code for html: &#347* use ";" instead of "*" and paste it on place of letter you want to use, so users reading will have correct letter displayed.. ie: Zoœka should be Zośka

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"*" replace with ";"

MACK for foreginers alt+l doesn't work :)

mack pl

10-21-2004, 01:37 PM

MACK for foreginers alt+l doesn't work :)

:lol: damn :cantbeli:

p-)

Dominique

10-21-2004, 01:43 PM

Sorry about that mack_pl :oops: , Your name is now corrected. I'll wait for REMOV to check over my info on weapons.

Just out of curiousity, does anyone have any info on the new Polish AF SAR unit?

mack pl

10-21-2004, 01:54 PM

Sorry about that mack_pl :oops: , Your name is now corrected. I'll wait for REMOV to check over my info on weapons.

Just out of curiousity, does anyone have any info on the new Polish AF SAR unit?
its not so "new" ;)
1 Lotnicza Grupa Poszukiwawczo-Ratunkowa from Bydgoszcz.
1st Air SAR group(?)

anyway, its few Mi8 and Sokół helos, and few medics(doctors). Few yrs ago they had trained with 1PSK operators(10 guys team), but I dont know what they are doing now....maybe Kruglerek has more info.

anyway, I have news for you mate- Poland has new SF unit-Oddział Specjalny Żandarmerii Wojskowej (Special Unit Military Police)...its our new CT team, from Warsaw. I guess Kruglerek will have some new infos, or maybe even pics in next week ;) They will have some show in TV I guess(maybe).... :D

Regards

Dominique

10-21-2004, 02:07 PM

mack pl

10-21-2004, 02:18 PM

Thanks for the update on the new unit and the Air Rescue Group. A few more requets though.

1) Does anyone have good pic of 1PSK's ensignia?

2) does anyone have any info on the planned special operations command?

1)
http://www.wp.mil.pl/auths/62/files/3ec0db862e767_gr4_1.jpg

2) well, If IM correct we have only-Oddział Specjalny(Special Detechment?) in General Staff of our army, but its not some independent command, like Land Forces Command for example. Its some advisors group for our army commander(gen.Piatas). BTW he have some special SF assistant(ge.Kempara) .

damn gramma :cantbeli:

p-)

Brzeczyszczykiewicz

10-21-2004, 02:27 PM

About the professionalism of the 1 PSK- all combat units of the Regiment are fully proffesional.
Conscripts may serve only as support staff (cooks, guards, technicians etc.). Last conscripts will finish their service by the end of December.

Second- I may be wrong, but the the reduction plans are doubtful (or at least I didn't heard about any...)

mack pl

10-21-2004, 03:31 PM

REMOV

10-21-2004, 04:47 PM

The 1PSK armories are currently in a state of flux as the unit tries to upgrade the equipment used by it’s operators. Weapons in use by the unit include the P94 WIST 9mm Para pistolsAlso 9mm x 18 P-83 and some demonstration models of other pistols.
kbs wz. 96 Beryl 5.56mm assault rifles and kbk wz. 96 Mini-Beryl 5.56mm carbines. Ekhm... Mini-Beryl is only used by Formoza and some units of Military Police (Zandarmeria Wojskowa).
(many of the weapons have been modified with the addition of fore-grips, laser aiming devices, aiming lights/illumination devices, and various optics such as Tasco telescopic scopes and/or night vision devices)Yes, right, they are "field modification", but the Beryls evolve to the wz.04 standard, with additional foregrip and MIL-STD-1913 rails.

BTW - some of such "field modification" example (courtesy of Coyote)
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/inne/_Beryl_wz.96M_01.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/inne/_Beryl_wz.96M_02.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/inne/_Beryl_wz.96M_03.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/inne/_Beryl_wz.96M_04.jpg
PKMP 7.62mm machineguns. Ekhm... "km PK" or just PK machineguns (GPMG).
Unit snipers are equipped with the Finnish 7.62mm SAKO TRG-21 and Dragonov sniper rifles.Sako TRG-21 and TRG-22. BTW - Dragunov, but in Poland called "kbw SWD".

The 1.PSK is one of two Polish units which soldiers can use non standard equipment, so they can buy pieces of it which suits them well. Some of those equipments then became a standard ones (tactical vest for example).

