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TuNeRsHaRk
06-30-2005, 07:43 PM
if its not on here just post it

thought itd be intresting to see what weapons you guys favored

Me id have to go with the M1 carbine
http://avecox.free.fr/blog2/images/carbine%20M1.jpg

Frens
06-30-2005, 07:47 PM
1. Thompson
2. MP40
3. MP44
4. MG42
5. M1 carabine
6. Garand
7. Mauser
8. Sten


btw here is my little M1...I love her! :hug:

http://snafu.altervista.org/HPIM1090.JPG
http://snafu.altervista.org/HPIM1274.JPG

ramy
06-30-2005, 07:50 PM
M1 Garand
German K98 Mauser

What can I say.. I am a rifle guy :D

FozzieBear
06-30-2005, 07:54 PM
always loved the bazooka and the m10 achilles

mudbunny
06-30-2005, 08:18 PM
My personal favorite is the M1 Garand. Just a really nice looking rifle with some nice stopping power. On the axis side, the MG42 has a really cool look to it.

Howie Kaluha
06-30-2005, 08:49 PM
M1 Garand shocks teh bollocks p-) woot

Macs.
06-30-2005, 08:50 PM
MG42

FallenAngel
06-30-2005, 09:13 PM
My personal favorite is the M1 Garand. Just a really nice looking rifle with some nice stopping power. On the axis side, the MG42 has a really cool look to it.

x2

EasyC
06-30-2005, 09:23 PM
M1 Carbine.....phat weapon.

TacoDelRio
06-30-2005, 09:34 PM
What? No M3 Grease Gun?

TuNeRsHaRk
06-30-2005, 09:36 PM
What? No M3 Grease Gun?
nah sorry you can only have up to 8 choices on the polls

GazB
06-30-2005, 11:37 PM
PTRD-41

SR15
06-30-2005, 11:47 PM
MG-42

Adam Wilhelm
07-01-2005, 12:13 AM
MG 42 and MP 44

Ratamacue
07-01-2005, 12:21 AM
Thompson M1928

Rifleman
07-01-2005, 12:23 AM
Here are some of my M1's.



http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid175/pd5075a20558a59645835d35744ea1bb8/f3784c17.jpg.thumb.jpg

TacoDelRio
07-01-2005, 01:52 AM
What? No M3 Grease Gun?
nah sorry you can only have up to 8 choices on the polls

EXCUSES, EXCUSES! ;)

PTRS-41 is sweet, if a bit.....eh....hugenormous.

rob
07-01-2005, 04:26 AM
my favorite is the m1911.

as far as rifle though, the m1 is still the best.

Freibier
07-01-2005, 04:32 AM
MG42, no discussion

wiking
07-01-2005, 09:38 AM
The Enfield rifle
http://www.fmft.net/archives/no4/SMLE%20No.4.jpg


Webley Revolver
http://www.lneilsmith.com/pictures/webley.gif

The Norwegian Krag Jørgensen (M1894) Produced in amazingly high numbers (1 per 10 norwegian citizens :D)

This picture is from 1905, probably preparing for the possible Swedish invation.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/aa/Krag_J%C3%B8rgensen_1905.jpg/800px-Krag_J%C3%B8rgensen_1905.jpg

Here it is in all it's glory.
http://www.cruffler.com/NorwegianKrag.jpg

Here's a page with detail info on it
http://www.cruffler.com/historic-october01.html

Whisper_44
07-01-2005, 11:39 AM
my favorite is the m1911.

+1
http://www.worldwar1.com/dbc/gif/45whole.gif

sergey31
07-01-2005, 11:49 AM
MN 91/30 sniper
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Stuff45/mn91b.jpg

flanker7
07-01-2005, 11:56 AM
http://198.144.2.125/MG42/FULL/STG-44%201.jpg

Stg-44

Legion
07-01-2005, 12:35 PM
Not that I've shot one, but the BAR rocks.

http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/articles/14f.jpg

martinexsquaddie
07-01-2005, 02:17 PM
no4 lee enfield
the bren gun
were using them in the cadets in the 1980s MANS weapons :lol:

Falco
07-01-2005, 02:28 PM
P51 :P

Enduring Freedom
07-01-2005, 03:17 PM
M1 Garand

When I was a recruit in 1993 it was still the standard issue rifle in my unit.

