View Full Version : German area defense mine
JoaMei
06-20-2005, 06:44 AM
http://www.bwb.org/C1256DF2004FF94C/0/10CABC60018C8FA1C1256E7D00231672/$FILE/Flaech1.jpg
The range is 160 m, if a positively identified Target(acoustic and seismic) is near a SMart submunition is ejected to kill via top-attack.
http://www.bwb.org/C1256DF2004FF94C/0/D529B11337790E7CC1256E7D0026A0A3/$FILE/SMArt2.gif
http://www.bwb.org/C1256DF2004FF94C/vwContentByKey/W25Y99HJ388INFODE
McLane
06-20-2005, 08:14 AM
Wow, really cool!
But from all weapons of the world, I hate mines the most.... mean weapons.
JoaMei
06-20-2005, 08:35 AM
Me too, but on the other side these new intelligent mines will selfdestruct after a certain delay instead of killing people for a long time after a conflict is over.
RGRBOX
06-20-2005, 09:21 AM
Think a guy would notice that lying on the ground.....
Zerodivider
06-20-2005, 09:30 AM
Well, it's anti-tank anyhow... ;)
JoaMei
06-20-2005, 09:31 AM
Think a guy would notice that lying on the ground.....
It is anti vehicle/tank, say they are deployed 50m next to a road in high grass, corn, wheat..... Just drive around in your car and try to look left and rigth whats there. Would you see it 100m away?
Now imagine the bad vision out of a tank. Or in darkness.
big80a2
06-20-2005, 11:55 AM
just put a big ghettoblaster with RAP on heheh ;)
Freibier
06-20-2005, 12:35 PM
just put a big ghettoblaster with RAP on heheh ;)
To die like a gangsta? :P
Musashi
06-20-2005, 12:38 PM
Well, it's anti-tank anyhow... ;)
Uff... it seems not to be an anti-cojones mine p-) Life without balls would be very hard :roll:
Conga
06-20-2005, 12:38 PM
But from all weapons of the world, I hate mines the most.... mean weapons.
the mines the german army uses are ok, for instance the "Panzerabwehrwurfmine AT2" disarms itself after 48h (or less).
two pics of the "Panzerabwehrrichtmine DM12" (crappy quality though, I took them with my cell phone)
http://home.arcor.de/pzpi/050127_111917.jpg
http://home.arcor.de/pzpi/050127_111940.jpg
Hellfish
06-20-2005, 01:38 PM
I thought the Germans signed onto the landmine ban. Do these now qualify for that?
RGRBOX
06-20-2005, 01:48 PM
Well, it's anti-tank anyhow... ;)
OK, my bad.. didn't see that part....
weissent
06-20-2005, 02:02 PM
I thought the Germans signed onto the landmine ban. Do these now qualify for that?
Yeah well, :P it's not a landmine, it's an anti-tank mine. What use would it be to destroy just 'land'? Stupid [wherever you come from].
Conga
06-20-2005, 02:23 PM
I thought the Germans signed onto the landmine ban. Do these now qualify for that?
No, they're not anti personnel mines.
I wonder how this thing will decide who is entering the area. Well, a truck or a tank, but who's on the steering wheel. Talking about friendly fire. When sometimes soldiers or advanced systems (f.e. jets) can't make out the difference, how will this "jumping at everything near 160m"-thing spot the difference? Put it near a base to defend and wait for the first guy who takes the wrong turn?!?
This seems to be an invitation for these "accidents". :|
Conga
06-20-2005, 03:14 PM
Minensperrnachweis (minefield report) ;)
wholagun
06-20-2005, 03:16 PM
I see zee Germans are still on their quest to perfect killing.
zee evil Germans :fork:
RGRBOX
06-20-2005, 05:15 PM
New freindly mines...they only kill the enemy.....
Marmot1
06-20-2005, 05:27 PM
I wonder how this thing will decide who is entering the area. Well, a truck or a tank, but who's on the steering wheel. Talking about friendly fire. When sometimes soldiers or advanced systems (f.e. jets) can't make out the difference, how will this "jumping at everything near 160m"-thing spot the difference? Put it near a base to defend and wait for the first guy who takes the wrong turn?!?
This seems to be an invitation for these "accidents". :|
New inteligent mines can pe preprogramed to ignore smaller targets like cars, can be programed to i.e. engage not first but second or third vehicle in voncoy some of them are remote activated and deactivated. Probably new ones can be equiped in lad verison of IFF systems that are currently introduced in many armies.
