Canada Lawmakers OK Gay Marriage Bill

[ramy]

:cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :roll: :roll: :cantbeli:

TORONTO - Canada's House of Commons voted Tuesday to legalize gay marriage, passing landmark legislation that would grant all same-*** couples in Canada the same legal rights as those in traditional unions between a man and a woman.

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The bill passed as expected, despite opposition from Conservatives and religious leaders. The legislation drafted by Prime Minister Paul Martin's minority Liberal Party government was also expected to easily pass the Senate and become federal law by the end of July.

The Netherlands and Belgium are the only other two nations that allow gay marriage nationwide.

More here :

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050629/ap_on_re_ca/canada_gay_marriage

[EasyC]

the world needs more lesbians.

yippy ki yay.

[Aerosoul]

:cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :roll: :roll: :cantbeli:

Problem?

[Kaapeli]

The Netherlands and Belgium are the only other two nations that allow gay marriage nationwide.

Gay marriage perhaps. But same-*** civil unions are legal or under serious consideration in most of Europe.
The difference between marriage and civil union is very small or even nonexistent (only the name being different) in most cases.

[Drunkensquid]

What's next? Some people will want to marry sheeps, goats, pigs, dogs, cats and they will want to call it a marriege. :cantbeli:

[Rictor]

Sure, if goats, pigs and dogs walked on two legs, had opposable thumbs and spoke English, more power to them. Or can you not distinguish between people and animals? Honestly, let them marry, who cares. It's not like marriage is sacred, the freaking divorce rate is 50%+. That boat sailed a long time ago.

[Kaapeli]

What's next? Some people will want to marry sheeps, goats, pigs, dogs, cats and they will want to call it a marriege. :cantbeli:

I bet that's pretty much what wahhabi islamists are thinking too: "If we allow women to have some freedom like not forcing them to wear a burkha then next they'll be fornicating with goats!"

[Aerosoul]

What's next? Some people will want to marry sheeps, goats, pigs, dogs, cats and they will want to call it a marriege. :cantbeli:

I bet that's pretty much what wahhabi islamists are thinking too: "If we allow women to have some freedom like not forcing them to wear a burkha then next they'll be fornicating with goats!"

x2.

[Turhapuro]

Who cares?

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Who cares?

X100

If your not gay, why the f*ck would it matter to most people?

[Igor01]

Who cares?

X100

If your not gay, why the f*ck would it matter to most people?

The institution of family is more than just a legal union between two partners, it's the very foundation of our society. Many feel that giving gay unions the same status as the traditional family erodes the basis of a stable society.

[BigBaribal]

Who cares?

X100

If your not gay, why the f*ck would it matter to most people?

The institution of family is more than just a legal union between two partners, it's the very foundation of our society. Many feel that giving gay unions the same status as the traditional family erodes the basis of a stable society.

x2, perfect resume.

Btw, three good cartoons:

Funny side:

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http://img216.echo.cx/img216/7178/stayskal6bm.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)





Sad side:

http://img216.echo.cx/img216/4883/****wright2tq.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)

[Bia]

I could care less.

I dont want to know the habits of hetero ******s or homo******s.

What is this obsession with others caring who screws who?

I simply don't get it.

[Igor01]

I could care less.

I dont want to know the habits of hetero ******s or homo******s.

What is this obsession with others caring who screws who?

I simply don't get it.

It's not about having ***, it's about family values in the face of destabilizing world. The governments want you to treat this as just a matter of "who's screwing who" and therefore not care. As boring as it may sound, morals and family is what keeps our world together, when either or both degrade - the society collapses. If you like history you know what I mean.

[Kaapeli]

It's not about having ***, it's about family values in the face of destabilizing world. The governments want you to treat this as just a matter of "who's screwing who" and therefore not care. As boring as it may sound, morals and family is what keeps our world together, when either or both degrade - the society collapses. If you like history you know what I mean.

Would you like to elaborate on your historical perspective? Any examples perhaps?

How does gay marriage affect other people? Do straight people turn into gays because of it? Do straight people suddenly stop marrying eachother? How does it affect an average citizen in any way?

On the positive side: Gay community is happier, their relationships are propably just a bit safer and longer lasting and ofcourse people have more freedom now.
All this in my home country where gay civil unions are legal.

