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budanski
01-02-2004, 11:54 PM
Iraq's Sunni triangle a test-bed for US army's "digital division"

Agence France Presse (http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?session=dae.2822448.1073103248&modele=jdc_34)

01/01/2004 at 15:00:06
Date line: TIKRIT, Iraq

The hi-tech wizardry of the US army's "digital division" is facing its first real combat test in Saddam Hussein's powerbase in north-central Iraq, where soldiers say it is helping disperse the fog of war and crush anti-occupation forces.

Troops from the 4th Infantry Division (4ID), based in Tikrit, were among the first to land on French beaches on World War II's D-Day, and their successors are now making history by becoming the world's most technologically advanced division.

"I was sceptical," said Captain Lou Morales, who works in the 4ID's operations centre in a palace building of the ousted Iraqi president.

"But having come here and seen it from a test-bed all the way through to using it in combat operations, I'm a believer."

What he believes in is his division's unique ability to see the battlefield using a technologically advanced but extremely user-friendly "tactical Internet" system.

It allows tanks, helicopters, personnel carriers, jeeps and artillery units to share their locations, information on where enemy units are, and real-time text messages with each other and with officers in command centres.

The battle scene is portrayed on screens in the fighting vehicles and in the command centre, with friendly units shown as blue icons and enemies as red ones on maps that can be magnified to show individual buildings.

Unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), or drones, can provide real-time video of battle scenes to complete the information sent by satellites, vehicle-mounted sensors and human observers.

Major General Ray Odierno, who just a few weeks ago was seen on the world's television screens recounting how his men captured Saddam, visits the 4ID's Command Information Centre here several times a day for an update on the state of play in the restive region his men patrol.

The room, littered with laptops and radio sets, is dominated by three large screens that portray maps of the theatre of operations, video feed from UAVs, and tactical information.

The 4ID's technology played a part in the December 13 capture of Saddam in a hole in the ground on a farm near Tikrit.

"The rapid movement of 600 soldiers into the area to cordon it off and tighten the noose was all done in a digital environment," said Lieutenant Colonel Ted Martin, the 4ID's chief of operations.

The technology was developed for "high-end, high kinetic, metal on metal, very fast-paced operations," said Martin. Which in lay terms means full-scale battle between two well-equipped armies.

The US army's first computerized force however missed major combat operations in Iraq in March because Turkey did not let it deploy from its territory into northern Iraq.

The 4ID instead came in through Kuwait and moved north to take up its current position patrolling the so-called Sunni triangle north of Baghdad.

But soldiers in Tikrit say the digits are proving useful in combating the low-level insurgency that supporters of the former regime are conducting against coalition forces.

Sergeant Major Salvador Martinez of the 4ID's 1-22 Battalion is another believer. The system saves lives and cuts down on friendly fire incidents, and because it's Windows-based it's as easy to use as a home computer, he said.

"Those are targets that we hit last night," he said, tapping with a stylus on a "ruggedised" computer screen mounted over the passenger seat on his jeep. On the screen several buildings are highlighted on a map of Tikrit.

If the "digital division" is deemed a success, of which most soldiers here are confident, the next step is likely to be an integrated digitalised army, navy and air force.

Even foot soldiers could be equipped with mini screens showing the same information seen by commanders and crews in vehicles.

James
01-02-2004, 11:59 PM
Interesting article. I hope, though, that our men and women still learn to use maps and compasses, stubby pencils and note books, and the ability to do things by the seat of their pants.

Tane Angle
01-03-2004, 12:04 AM
Thanks for the article, budanski, and good points there James.

SOG
01-03-2004, 12:21 AM
lol, freaky, should fit right in with the digi kids of today.

GONG GONG: You have mail: You have incoming fire!

does sound pretty cool yet scary, its like a live deadly game to the controllers in front of the screen. unreal.

ShotOver
01-03-2004, 05:59 AM
Aaah, *cough* Terminator! *cough*

Who, me? I did'nt say anything...

Yeah, handson field craft should still be taught, like James said.

martinexsquaddie
01-03-2004, 06:16 AM
windows based dear god no rofl

ShotOver
01-03-2004, 06:22 AM
"Bravo 2, 5: Airstrike needed at location 82CD, over."

ERROR! ABORT RETRY CANCEL

"Bravo 2, 5: Airstrike needed at location 82CD, over."

ERROR! ABORT RETRY CANCEL

"Ah crap!"

martinexsquaddie
01-03-2004, 06:31 AM
apprantly microsoft where trying to push windows for the British aircraft carriers rofl.
they got told where to go big style :lol:

DPGLAW
01-03-2004, 07:45 AM
In my opinion because our generation has grown up with computers, video games, and amazingly advanced technology. It is a great thing because that it what we are used to, not compass, pencils, etc.

Although, I do think it important to first learn the "old way" so that you learn the basic way that things are done in case the technology ever breaks, plus it is better to to things the old way to learn why you are doing something. In the long run though, once a soldier is trained, in the old and new way, I think that digital is better bec. that is what we are used to.

