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Tman
06-21-2005, 04:22 PM
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Staff Sgt. William Todd, a section leader for the 48th BCT Security Platoon, leads his team through a residential area on their first patrol in Iraq.
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Staff Sgt. William Todd, leads his team from the 48th BCT Security Platoon, along a canal as they visit a water treatment plant location in their area operations.
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Soldiers of the 48th Brigade Combat Team verify their weapons zero at the Udari Range Complex, Kuwait in preparations for their movement into Iraq
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Frens
06-21-2005, 04:24 PM
woot GP!! thanks for sharing! this is the first time I see ACU in Iraq

Hawkeye
06-21-2005, 04:27 PM
ACU Interceptors? I never knew those were being produced

FallenAngel
06-21-2005, 04:27 PM
http://www.dvidshub.net/img_archives/temp/temp_display_img_8799.jpg

:cantbeli:

Digital Marine
06-21-2005, 04:27 PM
Awesome! woot


Im thinking that this is the older version of ACU?

Hellfish
06-21-2005, 04:31 PM
It doesn't look bad in the proper context (first post) but on nearly every other pic is sticks out pretty badly. :|

CONSERVATIVE53
06-21-2005, 04:32 PM
Cool! It doesn't look so great in the open, but the one where they are on patrol with the humvee looks great. I think the new ACU's going to look great in Iraq.

willyang
06-21-2005, 04:32 PM
The pattern may play trick to electro-optical equipment, but it stands out to naked eyes. The next best thing to insurgents would be walking around with a target sign.

The guy who designed this needs to get out more. :fork:

Howie Kaluha
06-21-2005, 04:33 PM
This is a very, very bad mistake................

Tman
06-21-2005, 04:34 PM
A few more.
http://www.dvidshub.net/img_archives/temp/temp_display_img_8800.jpg
Soldiers of the 48th Brigade Combat Team verify their weapons zero at the Udari Range Complex, Kuwait in preparations for their movement into Iraq
http://www.dvidshub.net/img_archives/temp/temp_display_img_8798.jpg
SGT Dwight Bivens checks his 50 caliber machine gun mount as he prepares to convoy into Iraq with Echo Troop, 108th Cavalry, Griffin, Georgia.
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Spc. Charlie Thornton, 21, frmo Desoto, MO. grades the area around the 48th BCT TOC to provide better drainage. Thornton is a Soldier in the 220th CSE frmo Festus, MO.

Hellfish
06-21-2005, 04:35 PM
I vote for a straight up tan/khaki uniform. No ****ing around with camo patterns (though Marpat and Cadpat desert variations are nice).

Hadfield
06-21-2005, 04:35 PM
I like em. I guess I better hahaha.

Digital Marine
06-21-2005, 04:37 PM
This is the old version of ACU.... totally


http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL882/3498364/7192548/100732076.jpg

The new version looks alot more tan

triath
06-21-2005, 04:37 PM
It's just a camo pattern relax people.

Bulkowski
06-21-2005, 04:38 PM
Dead links :|

Falco
06-21-2005, 04:42 PM
Dead links :|

Yup

CONSERVATIVE53
06-21-2005, 04:51 PM
The new ACU looks good for desert but looks too tan for a jungle.

callous
06-21-2005, 05:07 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/kriegsafe/airsoft/missing_link.jpg

scm77
06-21-2005, 05:30 PM
Can only see the first pic, and imo the ACU pattern still looks way to blue to blend in anywhere (except maybe underwater).

RGRBOX
06-21-2005, 05:37 PM
Can only see the first pic, and imo the ACU pattern still looks way to blue to blend in anywhere (except maybe underwater).

x2 on the pics... can only see the first one... but it does look good...

Also like the pic posted down the chain with the guy wearing the OTV in ACU Pattern..

RGRBOX
06-21-2005, 05:42 PM
Although I don't mean to lead away from this thread... I was on the Army web site when I can across this report:

http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/read.php?story_id_key=7481

The pic of the guy he's wearing the Multi Cam Pattern...

There goes the speculation & rumor control about if the ACU's days are numbered....

CONSERVATIVE53
06-21-2005, 05:56 PM
Crye helped a lot and built parts of the Future Force Warrior project, so I guess they get to have that gear made in their multicam.

