Most evil government/organization ever?

[StarvingStudent47]

If you had to name ONE government/organization as the most evil force ever, which would it be? Stalinist USSR? Cold War USSR? Modern America? Cold War America? Nazi Germany? Al-Qaeda? KGB? CIA? Communist China?

Just curious what people would say and why.

[EvanL]

If you had to name ONE government/organization as the most evil force ever, which would it be? Stalinist USSR? Cold War USSR? Modern America? Cold War America? Nazi Germany? Al-Qaeda? KGB? CIA? Communist China?

Just curious what people would say and why.
Khmer Rouge

[Ratamacue]

I'm not an expert, but I'd say Nazi Germany or Stalinist USSR.

[Jack Mehoff]

SS

[Beowulf]

NAMBLA

[EvanL]

NAMBLA
hahaha nice choice.
I wonder if seoulstriker has renewed his membership yet?

[Jack Mehoff]

PETA

[stateofequilibrium]

PETA

Mmmmm, tough one to beat. Let me try.. Homeland Security!

Well, at least it has the potential for it with Patriot Act II now in force.

[Skaman]

The Hutus in Rwanda.

Between April and June 1994, an estimated 800,000 Rwandans were killed in the space of 100 days.
Most of the dead were Tutsis - and most of those who perpetrated the violence were Hutus.

Even for a country with such a turbulent history as Rwanda, the scale and speed of the slaughter left its people reeling

The genocide was sparked by the death of the Rwandan president Juvenal Habyarimana, a Hutu, when his plane was shot down above Kigali airport on 6 April 1994.

Within hours, a campaign of violence spread from the capital throughout the country, and did not subside until three months later.

But the death of the president was by no means the only cause of Africa's largest genocide in modern times.

History of violence

Ethnic tension in Rwanda is nothing new. There have been always been disagreements between the majority Hutus and minority Tutsis, but the animosity between them has grown substantially since the colonial period.

The two ethnic groups are actually very similar - they speak the same language, inhabit the same areas and follow the same traditions.

But when the Belgian colonists arrived in 1916, they saw the two groups as distinct entities, and even produced identity cards classifying people according to their ethnicity

The Belgians considered the Tutsis as superior to the Hutus. Not surprisingly, the Tutsis welcomed this idea, and for the next 20 years they enjoyed better jobs and educational opportunities than their neighbours.

Resentment among the Hutus gradually built up, culminating in a series of riots in 1959. More than 20,000 Tutsis were killed, and many more fled to the neighbouring countries of Burundi, Tanzania and Uganda.

When Belgium relinquished power and granted Rwanda independence in 1962, the Hutus took their place. Over subsequent decades, the Tutsis were portrayed as the scapegoats for every crisis.

Building up to genocide

This was still the case in the years before the genocide. The economic situation worsened and the incumbent president, Juvenal Habyarimana, began losing popularity.

At the same time, Tutsi refugees in Uganda - supported by some moderate Hutus - were forming the Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF). Their aim was to overthrow Habyarimana and secure their right to return to their homeland.

Habyarimana chose to exploit this threat as a way to bring dissident Hutus back to his side, and Tutsis inside Rwanda were accused of being RPF collaborators.

In August 1993, after several attacks and months of negotiation, a peace accord was signed between Habyarimana and the RPF, but it did little to stop the continued unrest.

When Habyarimana's plane was shot down at the beginning of April 1994, it was the final nail in the coffin.

Exactly who killed the president - and with him the president of Burundi and many chief members of staff - has not been established, but the effect was both instantaneous and catastrophic.

Mass murder

In Kigali, the presidential guard immediately initiated a campaign of retribution. Leaders of the political opposition were murdered, and almost immediately, the slaughter of Tutsis and moderate Hutus began.

Within hours, recruits were dispatched all over the country to carry out a wave of slaughter.

The early organisers included military officials, politicians and businessmen, but soon many others joined in the mayhem.

Encouraged by the presidential guard and radio propaganda, an unofficial militia group called the Interahamwe (meaning those who attack together) was mobilised. At its peak, this group was 30,000-strong.

Soldiers and police officers encouraged ordinary citizens to take part. In some cases, Hutu civilians were forced to murder their Tutsi neighbours by military personnel.