Falco
01-03-2004, 09:33 AM
I wonder if it has the Command and Conquer music on it :D

Tane Angle
01-03-2004, 02:31 PM
martinexsquaddie, I think some equipment in the US forces uses a bare bones Windows program. No solitare, I think, though. :(

usa320
01-03-2004, 09:06 PM
WE NEED AIR SUPORT AT LOCATION APLHA BRAVO CHARLIE FIVE.

Battlecommand.exe has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. Please contact your vendor if the problem continues.

rofl

Im so glad they got rid of Illegal operations in XP, or at least severely reduced em.

I honestly rather have to restart or get a CTD than an illegal operation. they were the tool of the devils programmer.

farmgirl
01-04-2004, 12:02 AM
a related article.....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=569&ncid=738&e=1&u=/nm/20040104/tc_nm/iraq_technology_dc

Video Game War for U.S. 'Digital Divison' in Iraq
By Robin Pomeroy

TIKRIT, Iraq (*******) - The blue dots moving on the computer screen are U.S. tanks and Humvees, the red ones are the enemy American soldiers must kill or capture.

This is not a video game but how the most high-tech division of the U.S. army conducts operations in Iraq (news - web sites).

The 4th Infantry Division, which patrols a large chunk of northern Iraq, caught the world's attention when it captured Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein (news - web sites). But in the U.S. military, it is known for the space-age gear fitted in its vehicles.

"The 4th ID is the only division to have it," said Sergeant Jeff Mann, an infantryman from Farmsville, Ohio. "That's why they call us the 'digital division'."

For soldiers like Mann, the navigation console on his Humvee has replaced the map and compass as the tool to find the way across a desert or through the streets -- in his case in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown.

The computer uses satellite positioning technology to tell the operator where he is and where his comrades are. Back at base, computer operators plot the red icons showing where they believe the enemy to be.

"It is a huge advance," said Major Lou Morales, a training officer who was a company commander during the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq last March.

"It freed me up to see who was around me. I knew where my helicopters were, my trucks, my tanks...It frees you up from staring at a map."

With its touch screen and keyboard, the console can send instant messages to HQ or other units and has a "line of sight" device that tells the user what he would be able to see -- and shoot at -- if he moved to a different position.

The console, which in the U.S. Army tradition of acronyms is referred to as FBCB2 or Force XXI Battle Command, Battalion, Brigade and Below, is only part of the 4th Infantry Division's digital armory.

ARMCHAIR GENERAL

In a mobile office next to one of Saddam's palaces that U.S. forces have made their home in Tikrit stand three large video screens that replicate the information from the various consoles and give more data besides.

This is the Command Information Center, the heart of the operation, where the troops' commander, Major General Ray Odierno, moves his forces around a computer screen in the way generals of old pushed model tanks across a table-top map.

On the center screen, a map can show the whole of Iraq or zoom in on a single house, using recent satellite photographs.

The left-hand screen is used to bring up lists of data. On the right, the screen can air live aerial video filmed by remote-controlled planes.

The division operates eight UAVs -- unmanned aerial vehicles -- the only ones in Iraq. The winged craft can circle, quietly and usually undetected, above friendly or enemy forces, sending pictures and map coordinates back to the command center.

The Iraqi army put up little defense against the U.S-led invasion so the technology has mostly been used for fighting insurgents, who according to the U.S. military are mainly Saddam loyalists or foreign militants, rather than conventional forces.

"It was never envisaged to be used in the kind of environment we are in right now," said Lieutenant Colonel Ted Martin, the division's chief of operations.

Instead of the tank battles the troops trained for, they face the daily risk of snipers and low-tech but deadly roadside bombs, not easily spotted by expensive gadgets like unmanned aircraft.

But commanders say the technology is proving its worth in the anti-insurgency effort, for example by moving troops more quickly to precise locations when the enemy is spotted.

"Digital systems have improved our ability to action on intelligence, for example to cordon off a building at night," Martin said.

When the division's troops closed in on Saddam's hiding place last month, they relied more on intelligence gathered by humans than technology, but the gadgets played their part.

"The rapid movement of about 600 soldiers into the area to cordon it off and tighten the noose was all done in a digital environment," Martin said.

Soldiers like the gear, but say it is costly and often unreliable. "It's like any other computer, anything can go wrong," said Mann, the sergeant, as his comrades tried to fix the hard drive on his Humvee. "It's great, when it works."

martinexsquaddie
01-04-2004, 05:19 PM
if it has to work go UNix/linux
windows fine for games wp and supermarkets battlefields er no

wreck
01-04-2004, 07:31 PM
In my opinion because our generation has grown up with computers, video games, and amazingly advanced technology. It is a great thing because that it what we are used to, not compass, pencils, etc.

Although, I do think it important to first learn the "old way" so that you learn the basic way that things are done in case the technology ever breaks, plus it is better to to things the old way to learn why you are doing something. In the long run though, once a soldier is trained, in the old and new way, I think that digital is better bec. that is what we are used to.
Yes, I do think the basics are quite important. I just happen to remember one military contest including troops from europe, asia and america. The US marines dropped out when the gps broke down. It was actually amazing to us others.

The results of not knowning even the basic stuff were clearly seen when the 507th got lost. (not sure is the numba is correct but the convoy Lynch was with) The US captain lost gps and could not navigate with map&compass :|