FinSwe 05

[joka]

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/logofinswe.jpg

The purpose of this exercise, which is being held the 5th time I think, this time in Nylands Brigad, is to further develope the co-operation between the Finnish and the Swedish coastal-jeagers. To form some sort of Amphibious Task Unit that could be used in the future in various crisis. That's how I got it atleast, feel free to correct me, and/or write more.



The Swedes arrive:
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05a_02.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05a_04.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05a_08.jpg


More Stridsbåt-90:
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05b_18.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05b_07.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05b_09.jpg


Jurmo-class boat:
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_23.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_19.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_21.jpg


G-boat:
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_26.jpg


Various pics:
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_22.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_18.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_16.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05c_29.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05b_06.jpg

There is supposed to be some sort of action going down tonight/ in the days to come, as you might have noticed they were loading the boats. So there should be some more pictures on the way. There still is actually plenty still on the site, I just picked the ones I liked the best.

[Nordmannen]

Looks old.

[Swedish_Marine]

Looks old.
What looks old?

[signatory]

Nordmannen have been busy posting dumb **** in other threads aswell.
Just ignore him.


I like the pics btw.

[Resurrection]

Good pics :)

[ikurinturbiini]

Requirements for a Kustjägare in Sweden: must be tough, fit, hardcore.

Requirements for a Kustjägare in Finland: must speak Swedish. rofl

[panzerjager]

Man, those boats look like fun. Thanks for the pics.

[Luno]

Nice pictures
Stridsbåt M/90 is the **** p-)

[joka]

Requirements for a Kustjägare in Sweden: must be tough, fit, hardcore.

Requirements for a Kustjägare in Finland: must speak Swedish. rofl

I'm qualified! woot
Hajoo me dagarna

[Randomrokottaja]

"Requirements for a Kustjägare in Finland: must speak Swedish."

Wrong (once again). Requirements in Finland are quite same, but swedish speaking skills are not bad at all in swedish speaking training unit (no need to explain more). Worse thing that there is no finnish speaking RanJK, wich would be good to get more finnish speaking men to join it. Actually many people are interested about coastal jaeger training but language problems prevent them to participate.

[Wickwire]

Stritsbåt 90 is a realy fun boat!! The handleing is superb! Can turn like no other boat of that size that I know of. Realy fast too. But not as fast as the rib that the Norwegian MJK is using... damn that was a fast. Couldn't outrun that one :(

[tenda]

really nice pic's tnx,... ;)

[tommy00]

Combat Boat 90 really looks great,what a fine vessel.

[Swedish_Marine]

Stritsbåt 90 is a realy fun boat!! The handleing is superb! Can turn like no other boat of that size that I know of. Realy fast too. But not as fast as the rib that the Norwegian MJK is using... damn that was a fast. Couldn't outrun that one :(

The Strb90H has very little sense of speed since you are seated fairly high above the water line. The G-boat is more fun since its a "cabriolet" so to speak. The RIB you speak of probobly wasn´t faster but the sensation of speed is greater since you´re riding it at the water line just like the G-boat.

Off the record: I agree. Stridsbåt 90 is the ****. woot

/Swedish_Marine. Stridsbåt 90H driver/navigator

[Esko]

Worse thing that there is no finnish speaking RanJK, wich would be good to get more finnish speaking men to join it. Actually many people are interested about coastal jaeger training but language problems prevent them to participate.

Nope, KotRa trains nowadays finnish speaking coastal jaegers.
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/kotra/jaakari.dsp

[sin-R]

Gotta love the speed of the Stridsbåt 90.
If I was ever going into the navy, I'd love to be on one of those!

Great stuff!

[Parzival]

Pretty few pics, Do you have anymore?

[Esko]

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05a_11.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05b_08.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fin_fs05c_07.jpg
Searching for mines
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fin_fs05c_15.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05c_32.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fin_fs05c_24.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_32.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_30.jpg
Stridsbåt makes emergency stop
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_33.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_34.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_35.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_36.jpg
Swedish Lemur turret prototype with 12.7 MG
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_40.jpg
Lemur operator
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_41.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_52.jpg

[McLane]

Cool Pics! I like these little Boats! So cute ;)

[FFanatic]

Great pics! :)

Some equipment used in the exercise by Finns and Swedes:
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/finsweutrustning_fi.dsp

[joka]

Some more:

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05f_04.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05f_06.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05f_05.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05f_15.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05f_17.jpg

[Vivelamorte]

That stridsbot looks interesting! Scandinavian countries have great marine warfare capabilities.