Participants were often given incentives, such as money or food, and some were even told they could appropriate the land of the Tutsis they killed.

On the ground at least, the Rwandans were largely left alone by the international community. UN troops withdrew after the murder of 10 soldiers.

The day after Habyarimana's death, the RPF renewed their assault on government forces, and numerous attempts by the UN to negotiate a ceasefire came to nothing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1285000/images/_1288230_bones300.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1285000/images/_1288230_skulls150.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1285000/images/_1288230_refugees150.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1288230.stm

[Salty Dog]

NAMBLA

i'm gonna f***ing kill NAMBLA. all the members, dead.... no survivors

[stateofequilibrium]

The Hutus in Rwanda.

Between April and June 1994, an estimated 800,000 Rwandans were killed in the space of 100 days.
Most of the dead were Tutsis - and most of those who perpetrated the violence were Hutus.


Yeah, I remember following the news on these events as closely as I could (I was just entering High School). It was just atrocious where they would write about the rivers clogging with bodies and water running red.

But yup, most people forgot about it now.. Africa doesn't have as good as a publicity upkeep as the "Holocaust" in Europe. Nor do I guess the Asians (Korean, Chinese) in WWII..

[EvanL]

I also wanna add another one.
Pinochet.
Sadly enough he was sponsored by the CIA and the wolrd turned a blind eye to what he was doing.

[NcDeuce]

http://mysite.freeserve.com/dr.evil/images/0-picture.gif

[EvanL]

Im glad we have been able to be serious about this thread *cough* [sarcasm] *cough*

[Vance]

OMG Corporate America

[EvanL]

OMG Corporate America
No input? Care to join in the conversation?

[Ratamacue]

OMG Corporate America
No input? Care to join in the conversation?
Evan, relax. Remember, this is in the off-topic forum.

[Skaman]

OMG Corporate America
No input? Care to join in the conversation?

While not a regime or government institution responsible for millions of deaths, it is nonetheless corruptive, manipulative and above all detrimental on a national cultural scale throughout the global community.

[StarvingStudent47]

Evan, relax--not all replies need to be serious. This thread has enough room for serious and non-serious responses alike.

I'm going to say Nazi Germany. While other genocides have had greater body counts than the Holocaust (ie Stalin's purges, Congo civil war, etc), no government has ever organized the (attempted) complete annihilation of an entire race of people so systematically and calmly. When I look at the Congo or Stalin's USSR, I see animal rage. When I look at Nazi Germany, I see something much darker in the hearts of human beings.

[StarvingStudent47]

While not a regime or government institution responsible for millions of deaths, it is nonetheless corruptive, manipulative and above all detrimental on a national cultural scale throughout the global community.

You're right. My life would be much nicer if you didn't have a corporate-built computer.

p-)

[Turd Ferguson]

StarvingStudent47 either you have overlooked or have not been informed of Stalin's forced starvation of nearly 7 million Ukrainians. It might not be common knowledge but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Because it did.
I would like to recommend http://www.artukraine.com/famineart/index.htm

[James]

Between the Holocaust and the Allied soldiers who died (as well as their own citizens) as a result of a war of agression that they blatantly started, my vote goes to Nazi Germany. They were directly responsible for the deaths of as many as 35 MILLION people.

[Turd Ferguson]

Let's not forget that Stalin and Hitler were allies until the commencement of Op. Barbarosa. They invaded Poland together.

Hell, they were both pretty damned evil. I'd say it's a tie.

But, considering the civilians, that was up to the Allies. They were following the doctrine established by the Lindemann Plan, which set into motion the bombing of the German civilian populace in such an unrelenting fashion that the ordinary German citizen would see it fit to rise up against Hitler.
The Lindemann Plan was approved by Churchill and his War Cabinet for use against the average German. Sounds pretty barbaric. Maybe Churchill shared some of Hitler's syphillis.
The plan actually makes note that bombing "middle-class" homes wouldn't be prudent because the bombs could be better spent on more densely built-up and more populated larger cities, such as Dresden (13 Feb 1945 773 Avro Lancasters bombed Dresden. later the USAAF deployed over 527 B-17's to follow up the RAF attack(fire-bombing). It is believed 35,000-100,000 died in these raids.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

MICROSOFT p-)

On the serious note I'll say Stalin wasnt great same with Hitler. The Hutu's are pretty harsh, same with the Taliban.

