Argentienien Forces Malvinas War(Falklands War)

[MARINO]

Malvinas Argentinas Gibraltar Español :D :D
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[Maverick77]

interesting pics

[duck]

Picture #7 shows members of the "Buzo Tactico" who spearheaded the attack in a helicopter assault on the governor's house and Royal Marine contingent barracks.

[Clay]

what a stupid war

[MARINO]

Not really is a zone with a big ZEE, with a lot of natural ressources specially Oil(a big amounts of Oil) and Gaz, and a lot of benefits from fishing.

[Mace]

Stupid war? A foreign army invades your territory, you ****ing take it back, simple.

[MARINO]

And before war they did big efforts to prevent war even atriple soveraignty btween US, GB and Argentina.

[Clay]

Stupid war? A foreign army invades your territory, you f*** take it back, simple. no no no, I didnt meen it by that. I ment that its a stupid little island why did they attack it, good thing the brits kicked there ass.

[Marxist203]

Stupid war? A foreign army invades your territory, you f*** take it back, simple.

I think he meant it was stupid in the fact that it was completely pointless...The Falklands are almost useless, the Argentinians didn't really need it but they decided to go and lose a war over it.

Therefore, it is a pointless and stupid war.

[duck]

France would surely send a battlegroup if Canada would be foolish enough to try to f*ck with St.Pierre and Miquelon.

[MARINO]

As I said befores in Falklands, we can find a big amount of different ressources specially a lot of Oil and also gaz, and a big benefits of fishing.
This islands had never been Argentinian. Befores Spanish, with a small garrison of 50 men, brits arrived there with many ships and occupied the islands who have any importance for Spanish Empire(Oil was not important at the end of 18th century) so brits stay there hunting wha.les

[Clay]

Stupid war? A foreign army invades your territory, you f*** take it back, simple.

I think he meant it was stupid in the fact that it was completely pointless...The Falklands are almost useless, the Argentinians didn't really need it but they decided to go and lose a war over it.

Therefore, it is a pointless and stupid war.

yes thank you!

[Whistler]

France would surely send a battlegroup if Canada would be foolish enough to try to f*ck with St.Pierre and Miquelon.

Now theres an idea. Those stupid bastards sitting there on that island taking our fish, they should piss off.

They lost the war in the 1800s so what the hell are they still doing there?? rofl

And a battlgroup, come on, that carrier they have is so loud our subs would hear it on the other side of the atlantic rofl .

[Dalleer]

Alright, nice pictures indeed.

But, how about some sort of a info package concerning the Argentinian infantry soldiers equipment?

The helmet? webbing (yes, what sort of a carrying system did they have) , possible camouflage, and weapons?

[Sauron]

I really dont undestand why those f*cking english are living in our island....The true is that that island is useless for both countries so i really dont care...anyway...the conflict happened cos the military goberment of Argentina was lossing power...they had to do something to distract the people of Argentina. That why this happened. Cos nobody gives a **** for that island.

Although we lost the war (thanks to the help of USA to UK) the uk had a lots of losses...We were/are a country of the 3er world but we were close to sink their only aircraft carrier :-*$

Sorry for my English :(

[fantassin]

Am I reading right? is it really a canadian making a joke about another country's army? seriously?

Please, do tell me about your country's impressive defence forces, its fearsome mechanised units, its unmatched airborne and its oh so powerful navy...

Thank God for the R22R and the other french speaking units...

[Haiw]

I really dont undestand why those f*cking english are living in our island....The true is that that island is useless for both countries so i really dont care...anyway...the conflict happened cos the military goberment of Argentina was lossing power...they had to do something to distract the people of Argentina. That why this happened. Cos nobody gives a **** for that island.

Although we lost the war (thanks to the help of USA to UK) the uk had a lots of losses...We were/are a country of the 3er world but we were close to sink their only aircraft carrier :-*$

Sorry for my English :(

Last time I checked you still got creamed on a 3:1 ratio, and the UK didn't get any help from the US. And I wouldn't call Exocets 3rd world weaponry...