[Bluezoo]

Great pictures! woot

[Rumsfailed]

Is that a H&K GMG I see:


http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/gkinfo.jpg

[Luno]

Is that a H&K GMG I see:


http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/gkinfo.jpg

where do you the GMG ?

[Rumsfailed]

GMG 40mm GRENADE MACHINE GUN
The H&K Grenade Machine Gun (GMG) is currently in use with US Special Operations units, replacing the US MK19 GMG. The H&K GMG is available from series production at a unit cost well below the purchase cost of the MK19.

The H&K GMG features excellent accuracy, operator convertible feed direction, removable barrel and unmatched operator safety. The GMG also has night fighting capability with NVGs.


from:

http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/machine_guns/heckler/

[Wickwire]

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fin_fs05c_24.jpg

New Finnish uniforms :D

[b33f]

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_40.jpg
Why is the barrel cut open on 2 locations?

[panzerjager]

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05e_40.jpg
Why is the barrel cut open on 2 locations?

Demonstration, I would assume.

[Swedish_Marine]

Hrrmm... Correction. The grenade launcher used by the Swedish navy is still the Mk.19.

[goldman]

Great Pics :hug: woot

[joka]

Is that a H&K GMG I see:


http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/gkinfo.jpg

where do you the GMG ?

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/finsweutrustning_sv.dsp

Bottom of the page ;)

[Luno]

Is that a H&K GMG I see:


http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/gkinfo.jpg

where do you the GMG ?

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/finsweutrustning_sv.dsp

Bottom of the page ;)

Heheh thanks mate :D I didn’t know that we did have weapon like that in sweden

[joka]

Is that a H&K GMG I see:


http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/gkinfo.jpg

where do you the GMG ?

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/finsweutrustning_sv.dsp

Bottom of the page ;)

Heheh thanks mate :D I didn’t know that we did have weapon like that in sweden

You probably don't, it's from the Finnish inventory.
Finsk utrustning på vänster, Svensk på höger. :)

[Luno]

Is that a H&K GMG I see:


http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/gkinfo.jpg

where do you the GMG ?

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/finsweutrustning_sv.dsp

Bottom of the page ;)

Heheh thanks mate :D I didn’t know that we did have weapon like that in sweden

You probably don't, it's from the Finnish inventory.
Finsk utrustning på vänster, Svensk på höger. :)


Hehehehe damn stupid me :cantbeli:
But I did some searching on the Swedish armed force page and I did find this photo so it looks like we also use it p-)
http://www.amf4.mil.se/images/local/030611_gsp.jpg

[Swedish_Marine]

@Luno: Nope that´s the Mk.19.

[joka]

An update:

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_13.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_14.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_15.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_17.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_16.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_18.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_24.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_22.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_29.jpg
Swedish Stridsbåt-90 helps a katamaran stuck on a reef.


http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_17.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_19.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_21.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_22.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_23.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_30.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_31.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_33.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_38.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_44.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_47.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_04.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_26.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_36.jpg

[V/E]

great pix woot

[OldRecon]

Stritsbåt 90 is a realy fun boat!! The handleing is superb! Can turn like no other boat of that size that I know of. Realy fast too. But not as fast as the rib that the Norwegian MJK is using... damn that was a fast. Couldn't outrun that one :(

The Strb90H has very little sense of speed since you are seated fairly high above the water line. The G-boat is more fun since its a "cabriolet" so to speak. The RIB you speak of probobly wasn´t faster but the sensation of speed is greater since you´re riding it at the water line just like the G-boat.

Off the record: I agree. Stridsbåt 90 is the ****. woot

/Swedish_Marine. Stridsbåt 90H driver/navigator

We're speaking about a 50 kts RIB here. The speed of the Stridsbåt 90 being around 40 kts?

[Swedish_Marine]

Stritsbåt 90 is a realy fun boat!! The handleing is superb! Can turn like no other boat of that size that I know of. Realy fast too. But not as fast as the rib that the Norwegian MJK is using... damn that was a fast. Couldn't outrun that one :(

The Strb90H has very little sense of speed since you are seated fairly high above the water line. The G-boat is more fun since its a "cabriolet" so to speak. The RIB you speak of probobly wasn´t faster but the sensation of speed is greater since you´re riding it at the water line just like the G-boat.

Off the record: I agree. Stridsbåt 90 is the ****. woot

/Swedish_Marine. Stridsbåt 90H driver/navigator

We're speaking about a 50 kts RIB here. The speed of the Stridsbåt 90 being around 40 kts?