[stuntman]

Any country that practices appeasement.

[James]

Let's not forget that Stalin and Hitler were allies until the commencement of Op. Barbarosa. They invaded Poland together.

Hell, they were both pretty damned evil. I'd say it's a tie.

But, considering the civilians, that was up to the Allies. They were following the doctrine established by the Lindemann Plan, which set into motion the bombing of the German civilian populace in such an unrelenting fashion that the ordinary German citizen would see it fit to rise up against Hitler.
The Lindemann Plan was approved by Churchill and his War Cabinet for use against the average German. Sounds pretty barbaric. Maybe Churchill shared some of Hitler's syphillis.
The plan actually makes note that bombing "middle-class" homes wouldn't be prudent because the bombs could be better spent on more densely built-up and more populated larger cities, such as Dresden (13 Feb 1945 773 Avro Lancasters bombed Dresden. later the USAAF deployed over 527 B-17's to follow up the RAF attack(fire-bombing). It is believed 35,000-100,000 died in these raids.

In my opinion, the bad things Stalin did were political. Adolf Hitler was Lucifer incarnate. Stalin was very rational in his own way. Hitler was a maniac. If I was to go back in time, I feel I could sit down with Stalin and have a conversation, even though he was a bad guy. I would kill Adolf as soon as I laid eyes on him. Hitler was a monster.

As to your comments about bombing - it only makes sense, don't you think, that the bombs should be dropped on densley populated areas if your goal is to kill as many people as possible? A bomb on an apartment building can get you several hundred dead. A bomb oin a house will get you a single family.

It was total war. I'm not going to say that it was right or wrong. It was seen as best thing to do at the time by the British and the U.S.

[StarvingStudent47]

But, considering the civilians, that was up to the Allies. They were following the doctrine established by the Lindemann Plan, which set into motion the bombing of the German civilian populace in such an unrelenting fashion that the ordinary German citizen would see it fit to rise up against Hitler.
The Lindemann Plan was approved by Churchill and his War Cabinet for use against the average German.

I'm not defending the deliberate targeting of civilians, but you seem to be saying that the Allies introduced this aspect into the war. Didn't the Luftwaffe bomb London before the Allies ever targeted German populations? I'm just trying to get my chronology straight.

Of course "they did it first" isn't an excuse, but it does help explain the act.

[James]

Before London - Spain 1936-1939, Poland 1939, Holland and France in 1940...

[Roger Rabbit]

Appeasement from a position of strength is in some cases a good idea.

Appeasement from a position of weakness (Britain in the 1930's) is not a good idea but in the case of the 1930's then there was not really an alternative that would have been acceptable to the people or politicians of the time.

Anyway i don't know that i could say with the upmost confidence that one specific regime was worse than another. Khmer Rouge is a good choice though.

[spectre5]

I would say modern america is quite evil. I think people should be more scared of that bushdude than hitler or stalin. Atleast they had wise/intelligent men
behind them, something bush doesn't have. :bash:

t.
Antti Korpela

[Marxist203]

If you had to name ONE government/organization as the most evil force ever, which would it be? Stalinist USSR? Cold War USSR? Modern America? Cold War America? Nazi Germany? Al-Qaeda? KGB? CIA? Communist China?

Just curious what people would say and why.
Khmer Rouge

I second that, Ive been watching "7 docs for 7 films" on the history channel. I never quite understood the full scope of what happened there...2 million people were killed by the orders of Pol Pot and the actions of his Regime...and the worst part is, the Americans supported them when the Vietnamese government moved in to stop the Khmer Rouge.

Saddam Hussein was a ****ing choir boy compared to Pol Pot.