FDF_Hemppis

10-21-2004, 05:17 PM

Just out of curiosity Remov: is there any particular reason Poland chose to use 7.62mm Sakos instead of .338LM? (i.e. TGR-41/2)

But in any case, great rifles you have :)

REMOV

10-21-2004, 05:48 PM

Just out of curiosity Remov: is there any particular reason Poland chose to use 7.62mm Sakos instead of .338LM? (i.e. TGR-41/2)7,62mm x 51 (7,62mm NATO) ammunition. And costs of .338 Lapua Magnum (and barrels) ammo.

Dominique

10-22-2004, 07:20 AM

OK, I made the changes, any others you guys can think of?

zealot

10-22-2004, 07:36 AM

Nice pics REMOV!

mack pl

10-22-2004, 08:29 AM

OK, I made the changes, any others you guys can think of?

you forgot about PKMP ;) Look what Remov said ;)

btw maybe you should mention that If you want to be a soldier in combat group you must finnished selection course(like in Grom)...If Im not mistaken 1PSK selection is organized in Kotlina kłodzka in southern-west Poland, in Sudety mountains(polish-czech border)...

Regards :)

sheroo

10-22-2004, 05:53 PM

[quote="-Max-"]Nice pics, REMOV. :D

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/16.jpg

What is the Bi-plane for Reccon??????????

Musashi

10-22-2004, 07:34 PM

What is the Bi-plane for Reccon??????????
Its our Ming-era An-2 :P Its not for recon, but parachute jumping (training).

CRAZY MERC

10-22-2004, 09:32 PM

Very good pictures.

Initiative

10-22-2004, 10:32 PM

Wow great photos, Poland rocks! :D

0#256

10-22-2004, 10:36 PM

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/02.jpg
Is this the same UBA (underwater breathing apparatus) that americans use?

moughoun

10-23-2004, 12:56 AM

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/02.jpg
Is this the same UBA (underwater breathing apparatus) that americans use?
everyone uses Drager's ;)

madmike

10-23-2004, 04:13 AM

everyone uses Drager's ;)

Polish SF uses French rebreathers; 1PSK and Formoza OXY-NG2; GROM combat divers use OXY-NG2, OXY-NG3 and OXY-MIX.

mack pl

10-24-2004, 08:22 AM

pics stolen from
http://www.sfd.pl/temat121814/strona16/
p-)

http://www.sfd.pl/1/images2004/20041013151047.jpg
http://www.sfd.pl/1/images2004/20041013152240.jpg

pzdr :D

Edit

and from another site(stolen of course) :oops:
Note:Im not 100% sure he is 1PSK, but judging by his vest and upgradet Beryl he is ;)
http://www.miwo-military.com/images/foto.jpg

Dominique

10-26-2004, 10:19 PM

Thanks for the updated pics. :D

tony6

10-29-2004, 05:37 PM

PSK operator photo taken from the Gore-Tex commercial:
http://img28.exs.cx/img28/8225/PSK1.jpg
...and another PSK soldier (cover of the "Polska Zbrojna" magazine):
http://img28.exs.cx/img28/2787/PSK3.jpg

moughoun

10-29-2004, 05:50 PM

madmike

10-29-2004, 06:16 PM

I have a question,would the relationship between the 1.PSK and GROM be similar to the one between the Australian SASR and 4 RAR (commando) in mission profile's and style, or is the 1.PSK mearly an elite infantry unit like the Royal marines?

GROM is subordinated directly to the ministry of defence; 1PSK is the part of the Army (land forces). So, the relationship between this units is very similar to the relationship between Green Berets and 1SFOD in US Military, but there are some analogy to the Aussies too. Anyway - 1PSK is the SF unit, not an infantry.

moughoun

10-29-2004, 06:39 PM

Onyks

10-29-2004, 11:38 PM

Thanks for the new pictures, our troops are looking more and more impressive! :D

NicNZ

10-30-2004, 12:47 AM

http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/formoza/16.jpg

Guy in white: "They told me there would be SNOW!"

J-10

10-30-2004, 01:06 AM

Nice Polish diver.

mack pl

10-30-2004, 08:52 AM

http://www.polska-zbrojna.pl/img/artykul/710.jpg
http://www.plus-minus.imax.com.pl/theme/1PS_Lubliniec.gif
http://www.ranger.pl/nasz_duze/1025.jpg

tony6

10-30-2004, 09:44 AM

Man-that photo is pretty old :D

mack pl

10-30-2004, 10:16 AM

Man-that photo is pretty old :D

hehe, so? :P

pozdro :)

wholagun

10-30-2004, 01:16 PM

Man-that photo is pretty old :D

going back to the beginging, old school style. :)

tony6

10-30-2004, 02:40 PM

Looking at it you can actually see how many things has changed in this unit (PSK) during last few years.