[Bia]

It's not about having ***, it's about family values in the face of destabilizing world. The governments want you to treat this as just a matter of "who's screwing who" and therefore not care. As boring as it may sound, morals and family is what keeps our world together, when either or both degrade - the society collapses. If you like history you know what I mean.

I understand your view.
However I think if homo******ity never even existaed....the famliy values would still be the the state of deteroriation as they are now.
It goes very deep in my opinion and it's my view that homophobes use the "family values deteroriating" as a method of combating homo******ity.

Thing is.....being gay is like crime. (not literally)
Both have always existed....but the reporting of either has increased at a staggering rate.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Who cares?

X100

If your not gay, why the f*ck would it matter to most people?

The institution of family is more than just a legal union between two partners, it's the very foundation of our society. Many feel that giving gay unions the same status as the traditional family erodes the basis of a stable society.

I agree with you on most things Igor, but on this subject no. :P

With the divorce rate at 50%, and alot of "single parents" these days (I was raised under one myself) traditional family's are venturing into a thing of the past. I can't remeber the exact percentage of single parent families in Canada, but last time I heard it was realitively high.

Besides, whats left of the family insitution will be long gone once my generation starts reprocreating. :lol:

[Hawkeye]

woot
Good job!
Now let Spain follow

[Knutsen]

I just want to add one thing many homophobes here seem to forget: For those of you who are straight and fear gays destroy the family.... Nobody is going to FORCE you marry a person of the same ***!! You'll still marry the one you love, and no gay marriage is going to change that. Not having gay marriage is going to "save" the family. What makes you think not allowing marriages will change anything? Gays will still be gays, and as such, they're not going to marry a person they "should" just because they can't marry among themselves, they simply won't marry anyone. As simple as that. Gay marriages are only giving legal coverage to a situation that is REAL in today's society, that is, people living as "normal" couples, and as such they have some right which should be guaranteed.


Btw, as Hawkeye said: Tomorrow Spain will approve it in the Parliament. Damn Canucks, they did it by surprise to steal our place in the news p-)

[Igor01]

Would you like to elaborate on your historical perspective? Any examples perhaps?

How does gay marriage affect other people? Do straight people turn into gays because of it? Do straight people suddenly stop marrying eachother? How does it affect an average citizen in any way?

On the positive side: Gay community is happier, their relationships are propably just a bit safer and longer lasting and ofcourse people have more freedom now.
All this in my home country where gay civil unions are legal.

All valid questions that must be answered but instead of reinventing the wheel here I'll just link the site I agree with wholeheartedly (they list and discuss 20 reasons commonly used to defend the idea of gay marriage): http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homo******ity/ho0064.html#12


Some excerpts:

Most people assume that hetero******ity is a given of nature and thus not vulnerable to cultural change, that nothing will ever discourage straight people from getting together and starting families. But we argue — and this is important — that hetero****** bonding must indeed be deliberately fostered by a distinctive and supportive culture.

Because hetero****** bonding is directly related to both reproduction and survival, and because it involves much more than copulation, all human societies have actively fostered it (although some have also allowed or even encouraged homo******ity in specific circumstances). This is done through culture: rules, customs, laws, symbols, rituals, incentives, rewards, and other public mechanisms. So deeply embedded are these, however, that few people are consciously aware of them.

So how could marriage be harmed by adding a few gay couples? A good question, especially when you consider the deplorable state of marriage right now, which has been caused by hedonistic and irresponsible straight people.

Marriage is a complex institution. It must do several things (and, from an anthropological and historical perspective, fostering the emotional gratification of two adults is the least important). It must foster the bonds between men and women for at least three reasons: to encourage the birth and rearing of children (at least to the extent necessary for preserving and fostering society); to provide an appropriate setting for children growing to maturity; and — something usually forgotten — to ensure the co-operation of men and women for the common good. Moreover, it must foster the bonds between men and children, otherwise men would have little incentive to become active participants in family life. Finally, it helps provide men with a healthy masculine identity based on a distinctive, necessary, and publicly valued contribution to society — fatherhood — especially when no other contribution is considered acceptable.

....

Most people like to consider their society a tolerant one, and this is certainly laudable. But no society could endure if tolerance were taken to its ultimate conclusion: the belief that "anything goes." In addition to tolerance — otherwise known as "love," "caring," or "compassion" — every society must be guided by wisdom. And that requires citizens to be as reasonable as they are tolerant.