I love that rifle.

CONSERVATIVE53
07-01-2005, 04:10 PM
The BAR. Our guys really loved the BAR, it would take apart trees that the Japanese were hiding in. You put an AP round in that gun and it can blow apart concrete. Never fired it but still my favorite. Plus it just looks really cool.

Werewolf01
07-01-2005, 04:13 PM
1. MP44
2. PPSH 41
3. SMLE or No4 Mk1 (I like the smelly better)
4. SVT 38/40
5. MN91/30 sniper (pref with 6x PE)
6. Garand
7. Thompson
8. K98
9. M1 Carbine
10. M1903a4

American Patriot
07-01-2005, 04:15 PM
1. Garand
2. 1918 BAR
3. MP44
4. 1919
5. M2

Para
07-01-2005, 05:24 PM
Any of you guys ever used a flame thrower, it would take out any thing, tanks, pill boxes, infantry all with one big whooooosh, what a noise.

nagant_m44
07-01-2005, 05:31 PM
pps43

Alael
07-01-2005, 05:32 PM
I find the M1 carbine the "sexiest" small weapon of WW2...

b33f
07-01-2005, 05:52 PM
Rifle: M1 Garand
Sidearm: M1911

tenda
07-01-2005, 05:59 PM
M1 Garand
German K98 Mauser

What can I say.. I am a rifle guy :D
...me too...!!!! ;)

SMGLee
07-01-2005, 08:06 PM
something about the Thompson, I have to say the Thompson as my favorite.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/Chen_Thompson.jpg
Thompson in action with a 1911 in my holster. yahhhhhh nice day to be alive.

gaijinsamurai
07-01-2005, 09:25 PM
1. Bren
2. 1928 Thompson
3. MP44
4.MP40
5. 1911A1
6. Vickers
7. 1919 Browning MG
8. M2 Browning MG
9. PPSh 41
10. BAR

Even though it didn't make my top ten list, I also love the M1 carbine. The MG42 was, and still is a great gun as well. Also, even though they were far from the best pistols of the war, I really like Lugers. I've got two in my collection: a 1916 Ehrfurt and an Artillery model (both WWI).

onefast93z28
07-02-2005, 01:06 AM
M1 Garand here, just ordered one I can't wait to shoot it!

Shadow
07-02-2005, 03:55 AM
Little Boy

wiking
07-02-2005, 04:33 AM
something about the Thompson, I have to say the Thompson as my favorite.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/Chen_Thompson.jpg
Thompson in action with a 1911 in my holster. yahhhhhh nice day to be alive.


Bastard. :fork:




Me wants p-)

gaijinsamurai
07-02-2005, 10:41 AM
I used to have an M-1 Garand, and I regret parting with it.

gaijinsamurai
07-03-2005, 09:38 AM
Why would you include the Sten as a choice for one of the top weapons on WWII? It sucked!

TuNeRsHaRk
07-03-2005, 11:42 AM
Why would you include the Sten as a choice for one of the top weapons on WWII? It sucked!

idk some people liked it i guess

OnTheRocks
07-03-2005, 12:26 PM
Type-99 pwns j00!

http://www.seek-and-destroy.de/weapons/images/type99_1.jpg

http://www.seek-and-destroy.de/weapons/images/type99_4.jpg

gaijinsamurai
07-03-2005, 03:57 PM
Yeah, regarding the Sten, I noticed that two people voted for that as their favorite weapon. I wonder why that made the list over better SMGs such as the MP40 or the PPSh-41. Their reliability was notoriously bad, and one cannot say it is an ergonomic weapon. About the only positive thing that can be said for it, I suppose, is that it was cheap and quick to produce, and relatively light and compact.