Dominique

11-24-2004, 02:25 PM

Well I finally got around to doing the update on the Polish Navy's GSP/Formoza. Please feel free to point out any mistakes you can find.

Poland’s

Grupa Specjalna Pletwonurkow
(GSP)
Naval Special Frogman Group
“FORMOZA”

What may come as a surprise to many observers of the world’s military elites is that Poland maintains a large, highly trained, but relatively unknown special operations capability. One of the least known of these units is the Polish Navy’s Grupa Specjalna Pletwonurkow (GSP - Naval Special Combat Diver Group), which is more commonly known in the Polish media as “Formoza”.

Founded in 1975, under the command of Cmdr. Jozef Rembisz, the GSP is an elite group of specially selected and trained combat divers. Very little information on the unit’s activities and training is publicly available. What is known is that the unit operates as part of the Polish Navy’s reconnaissance vessels group (GOR) and that it maintains it’s headquarters on a small island near the port entrance of the Gdynia-Oksywie naval base. Reports have stated that the GSP is approximately 30-men strong, and that it is divided into several 4-man operational teams.

The unit’s operators are reportedly trained to conduct a wide range of naval special warfare activities, including naval base interdiction; naval reconnaissance operations; force protection; maritime interdiction and ship boarding operations; counter-mine operations; and they recently began training for maritime counter-terrorism (CT) operations. As part of it’s effort to expand its capabilities, the unit has begun conducting joint CT tactics training with a number of military and civilian specialist forces, including the Gdansk Police anti-terrorism unit. They also conduct maritime interdiction operations training (capturing/boarding enemy vessels) with the ABW and Polish Coast Guard.

Since the fall of communism, and with Poland gaining membership in NATO, the unit has initiated contact with a number of similar western units including: the French Commando Marine units and units of the Royal Netherlands Marine Corps.

The few reports of the unit’s operations have stated that it has conducted a number of maritime interdiction missions in Persian Gulf in support of the Global War on Terrorism. During the recent hostilities in Iraq, a 12 man team of GSP divers reportedly operated alongside the GROM special operations unit, and conducted several joint operations alongside US and Australian special operations forces. During Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) operations were launched from the Polish naval vessel ORP Kontradmiral X. Czernicki (OWL-511) which was stationed in the Gulf (the ship was operating as part of the US 5th Fleet at that time). Formoza operators have also conducted numerous maritime security patrols for allied vessels docked in Polish ports.

Photos of the unit have shown them using a wide range of both indigenous and recently acquired western equipment including: “Fritz” style Kevlar ballistic helmets, recently acquired navy blue Nomex flame retardant suits, and black Norwegian produced tactical vests for CT operations. Camouflage uniforms consist of Polish “Pantera” and “Pustynna Pantera” patterns, US “Woodland Pattern”, and Polish "Pantera" patern Gore-Tex jackets and trousers. For dive operations the unit makes use of both dry and wetsuits, SCUBA gear, and a French produced bubble-less re-breather system, the ONX-NG2.

The unit’s armory is stocked with a mixture of US, German, Swiss and Polish manufactured weapons including: SiG/Saur P-226, WIST 94 9mm pistols, H&K MP-5 (some of which are equipped with Sure-Fire tactical lights) and Glauberyt PM-84P 9mm sub-machineguns, kbs Beryl wz.96 5.56mm assault rifles, kbk Mini-Beryl wz.96 5.56mm carbines (which have been equipped with telescopic scopes), kbk AKMS 7.62mm assault rifles, Remington 870 12-guage shotguns, and PKMP/PKSM 7.62mm general purpose machineguns.

*NOTE*

A very special thanks to REMOV, mack_pl, and Kruglerek and everyone else from www.militaryphotos.net for all the help they provided in preparing this article.[/i]

mack pl

11-24-2004, 02:39 PM

During the recent hostilities in Iraq, a 12 man team of GSP divers reportedly operated alongside the GROM special operations unit, and conducted several joint operations alongside US and Australian special operations forces.
IIRC Formoza send only 4 (!) soldiers to Persian Gulf during OIF....but its not for sure..