[Resevoir Hogs]

I don't care what the government says, I'll always know that marriage belongs to hetero******s, at least we can have kids with the one we love. I don't hate homo******s, but honestly it'll never be the same for you because biologically there's no outcome like children. So to me to see hetero******s and homo******s in a equal light just will never happen.

[Anonymosity]

Who cares? Just because some religon somehow thinks they "copywrited" the term of marriage they think they can control the rest? Religon is a disease, and even though Im not communist, it IS the opiate of the masses

[ZeroZen]

For me, hetoros and homos are phycological disease and but be treated with buttplugs. they are having mentality retardation. It is causing social havoc and moral degradation, this must be stop. if you saw a cute guy or ***** and your ***** just erected bcoz of that, please go to your mental doctors to neutered you.....

[WarriorMonk]

I just want to add one thing many homophobes here seem to forget: For those of you who are straight and fear gays destroy the family.... Nobody is going to FORCE you marry a person of the same ***!! You'll still marry the one you love, and no gay marriage is going to change that. Not having gay marriage is going to "save" the family. What makes you think not allowing marriages will change anything? Gays will still be gays, and as such, they're not going to marry a person they "should" just because they can't marry among themselves, they simply won't marry anyone. As simple as that. Gay marriages are only giving legal coverage to a situation that is REAL in today's society, that is, people living as "normal" couples, and as such they have some right which should be guaranteed.


Btw, as Hawkeye said: Tomorrow Spain will approve it in the Parliament. Damn Canucks, they did it by surprise to steal our place in the news p-)

Nobody really forces and pushes you...

I mean...the concept of homo******ity was an ideal...

how do you think ideals and ideas get around then?

People tell you those ideas and try and indoctrinate you or you indoctrinate yourself...

I don't mind its existence right now, but we should eliminate the cause of becoming homo****** in order to stop all the ruckus, if we can find it at all.

[Knutsen]

People tell you those ideas and try and indoctrinate you or you indoctrinate yourself...

I don't mind its existence right now, but we should eliminate the cause of becoming homo****** in order to stop all the ruckus, if we can find it at all.

Homo******ity is not like the new trendy restaurant in town you hear about. Nobody can indoctrinate you into your ****** preferences.

[WarriorMonk]

People tell you those ideas and try and indoctrinate you or you indoctrinate yourself...

I don't mind its existence right now, but we should eliminate the cause of becoming homo****** in order to stop all the ruckus, if we can find it at all.

Homo******ity is not like the new trendy restaurant in town you hear about. Nobody can indoctrinate you into your ****** preferences.

So how did it all start in the first place then?

[Kaapeli]

So how did it all start in the first place then?

Homo******ity exists in animal kingdom too so it's propably something you're born with and not a cultural preference. Homo******s brain functions a bit differently too.

[username]

the world needs more lesbians.

yippy ki yay.

No dude thats bad, VERY VERY BAD!
You see the more lesbians there are the less chance I have of getting ***. What we want is more homo****** males, because the more gay guys there are the more chicks for us. :D

As Michael Moore once said "The more gay guys there are, the more babes for me!"

Finally I would like to comment that allowing same *** marriges in Canada is a good step forward. Well done Canada!

[Kaapeli]

No dude thats bad, VERY VERY BAD!
You see the more lesbians there are the less chance I have of getting ***. What we want is more homo****** males, because the more gay guys there are the more chicks for us. :D

As Michael Moore once said "The more gay guys there are, the more babes for me!"

This is exactly what I've been thinking. :D

btw. Statistically there are more gays than lesbians.

[Haiw]

For me, hetoros and homos are phycological disease and but be treated with buttplugs. they are having mentality retardation. It is causing social havoc and moral degradation, this must be stop. if you saw a cute guy or ***** and your ***** just erected bcoz of that, please go to your mental doctors to neutered you.....
http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/hitler.gif
I couldn't agree with you more, mein freund.




People tell you those ideas and try and indoctrinate you or you indoctrinate yourself...

I don't mind its existence right now, but we should eliminate the cause of becoming homo****** in order to stop all the ruckus, if we can find it at all.

Homo******ity is not like the new trendy restaurant in town you hear about. Nobody can indoctrinate you into your ****** preferences.

So how did it all start in the first place then?
It didn't 'start'... it was around with the Greeks and even before that. It also happens with animals. If you're thinking about 'eliminating the cause of becoming homo******', I invite you to share the table with Mr. Hitler. :roll:

[Hawkeye]

Who cares? Just because some religon somehow thinks they "copywrited" the term of marriage they think they can control the rest? Religon is a disease, (and even though Im not communist), it IS the opiate of the masses

I agree

[Hoplite_V]

I couldn't give two ****s who gets married.

