f-19

[manuel]

just curious can any of you plane buffs help me out.

f-19 designation belongs to which of these two planes
http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~kasatosi/images/F-19-2.JPG
http://www.modellbau-center-koeln.de/shop/04051.JPG

[Rictor]

woah.

They're both beautiful. Do they actually exist?

[JoaMei]

Afaik this was a project to make the russians think this is the new aircraft, to protect F-117 development.

Maskirowka...

[Flagg]

just curious can any of you plane buffs help me out.

f-19 designation belongs to which of these two planes
http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~kasatosi/images/F-19-2.JPG
http://www.modellbau-center-koeln.de/shop/04051.JPG

I believe the F19 designation would be the first/top image.

If I remember correctly, it is NOT an official USAF designation, but the name associated with a model aircraft produced in the 1980's that caused a minor stir when it was released.

I believe it was released shortly after an aircraft crash, rumoured to be either a Stealth aircraft or a pinched MIG hit the headlines.

As mentioned, disinformation may have played a role in it.

[ChuckThunder]

I think that is the same jet Cobra Commander flew!

[manuel]

ahahahaha cobra commander

[Ratamacue]

I believe the F19 designation would be the first/top image.

If I remember correctly, it is NOT an official USAF designation, but the name associated with a model aircraft produced in the 1980's that caused a minor stir when it was released.

I believe it was released shortly after an aircraft crash, rumoured to be either a Stealth aircraft or a pinched MIG hit the headlines.

As mentioned, disinformation may have played a role in it.
Basically, in the 1980's, before the F-117 was revealed, it was pretty much known that Lockheed was working on some sort of stealth aircraft. When the F-19 designation was skipped (i.e. F/A-18 Hornet, then the F-20 Tigershark), people assumed that the F-19 was the designation for some supersecret stealth aircraft, so that model was created and called the F-19 Stealth Fighter. There's actually a computer game made in 1989 by Microprose of the same name...pretty cool game. :P

[Inconnu]

stargate.

[OnTheRocks]

I have a diecast model of the bottom plane at home heh..

[manuel]

thanks flagg and rat and everyone else for at the very least no flame and a couple of funny comments

[LordHalbert]

I wouldn't want to eject from that thing.

You might get sucked into the engine intake due to it's placement.

[Chuckie]

Sorta looks like Firefox that Clint stole from the Russians.

[Cromdog]

I believe the F19 designation would be the first/top image.

If I remember correctly, it is NOT an official USAF designation, but the name associated with a model aircraft produced in the 1980's that caused a minor stir when it was released.

I believe it was released shortly after an aircraft crash, rumoured to be either a Stealth aircraft or a pinched MIG hit the headlines.

As mentioned, disinformation may have played a role in it.
Basically, in the 1980's, before the F-117 was revealed, it was pretty much known that Lockheed was working on some sort of stealth aircraft. When the F-19 designation was skipped (i.e. F/A-18 Hornet, then the F-20 Tigershark), people assumed that the F-19 was the designation for some supersecret stealth aircraft, so that model was created and called the F-19 Stealth Fighter. There's actually a computer game made in 1989 by Microprose of the same name...pretty cool game. :P
Holy crap I remember that game! That game was awesome, for the time.

[jmatucd]

"There's actually a computer game made in 1989 by Microprose of the same name...pretty cool game."

Best game ever. Oh it inspired / furthered a love of aircraft even though it was a tad bit nonsensical

[WarriorMonk]

just curious can any of you plane buffs help me out.

f-19 designation belongs to which of these two planes
http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~kasatosi/images/F-19-2.JPG
http://www.modellbau-center-koeln.de/shop/04051.JPG

I think some of that design was used to make the AI-piloted aircraft in the upcoming movie "Stealth"

[TuNeRsHaRk]

yeah i was just gonna say, the second one looks like the AI plane from the Movie Stealth

[Yes Man]

I have that game lol...i wonder what i did with it :D

[MK-ULTRA]

"There's actually a computer game made in 1989 by Microprose of the same name...pretty cool game."