Photos of the unit have shown them using a wide range of both indigenous and recently acquired western equipment including: “Fritz” style Kevlar ballistic helmets, recently acquired navy blue Nomex flame retardant suits,
I would say, they are wearing green Nomex suits.

and black Norwegian produced tactical vests for CT operations. Camouflage uniforms consist of Polish “Pantera” and “Pustynna Pantera” patterns, US “Woodland Pattern” Gore-Tex jackets and trousers.
well, I Think they are wearing Polish "Pantera" Gore-Tex jacets and trousers, like other Polish units

PKMP/PKSM 7.62mm light machineguns.
look what Remov said

A very special thanks to mack_pl ;)

well, maybe Kruglerek or other Poles could verify my infos ;)

Regards :D
mack pl

EDIT

"km PK" or just PK machineguns (GPMG).

Dominique

11-24-2004, 03:15 PM

Thanks for the clarifications on the MGs. As far as the Goretex goes, I've now seen photos of them wearing both US and Polish camo paterns. I go back in my files and re-read the old news articles on their deployment during OIF and I'll see what else I can dig up.

Stormy

11-24-2004, 03:19 PM

Good stuff good stuff. woot

Dominique

11-24-2004, 06:42 PM

OK, I made few minor changes. How's it look now?

mack pl

11-25-2004, 04:47 AM

OK, I made few minor changes. How's it look now?

IMO good.....except my nickname ;) :lol:

Regards
mack pl :D

EDIT

1PSK in Iraq
http://img12.exs.cx/img12/1922/20041107135644.jpg

Dominique

11-25-2004, 09:39 AM

OK, I made few minor changes. How's it look now?

IMO good.....except my nickname ;) :lol:

Oooopsss.... sorry about that. :oops: It's corrected now.

mack pl

11-26-2004, 04:04 AM

http://img14.exs.cx/img14/4861/l11PSKcomputers.jpg
http://img14.exs.cx/img14/8392/1PSKZIma1.jpg

tony6

11-28-2004, 04:09 AM

Already been posted but in different thread.
The guy on the right is 1st PSK soldier (gen. Ekiert-commander of 3rd shift in the middle):
http://img106.exs.cx/img106/3023/mirak4_2.jpg
and older photo (second shift of Polish contingent), PSK solders with gen. Bieniek:
http://img106.exs.cx/img106/6539/PSK_.jpg

Kruglerek

05-10-2005, 06:26 AM

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/513/kon_irak3_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/513/kon_irak15_2.jpg

fantassin

05-10-2005, 06:29 AM

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/513/kon_irak15_2.jpg

Is it the normal Polish military salute ?

mack pl

05-10-2005, 06:45 AM

nope, they have problems with fingers :|

j/k

yes, its our tradition to salute like that :)

Herrmannek

05-10-2005, 06:49 AM

Yup its standard polish salute... Quotes from old topic:

Is it just me or did Polish Major General Andrzej Tyszkiewicz just give the boy scout salute?
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=410772

Just You. This is the Polish Army way of saluting. We also don't salute if our head is not covered with helemt or hat. In this situation saluting soldier stands in atention and turns head in direction of person to whom he is saluting without hand move. So don't be sad if polish soldier will not salute to you in US army way :)

Yeah-it's a tradition.
I heard that it came from a soldier saluting with two of his fingers being shot off during the battle. But I'm not sure of that.There are several version describing origuns of Polish military salute:
- artilleryman salute after Battle of Olszynka Grochowska (November Uprising 1830-1), guy hadn't two fingers. Then, like a new fashion the salute stays. Another versoins says, that it was a knight after the Battle of Grunwald (14 April 1410),
- Kosciuszko Uprising, the other legend says, that T. Kosciuszko had a problem with a hand (some hand paralysis) during a Cracowian Oath (24 March 1794), so he had to salute in this way. Other vesions says that salute represent the unity of three part of Poland after Annexation.

Poles want to had their own salute during Annexation times to identify each other, and distinguish from other nations.