Conga
06-21-2005, 03:11 PM
right, but I don't think the mines in the Bundeswehr will be replaced any time soon.
Wodan
06-21-2005, 05:15 PM
that thing rules!!!!! woot
JoaMei
06-21-2005, 05:21 PM
Afaik this thing can differentiate if the target is a Leopard 2, Marder, Fuchs or a T-something, BMP and so on by sound signature. Just positively identified vehicles are attacked.
Vertigo
06-22-2005, 03:58 AM
http://www.bwb.org/C1256DF2004FF94C/0/10CABC60018C8FA1C1256E7D00231672/$FILE/Flaech1.jpg
The range is 160 m, if a positively identified Target(acoustic and seismic) is near a SMart submunition is ejected to kill via top-attack.
http://www.bwb.org/C1256DF2004FF94C/0/D529B11337790E7CC1256E7D0026A0A3/$FILE/SMArt2.gif
http://www.bwb.org/C1256DF2004FF94C/vwContentByKey/W25Y99HJ388INFODE
For our friends who don't speak German:
The ADW (AREA Defense Weapon) is an intelligent antitank weapon for
the blockage of tracts of land as well as for the increase of the
clearing resistance of mine fields.
The development of the ADW was qualified broken off office-laterally
with successful conclusion of the definition phase; That means subject to a later resumption.
Company's the development is resumed.
FUNCTION
The ADW fights armored vehicles, drive past in a distance up to 160 m at it. The transfer by hand, from the truck or helicopter or by rockets is possible. The ADW is programming and with remote control. With the help of its goal approximation sensor technology the ADW is
able to already detect goals at large distances, to identify it up to the sufficient approximation and to compute the
most favorable time for target engagement. Carrier of the effect is a SMArt submunition, of the ADW according to the mortar principle one fires. The fight takes place from above in same kind as with SMArt 155 mm.
Thus already an individual ADW has a surface locking action.
STRUCTURE
The ADW system covers
* ADW ammunition
* Remote switching device
* Programming device
The ADW consists of
Programming acceptor of data,
* Airbag to "stand up"
* Remote switching receiver
* Electronics,
* acoustic -, seismic and radar sensor technology,
* Arranging system with stabilization paddles,
* Submunition SMArt 155 mm,
* Submunition starting system and
* Power supply.
Briefly after the impact of the first cylindric ADW on the soil the
Airbag is activated and blows themselves up. Thereby the stabilization paddles are folded up, so that the ADW sets up itself perpendicularly to the underground. In addition the microphone arms are swung out.
A goal approaches, thus it is detected by the acoustic sensor technology. The acoustics supply the pinpointing angle and steer the radar sensor
technology, which the goal distance additionally needed for a forecast of the goal
movement determines.
The ADW classifies approaching goals due to them own the acoustic and
seismic signature. The fire control algorithm recognizes the vehicle-typical
characteristics within the sensierten signal spectra, the future movement of the understood object differentiates on the
basis its goals and Nichtziele and estimates.
A goal was recognized and its trajectory with sufficient accuracy
certainly, thus the launcher tube is swivelled by an arranging system in
objective and according to the mortar principle a SMArt submunition is
fired on the goal.
The submunition describes a first parabelfoermige flight path, whereby still during the ascent the parachute cartridge opens and
releases the gerefften parachute. After the passage by the peak point the rotation screen is entrefft, a defined trick sinking movement of the submunition fills, with air
and causes as of the SMArt 155 mm of submunitions ago admits.
The submunition is employed with their longitudinal axis opposite the
parachute longitudinal axis, which leads to the spiral scanning of the soil by the submunition
sensor technology. The goal is detected by this sensor technology, the ignition signal for the p-charge is released. This hits the target and makes it disabled.
Shadow
06-22-2005, 06:59 AM
Any Vids?
Wodan
06-22-2005, 07:04 AM
Any Vids?
I thought the same, that would be sooo f'ucking great!!!!
(must look pretty cool)
Conga
06-22-2005, 01:39 PM
it's probably difficult to find vids, because it's not allowed in the Bundeswehr to deploy live mines during peacetime :(
danielARIZONA
06-22-2005, 01:44 PM
Wow, I like mines.
RGRBOX
06-23-2005, 05:41 PM
Wow, I like mines.
That's because your yard isn't full of them......... :bash:
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