The boat I was issued was brand new at the time. I reached 47 knots with it on a flat calm. But it was empty. No cargo, no troops and no weapons. But it all depends on different circumstanses. But normally the top speed is around 40 knots.

[twominds]

Just a quick question in terms of the capabilities and purpose of the finnish coastal rangers. I know that the swedes, just like their norwegian counterparts, use a portable hellfire firing platform to maintain their capability to defeat, or at least inflict damage to, large vessels at a long distance. read that they are even mounting the hellfires on a gyrostabilized platform in the gunturret of the SB90 in norway now.
So the question is, do the finns have a similar capability and if so what weaponry are the using for this?

[Swedish_Marine]

Just a quick question in terms of the capabilities and purpose of the finnish coastal rangers. I know that the swedes, just like their norwegian counterparts, use a portable hellfire firing platform to maintain their capability to defeat, or at least inflict damage to, large vessels at a long distance. read that they are even mounting the hellfires on a gyrostabilized platform in the gunturret of the SB90 in norway now.
So the question is, do the finns have a similar capability and if so what weaponry are the using for this?

The Swedish Coastal Rangers do not deploy the Hellfire. The amphibious soldiers do. Just to clarify that. There have also been attempts made to fire the hellfire from the Stridsbåt 90H in Sweden but it was preferred to fire them from solid ground.

[twominds]

So the heaviest weaponry the swedes have is the mk 19? interesting difference in doctrine and role.. Not really surprising since the norwegian coastal rangers replace teh coastal fortresses...

[Swedish_Marine]

So the heaviest weaponry the swedes have is the mk 19? interesting difference in doctrine and role.. Not really surprising since the norwegian coastal rangers replace teh coastal fortresses...
That depends on what you´re going to use it for. In terms of firepower it is one of the heaviest MAN PORTABLE anti personell and anti viehcle weapons available in the Swedish military. But there are more versitile weapons available, the GRG m/48 for example which can fire AT-rounds and anti personell fragmentation rounds. Like I said it all depends on what your purpouse with the weapon is.

[twominds]

thanks, but my question was really more as to what capabilities the unit(s) might have against shipping? and from this it seems they are equipped with generally the same weaponry as most other swedish army units? with the exception of the mk 19 as that most likely isn`t standard issue?

[Swedish_Marine]

Then I´ll tell you. The Mk.19 is issued to one of the support sections in the amphibious rifle companies and is not mainly used for anti shipping. The weaponry used for anti shipping is the Hellfire which is deployed by the missile platoon of the amphibious company. During the days of the coastal artillry up untill october 2000 the coastal artillery deployed heavy anty ship missile batteries. The RBS15, launched from Scania trucks. They also used the 12/80 Karin howitzer to fire shells at ships from inland positions. The six amphibious battalions were to delay enemies coming through the archipelagos, using the hellfire and a Swedish sea-mine system called M9.

Since the coastal artillery no longer exists, the RBS15 and the 12/80 are no longer in use. However they are experimenting with new ways to use them. The RBS15 is launched from naval vessels and fighter aircraft.

[joka]

Just a quick question in terms of the capabilities and purpose of the finnish coastal rangers. I know that the swedes, just like their norwegian counterparts, use a portable hellfire firing platform to maintain their capability to defeat, or at least inflict damage to, large vessels at a long distance. read that they are even mounting the hellfires on a gyrostabilized platform in the gunturret of the SB90 in norway now.
So the question is, do the finns have a similar capability and if so what weaponry are the using for this?

If I'm not mistaken they use the STN Atlas Euro-Spike (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/gill/) surface to surface coastal missiles.

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/data/632/2 (http://tietokannat.mil.fi/data/632/3)
(The new Finnish wintercammo btw)

[Ichhabe]

If you dont like these pics, you must be dead. Breathtaking...

[twominds]

So in terms of firepower against enemy shipping, the swedish amph units are more comparable to the missile platoons of the norwegian coastal rangers then? does either unit have a FAC role/capability?

[Swedish_Marine]

So in terms of firepower against enemy shipping, the swedish amph units are more comparable to the missile platoons of the norwegian coastal rangers then? does either unit have a FAC role/capability?
Without knowing too much about the norwegian Kystjaeger I would say yes.

The illuminator squads in the missile platoons are capable to function as forward observers for artillery and mortar fire but not as Forward air controllers. I don´t know if the coastal rangers are capable of doing that either. Much have changed since I was involved in this business.