Is it just me or did Polish Major General Andrzej Tyszkiewicz just give the boy scout salute?The Boy Scout salute is a little bit different, they uses THREE not TWO fingers like Polish soldiers. But you're right, they are similar (and Gen. Tyszkiewicz a little bit looks like old version of a Boy Scout ;) )
http://www.inquiry.net/images/thb015.gif

fantassin

05-10-2005, 06:56 AM

Thanks for the information !

mack pl

05-10-2005, 07:12 AM

Herrmannek

05-10-2005, 07:14 AM

mack pl

05-10-2005, 07:18 AM

We also don't salute if our head is not covered with helemt or hat

not anymore. Since we joined NATO, we can salute even If we havent got helmet, or berret on the head... Ive read about that in PZ or ZP, it was article about our soldiers in Lebanon...
I hope can doesn't mean must...

you know...when Polish soldier meet American(or French, whatever) soldier and he havent got berret(or smth) on the head, it would be funny when his allie would salute to him, and our brave soldier only shake his hand :lol:

anyway, Im not 100% sure, so Ive asked about that on Polish military forum....I'll wait for answer...

tenda

05-10-2005, 08:21 AM

very interesting poost and pic's tnx... :P

Catch22

05-10-2005, 09:05 PM

Some recent pictures from Krav Maga training course with 1 PSK soldiers. Instructors are form Israel and Poland. Most equipment used in this kind of training are old AK's and PM's since but also note my beloved rubber AK with bayonet - it is used for hand to hand training, heavy as real piece. Full set consists of rubber knife, pistol (both can be seen on pics), and a military spade :) (also rubber). Mind this rubber is hard and heavy one - like one used for tires so it's not fun when you get hit with it.

http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/l10.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/l13.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/l25.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/l5.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/l9.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l1.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l11.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l12.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l2.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l20.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l21.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l23.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l24.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l26.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l4.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l6.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l7.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l9.jpg

And official note to the head instructor from CO of 1PSK.
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/cz/l_ey_.jpg

goldman

05-10-2005, 09:12 PM

Some recent pictures from Krav Maga training course with 1 PSK soldiers. Instructors are form Israel and Poland. Most equipment used in this kind of training are old AK's and PM's since but also note my beloved rubber AK with bayonet - it is used for hand to hand training, heavy as real piece. Full set consists of rubber knife, pistol (both can be seen on pics), and a military spade :) (also rubber). Mind this rubber is hard and heavy one - like one used for tires so it's not fun when you get hit with it.

http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/l10.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/l13.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/l25.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/l5.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/l9.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l1.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l11.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l12.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l2.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l20.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l21.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l23.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l24.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l26.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l4.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l6.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l7.jpg
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l9.jpg

And official note to the head instructor form CO of 1PSK
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/cz/l_ey_.jpg

Sweet pics Catch22, thank you for shering it with us :hug: woot woot

Herrmannek

05-11-2005, 12:46 PM

Is it possible to buy such rubber gun? I wanted to have such thing for long long time :)

Onyks

05-11-2005, 03:00 PM

Interesting mixture of DPM and our wz.93

mack pl

05-11-2005, 03:15 PM

Interesting mixture of DPM and our wz.93

If you are reffering to this guy
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l12.jpg

I think he is Israeli instructor
(guy in blue T-shirt)
http://www.kravmaga.com.pl/image/lubl/1/l4.jpg

but, few years ago, our soldiers(from 1 PSK) had some British DPM goretex uniforms...but they dont use them anymore If Im correct ;)

Catch22

05-11-2005, 06:18 PM

Is it possible to buy such rubber gun? I wanted to have such thing for long long time :)

Try Allegro, it shows up there sometimes. I got there a full set for training. Normally we use just knives and pistols (imitating roughly makarow/P64/P83) in training. Military KM guys often saw off the bayonet in rubber AKs since its not often used in engagements today (although I remember the Brits in Iraq). I'll try to ask If I can fix you one for a reasonable price Herman - if you want of course.

Herrmannek

05-11-2005, 07:07 PM

And roughly how much set xor rifle can cost?

tony6

05-17-2005, 12:37 PM

Gen.Skrzypczak and his bodyguards from 1.PSK (distribution of food to local residents):
http://img225.echo.cx/img225/3098/foto115ad.jpg
http://img225.echo.cx/img225/1267/foto124zi.jpg
The guys in the back, with Beryl + EOTech sights:
http://img225.echo.cx/img225/5826/foto132is.jpg
http://img225.echo.cx/img225/4337/foto144vx.jpg
http://img225.echo.cx/img225/6352/foto151tu.jpg

wholagun

05-17-2005, 02:09 PM

wasn't the Jewish guy that thought up Karv Magna born in Poland?