MEGR
07-03-2005, 05:12 PM
Thompson is my favorite. Wish I could fire one though.

DeltaWhisky58
07-03-2005, 05:31 PM
1. .303 Enfield No.4 Mk.1T Sniper rifle
2. .303 Enfield No.4 Mk.1 Rifle
3. .303 Bren Mk.III
4. .45 De Lisle Carbine
5. 9mm Browning P-35 Pistol
6. .32 Welrod silenced postol
7. .55 Boyes AT rifle

oldsoak
07-03-2005, 05:35 PM
Why would you include the Sten as a choice for one of the top weapons on WWII? It sucked!

The Canadian ( G*d bless 'em ) ones were better made and finished than the UK plumbers delight. The problem was with the cheap sh*t magazines. If you had a decent mag, you were laughing. German MP40 mags were definitely better made, and their MP40's didnt have the same reliability problems.

Love the Enfield, I'll still take the mp44 though. Good enough out to 200m and can go fully auto if need be.

wiking
07-03-2005, 05:37 PM
This wasn't "what was the best weapon in WW2", this is "what is YOUR favourite weapon of WW2"

I like alot of guns, as you can see in my post, but i voted for the Sten in the actual vote. There's something about it, simple, crude, slightly unreliable or over-reliable (when it locks up or accidentally discharges) and i find it over all sexy (to the extent that word can be used for a gun).

TuNeRsHaRk
07-03-2005, 06:21 PM
Yeah, regarding the Sten, I noticed that two people voted for that as their favorite weapon. I wonder why that made the list over better SMGs such as the MP40 or the PPSh-41. Their reliability was notoriously bad, and one cannot say it is an ergonomic weapon. About the only positive thing that can be said for it, I suppose, is that it was cheap and quick to produce, and relatively light and compact.

sorry guys i originally had the mp40 and the Bren gun on there as well but for some reason they didnt show up :roll:

martinexsquaddie
07-03-2005, 06:21 PM
dw the boyes why?
remember my grandad talking about shooting at a panzer with one to zero effect and then legging leaving said gun where it wAS

Laconian
07-03-2005, 06:36 PM
I voted for the Garand, but whenever I'm on the Title II range with trainees I always run the Thompson site. It is such a blast to shoot, even 60 years old or so the guns still rock. They are studley.

California Joe
07-03-2005, 10:35 PM
Got to go with the Quantico version of Springfield 1903 sniper with the bigass Unertyl scope matched to it. Something that they screwed up in Saving Private Ryan......

Sabre
07-04-2005, 07:44 AM
Bren, hands down.

http://www.arnhemarchive.org/Photos1/Pic_Bren.jpg

memphiz
07-04-2005, 04:43 PM
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2932/grad0225iw.th.jpg (http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grad0225iw.jpg)
M38

I shot this on Saturday, quite the experience

CQB_Operator
07-04-2005, 04:52 PM
http://www.dasheer.org.uk/stg44.jpg
x2

K-9s BEST
07-04-2005, 08:38 PM
Walther P-38. What a 9mm is supposed to feel like.

ranger75bn
07-05-2005, 05:41 AM
http://www.dasheer.org.uk/stg44.jpg
x2


sweet :hug:

Herrmannek
07-05-2005, 06:00 AM
I never shot historic weapons, but I would say sten wins them all... it was real Volksgeveher... it could be as reliable as any other gun around..only flaw in it was magazine with very weak lips..but if you cut prices to few dollars per piece stop whining...

btw here is video of the sweety :)

http://thehomegunsmith.com/video/StenVideo.wmv

JoaMei
07-05-2005, 07:36 AM
Bren, hands down.

http://www.arnhemarchive.org/Photos1/Pic_Bren.jpg

It was ok, but the Magazine on Top is a real drawback because the field of view in the most important area is very limited.