I don't have a problem with guys marrying guys. I know some people are hung up over the wording, to me thats semantics. Reminds me of my lesbian highschool english teacher.

ITS NOT A FIREMAN ITS A FIREFIGHTER. ITS A SEWER COVER NOT A MAN HOLE COVER. DONT SAY HISTORY BECAUSE IT SOUNDS TOO MUCH LIKE HIS-STORY.
Dumb bitch.

What does bother me about homo******s is the seeming need to have this in your face approach to it. Maybe they feel they've been repressed or something and need to make up for it somehow. Very annoying.
It reminds me new troops in the army who go out in public and act very loud and act like they need to make sure everyone around them knows they are in the army.
Big ****ing deal.

What pisses me off the most about this whole issue is the catholic church and their big crusade against it.

Hey you know what? Before you **** your robes over two boys kissing maybe you should put a little more effort in stopping your preists from ****ing children.

Stop covering the **** up (no pun intended) and start firing the assholes out of the church.

[bubkusjones]

You know what? Screw it.

I had a long reply to some people here, but to hell with it.



Go Canada!!!

[Durandal]

It's not about having ***, it's about family values in the face of destabilizing world. The governments want you to treat this as just a matter of "who's screwing who" and therefore not care. As boring as it may sound, morals and family is what keeps our world together, when either or both degrade - the society collapses. If you like history you know what I mean.

That's the funniest thing I have read all day...or saddest...not too sure which yet.

I am quite well read when it comes to history. Please ball all means, I would LOVE to hear YOUR lessons.

Or are you going to lecture us on how societies fell because of homo******ity? rofl

Actually, you want to know what is going to erode MY nation's foundation?

A) Telling kids intelligent design is an actual science.
B) Increasing debt both national and personal.
C) Politicians and judges who think taking personal property is OK.
D) Steering away from stem cell research...one of the single most important medical breakthroughs today.

But, go on and blame queers getting married for the degeneration of marriage and society.

[gaijinsamurai]

Why should we give a rat's ass about what two adults want to do to eacthother? So you don't like homo******ity? Fine; choose to ignore it! Just like Durandel wrote, there are far more important issues than what a couple of guys want to do with each other's peepees!!!

[hoganshero]

My only beef with homo****** marriage is that it took so long to pass and both sides put up such a ruckus that it took the spotlight of decidedly more important issues such as ad-scam and the deplorable state of Canada's military

[Durandal]

My only beef with homo****** marriage is that it took so long to pass and both sides put up such a ruckus that it took the spotlight of decidedly more important issues such as ad-scam and the deplorable state of Canada's military

Then blame the losers that fought against homo******s...

Imagine if there were not a bunch of arrogant jackasses that thought they knew what was right or wrong...morally...and homo******s got the same rights as everyone else.

No debate, just a quick law passed.

But nooooo...people have to step up and preach hate and try to force their faith on the rest of the people. Bunch of mini-Hitlers if you ask me.

[Warlord]

Evolution of Man.


Cro Magnon.............Homo Erectus...............Homo Sapiens....................Homo ******.........?

[Knutsen]

hey guys, if you're so sure that homo******ity will destroy the human race, why don't you look at yourselves? You are 100% straight, that means nothing will change your mind, you will always have *** with women. Well , there are billions in that situation, and that is a guarantee that the world won't come to an end thanks to homo ******ity

[dacanadianbomb]

The values of society do not rest in the "religous" bloody family values.The values of being loving,respecting, honest,forthcoming and all those other goodies, have nothing to do with traditional marriage or marriage at all,IMHO.

Your either brought up a wanker , or not, or choose to be a wanker, or not.

Wether you see two men or woman loving each other, it still is love, a genuine feeling .

So whats all this family values that are getting destroyed about ?
The value that mom should be in the kitchen ?
That dad should go take the kid to play baseball ?
Its a religous thing thats all.

I dont care what they do, its their business until they start impeding my freedom . And I havent seen any gays impeding my freedom lately.

There is one thing though, I have seen a few homo******s who are as well particularly in your face about it. I felt they thought they had to lay a point down, or wanted to see my reaction to it. I really let them down when they realised I didnt have time to care about what they banged.