[Rantanplan]

Mc Donalds

They are responsible for the deaths of millions of fat Americans

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38157000/jpg/_38157357_fat_us_grab_300.jpg

[James]

I would say modern america is quite evil. I think people should be more scared of that bushdude than hitler or stalin. Atleast they had wise/intelligent men
behind them, something bush doesn't have. :bash:

t.
Antti Korpela

Well, we had to expect such a comment sooner or later... :roll:

Why do you think that people should be more afraid og Bush than Hitler or Stalin? Do you feel that Bush wants to conquer the world? Start genocide and the mass murder of his own population? Deport tens of millions of people to Alaska?

I'm just curious. Your statement was rather extreme. Please advise.

[Tane Angle]

That Uruk-Hae army in the Two Towers was pretty dang evil looking. "What can men do against such bling hatred?" or something along those lines.

But seriously, Nazi Germany might be it, because, as others have already said, the level of calculation and how systematic it was. Most of the other instances weren't premeditated and thought out to the same extent, but are equally horrible and tragic. Have a good one, just some thoughts...

[Vance]

I would say modern america is quite evil. I think people should be more scared of that bushdude than hitler or stalin. Atleast they had wise/intelligent men
behind them, something bush doesn't have. :bash:

t.
Antti Korpela
I'm glad the Bush whackers have sunken to personal insults. Now I know how much they care about making civilized arguments.

[Nawlins]

Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, and Ted Turner

[Red]

The Government of the Federal republic of Nigeria is the most evil to me.This is a country that had/has so much potential to be a real economic power but rather they became a joke.I served that country put my life on the line,and what was i risking it for?Nothing.The elites of the country keep al the money for the elites and their children.While people starve to death.An ordinary mechanic from the US would be treated like a king.The Government is responsible for the death of over a million people but no one talks about it. :fork:

[Kriz]

The brotherhood of nod (lets see who knows his gaming classics :p)

[EvanL]

The brotherhood of nod (lets see who knows his gaming classics :p)
Command and Conquer am i right?

[Operation Ivy]

Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, and Ted Turner

Agreed :-*$ and McDonalds :fork:

[Ratamacue]

Don't forget Martha Stewart.

[Jack Mehoff]

Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, and Ted Turner

and Nawlins

[Nawlins]

Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, and Ted Turner

and Nawlins

Ouch. :bash:

[Turd Ferguson]

StarvingStudent47 and James: It is completely possible to win a war without specifically targeting the enemy's civilian populace.

Agreed both sides did it, and there will always be collateral damage in any armed conflict, you can bomb factories and other infrastructure without having to wipeout an entire city.

I agree that dropping bombs on densely populated areas will achieve a significantly high body count, but a war of attrition is not won by killing innocent families and razing entire city blocks.

Also, I don't believe that because Stalin was more politically motivated to murder, that it makes it less insane. If in fact, he was rational and not criminally insane Stalin was more of a monster than anyone else in history because he would have been aware about the millions he was starving to death or executing.

Stalin was responsible for the murder of between 7-10 million people with his forced starvation of the Ukraine from 1932-33.
This is highly informative: http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine/

[Jack Mehoff]

Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, and Ted Turner

and Nawlins

Ouch. :bash:

long time no see cajun babe

[Midtown]

Rosie O donnel, I hate that fat bitch. **** oprah too.

[ChuckThunder]

PETA

Same here.

PETA>>> :fork: <<<ME!

[HappyCat]

is it too late to add Greenpeace to the list?

[Skaman]

is it too late to add Greenpeace to the list?

This better be a joke.

[Salty Dog]

Amnesty international!!!!!!!! p-)

[sethen]

I vote for the English government and its monarchy. They are pure unadulterated evil!

[Flagg]

My choice is:

Organized Religion

Anyone who uses the name of God to enrich themselves or manipulate people into taking up arms against their fellow man should be shot.

[sethen]

I hate England and all the fascists who defend it!!!!

[James]

StarvingStudent47 and James: It is completely possible to win a war without specifically targeting the enemy's civilian populace.

Agreed both sides did it, and there will always be collateral damage in any armed conflict, you can bomb factories and other infrastructure without having to wipeout an entire city.

I agree that dropping bombs on densely populated areas will achieve a significantly high body count, but a war of attrition is not won by killing innocent families and razing entire city blocks.

Also, I don't believe that because Stalin was more politically motivated to murder, that it makes it less insane. If in fact, he was rational and not criminally insane Stalin was more of a monster than anyone else in history because he would have been aware about the millions he was starving to death or executing.