mack pl

05-17-2005, 02:18 PM

nope, he was born in Bratislava, Slovakia ;)

tony6

05-19-2005, 12:31 PM

Gen.Casey and gen.Skrzypczak bodyguarding:
http://img34.echo.cx/img34/1985/foto161nu.jpg
http://img34.echo.cx/img34/3161/foto175qm.jpg

Dominique

05-19-2005, 01:19 PM

I've noticed HMMWVs in several of the pics. Is 1PSK using them now or just GROM?

tony6

05-19-2005, 01:22 PM

About 30 up-armoured Hum-vs are being used by Polish forces in Iraq for patrol duties (along with 80 Honkers).

mack pl

05-19-2005, 01:55 PM

I've noticed HMMWVs in several of the pics. Is 1PSK using them now or just GROM?

since december 2004 there is no GROM soldiers in Iraq. We have only 56 guys from 1 PSK in Iraq now.

Anyway, as Tony6 said, our divison have 31 HMMWV's, and 1 PSK also using them, but it doesn't mean't they have exactly one of those 31 HHMWV's...its quite possible that they are using vehicles from 5th SFG(same as GROM was using vehicles from 3rd SFG). Guys from 1PSK received also some equipment from American partners(5th SFG), for example Falcon II radio, Mossberg shotguns, night vision googles etc.

Regards
mack pl

Robal2pl

05-30-2005, 09:02 AM

Hi all, Formoza operates in six-man teams, and has 36 members (6 teams). Is a part of Grupa Okretow Rozpoznawczych (Recon Ships Group),
Robal2pl

tony6

06-06-2005, 01:04 PM

Gen.Skrzypczak bodyguarding once more (note the camo-scotch taped EOTech:)
http://img161.echo.cx/img161/2134/foto186ly.jpg

Onyks

06-06-2005, 03:19 PM

Great pictures, is the fellow in the back Ukrainian in the last one?

tony6

06-06-2005, 03:41 PM

I don't know but his camo looks similar to Ukrainian.

madmike

06-10-2005, 07:03 PM

Photos of 1PSK operators taken during the V Rotation of Polish Contingent in Iraq final exercise
http://foto.pap.com.pl/midi_galerie/5640/gal_5640_0028.jpg
http://foto.pap.com.pl/midi_galerie/5640/gal_5640_0001.jpg
http://foto.pap.com.pl/midi_galerie/5640/gal_5640_0002.jpg
All photos from PAP site

tony6

06-11-2005, 02:48 AM

Iraqi assault team ("THE STRIKERS") training:
http://img133.echo.cx/img133/7884/zdiecienaforum2zmniejszone9hj.jpg
http://img133.echo.cx/img133/5051/zdieciegotowenaforum1zmniejszo.jpg

Weasel

06-11-2005, 03:02 AM

http://img133.echo.cx/img133/7884/zdiecienaforum2zmniejszone9hj.jpg

Firing squad? :P

tony6

06-11-2005, 03:10 AM

Firing squad?
I got the similar coupling :)

mack pl

06-11-2005, 03:39 AM

good pics mike and tony ;)

btw
http://foto.pap.com.pl/midi_galerie/5640/gal_5640_0002.jpg
what kind of holster is that? some polish holster or Safariland?

madmike

06-11-2005, 05:36 AM

what kind of holster is that? some polish holster or Safariland?
It's Safariland holster i think. I've heard that model prepared for Beretta M9 is suitable for Wist pistol too.

tony6

06-15-2005, 01:52 AM

PSK, night action:
http://img206.echo.cx/img206/1216/recon0043xo.jpg
http://img299.echo.cx/img299/865/recon0143jq.jpg
http://img150.echo.cx/img150/1749/recon0070bp.jpg

tony6

06-15-2005, 11:17 AM

P.S.
Previous photos (night action): courtesy of Hanzo.

And once again - bodyguarding (PSK):
http://img161.echo.cx/img161/5606/foto193ku.jpg
http://img161.echo.cx/img161/6595/foto212cu.jpg