[scoone]

Perhaps Argentinians are our brothers, but the Falklands war (Malvinas) was just a way of turnning argentian's eyes into a problem away from the economic crisis. Argentina was suffering a big economic crisis so the gov. decided to invade the Falklands.I'm telling no lie, I've heard it from argentinians themselves.By the way , the military commanders told the politicians about the high risk of loosing such a war.
I mean , I don't support Argentina in the Malvinas issue , they tried to win the war and they didn't make it.British army fought it last colonial war and won.Ask the Argentinians most of them will tell you that it was a stupid war.Same as Gibraltar, a lot of spaniards don't even bother about it.

[DeltaWhisky58]

The Argies were heroes as long as the odds were in their favour. I agree that they had some extremely professional men in their forces, especially the air force and naval pilots, but surely they never seriously expected to hold onto the Falklands. No way Jose..............

Come close to sinking our (only – wrong, fact.) carrier - there is still an Argie Etendard carrying kill markings for sinking it - no, I don't think so.

I don't understand quite where Marino is coming from on this issue - it is now 21 years ago, we (i.e. Britain) won. Argentina and Britain are now friends again.

I would also point out that although there is a majority of Hispanic origin in the Argentine population, there are also tens if not hundreds of thousands who are very proud of their British (especially Scottish, Welsh and Irish) descent, together with sizeable German and Italian minorities.

The invasion of the Falklands was mainly carried out to improve the popularity of a flagging neo-fascist regime, which fortunately didn't survive the post-defeat political struggles.

The Falklanders didn't (and don't) want Argentine rule, The Gibraltarians don't want Spanish rule - stop stirring up un-necessary trouble on this Forum, with this out of date and irrelevant argument.

[scoone]

I agree DeltaWhisky58 , it happened long ago.Now UK and Argentina are friends and let's forget about Gibraltar they don't want to be part of Spain.

[SteelHand]

I don't think the Falklands are useless, they provide a port & a staging point in the South Atlantic for British forces.

Kris.

[Sauron]

Last time I checked you still got creamed on a 3:1 ratio

eh?? what the....???!!!



and the UK didn't get any help from the US. And I wouldn't call Exocets 3rd world weaponry...

They received Satelital information from de USA

[Sauron]

I don't think the Falklands are useless, they provide a port & a staging point in the South Atlantic for British forces.

Kris.

nowdays i think it is useless to have military bases all over the world...U only need a tomahawk misile ^^

[Whistler]

Am I reading right? is it really a canadian making a joke about another country's army? seriously?

Please, do tell me about your country's impressive defence forces, its fearsome mechanised units, its unmatched airborne and its oh so powerful navy...

Thank God for the R22R and the other french speaking units...

Don't need a powerful military to take on that big hunk of metal Charles de Gualle... just a couple diesel electric Victoria class SSKs would do the trick woot .

[Whistler]

I really dont undestand why those f*cking english are living in our island....The true is that that island is useless for both countries so i really dont care...anyway...the conflict happened cos the military goberment of Argentina was lossing power...they had to do something to distract the people of Argentina. That why this happened. Cos nobody gives a **** for that island.

Although we lost the war (thanks to the help of USA to UK) the uk had a lots of losses...We were/are a country of the 3er world but we were close to sink their only aircraft carrier :-*$

Sorry for my English :(

Last time I checked you still got creamed on a 3:1 ratio, and the UK didn't get any help from the US. And I wouldn't call Exocets 3rd world weaponry...

Correction: Those AIM-9Ls, which were one of the main weapons used to defend your carriers from Argentinian fighters, were shipped special from the US just to take part in that war.

Same goes for the brand new (at the time) Stinger missiles that the Yanks gave you guys for the Falklands.

[Jose Le Baron]

I agree DeltaWhisky58 , it happened long ago.Now UK and Argentina are friends and let's forget about Gibraltar they don't want to be part of Spain.

I hear you :) Otherwise:

The English give the Falklands / Malvinas to the Argentinians;
The English give Gibraltar to the Spanish;
The Spanish give Ceuta, Tanger and Melia to the Moroccans;
The Spanish give Olivença to the Portuguese...