Stalin was responsible for the murder of between 7-10 million people with his forced starvation of the Ukraine from 1932-33.
This is highly informative: http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine/

Here's what I said re: bombing -


It was total war. I'm not going to say that it was right or wrong. It was seen as best thing to do at the time by the British and the U.S.


In fact, through the study of history, it is clear that the strategic bombing of Germany did little to hasten the end of the war. If memory serves me, German war production was at its peak in late 1944. The bombing was an attempt to break the will of the German people, and it didn't work.

As for the Hitler vs. Stalin thing, you are entitled to your opinion, and I to mine. Nazi Germany killed nearly 30 million Soviets citizens alone between 1941 and 1945. Don't get me wrong, I think Stalin was a pretty bad guy. I just think Hitler was worse.

[StarvingStudent47]

And if I remember correctly, ALL I said about bombing was "they did it first." I wasn't touching the morality of strategic bombing during WWII with a thirty-foot pole, I was just making it clear that the Axis did it first.

As for the Hitler v. Stalin thing--yes, you've made it clear why you think Stalin is worse. But in the end, they're two different flavors of evil, and you cannot prove that Stalin was worse than Hitler any more than I can prove vice-versa. It's like trying to prove that chocolate ice cream tastes better than vanilla. As much as I hate the phrase, I think we're going to have to "agree to disagree" here.

And like James, while I consider Hitler the most evil person of all time, there is no question in my mind that Stalin gets the silver medal.

[StarvingStudent47]

I vote for the English government and its monarchy. They are pure unadulterated evil!


I hate England and all the fascists who defend it!!!!

Uh...you want to explain that a bit more? I'm not sure precisely what you're talking about. Are you talking about colonial Britain or modern Britain? Are you Irish or Indian or something? Just curious.

[Roger Rabbit]

Ignore him SS47, he's boviously a turd burgler looking to start something.

[Dalleer]

My choice is:

Organized Religion

Anyone who uses the name of God to enrich themselves or manipulate people into taking up arms against their fellow man should be shot.

I have to agree 100 %.

[Chris O`Crooh]

Polish Social Security - Zaklad Ubezpieczen Spolecznych, and tax collector - Urzad Skarbowy.

Do you know, that we have 3 institutions: Tax Office, Tax Chamber, and Tax Police. Nobody knows exactly, in what they differ, but everybody knows, that thet punish you sometimes for nothing.

One of Polish businessmen found completely legal way of having VAT refund. His firm has been almost ruined by Tax Office, and - altough Supreme Court announced, that he was innocent - Office doesn`t want to admit they were wrong.

[Saranof]

THE GREAT SATAN USA!!!!

:|

[Trigger]

THE GREAT SATAN USA!!!!

:|
Thanks Osama, now get the f**k back in your cave. :fork:

[Turd Ferguson]

StarvingStudent47 and James: Please don't take my point of view as an offensive gesture.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, which is what makes these open forums so great.
Nazi Germany may have been responsible for the deaths of "nearly 30 million Soviet citizens alone between 1941 and 1945", but the 7-10 million Ukrainians Stalin let starve to death weren't the enemy or colateral damage, they were his "own" people. That's not a war crime it's just plain simple mass murder.
Agreeing to disagree sits fine with me.

[LongWayToTheTop]

Hmm i wouldnt trust america too much but the Nazis nearly took over the world but o well.

[OnTheRocks]

I would have to say either CSN (swedish organisation that is supposed to grant loans to students) or Zionists..

[Kriz]

Majestic 12

[Kriz]

The brotherhood of nod (lets see who knows his gaming classics :p)
Command and Conquer am i right?

Yes indeed :)

[Kitsune]

The most evil organisation of all time?

Walt Disney Inc. of course !

[Trigger]

You just crossed the line with that one kitsune. Don't make me go all 'Jimminy Cricket' on you. :D

[Deuterium]

is it too late to add Greenpeace to the list?

This better be a joke.

I think so, the thread said evil not clueless and ignorant.

[ChuckThunder]

is it too late to add Greenpeace to the list?

This better be a joke.

I think so, the thread said evil not clueless and ignorant.

