US supreme court on marijuana

[Knutsen]

Following the decision of the Supreme Court of the USA of illegalizing any use of medicinal marijuana i'd like to know what you guys think about marijuana.

About medical use, i know some guys investigating about it in a spanish University (i won't say which one) and their experiments say (apart from the already known pain kill ) that people receiving chemotherapy can't eat. Apparently eating is an extremelly hard process for them, but marijuana allows them to eat without help. In fact , they can eat normally.
With that, and the reports that say smoking marijuana is less harmful than using a cell phone or any other kind electromagnetic field emissor machine i think marijuana should be legalized , at least for madicinal use.

About personal and "leisure" use.. i don't know. I'm an occasional smoker, but i don't think it should be legalized as a "comercial" product. I think it should be ... "allowed". Of course selling and trafficking big quantities should be prosecuted.

Please , keep this thread civilised

[SeanAshi]

There is nothing marijuana can do that legal drugs can't do.

[PhillyMobster]

Personally, I'm opposed to marijuana, and I don't like the idea of guys sitting around on street corners getting stoned. However, I've come to the conclusion that a few ounces of weed is not worth the life of a police officer, and we've lost entirely too many as a result of some stupid inner city shoot-out. If its legalized, and regulated to the same degree that alcohol is, we'd be able to concentrate on the more serious drugs that actually kill people. Also, I agree with the common logic that if its legalized, use will spike for a short period, and then drop off, simply because its legal. Maybe I'm way off base, but thats just my opinion.

[Aerosoul]

It doesn't matter of its legal or not.

There's no point in the courts wasting time and money figuring it out. People will still smoke weed every day, regardless.

[EvanL]

It doesn't matter of its legal or not.

There's no point in the courts wasting time and money figuring it out. People will still smoke weed every day, regardless.
Well with it still being illegal, with people smoking it every day it will matter because the courts will still be overflowing with cases regarding marijuana possession.

[PeterRJG]

It doesn't matter of its legal or not.

There's no point in the courts wasting time and money figuring it out. People will still smoke weed every day, regardless.

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[soma]

There is nothing marijuana can do that legal drugs can't do.

Legal drugs cost a ****ing fortune.

[HaRdLy]

There is nothing marijuana can do that legal drugs can't do.

Not give you serious side-effects

:bash:

[Lokos]

Eventually, the common law will catch up with communal sensibilities if they do change. The first step to legalizing marijuana would be to make the community at large accept it as a viable alternative to legal medicines and drugs. When that happens, legalization or tacit acceptance by the courts is only so far behind.

So don't blame the courts for not legalizing marijuana without public support. Judges have a responsibility to reassess precedent if it's obvious that it has become outdated and decreipt. Most people, however, still see marijuana as something that is harmful and should be avoided. Change their minds, and the courts will follow suit.

Lokos

[Knutsen]

It doesn't matter of its legal or not.

There's no point in the courts wasting time and money figuring it out. People will still smoke weed every day, regardless.

It's not about people smoking it everyday, which surely will happen, it's aboout doctors being able to prescript it for people who really need it.


However, I've come to the conclusion that a few ounces of weed is not worth the life of a police officer, and we've lost entirely too many as a result of some stupid inner city shoot-out.
Yeah, and also is stupid to go to jail just because you have a few ounces at home.


If its legalized, and regulated to the same degree that alcohol is, we'd be able to concentrate on the more serious drugs that actually kill people.

Agreed. Alcohol kills far too many people, either due to car accidents or ethilic intoxication.

[vote for Pedro]

A few legal facts:

Last year the US Supreme Court ruled that doctors CAN recommend marijuana to thier patients, and the Feds cannot arrest and prosecute doctors who recommend it. This still is the law today.

Last week the US Supreme Court Ruled that the Federal Government CAN arrest and prosecute patients who use, grow, and cultivate marijuana with a doctors recommendation. (even though the same court says doctors can recommend it.)

Last weeks Supreme court ruling DID NOT overrule, cancel, or do away with, the laws of the 12 states that allow the use of medical marijuana. The Court ruling did not affect the 12 state laws allowing medical marijuana. It merely means that the Feds can arrest and prosecute even though the state law enforcement agencies still can not.

The use of medical marijuana by a doctors recommendation is still legal in 12 states. In thoses states, the Federal government can arrest and prosecute medical marijuana users, but the local, city and state law enforcement agencies can not.

[soma]

I would only imagine federal agents would intervene if the medicinal users were abusing the privledge.

[vote for Pedro]

I would only imagine federal agents would intervene if the medicinal users were abusing the privledge.

Unfortunately that is not the case. The case that was just ruled on by the Supreme Court involved Ann Raich, a terminally ill woman with an inoperable brain tumor, who, under her doctor's supervision, and within California state law, used medical marijuana. Her friend, another terminally ill woman who used under a doctor's supervision, and within California law, was raided by a DEA SWAT team wearing ninja hoods and using MP5's. Ann Raich feared the DEA would raid her house too, so she filed a lawsuit to prevent the DEA SWAT team from raiding her house too. Both women were within the California medical marijuana laws and had a good relationship with the local sherriff, police chief and the District Attorney, all who said that both women where using within the law.

The Supreme Court Justice who gave the majority opion last week even commented that the facts of the case were disturbing, but he felt the Feds can arrest and prosecute.

[Vivelamorte]

Following the decision of the Supreme Court of the USA of illegalizing any use of medicinal marijuana i'd like to know what you guys think about marijuana.

About medical use, i know some guys investigating about it in a spanish University (i won't say which one) and their experiments say (apart from the already known pain kill ) that people receiving chemotherapy can't eat. Apparently eating is an extremelly hard process for them, but marijuana allows them to eat without help. In fact , they can eat normally.
With that, and the reports that say smoking marijuana is less harmful than using a cell phone or any other kind electromagnetic field emissor machine i think marijuana should be legalized , at least for madicinal use.

About personal and "leisure" use.. i don't know. I'm an occasional smoker, but i don't think it should be legalized as a "comercial" product. I think it should be ... "allowed". Of course selling and trafficking big quantities should be prosecuted.

Please , keep this thread civilised

That's a dire shame the Supreme Court outlawed the medical use of marijuana. It indeed does help people with chronic diseases to eat etc. It's basically generally accepted knowledge within the world of medicine. However, marijuana has the stigma it has - although it's fairly recent and people have to blame McCarthy for that. I can recall watching reels from the first atom bomb tests, the marines/ navy working to set everything up were indeed smoking marijuana. The officers mess even had a sign on it saying "no **** allowed" (albeit **** with a different spelling).

Anyway, the whole matter is bizarre. You have a plant out there which has a medical value, howevera moral value decides sick people can't use it. Which means that some corporation will soon come out with a pill which contains a synthesized version of THC, which will be okay to swallow. Odd world. Forbidding a plant.

Perhaps someone ought to revive the prohibition and ban hops. And corn.

[Knutsen]

Vivelamorte, that's exactly the point to legalize marijuana. Those plants are something nature gives us. You can walk around the country and find a plant of marijuana because it's there. Other drugs are different, like cocaine, pills...... all those drugs have to go through some kind of chemical process, men have to manipulate it. But marijuana is there, and besides, it has been proven it has beneficial effects for terminally ill people.