Enough of that crap going on on a certain tiny piece of land over which people are goint at each others throats for millenia...

[scoone]

Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say.

[MARINO]

One moment Ceuta and Melilla had always been Spanish( with don Rodrigo who was the Master of Melilla near 500) even before Morrocco was born, Tanger is from Morrcco since 1954.
An we won Olivença legally on war, and Portugal have any raclmations about it.

[scoone]

Anyway let's cut the crap about this topic

[SteelHand]

I don't think the Falklands are useless, they provide a port & a staging point in the South Atlantic for British forces.

Kris.

nowdays i think it is useless to have military bases all over the world...U only need a tomahawk misile ^^

Sauron,

A Tomahawk missle is all well & good, but it can't take & hold ground. For that you need Infantry, & for them you need a staging area, hence the Falklands stratigic place in the South Atlantic.

[Sauron]

Sauron,

A Tomahawk missle is all well & good, but it can't take & hold ground. For that you need Infantry, & for them you need a staging area, hence the Falklands stratigic place in the South Atlantic.

I undestand your point..but there is nothing important there...unless u re expecting a war with the Penguins :p

[fantassin]

Can anybody confirm that the picture before the last picture Seneldin, the officer of Syrian origin who tried to stage a coup d'état latter in Argentina?

[DeltaWhisky58]

Marino

I really don't know what prompted you to stir this crock of Sh*t, but you have achieved nothing!

The photos you posted of both sides are of poor quality, when there are many far better images in the public domain, the only other result has been an un-necessary arguement.

You have never clearly stated why you have chosen to take this stance - you appear to be Spanish, Argentina and spain split centuries ago. Your territorial ideas are archaic - I suggest you leave well alone and get back to more interesting and topical subjects.

[Javehn]

I know what those guys doing !! "Zigi Zagi Zigi Zagi hoy hoy hoy . Zigi Zagi Zigi Zagi hoy hoy hoy . Zigi Zagi Zigi Zagi hoy hoy hoy . " (I am not the only one that watches "It's a man show" ?? ).
http://malvinas.cazadoresdemonte.com.ar/imagenes/tanda6.jpg

Well , and considering the fact hat brits were more then 10,000 km from they shores , and the fact that USSR KGB helped Argentine generals with some solid intel. Brits SAS and SBS were the best .

[MARINO]

A PALABRAS NECIAS OIDOS SORDOS.
They are poor quelity because they are too old, if you don't wanto to see them don't enter into this topic, nobody has told you to enter.
And can you told me why my territorial ideas are archaic.
You are not very intelligent when i wrote Gibraltar español Malvinas argentinas i was making a joke.

[MolliG]

Scrap that, can't find the bloody pictures :(.

Will continue to look :|.

[MARINO]

Cool post them, i'm very interested in this conflict, i want to know everytinhg about it.

[Sabre]

The Falklands War was entirely motivated by politics on BOTH sides. First of all, a failing right-wing (american backed) Argentinian government used the invasion as a cheap trick to turn attention from a steadily worsening economic and domestic situation.

Margaret Thatcher, being so partial as she was (and is) for Right-Wing, fascist, south american dictators, thought that using a military operation to divert attention from ****ty conditions at home was actually a really good idea. So, rather than giving time for reason and diplomacy to prevail (all be it backed up with a mailed fist in the shape of the task force) which would have lead to a peaceful resolution of an increasingly bizzarre confrontation, she decided to make it into a war.

Hence, our forces went into battle, outnumbered, thousands of miles from any support with ships and equipment pulled back out of the que for the scrapyard (or sale to countries like argentina, which already owned one of our older ships) against a conscripted, but otherwise modern army firmly planted on shore.

We lost many men, several ships (it was only by the sheer luck that seems to follow british servicemen where ever they go that a large troop carrier like canberra wasn't sunk) and a number of aircraft fighting over a damp island.