Ratamacue
06-21-2005, 06:02 PM
Crye helped a lot and built parts of the Future Force Warrior project, so I guess they get to have that gear made in their multicam.
Yep. Crye designed the helmet, the armor, and the BDU's for Future Force Warrior, so it would seem logical that they'd manufacture them in Multicam, although I've also seen it in tri-color desert. They also made the suit for Future Warrior 2020.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album112/abk.jpg
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album112/abl.jpg
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album112/abp.jpg
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album112/abw.jpg
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album112/acw.jpg
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album112/acx.jpg

Howie Kaluha
06-21-2005, 06:07 PM
Although I don't mean to lead away from this thread... I was on the Army web site when I can across this report:

http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/read.php?story_id_key=7481

The pic of the guy he's wearing the Multi Cam Pattern...

There goes the speculation & rumor control about if the ACU's days are numbered....

woot woot p-)

jedisponge
06-21-2005, 06:15 PM
They should've just made multiple patterns from the begining.

Hadfield
06-21-2005, 06:17 PM
I would have loved to see the Army use Multicam, but I think we will be stuck with the ACU for some time to come.

I know im not getting my hopes up.

ArmyRanger
06-21-2005, 06:19 PM
i think ACU is a step backwards, not forwards.


go multicam!

Howie Kaluha
06-21-2005, 06:20 PM
i think ACU is a step backwards, not forwards.


go multicam!

I'm with ya on that woot

Hadfield
06-21-2005, 06:26 PM
i think ACU is a step backwards, not forwards.


go multicam!

I'm with ya on that woot

Yeah, Between Multicam and the ACU, Multicam would have had my vote.

CONSERVATIVE53
06-21-2005, 06:28 PM
I don't really mind the ACU. It works well in my area, which is basically a very green woodland area. Multicam is just way too tan for me. The fabric reflects light way to easily. At night its good but during the day I stand out. Multicam is great for areas like Afghanistan but in a wooded area, I would honestly take the ACU over multicam. I also think that they could have added less pink and white to multicam, and add more green and brown. I would also like to see what it would look like if the black and white faded into different colors as well. The black is helpful for shadows, but shadows sometimes fade from dark to light, so a bold black in addition to a black that fades into...say green would look good.

Bulkowski
06-21-2005, 07:22 PM
Still a Marpat fan here :)

Roaming East
06-21-2005, 07:36 PM
are there any actual situations in Iraq that require american forces to be camo'd out? with all the gear and accompanying vehicles and equipment they are carrying they could roll out in blue jeans and jersies and nobodied really notice them any more or less.

ArmyRanger
06-21-2005, 07:37 PM
the scout snipers will appeciate that

ZeroPositive
06-21-2005, 07:55 PM
cadpat foreverrrr

Frens
06-21-2005, 08:04 PM
another pic:

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_050422-N-1722M-055.jpg
HiRes (http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/050422-N-1722M-055.jpg)


Fort Hunter Liggett, Calif. (April 22, 2005) – Builder 1st Class Ben Campbell, assigned to Naval Mobile Construction Battalion Three (NMCB-3) based at Port Hueneme, Calif., inspects the roadway for improvised explosive devices during exercise Bearing Duel at Fort Hunter Liggett, Calif. Campbell is part of a Seabee Engineering Reconnaissance Team (SERT) which conducts an engineering and security reconnaissance of specified supply routes. The exercise is being conducted to evaluate the Seabee skills for potential future deployments and includes force protection, rapid runway repair, bridge building and water purification. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 1st Class Michael Moriatis (RELEASED)

ArmyRanger
06-21-2005, 08:05 PM
....navy.

Frens
06-21-2005, 08:08 PM
....navy.

I know but that looks like ACU to me. if it's ACU why is he wearing it? isn't the ACU only for the Army?

ArmyRanger
06-21-2005, 08:09 PM
its got a hood, looks like it might be a gortex

Hadfield
06-21-2005, 08:13 PM
...Navy

Why does he have ACU's?

Grrrr.

usa320
06-21-2005, 08:35 PM
I think the Marines need to get over their rivalry with the other branches and they all need to use MARPAT, because it is hands down the best pattern out there.

abncougar
06-21-2005, 09:08 PM
I think the Marines need to get over their rivalry with the other branches and they all need to use MARPAT, because it is hands down the best pattern out there.


yeah, they copyrighted it becuase there are little Globes and Anchors in the MARPAT pattern, they are really hard to see. Kinda like the AF blue tiger stripe idea that had the air force star with wings in it.

abncougar
06-21-2005, 09:09 PM
The pattern may play trick to electro-optical equipment, but it stands out to naked eyes. The next best thing to insurgents would be walking around with a target sign.