[twominds]

thanks for the info! cleared up most of my questions..

[Swedish_Marine]

No problem.

[joshfox0]

:D i love scandenavian armys. they just look excellent. Thanks for the pcitures amazing stuff.

[Pelle:Swix]

Nice pics

:hug: Love the strb 90 :hug:

http://img48.echo.cx/img48/9088/stopp80060140a0fu.th.jpg (http://img48.echo.cx/my.php?image=stopp80060140a0fu.jpg)

more pics of the strb90N
http://www.mil.no/sjo/keskdr/kyststrid/start/sts/bildegalleri/

Hellfire;
http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=10OQP0JAY3O7U3HOIB2PJACJ2V

Off topic
Torpedo;
http://www.home.no/larset/tp613.mpg\

[FFanatic]

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6707.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6758.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6775.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6786.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6809.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6814.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6832.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6838.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6844.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6845.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6864.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6882.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6906.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6934.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6938.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6944.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6960.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_6982.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7010.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7018.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7046.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7054.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7061.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7109.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7117.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7122.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7145_fix.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7159.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7167.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7173.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7190.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_7229.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_9603.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_9606.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_9611.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_9612.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_9626.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_9638.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_9639.jpg

FROM: http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/siiri05galleria1.dsp

[Thor]

So in terms of firepower against enemy shipping, the swedish amph units are more comparable to the missile platoons of the norwegian coastal rangers then?
Or put in another way, norwegians are more comparable to the swedes.

[andreen]

So in terms of firepower against enemy shipping, the swedish amph units are more comparable to the missile platoons of the norwegian coastal rangers then? does either unit have a FAC role/capability?

A new arty system under testing for the amfibiusbatalion:
http://www.amf4.mil.se/images/local/030629_ssg120fartframatbb.jpg

http://www.amf4.mil.se/images/local/030629_ssg120bakifranupp.jpg

28 112mm chells/min

The army verson:

http://www.mss.mil.se/images/local/amos_td_strf90.jpg

[Bobitron]

Wow! Lots of great pics, thanks for posting them. I'll save a bunch.

[joka]

Kids kids, knock it off, we all know I can piss longer than anyone else p-)

[FDF_Hemppis]

Just a quick question in terms of the capabilities and purpose of the finnish coastal rangers. I know that the swedes, just like their norwegian counterparts, use a portable hellfire firing platform to maintain their capability to defeat, or at least inflict damage to, large vessels at a long distance. read that they are even mounting the hellfires on a gyrostabilized platform in the gunturret of the SB90 in norway now.
So the question is, do the finns have a similar capability and if so what weaponry are the using for this?

Pictures tell more than 1000 words ;)

http://www.rannikonpuolustaja.fi/kuvat/ro2006koulutus.jpg

http://www.rannikonpuolustaja.fi/kuvat/ro2006osat.jpg

And of course there is coastal artillery, mortars and anti-ship missiles (RBS-15 Mk.3)

Sorry for the biiiiiig pics :oops:

[cazorp]

rofl rofl rofl
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05a_11.jpg


woot woot woot
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_15.jpg

If I were a finnish driver/nav on the "Jorma" I'd cry my self to sleep after being shown the Stridsbåt 90H.. a more formidable amphibious assault vessel must be hard to develop

ok, she doesnt stop a round, not even from a glock 17.. -she outmaneuvers it p-)

[joka]

If I were a finnish driver/nav on the "Jorma" I'd cry my self to sleep after being shown the Stridsbåt 90H.. a more formidable amphibious assault vessel must be hard to develop

ok, she doesnt stop a round, not even from a glock 17.. -she outmaneuvers it p-)

And you base this on what? The Jurmo is designed for beach landings, the stribsbåt is some kind of multipurpose vessel.

But hey, like I already said, I piss the longest, end of story.

[Swedish_Marine]

Joka and cazorp: I might be wrong but I doubt that either of you have been close to, seen in real life or riding in a Stridsbåt 90H. What you think you know about it, its abilities, etc, is just speculations if the above facts is revealed to be accurate. Take me for example. I don´t no jack sh*t about the Jurmo, but do I post my speculations in the forum? Do I speculate in who piss the longest? No, because I know neither of you do.