The only reason the whole thing didn't fail (and why the operation was a success in Iraq in 2003) was because of the strength of character of the british serviceman. Something that is taken for granted until after the event when the stories start to filter back.

I don't blame the Argies, I blame Thatcher.

[Sauron]

Cool post them, i'm very interested in this conflict, i want to know everytinhg about it.

que es lo que queres saber exactamente?

[Jose Le Baron]

Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Trying to say you are right, let's forget about those things, otherwise there'll be a mile long of claims to settle.

[MARINO]

Pues conozco muy bien la campaña aerea y naval, pero la terrestre no se mucho, y me gustaria ver mas fotos.

[Sauron]

Pues conozco muy bien la campaña aerea y naval, pero la terrestre no se mucho, y me gustaria ver mas fotos.

ok....voy a tratar de encontrar mas info de la campaña terrestre.

Show time!!!!

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I don't know how to say this....it is the fuel plane :p
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Recon :(
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http://www.skyhawk.org/6E/AR3A312.jpg
This sucks :/
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:oops:
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[MARINO]

muchísimas gracias, la unica que ya había visto es la de los A-4 en formación.
The fuel plane is called Tanker.

[fantassin]

What has happened to the 14 Super Etendards of the Aviacion Naval? are they still flying or have they been grounded?

[Javehn]

Why do we see Aircraft carriers on those pictures ?? Shure thing that Argentine doesn't have them ...

[fantassin]

The Armada had the 25 de Mayo during the Falklands. Never left port but still they had it; I don't know of its current status, hence the question on the Super Etendards...

[Sauron]

still flying

there re new aircrafts...

Douglas A-4AR Fightinghawk
IAI Finger
AMD M-5 Mara
AMD M-IIIEA Mirage
AMD M-IIIDA Mirage versión biplaza

all have been modernized by Lockheed-Martin

[MARINO]

Before they had the carrerir Independenci, and Then 25 de mayo ex-Royal Navy carrier. When he was out of service a damantelation company bourght it and sank it.

[PongoLogs]

I really dont undestand why those f*cking english are living in our island....The true is that that island is useless for both countries so i really dont care...anyway...the conflict happened cos the military goberment of Argentina was lossing power...they had to do something to distract the people of Argentina. That why this happened. Cos nobody gives a **** for that island.

Although we lost the war (thanks to the help of USA to UK) the uk had a lots of losses...We were/are a country of the 3er world but we were close to sink their only aircraft carrier :-*$

Sorry for my English :(

You cheeky ****!!

Firstly they are not your islands (check out the flag on Government House)

Secondly, useless or not it doesn't matter. You dagos invaded British soverign territory and marched up and down with your jackboots insisting everyone spoke Spanish and drove on the right. Whilst bastards like Patricio Dowling were abusing innocent people including children you really expected us to do nothing... forget it! you might get away with state terrorism in Argentina but not in our backyard mate.

We were not better equipped and not supplied by the US with the exception of a couple of stingers which no-one really knew how to use.

The truth is that you lost because we were better trained and better motivated. It was simply a question of bottle, skills & drills.

Endex!

[Kaos]

The Armada had the 25 de Mayo during the Falklands. Never left port but still they had it; I don't know of its current status, hence the question on the Super Etendards...
25 de Mayo actually left port during the war, and was close to launch an air strike on the 1st May 1982.
check here for some links (http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Ships/Venerable.html)
;)

[mack pl]

Marino Amigo, we No abla espanol :( Gadaj po ludzku ;) BTW i hears something about irish volunteers in argentinian army in this war, do yuo know something about it ??

[PongoLogs]

Marino Amigo, we No abla espanol :( Gadaj po ludzku ;) BTW i hears something about irish volunteers in argentinian army in this war, do yuo know something about it ??

I certainly never came across any although there were some Argies of Welsh decent but then most of Patagonia are Welsh.

[PongoLogs]

The Armada had the 25 de Mayo during the Falklands. Never left port but still they had it; I don't know of its current status, hence the question on the Super Etendards...
25 de Mayo actually left port during the war, and was close to launch an air strike on the 1st May 1982.