The guy who designed this needs to get out more. :fork:


that would be the US Army NCOs

ArmyRanger
06-21-2005, 09:10 PM
NCO's that sit in an office. cause they sure as hell didnt pic the colors or the material

abncougar
06-21-2005, 09:13 PM
NCO's that sit in an office. cause they sure as hell didnt pic the colors or the material


are you really a Ranger?? is so , tell us the buzz around the batt about the ACU.....if there is any buzz

ArmyRanger
06-21-2005, 09:16 PM
No im a depper, 11x Option 40. but i have many ranger friends and they said if the battalion dosent like it they wont be wearing it.

ArmyRanger
06-21-2005, 09:18 PM
This was on MP.Net earlier for those of u who didnt see it


" We of 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) came back from a JRTC Rotation not too long ago, with a number of the line companies and scouts being given the new ACUs to test out.

The ACU is NOT a field uniform. Its advantages in maintenance are all for the garrison soldier. The fabric is thin and it tears easily, especially around the knees when you're pulling security. The velcro nametapes and patches shrivel up when they get wet. The velcro rank and unit patches are the constant target of stupid games where people tear them off, slap them on upside down, etc. In JRTC they were the favorite target of some of the villagers. In close proximity out there to the local populace out in the sandbox, I can see kids snatching these things off joe one after the other.

I have no complaints about the digital pattern. I have no complaints about the sound or lack of sound the velcro makes. For the line dogs, this is a non-issue. The enemy will hear the attack aviation, the cav scouts, the armor, the long green and tan line of trucks long, long before questions of whether velcro is too loud or no ever become a real issue.

I personally remove every button off my BDUs except my sleeves and those required to close the pants and the front. I had every pocket sewed in. Others use velcro. We did not make these modifications to our DCUs in the sandbox, or even in the few months before we went to the sandbox. It is unthinkable to screw around with a field uniform like that.

The key point is, FIELD UNIFORM. The ACU has a long way to go before it becomes anything close to a workable solution. This smacks of the MOLLE program, with plastic ruck frames that snap on impact and substandard cloth and straps in use everywhere. The ACUs we got are garbage. They might look cool in garrison, but they are not cut out for the field. Neither are the desert tan boots. What is the point of wearing suede tan boots in woods or swamp like JRTC? What would the point of wearing them be in the Korean Peninsula or Central America?

Buttons can be sewn back on easily. Stitching in fishing line works wonders. From personal experience, velcro hooks caked with clay and dirt are worthless. I do not need to make the time to take a toothbrush and go over every velcro surface. I shouldn't have to spend MORE time on what is supposed to be a lower-maintenance uniform in order to perform my missions for the day.

The people who want the velcro can have the velcro, but in the name of uniformity they will have everyone in the field sucking with a uniform designed for the lowest common denominator: The soldier who is too lazy to maintain his uniform in garrison.

Did I by the way mention that after 25 washes, the ACUs have to be turned into supply to re-apply the permethrin bug treatment they come with? And these things cost $88 a set, but aren't available at the vast majority of clothing and sales stores even now? So how come this uniform is designed for the slacker with functions and poor quality fabric that do the field soldier no good?

Because this is the Army of One: Striving for One Low Standard. Let me have my ALICE ruck and my BDUs back."

Chuck6d
06-21-2005, 09:27 PM
ACU is here to stay....So suck it up and drive on.
Multicam is like the dinosaurs.

Howie Kaluha
06-21-2005, 09:34 PM
Multicam is like the dinosaurs.

1 year is "like the dinosaurs"?? :|

abncougar
06-21-2005, 09:41 PM
Multicam is like the dinosaurs.

1 year is "like the dinosaurs"?? :|

well.....it depends on how you look at it :|

Chuck6d
06-21-2005, 10:44 PM
Don't get me wrong.....Multicam is an awesome pattern. But none of the big guys brought on to it. I just don't seeing it lasting that long being just sold to the commercial market.

Bulkowski
06-21-2005, 10:46 PM
Multicam is like the dinosaurs.
http://www.wasteoftechnology.com/articles/dinosaurs/dinosrs2.jpg
I don't get the reference... :cantbeli:

ArmyRanger
06-21-2005, 11:20 PM
rofl rofl rofl rofl

:hug:

Drunkensquid
06-22-2005, 12:44 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/ripinby/Smileys%20and%20stuff/wNzY2ODA4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE3D.jpg

drfunk
06-22-2005, 03:40 AM
looks like russky camo