Werewolf01
07-05-2005, 08:02 AM
Any of you guys ever used a flame thrower, it would take out any thing, tanks, pill boxes, infantry all with one big whooooosh, what a noise.

Actually, I used to own a Flammenwerfer 41.

One_A
07-05-2005, 08:40 AM
if its not on here just post it

thought itd be intresting to see what weapons you guys favored

Me id have to go with the M1 carbine
http://avecox.free.fr/blog2/images/carbine%20M1.jpg

I voted for the MP44, and if i had been there in the European theatre, i would've tried my best to "capture" of these. Second in line would've been the M1, followed by the Thompson.

ranger75bn
07-05-2005, 12:48 PM
I never shot historic weapons, but I would say sten wins them all... it was real Volksgeveher... it could be as reliable as any other gun around..only flaw in it was magazine with very weak lips..but if you cut prices to few dollars per piece stop whining...

btw here is video of the sweety :)

http://thehomegunsmith.com/video/StenVideo.wmv


I love you man p-)

Herrmannek
07-05-2005, 01:42 PM
Its repost, but hell: here more vidoes of wwII weapons including one more of a sten
http://198.144.2.125/MG42/Machinengewehr%2042%20-%20Videos.htm

Sabre
07-05-2005, 02:43 PM
Bren, hands down.

http://www.arnhemarchive.org/Photos1/Pic_Bren.jpg

It was ok, but the Magazine on Top is a real drawback because the field of view in the most important area is very limited.

Don't care mate! It's still miles better than the support weapon that replaced it over 40 years later! We should have kept the 7.62 LMGs right up until the new LMG was purchased. LSWs really are crap support weapons, they're more suited as a section marksman weapon.

FozzieBear
07-05-2005, 02:48 PM
Bren, hands down.

http://www.arnhemarchive.org/Photos1/Pic_Bren.jpg

It was ok, but the Magazine on Top is a real drawback because the field of view in the most important area is very limited.

Don't care mate! It's still miles better than the support weapon that replaced it over 40 years later! We should have kept the 7.62 LMGs right up until the new LMG was purchased. LSWs really are crap support weapons, they're more suited as a section marksman weapon.your saying a gimpy LSW and minimi arent as good as the bren? get real

wiking
07-05-2005, 02:50 PM
Bren, hands down.

http://www.arnhemarchive.org/Photos1/Pic_Bren.jpg

It was ok, but the Magazine on Top is a real drawback because the field of view in the most important area is very limited.

Don't care mate! It's still miles better than the support weapon that replaced it over 40 years later! We should have kept the 7.62 LMGs right up until the new LMG was purchased. LSWs really are crap support weapons, they're more suited as a section marksman weapon.your saying a gimpy LSW and minimi arent as good as the bren? get real

He probably means the one that came after the Bren and before the LSW.

Note; "We should have kept the 7.62 LMGs"
i believe the Bren was in .303 enfield.

Werewolf01
07-05-2005, 03:44 PM
Bren, hands down.

http://www.arnhemarchive.org/Photos1/Pic_Bren.jpg

It was ok, but the Magazine on Top is a real drawback because the field of view in the most important area is very limited.

Don't care mate! It's still miles better than the support weapon that replaced it over 40 years later! We should have kept the 7.62 LMGs right up until the new LMG was purchased. LSWs really are crap support weapons, they're more suited as a section marksman weapon.your saying a gimpy LSW and minimi arent as good as the bren? get real

He probably means the one that came after the Bren and before the LSW.

Note; "We should have kept the 7.62 LMGs"
i believe the Bren was in .303 enfield.

There were and are 7.62 Brens. ;)

wiking
07-05-2005, 03:46 PM
Bren, hands down.

http://www.arnhemarchive.org/Photos1/Pic_Bren.jpg

It was ok, but the Magazine on Top is a real drawback because the field of view in the most important area is very limited.