tony6

06-24-2005, 04:13 PM

PSK:
Photos from multinational EUPHRATES exercise (final exercise of the Polish 5th contingent before departure to Iraq).
The opening veremony (first raw):
http://www.2kz.mil.pl/euphrates/foto/galeria001/_gallery/images/img_DSCF1492.JPG
Gen. Tyszkiewicz (commander of the 1st shift in Iraq) arrival:
http://www.2kz.mil.pl/euphrates/foto/galeria002/_gallery/images/img_DSCF1624.JPG
http://www.2kz.mil.pl/euphrates/foto/galeria002/_gallery/images/img_DSCF1633.JPG
...some random photos:
http://www.2kz.mil.pl/euphrates/foto/galeria002/_gallery/images/img_DSCF1749.JPG
http://www.2kz.mil.pl/euphrates/foto/galeria002/_gallery/images/img_DSCF1763.JPG
...and VIP day (gen.Pietrzyk and gen.Bieniek visit):
http://www.2kz.mil.pl/euphrates/foto/galeria004/_gallery/images/img_DSCF1818.JPG
http://www.2kz.mil.pl/euphrates/foto/galeria004/_gallery/images/img_DSCF1820.JPG
http://www.2kz.mil.pl/euphrates/foto/galeria004/_gallery/images/img_DSCF1835.JPG
The whole exercise gallery:
http://www.2kz.mil.pl/euphrates/kopytko.htm

wholagun

06-24-2005, 04:36 PM

post more pics.

The Poles have become lazy recently, there are no new Polish militayr pics or info on new equipment. :bash: Lazy bums.

tony6

06-24-2005, 05:07 PM

I bet the dialogue was something like this: ;)
http://img183.echo.cx/img183/4792/imgdscf1492mod3vj.jpg

Maciek

06-25-2005, 03:55 AM

rofl rofl rofl

Drako

06-25-2005, 09:51 AM

The whole exercise gallery:
http://www.2kz.mil.pl/euphrates/kopytko.htm

I have to admit that those are interesting pics. Thx!

Herrmannek

06-25-2005, 10:04 AM

I rarely speak about rags, but i noticed our shirts/blouses are to tie in belly area :)

Drako

06-25-2005, 11:21 AM

I rarely speak about rags, but i noticed our shirts/blouses are to tie in belly area :)

I guess you mean our generals? :P Give it few more years and most of them will be retired.

Herrmannek

06-25-2005, 11:24 AM

I rarely speak about rags, but i noticed our shirts/blouses are to tie in belly area :)

I guess you mean our generals? :P Give it few more years and most of them will be retired.
lets don't talk about obvious :). Still our bluses are cut to be to tie and they expose any flaw in the area. You must have perfectly shaped belly to look good in them...

tony6

09-29-2005, 01:28 PM

Ok ladies, some pretty new stuff from Iraq for you.
MEDEVAC training for UH-60 Blackhawk: 25th AirCav + few 1st PSK operators (guess who is who?:). The scenario was that one of AirCav guys was hit during the patrol.
Enjoy.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1656/dscn28682ke.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3786/dscn28694hj.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3861/dscn28700fy.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9457/dscn28717fr.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5434/dscn28722sg.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/5615/dscn28730wl.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/7627/dscn28746oa.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/2364/dscn28752oz.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/6613/dscn28769nx.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/102/dscn28777ui.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/1396/dscn28788kp.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/9489/dscn28791eu.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/696/dscn28807mh.jpg

Ok. I live in the my friend's apartment right now and there is a modem :cantbeli: connection (who's got modem in XXI century?? women...) so I'll put the rest later 'cause it's freakin' slow.

flanker7

09-29-2005, 01:34 PM

http://img161.echo.cx/img161/6595/foto212cu.jpg

Why is the Air Force General wearing a Navy's utility cap?

tony6

10-01-2005, 09:54 AM

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7679/dscn28816hg.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/5093/dscn28826sa.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/2880/dscn28838jq.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3654/dscn28849ne.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1921/dscn28852vg.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1471/dscn28862ww.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/853/dscn28870nj.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/392/dscn28894fp.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8837/dscn28903xk.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3650/dscn28927zq.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1776/dscn28932mi.jpg

mack pl

10-01-2005, 10:16 AM

thanks for pics.

ahhh, WIST and Beryl.....nevermind..

tony6

10-01-2005, 10:21 AM

What's wrong with Beryl, dude?

mack pl

10-01-2005, 10:31 AM

What's wrong with Beryl, dude?

well, nothing wrong, but I'd like to see smth different in our SF

Rzez

10-01-2005, 01:57 PM

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2981/kamizelka6bv.jpg

Janysport's Vest

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5807/plecak1dt.jpg

1 - Janysport's PP25 backpack (I've got the same yeah! :)
2 - What kind of pouch is that? Is it this one for 200 rounds?