I was watching RealTV a while ago and they had a video of these Greenpeace guys on a ship trying to stop the French Navy from conducting nuclear testing in the area. So the Greenpeace people lock themselves in the control room. About five minutes pass by in the video (one of the GP guys was recording the event) then these French VBSS guys come out of no where and then appear outside the control room doors, try to open them, no luck. The GP guys started taunting them. So one of the French guys rifle butts the door window and breaks the glass. The GP guys freaked out and ran to the corner of the room. The French guys threw in flashbang after flashbang and the GP guys finally gave up and the French destroyed their ship, haha.

[Vance]

French - 1
Greenpeace - 0

[Salty Dog]

is it too late to add Greenpeace to the list?

This better be a joke.

I think so, the thread said evil not clueless and ignorant.

I was watching RealTV a while ago and they had a video of these Greenpeace guys on a ship trying to stop the French Navy from conducting nuclear testing in the area. So the Greenpeace people lock themselves in the control room. About five minutes pass by in the video (one of the GP guys was recording the event) then these French VBSS guys come out of no where and then appear outside the control room doors, try to open them, no luck. The GP guys started taunting them. So one of the French guys rifle butts the door window and breaks the glass. The GP guys freaked out and ran to the corner of the room. The French guys threw in flashbang after flashbang and the GP guys finally gave up and the French destroyed their ship, haha.

so they tried to make a stand but got the **** flashed out of em.......gotta love it.

[StarvingStudent47]

StarvingStudent47 and James: Please don't take my point of view as an offensive gesture.
Oh, I never thought there was anything offensive about it. I may have not agreed with you, but there was not an ounce of hostility with me. Besides, you quote the Scorpions in your signature, and that cracks me up :lol:

[Turd Ferguson]

I do my best, StarvingStudent47.
If only more people liked the Scorpions... :D

[NcDeuce]

http://mysite.freeserve.com/dr.evil/images/0-picture.gif

Here ya go ducimus.

[Seiyuuki]

Internal Revenue Service (IRS)

[JunglistSoldier]

haha, greenpeace=loose.

Most evil organisation? State OG.

[sethen]

Starving student>>> I am an " American" of Scotch-Irish descent on my mothers side. For those who don't know what that is I refer you to the term, Scottish lowlander. The S-I aren't really Scotch or Irish. They are deportees from Germany, Norway and Scandinavia. They were force to the low lying areas of Scotland. They were seen as a political threat to "Royalty" and its interests. They were thus deported to Northern Ireland as endentured servants. They became a threat to "Royal" interests there and subsequently deported to South Carolina. We further endured hundreds of years of oppression from the toothless bastards untill we said, "Enough!" This is what we call the, "American Revolution." It was really a civil war. First let me say that the incompetent and corrupt Colonial Army won jack-**** down there. If it wasn't for the Scotch-Irish & Melungeon Militias American would never enjoyed it'd temporary independance from England. We took every chance to indulge our hatred for the Limey bastards. We slaughtered them and the loyalists. Ever heard of the , "Swamp Fox?" He was one of us! Watch the Patriot, though hokey and fictionalized its the ONLY film that has tackled the subject!

Oh by the way,

The Monarchy Had Diana Murdered!

[sethen]

On the Rocks>>> Yees Hard-core zionists are evil. A close second to the British.

[Haiw]

Mmmm yeah let's go dig up old crap... :roll:

The SPANISH!!! BECAUSE THEY INVADED US 400 YEARS AGO AARRGH EVIL BASTARDS!!!1111111111 :|

[Rantanplan]

Mmmm yeah let's go dig up old crap... :roll:

The SPANISH!!! BECAUSE THEY INVADED US 400 YEARS AGO AARRGH EVIL BASTARDS!!!1111111111 :|


No! You damn dutch terrorists started a rebellion against your legitimate sovereign!!! ;) :D

[StarvingStudent47]

Mmmm yeah let's go dig up old crap... :roll:

The SPANISH!!! BECAUSE THEY INVADED US 400 YEARS AGO AARRGH EVIL BASTARDS!!!1111111111 :|

Damn the Assyrians and Babylonians!!!!1111111 They invaded Israel and Judah too!!!!!!!!1111