About Strb90H being a multi purpouse vessel. I´d rather have a multi purpouse vessel capable of actually giving machinegun fire in a 360 degree angle from the deck. The Jurmo can´t because it only has a mounted machinegun on one side. Strb90H can deploy sea-mines, Im not too sure the Jurmo can do that. The Strb90H IS designed for beach landings. It has a twin mount .50 machineguns in the bow on the starboard side in front of the driver. It IS designed for beachlandings, but it also have the capability to deploy mines, deploy attack divers, engage other small ships if needed and be used for force protection as recently trained boat chief-buddy of mine did in Scotland on an exercise last year.

There is also a new batch of boats built in the recent years. This is called Strb90HS. It has stronger engines, protection against small arms fire up to 7,62 NATO Armour piercing rounds, NBC-protection.......... and AC. :D

That´s it. If you have any questions about the damn thing, please don´t speculate..... ask me instead, because I have experience and knowledge from it.

[Hewi^]

Kinda stupid to even compare the 2 boats, Jurmo class is a pure troop transport vessel, so no..it's not carrying that much firepower, the idea of the desing is to get the coastal jaegers on the shore fast and exit before all hell breaks loose :lol: The Stridsbåt 90H is bigger in size and designed for different stuff like Swedish_Marine said, tho making a fast landing from that boat looks tricky, because you got the cabin infront of the boat, so u have to use the narrow sides to get off it, and some climbing aswell, which might prove tricky with all the gear ur carrying. But then again i've never made a beach landing from a Stridsbåt 90H, kewl vessel non the less

woot

[ollevarm]

28 112mm chells/min ????

It must be 120mm

[cazorp]

My comment regarding Jurmo was solely a design-issue - have no doubt its agile... but the 90H is good looking ;)

[Simba]

tho making a fast landing from that boat looks tricky, because you got the cabin infront of the boat, so u have to use the narrow sides to get off it, and some climbing aswell, which might prove tricky with all the gear ur carrying.
woot

You have some truly amazing "studying 90H boat pics" skillz, You and only you could figure out that the hatch in front of the cabin is only used for delivering ice-cream to the tourists in the swedish archipelago.
The soldiers actually dont have to climb the narrow sides of the boat, they just do a elite-ninja jump over the cabin or the more common "boat-to-land" teleportation trick.

[joka]

Times like these ones pledge to stay out of flamewars is really tested.

cazorp and Simba, I would appreciate if you two would not reply in this thread anymore.

[Swedish_Marine]

The troops unload from the bow hatch. The top portion of the hatch is opened upwards and to the sides and there´s a ramp that is lowered if the beach is "low". The troops go through an isle between the driver and the navigator and passes through a bulkhead to access the bow hatch.

If an assault is made on an island to sieze a beach head you lay a carpet of mortar - and/or artillery fire on the landing beach. You can assault the beach with one or several platoons or even a full company. As the mortar fire rain on the beach the boats race towards the it. When the boats are within the danger of being struck by friendly shrapnel the mortar fire will stop leaving the boats to handle their own support. The boat crews open fire with their twin mounted heavy machineguns in starboard bow and with the heavy machinegun/Mk.19 in the ring mount on the deck. The troops inside stack themselves tightly in a pre-designated order inside the hatch after opening the bulkhead about 100 meters from the beach. The boats arrive at the same time. Racing in from 30-knots to full speed they reverse the waterjets and perform a crashstop and lets the boat ride the waves the last meter or so onto the beach and secure it. After the crew reports "boat secure" the platoon commander issues the "go" order and the hatches are opened and the troops unload as quickly as possible to lay down a massive wall of supressive fire and begins the assault on land to secure the beach head.

If two companies participate in the assault, the first company will seize the beach head. Once the beach head is taken, the second company will arrive at the beach head and continue the assault from there.

This is called a violent landing. (Våldsam landstigning)

[Hewi^]

Hehe, dont shoot me for my lack of knoweledge about the Stridsbåt 90H, wasnt trying to flame ur kewl boat ;) so it functions in the same way as the Jurmo class boats, tho we lack the firepower it having only a single 12,7mm MG etc. i'd love a ride one one of those stridbåts for sure.