Catch22

10-01-2005, 05:48 PM

Those large pouches may be a MIWO thingy, done on request. Both MIWO boys J. i M. are from 1PSK.

tony6

10-02-2005, 02:06 AM

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/6480/dscn28956gx.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/5168/dscn28962ji.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/9393/dscn28973ap.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8738/dscn28986ci.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/4346/dscn28997ky.jpg
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tony6

10-03-2005, 01:02 PM

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tony6

10-06-2005, 02:21 AM

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8726/dscn29257jm.jpg
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/2879/dscn29264az.jpg
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http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/2705/dscn29282jr.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/745/dscn29311tp.jpg
And two photos from different situation:
Check out the details: self made "save a gunner" turret mounted on the PSK Honker
and (lower picture) camo-painted Beryl - modified safety lever plus radio button attached to the pistol grip.
http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/7048/dscn29326wl.jpg
http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/228/dscn29343ju.jpg

mack pl

10-06-2005, 07:11 AM

interesting googles

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10-06-2005, 11:51 AM

Smok

10-06-2005, 12:21 PM

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/7048/dscn29326wl.jpg

two watches at once? are those his war captures?!?

I remember my father reminiscing me about russian soldiers he has seen during WWII that were wearing loads of hand watches at once. guess where did they get them from...

Probably compass not watch.

BTW I heard that photo of russian soldiers placing flag on Reichstag was "photoshoped" (I can't find better word :D ) because soldiers showed on it had many watches on arms :)

wholagun

10-06-2005, 01:50 PM

interesting googles

yeah they are. Are they Polish made?

mack pl

10-06-2005, 02:35 PM

interesting googles

yeah they are. Are they Polish made?

I have no idea...anyone?

Zielony

10-06-2005, 02:39 PM

^ Brenda ??

McLane

10-06-2005, 02:40 PM

Can you post more /bigger Pics of the polish Standard-Assault-Rifle? A Weapon-on-white-backround-in-1300*1400 would be nice! ;)

Rzez

10-06-2005, 03:41 PM

Search for "Beryl" (I bet you meant it by the phrase "Standard-Assault-Rifle") on MP forum or by Google.

kapral

10-06-2005, 04:05 PM

interesting googles

yeah they are. Are they Polish made?

I have no idea...anyone?

looks similiar to WileyX cqc

REMOV

10-11-2005, 02:44 PM

Can you post more /bigger Pics of the polish Standard-Assault-Rifle? A Weapon-on-white-backround-in-1300*1400 would be nice! ;)Something like that? ;)

http://www.militech.sownet.pl/inne/_Beryl_02.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.pl/inne/_Beryl_03.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.pl/inne/_Beryl_04.jpg

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10-11-2005, 03:08 PM

http://www.militech.sownet.pl/inne/_Beryl_04.jpg
what is that strange belt system? is it ready made with the rifle by the weapon's producer?

Catch22

10-11-2005, 03:37 PM

Are you joking ~~~~?

Sling looks as custom work by 1PSK ops.

Catch22

10-15-2005, 11:43 AM

^I've checked on this and its Janysport sling as confirmed by P.Janyst himself.

Kruglerek

11-14-2005, 09:34 AM

Visit of new Polish Minister of Defence in Iraq:
http://foto.mw.mil.pl/foto.php?vhost=mndcs&id_lg=1442

tony6

12-13-2005, 02:18 AM

Close protection of gen.Czerwiński (note some Iraqi special unit protecting the Iraqi officers):
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/738/lubliniec5zmiana17km.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3493/lubliniec5zmiana23ou.jpg

corran.pl

12-13-2005, 03:31 PM

Can you post more /bigger Pics of the polish Standard-Assault-Rifle? A Weapon-on-white-backround-in-1300*1400 would be nice! ;)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8094/dsc028907ov.jpg

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1253

tony6

12-21-2005, 03:27 AM

But 1st PSK use modified Beryls (front grip + 2 side p-rails).
Another photo:
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/373/psk4zmiana18du.jpg

trytan

06-15-2011, 01:57 PM

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Formoza

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06-15-2011, 02:13 PM

geez, man... how did you find this thread? there a lot to be updated here after 6 years...

trytan

06-15-2011, 02:32 PM

Uncle Google helped me a bit ;)

Stormz_STA

06-15-2011, 02:56 PM

trytan, while you're at it you should post more pics of Formoza and 1. PSK with all their new toys.

:)

wwjs

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