Don't care mate! It's still miles better than the support weapon that replaced it over 40 years later! We should have kept the 7.62 LMGs right up until the new LMG was purchased. LSWs really are crap support weapons, they're more suited as a section marksman weapon.your saying a gimpy LSW and minimi arent as good as the bren? get real

He probably means the one that came after the Bren and before the LSW.

Note; "We should have kept the 7.62 LMGs"
i believe the Bren was in .303 enfield.

There were and are 7.62 Brens. ;)

Ok, live and learn, isn't that what they say.

Sabre
07-05-2005, 03:49 PM
GPMGs came into service in the late fifties/sixties. They were used as section weapons, but were not LMGs.

The 'LMG' of the post war years (up to the first gulf) was the 7.62mm L4 Bren. It served alongside the GPMG and bridged the gap wetween that and the SLR.

It was replaced in the late 80's by the L86A1 'LSW' of the SA80 series (Small Arms for the 1980s programme). Now the LSW is accurate, but it shared the faults of the L85A1 and had limited support capability. It was almost 'too accurate' and had a very small beaten zone (compared to an L4 or a minimi), slow rate of fire (compared to a minimi) and the 5.56 round wasn't as effective at longer ranges as the 7.62 L4.

I believe the Irish Defence Forces still use the Bren LMG.

Sten3
07-05-2005, 06:09 PM
M1 C
FG 42
PPD 40
Thompson
Lee-Enfield MKII
K 43
MG 3

One_A
07-06-2005, 08:49 AM
I was watching Saving Private Ryan last week and noticed that Tom Hanks' character was carrying a Thompson, Tom Sizemore's character a M1 Carbine and rest of the squad, M1 Garands and BARs (with exception to the DM who had the M1903). Was this a typical configuration for the infantry squad of the time?

hammerlock
07-06-2005, 11:10 AM
way too many US small arms on your list. where are the MG-42's, Lee Enfields, PPSH-41's and so forth.

This the list as i see it.

1- MG-42 best GPMG ever.
2- lee Enfield #4, best bolt action ever designed
3 -M-1 garend
4- Bern.. and no the top loading mag does not get inthe way of fields of fires and the top loading mag allowed it to get low to ground. always a good point.
5- PSSH-41 way more power than the 9mm
6- MP-40
7- Polish BAR,
8-Mp_43/44

TuNeRsHaRk
07-06-2005, 12:09 PM
I was watching Saving Private Ryan last week and noticed that Tom Hanks' character was carrying a Thompson, Tom Sizemore's character a M1 Carbine and rest of the squad, M1 Garands and BARs (with exception to the DM who had the M1903). Was this a typical configuration for the infantry squad of the time?

most standard infantry was issued the garand but certain people were given the M1 carbine, Thompson, BAR but then on the other hand they were rangers in that movie

wiking
07-06-2005, 12:14 PM
The thompson might have been isued to the rangers and units like the airborne, but they were not issued to regular infantry units. Think that's what i read somewhere, thompsons were expensive and there wasn't THAT many of them, reg. inf. carried Carbines where paratroopers f. ex. carries Thompsons.

But these huys were rangers, but i still think the sniper was misplaced, snipers were in little use by the US.

Herrmannek
07-06-2005, 12:19 PM
What about popularity of grease guns, AFAIK they were USA response to brit. stens...

wiking
07-06-2005, 12:33 PM
I think SMG's weren't issued at all to the regular infantry NCOs and officers, armored, airborne, mechanized perhaps, rangers, marines but not regular infantry, but i guess there are people who know this stuff better than me.