Wating for more pics from the exercise, and thanks for posting them, awesome stuff woot

Ohh, and thanks for the description about the landing procedure, was a good read, would be even nicer seeing it live p-)

[joka]

Well the FinSwe 05 exercise is over by now, but I'll post some of the unposted photos and more from Siiri 05 (Finnish navy's main exercise, of which FinSwe 05 was a part)

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_37.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_40.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_34.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_24.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_29.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_16.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_13.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_05.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05i_10.jpg
Betaland prisoner

Siiri 05
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8207.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8210.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/tornio.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8326.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8271.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8428.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8481.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8496.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8045.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8048.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8035.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8064.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/slmepa/img_8534.jpg

[Simba]

Hewi^ i wasnt my intention to "flame" you, no harm ment.
What is this? As soon as somebody makes a joke about something or someone everybody screams Flamewar. Come on isnt it pretty obvious that i was making a joke and was being sarcastic. I thought "elit-ninja jump" and "ice-cream" would be pretty obvious jokes. Well anyway i must say that i like the Jurmo boat. Ok im gonna go have laugh now and just love life i suggest everbody else does the same. Cheers!!

[signatory]

Those large boats... mine-hunters? or what? Can they carry RBS15 or other missiles? info plz

[Esko]

Those large boats... mine-hunters? or what? Can they carry RBS15 or other missiles? info plz

You mean these?
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/esikunta/toim_kalusto_hamina.jpg
It's Hamina-class missle boat. 240 tons, 32 knots with water jet. Made from aluminium/composite and should have some kind of smaller radar profile.

It has modernised MTO 85 (RBS15), Umkhonto SAM-system and 57 mm cannon.

[Wickwire]

Stritsbåt 90 is a realy fun boat!! The handleing is superb! Can turn like no other boat of that size that I know of. Realy fast too. But not as fast as the rib that the Norwegian MJK is using... damn that was a fast. Couldn't outrun that one :(

The Strb90H has very little sense of speed since you are seated fairly high above the water line. The G-boat is more fun since its a "cabriolet" so to speak. The RIB you speak of probobly wasn´t faster but the sensation of speed is greater since you´re riding it at the water line just like the G-boat.

Off the record: I agree. Stridsbåt 90 is the ****. woot

/Swedish_Marine. Stridsbåt 90H driver/navigator

We're speaking about a 50 kts RIB here. The speed of the Stridsbåt 90 being around 40 kts?

Hey. Didn't see your post before.. It's as OldRecon says. The RIB passed us on our left (port?) side, it turned around, come up behind us and just kept gaining on us... It cleared us on the right side, jumping on the wave we were making, clearing the whole boat out of the water! Wish I had my camera...

BTW nice pics ;)

[ikurinturbiini]

http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/joukot/uudpr/fs05g_24.jpg

Someone make a photoshop chop to this picture. Note the guy having a swig behind Finnish Defense Minister Kääriäinen's huge gut? :lol:

[signatory]

Those large boats... mine-hunters? or what? Can they carry RBS15 or other missiles? info plz

You mean these?
http://www.mil.fi/merivoimat/esikunta/toim_kalusto_hamina.jpg
It's Hamina-class missle boat. 240 tons, 32 knots with water jet. Made from aluminium/composite and should have some kind of smaller radar profile.

It has modernised MTO 85 (RBS15), Umkhonto SAM-system and 57 mm cannon.


Yeah that's the one... sounds and looks very nice. Wouldnt mind more pics.

I guess I could google myself but i feel lazy now :lol:

[Esko]

Yeah that's the one... sounds and looks very nice. Wouldnt mind more pics.

I guess I could google myself but i feel lazy now :lol:
Well, I have nothing to do, so here it goes.
Huge pic http://www.akerfinnyards.com/image.cfm?i=14&s=h
http://www.fimr.fi/stc/itamerikanta/imagebank/27/358.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/ajankohtaista/tiedotteet/arkisto/2001/images/20010704_0926_1/35603-1998_s.jpg
http://www.fy-composites.com/ohjusvene1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/fnsrauma70/valokuvat/vuosipaiva1.jpg
http://www.fspoy.com/tuotekuvat/hamina_nu(1).jpg
http://cimg.163.com/news/0411/15/hamina_d12.jpg
http://cimg.163.com/news/0411/15/hamina_d13.jpg

These pics are from last years Aalto04-exercise, there's couple of pics from Hamina http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17188&highlight=aalto

[Hadamar]

http://www.amf4.mil.se/images/local/030611_gsp.jpg
The life of a pack animal is hard.

[twominds]

Just in case anyone considered my posts as attempts at flaming, this was not the case. Just curiousity as to the variations in capabilities and doctrine..

[ikurinturbiini]

All in all, this thread has the coolest pics I've seen in a long while.

FI & SW make quite a pair.

[Luno]

Nice to see that there is some soldiers that have the new AK5CF .
I hope we gone see it as the new standard rifle :D