After the Belgrano was sunk the Argentine navy never left port but they were around before that, not least of all on 2nd April when the Argies invaded.

[IMARA]

PongoLogs, it´s evident you know nothing about Falklands. Argentinan soldiers didn´t abused ANYONE. And let me tell one interesting detail: the most important order that special forces had when they invaded the islands was NO TO KILL ANYONE, not even soldiers. We could have easily killed that small military group of marines, but we decided to let them live. Think about that, I have never heard of an operation of invasion in which the invaders are not allowed to kill enemy sodiers.
And for God sake, there were not abussings at all, that´s product of your imagination

we lost the war because we were poorly equiped, but we were and we are very well trained (although we have no money).
you received A LOT of help from americans (weapons and satelite information, which told you about our positions). And you received much help from chile too, don´t you know about the fuel they give to you??

[IMARA]

PongoLogs, it´s evident you know nothing about Falklands. Argentinan soldiers didn´t abused ANYONE. And let me tell one interesting detail: the most important order that special forces had when they invaded the islands was NO TO KILL ANYONE, not even soldiers. We could have easily killed that small military group of marines, but we decided to let them live. Think about that, I have never heard of an operation of invasion in which the invaders are not allowed to kill enemy sodiers.
And for God sake, there were not abussings at all, that´s product of your imagination

we lost the war because we were poorly equiped, but we were and we are very well trained (although we have no money).
you received A LOT of help from americans (weapons and satelite information, which told you about our positions). And you received much help from chile too, don´t you know about the fuel they give to you??

[IMARA]

I don´t wanted to post i twice, don´t know why it happeed.
Sorry

[Lazy Lob]

Can anybody confirm that the picture before the last picture Seneldin, the officer of Syrian origin who tried to stage a coup d'état latter in Argentina?

Don't knpow but there are a lot of Syrians in Argentina. Including ex presidente Menem.


Lets talk about Parsley........

[IMARA]

well yes, there are some people here that have arab desendence. Menem is one, and coronel Mohamed Alí Seineldin (25° infantry regiment) is another one. but there are not too many.

[Lazy Lob]

well yes, there are some people here that have arab desendence. Menem is one, and coronel Mohamed Alí Seineldin (25° infantry regiment) is another one. but there are not too many.

Do you think Zulemita peroxides her pubes?

[EsoognomEhT]

The De Mayo supported the original invasion of the Island and its aircraft flew numerous sorties, however she had machinery problems and after the Belgrano was sunk she was quickly withdrawn

[EsoognomEhT]

on the point of American assitance, they tried to let us use some sattellites but the weather was a bit ****, however it is believed blackbird was used once or twice.


Losses (air) were; 8 Harriers, 5 lost to ground fire, and 3 to accidents.

FAA and CANA; 31 skyhawks, 26 mirages, 6 super etendards (1 confirmed, 5 probable) 15 pucaras, 1 canberra, 1 Aermacchi attack trainer, 4 mentor trainers, 1 hercules transport and 3 light aircraft.

Interesting point on the herc, on 31st May it was used as a bomber - a crewmember rolled bombs out the tail-ramp which bounced off a British ship without detonating...on the 1st of June this was again attempted and the Herc was shot down by a Sea Harrier

[IMARA]

peroxides her pubes?? mmm... I don´t understand, what´s the meaning of peroxides and of pubes?

Interesting information the one of the blackbird, I never heard about it

[grolier]

Sovereign at 13.000 kilometers, long distance....., absurd......

[grolier]

Its impossible to loose 6 Super Etendard when you have five at war, crazy numbers yours....

[armored_diplomacy]

The message you have entered is too short

[xav]

Do you guys realize the thread was from 2005... and most linked pictures don't show anymore?

[armored_diplomacy]

Do you guys realize the thread was from 2005... and most linked pictures don't show anymore?

rofl

I have to read thread´s date before posting
I have to read thread´s date before posting
I have to read thread´s date before posting
I have to read thread´s date before posting
I have .......

(then, some Mod. should close it I guess)