Herrmannek
07-06-2005, 01:14 PM
I can't belive SMGs weren't issued to USA regulars... In both german and russians armies SMGs amount raised and outnumbered rifles quite quickly in units where resourced alowed ... I can't imagine effective trench, closed quaters cleaning with garand rifle at all.

wiking
07-06-2005, 01:23 PM
I can't belive SMGs weren't issued to USA regulars... In both german and russians armies SMGs amount raised and outnumbered rifles quite quickly in units where resourced alowed ... I can't imagine effective trench, closed quaters cleaning with garand rifle at all.

There is precedence for it, the German infantry tactics was were based around the MG. The MG was the main weapon, and the remaining infantry of the squad was there to provide assistance to the MG.


But the US army based it's tactics around the individual rifleman, and MG's and the squad automatic weapon, the BAR (i wont call that a LMG) was there to provide assistance to the rifleman.

The Germans did not realize the full potential of the SMG's untill the extensive urban fighting in Stalingrad proved the rifle to large and slow.

And outside of such special situations as urban combat in stalingrad, i believe you would be hard pressed to find more SMG than rifles in an infantry unit in any army.

But i presume there are people who know this stuff better than me, so could we hear from someone? I won't guarantee i'm right on this.

Abolith
07-06-2005, 07:08 PM
I gotta say the M1 Carbine, mostly because it was the one my grandfather used in the PTO, and it saw combat, though it wasn't something he would talk about.

CONSERVATIVE53
07-06-2005, 07:29 PM
I have shot the m1 garand and m1 carbine. Obviously, the garand is heavier but packs a bigger punch, but the m1 carbine is lighter. I also fired a browning .30 which is a great gun. Next time I go I hope to get on the Walthers. But my favorite is the BAR.

gaijinsamurai
07-07-2005, 10:20 AM
I love the BAR too; I just wish it had a removable barrel and higher than 20 rd magazine capacity. For that reason, I favor the Bren and MG42.

FozzieBear
07-07-2005, 11:25 AM
I love the BAR too; I just wish it had a removable barrel and higher than 20 rd magazine capacity. For that reason, I favor the Bren and MG42. yeah the BAR would have been great with a 40rd mag and a changeable barrel... a true light support weapon

CONSERVATIVE53
07-07-2005, 11:53 AM
I love the BAR too; I just wish it had a removable barrel and higher than 20 rd magazine capacity. For that reason, I favor the Bren and MG42. yeah the BAR would have been great with a 40rd mag and a changeable barrel... a true light support weapon

I think they tried that but it made the gun over heat. Plus it would be pretty heavy with 20 extra rounds.

hammerlock
07-07-2005, 12:09 PM
gaijinsamurai wrote:

I love the BAR too; I just wish it had a removable barrel and higher than 20 rd magazine capacity. For that reason, I favor the Bren and MG42.

yeah the BAR would have been great with a 40rd mag and a changeable barrel... a true light support weapon


yeah with those changes it would be almost a Bren, only was Bren benefited from new production medthods and was cheaper to produce. So my not save the time and just go for the Bren. And with full rifle rounds there is just no way to get a 40 rd mag.. they would be way too heavy and too long to be useful.

coughybean
07-07-2005, 08:52 PM
MN 91/30 sniper
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Stuff45/mn91b.jpg
x2


I also like the PPSh. They're neat.

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3691/ppsh4mz.jpg


http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1729/ppshfence1di.jpg

thecheeto
07-12-2005, 03:06 PM
My personal fave is my MN 91/30 made at the Tula arsenal in 1937, but I have agree the PPSH should rank high, also maybe the DP.

Para
07-14-2005, 12:46 PM
The Bren gun was a fine weapon but it would have been even better had it been belt fed. Lugging around those magazines was a pain in the rear, then if you got really busy you had to try and refill them as you went. I always found it was far easier to carry a belt of ammunition rather than a large box of magazines.

Violet Fashion by Mindy
07-14-2005, 09:56 PM
Owen sub machinegun this thing phucking pwned.

http://www.awm.gov.au/underattack/images/enlarge/RELAWM30622.010.jpg

Australian designed and built. Was still in small use up until the mid 70's