Best game ever. Oh it inspired / furthered a love of aircraft even though it was a tad bit nonsensical

Yeah, remember playing it and striking Lybia, fighting MIG-23s....

Cool game at the time.

[stuntman]

I had that game for the sega genesis and in the end you fight some alien space ship that is helping the Russians!
Dam I miss the cold war! lol

By the way have you guys ever heard of the stealth carrier based bomber
called the A-12 Avenger? It was suppose to replace the A6 intruder. What ever happened to that program?
http://www.eyepod.org/images/a12_a06_1_.jpg

[AOCBravo2004]

It ran into MAJOR cost overruns, was cancelled by SecDef Cheney, called the flying Dorrito. The A-12 Avenger II was then going to be replaced by the Tomcat 21/Quickstrike/Etc, which was then cancelled, and finally we get to the Super Bug/Rhino/Super Hornet :-)

[manuel]

whats the Tomcat 21 anyone have at least some conceptual images? im curious now =]

[Ratamacue]

whats the Tomcat 21 anyone have at least some conceptual images? im curious now =]
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1017694&highlight=tomcat#1017694

Should be some towards the bottom of the page.

[manuel]

thanks again man but im going to patiently wait for a VF-1S some of you will know what i mean =]

[Seiyuuki]

thanks again man but im going to patiently wait for a VF-1S some of you will know what i mean =]

I personally prefer the VF-1J model.

[manuel]

yes the 1J is up there... but its just something about skull one cant pin it though

[Racer-X]

I believe the F19 designation would be the first/top image.

If I remember correctly, it is NOT an official USAF designation, but the name associated with a model aircraft produced in the 1980's that caused a minor stir when it was released.

I believe it was released shortly after an aircraft crash, rumoured to be either a Stealth aircraft or a pinched MIG hit the headlines.

As mentioned, disinformation may have played a role in it.
Basically, in the 1980's, before the F-117 was revealed, it was pretty much known that Lockheed was working on some sort of stealth aircraft. When the F-19 designation was skipped (i.e. F/A-18 Hornet, then the F-20 Tigershark), people assumed that the F-19 was the designation for some supersecret stealth aircraft, so that model was created and called the F-19 Stealth Fighter. There's actually a computer game made in 1989 by Microprose of the same name...pretty cool game. :P

I actually still have that game for my Commodore 64 on tape :-) :-)

[Thumbtack]

This post is bringing back a lot of memories for me. Growing up in the mountains between Bakersfield and Tehachapi California we were very close to the testing grounds of the F-117 and heard a lot in the press about the speculation of what the "stealth fighter" looked like.

I actually saw the fire that was caused by the crash of a F117. I lived on a mountain in Hart Flat that looked across the valley and down at Caliente. One night when we came home we all saw a blaze on the other side of the valley in the foothills. On the news they said the military had closed up the whole area because of a crash and for two weeks there was a combat air patrol. Because we were so high on the mountain we were buzzed a lot by a pair of F-15's. It was speculated in the media that this could have been a "Stealth Fighter" that crashed, but it was a couple years later when they unveiled the F-117A that it was confirmed.

I was somewhat obsessed with the whole thing and at the age of 8 the F-19 Stealth Fighter Sim was my first computer game. It took many hours out of my day. I would sneak to my grandma's house in-order to avoid homework and play it on her IBM. Lots of good memories there!

[iflu]

yah...f19 is famous for being a TOY

[B25Hmitchell]

Tom Clancy had the "F-19 Ghostrider", knicknamed The Frisbee" by it's pilots, in his 1986 fictional WW III novel Red Storm Rising. In Clancy's vision, it was also capable of Mach 1.2, air-to-air, and air-to-ground. The weapons were also on wing pylons, not inside bomb bays. It is a top notch novel, and actually reading it for the second time now.


Bssically, the USSR tries to defeat the west's conventional forces in Europe in order to give them a free hand in taking over the Persion Gulf and it's oil.

Great book and worth a read in my humble opinion. The F-111 + F-4 Wild Weasel missions are real exciting.

B25H