(UK)Children to be labeled 'criminal' by age 3

[Geezah]

Leaked report describes plan to ID kids who might become lawbreakers

A leaked 250-page report on proposed crime-fighting strategies, drawn up on instructions of UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, recommends training nursery workers to target children as young as 3 years of age as potential criminals.

The Home Office report, entitled Crime Reduction Review, lays out a series of ideas for effectively cutting crime in the UK. Without implementing the new measures, the report warns, the crime rate will rise 8.5 percent by 2008.

Children as young as 3 can be labeled as potential criminals, the report's writers claim, if the exhibit bullying behavior in nursery school or if there is a history of criminality in the immediate family.

"From the simple perspective of reducing crime ... the arguments for focusing resources on the children most at risk are 'overwhelming,'" the Home Office strategy unit conclude.

Eighty-five percent of prisoners in UK juvenile detention facilities have histories of bullying in school, say researchers cited in the report, while 43 percent of male adult prisoners have children with criminal records.

"There is perhaps too much concern about the potential negative impacts of targeting on children and their families," the report reads.

The document proposes parenting classes when a child is identified as a potential criminal and intensive foster care for children who are not "under control." So-called "soft" measures – improving reading, language and social skills – are also recommended for "potential offenders" who are caught early enough, reports the London Times. The UK education secretary is expected to announce a $780 million program tomorrow that implements similar measures, providing breakfasts, after-school sports and art classes as part of a 10-hour school day.


Link (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44733)

[BigBaribal]

1984, simply 1984!


If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.

[Geezah]

The document proposes parenting classes when a child is identified as a potential criminal and intensive foster care for children who are not "under control."

I'm not sure if this is the right way to go about combating the increase in crime.

[BigBaribal]

The document proposes parenting classes when a child is identified as a potential criminal and intensive foster care for children who are not "under control."

I'm not sure if this is the right way to go about combating the increase in crime.


Is the system really interested in combating crime and insecurity?

Fear is and has always been an excellent method of control.

The more the people are fearing something (for true or fake reasons), the easiest it is to convince them to accept methods of controls over them (just look at the USA post 11 september).

Of course, it would be better to search for the real reasons of crime increase, but don't dream about it.

[Geezah]

The document proposes parenting classes when a child is identified as a potential criminal and intensive foster care for children who are not "under control."

I'm not sure if this is the right way to go about combating the increase in crime.


Is the system really interested in combating crime and insecurity?

Fear is and has always been an excellent method of control.

The more the people are fearing something (for true or fake reasons), the easiest it is to convince them to accept methods of controls over them (just look at the USA post 11 september).

Of course, it would be better to search for the real reasons of crime increase, but don't dream about it.

Very true.

[vryhpyammoadded]

Yay, more creeping enserfment!

[woofer]

The document proposes parenting classes when a child is identified as a potential criminal and intensive foster care for children who are not "under control." So-called "soft" measures – improving reading, language and social skills – are also recommended for "potential offenders" who are caught early enough, reports the London Times. The UK education secretary is expected to announce a $780 million program tomorrow that implements similar measures, providing breakfasts, after-school sports and art classes as part of a 10-hour school day.

There are parents out there who havnt got the parenting or social skills to bring up a child responsibaly and the kids run wild, almost ferile from birth some schools where I work collect them in the mornings from the front door because the parent(s) wont get up. School is probably the only cnstant in their life and therefore a good place to instill some basic values. I know some of you will go off on one about why should we pay for all this...it aint the kids fault and why should they lose out because the parents are assholes.

[Geezah]

The document proposes parenting classes when a child is identified as a potential criminal and intensive foster care for children who are not "under control." So-called "soft" measures – improving reading, language and social skills – are also recommended for "potential offenders" who are caught early enough, reports the London Times. The UK education secretary is expected to announce a $780 million program tomorrow that implements similar measures, providing breakfasts, after-school sports and art classes as part of a 10-hour school day.

There are parents out there who havnt got the parenting or social skills to bring up a child responsibaly and the kids run wild, almost ferile from birth some schools where I work collect them in the mornings from the front door because the parent(s) wont get up. School is probably the only cnstant in their life and therefore a good place to instill some basic values. I know some of you will go off on one about why should we pay for all this...it aint the kids fault and why should they lose out because the parents are assholes.

I agree with what you're saying here, there are those that should have been sterilised but this is the way of the world, it's comments liek this I have a problem with,


when a child is identified as a potential criminal

This is nothing more than scare mongering, they use the same reasoning to ban everything except the kitchen sink. While I have no problem with a positive role model in the school system and encouraging extracurricular activities, I do not school as the place to play God.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

I wish they done something about the kids next door.

they are slowling taking away all the wooden planks from the fence to burn in the fire place inside.

Whats worse when the dept housing comes to replace the fence, my parents (i'm still a sad sack of **** who lives with mummy) will be faced with footing half the bill when there was nothing wrong with the ****ing fence

[Geezah]

I wish they done something about the kids next door.

they are slowling taking away all the wooden planks from the fence to burn in the fire place inside.

Whats worse when the dept housing comes to replace the fence, my parents (i'm still a sad sack of **** who lives with mummy) will be faced with footing half the bill when there was nothing wrong with the f*** fence

Hey, there's nothing wrong with living with your parents, I was still at home until I was 24, by 26 I was living in the US of A.

[Drako]

Of course, it would be better to search for the real reasons of crime increase, but don't dream about it.

There's one answer: parents. But what govt can do about people chasing after money, lacking time to play with children and giving them anything they want just to make them leave their "tired parents" alone? Children since they start talking learn words "I want" and it remains in their mind for the rest of their life. As long as adults won't realise that to rise good children they have to spend time with them, crime will rise. And that what we see now is the very beggining of social degeneration proccess. The younger children the more violent and mindless they are in comparision with previous years. Honestly, I don't see any way to solve this situation in the world where money is more imporatant than your own children.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

I wish they done something about the kids next door.

they are slowling taking away all the wooden planks from the fence to burn in the fire place inside.

Whats worse when the dept housing comes to replace the fence, my parents (i'm still a sad sack of **** who lives with mummy) will be faced with footing half the bill when there was nothing wrong with the f*** fence

Hey, there's nothing wrong with living with your parents, I was still at home until I was 24, by 26 I was living in the US of A.

I dont know man. My parents are pretty rednecky for Australians. Old man is semi retired. Gives me **** about being a office bum instead of on the tools yadda yadda.

whats really annoying about the next door is that the olds own the house and when they got it valued about 30k was taken off because of the neighbours. :bash:

[supercontra]

The document proposes parenting classes when a child is identified as a potential criminal and intensive foster care for children who are not "under control." So-called "soft" measures – improving reading, language and social skills – are also recommended for "potential offenders" who are caught early enough, reports the London Times. The UK education secretary is expected to announce a $780 million program tomorrow that implements similar measures, providing breakfasts, after-school sports and art classes as part of a 10-hour school day.

There are parents out there who havnt got the parenting or social skills to bring up a child responsibaly and the kids run wild, almost ferile from birth some schools where I work collect them in the mornings from the front door because the parent(s) wont get up. School is probably the only cnstant in their life and therefore a good place to instill some basic values. I know some of you will go off on one about why should we pay for all this...it aint the kids fault and why should they lose out because the parents are assholes.
True but that has always been the case and rise in crime rate cannot be traced to that alone. This is really scaring me.