(American history doesn't go far back enough to be comical, so this will have to do)

[StarvingStudent47]

I do my best, StarvingStudent47.
If only more people liked the Scorpions... :D

Oh, I didn't say I *liked* them. I said they *crack me up*. But when I'm effing trashed (ie right now), they sound pretty cool. I was really into them in seventh grade. I learned about them from an Israeli kid who learned English by listening to hair metal. The kid was nuts. But I got a lot of good memories associated with the band, even if their cheese factor is sky-high. And like I said, when I'm effing trashed (ie right now), they sound really cool. I have Face the Heat on right now, though I'm gonna put on some Iron Maiden next. My neighbors must hate me woot woot woot

[martinexsquaddie]

Were evil we don't care Bahahahahahahahahhaahahahahaaaahhaaaaaaahaaaaaahahhahahahhaaahhaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaahahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhaaa
we still own canada and australia and Bush takes his orders from phil the greek via his mind rays rofl
so much for your rebellion
The Empire strikes back

[sethen]

So much for the British Empire!!! :fork: When was the last time England fought a war that we didn't have to step in and save your asses? ;) If it had been up tom me yall would be speaking Deutch right now!!!! Tschuss!!!! :D

[usa320]

The RIAA.

[Roger Rabbit]

Well think i'm going to go for the Danes, i mean all those Vikings coming over to fair Enland and raping and killing our population, just wait till weend in SAS hit teams to drag out leaders for trials of war crimes. Oh and the Italians, i mean Romans did their fair bit of Imperialism, lets call them evil as well, i mean whatever did the Romans do for us?

Oh yeah and Diana died because she wasn't wearing a seat belt and the car crashed.

[martinexsquaddie]

malaya 1948
indonesia 1970
1st place South east asian wargames :lol:
falkland Islands1982
yemen 1970s
oman 1970s
sneaky devious throughly evil and not giving a damm :lol:

[Sleeping Sun]

The current Bush administration. For the reasons that we all at this site know but most deny...which is sad

I don't hate the United States or it's people. I also greatly admire the US military which has done a lot of good in the world but has att times(read: right now) been in the wrong hands.

http://www.seanparnell.com/George%20W.%20Bush/George%20Bush%20Appreciation.jpg

[Seoulstriker]

NAMBLA
hahaha nice choice.
I wonder if seoulstriker has renewed his membership yet?


as ahnold would say: "yoooou son of a bitch!" :)

[Seoulstriker]

i would say the most evil organization ever was the Khmer Rouge.

[MolliG]

Most evil organisation in the world? Has to be Education Welfare and their Officers... I like... I didn't know I had that amount of days off... ;)

[M1A2U2]

I've got one for you... how bout the Clinton administration when they bombed Iraq and Kosovo? O wait that doesnt count because Clinton is a Demcrat and if he wants to go to war he can. But when Bush goes to war for the same reasons (finding WMDs) everyone changes their minds. Itd be interesting to see what would happen is clinton invaded Iraq

[papasmerf]

The current Bush administration. For the reasons that we all at this site know but most deny...which is sad

I don't hate the United States or it's people. I also greatly admire the US military which has done a lot of good in the world but has att times(read: right now) been in the wrong hands.

http://www.seanparnell.com/George%20W.%20Bush/George%20Bush%20Appreciation.jpg

lmao rofl

[Ratamacue]

Congratulations, Sleeping Sun, you've managed to equate Bush to a monkey once again through facial expressions, a feat that can be accomplished using any politician in the world.

[Fox2]

Re: WW2 Collateral Damage/Civilian Targeting

Just to add something, when the Germans invaded Poland, the Stukas and other bombers realized quickly that if they bomb civilian targets, everyone tries to get out of the city rapidly. Which, in turn, clogs up the transportation system and keeps the military from moving out due to all the civilians. So, basically, they'd bomb the civilians first, then as the civilians clog the roads, they go for the military. Smart, but quite cruel.


I'd have to agree that Nazi Germany is one of the most, if not the single most, dastardly regimes ever.


Second is, of course, PETA. ;)

[UkrainianAmerican]

Elders of zion are the most badass by far p-)