Today's Pic's. - Jan. 6

[He219]

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Iranian soldiers load a truck with Turkish aid from a Turkish Air Force cargo plane at the airport near the earthquake-ravaged city of Bam, southern Iran, on Monday, Jan. 5, 2004. The quake on Dec. 26, 2003 killed over 30,000 people. (AP Photo/Burhan Ozbilici)

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Two Iranian police officers patrol in the Iranian city of Bam, where last month a massive earthquake hit, about 1,000 kilometers ( 630 miles ) southeast of the capital Tehran, Iran, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. The quake on Dec. 26, 2003 killed about 35,000 people, and injured many thousands more. (AP Photo/Vahid Salemi)

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U.S. Army Sgt. Ervin D. Willis, from Chicago Illinois, cheers with Iraqi children during a 'face to face' operation in Ah-marisha village, near Tikrit, Iraq, Sunday, Jan. 4, 2003. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

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A U.S. Army soldier pulling security during a 'face to face' operation in Ah-marisha village, near Tikrit, Iraq, Sunday, Jan. 4, 2003. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

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U.S. Army Spc. Shauna Northington, from Alpha 4th Forward Support Battalion, smiles as she talks to an Iraqi woman, in Tikrit, Iraq, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

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U.S. Army snipers of the 1-22 Infantry division (Task Force Iron Horse) sit on their humvee as they leave their military base in Tikrit , Iraq, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

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US soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 22nd Regiment of the 4th Infantry Division wait to leave their base in Tikrit, 180 Kilometers (110 miles) north of Baghdad, 06 January 2004. The US Army pledged to pull down a symbolic barbed wire fence around Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s birthplace in a move aimed at easing tensions with Iraqis as the White House reaffirmed its commitment to Iraq (news - web sites)'s territorial integrity after a transfer of power scheduled for June.(AFP/Jewel Samad)

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A U.S. Army soldier stands guard near a sign reading in Arabic, 'we compliment our army on its 83rd anniversary', during Iraq (news - web sites)'s Army Day holiday in the capital Baghdad, January 6, 2004. *******/Akram Saleh

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An Iraqi Civil Defense soldier stands guard at a checkpoint in central Baghdad Tuesday, Jan. 6 2004. The 14th Ramadan Mosque is seen in the background. (AP Photo/Hadi Mizban)

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British troops try to restore order after a demonstration by some 5,000 former members of the Iraqi military turned violent in the city of Basra, some 550 kilometers south of Baghdad, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. (AP Photo/Nabil Aljurani)

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Iraqi police drives past protesters after a demonstration of some 5,000 former members of the Iraqi military turned violent in the city of Basra, some 550 kilometers south of Baghdad, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. (AP Photo/Nabil Aljurani)

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Mowaffak Al-Rubaie, member of the Iraqi governing council, watches as U.S. military officers salute during the graduation ceremony for the 2nd Battalion of the Iraqi Army Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004 in Taji, Iraq (news - web sites). Seven hundred and five recruits graduated Tuesday and will help the U.S. military conduct operations in and around Baghdad. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)


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Iraqi governing council president Adnan Pachachi, right, greets Iraqi soldiers of the 2nd Battalion after their graduation ceremony Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004 in Taji, Iraq (news - web sites). Seven hundred and five recruits graduated Tuesday after more than two months of training and will help the U.S. military conduct operations in and around Baghdad. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)

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After participating in their graduation ceremony, Iraqi army soldiers of the second battalion dance on the edge of the parade grounds to celebrate Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004 in Taji, Iraq (news - web sites). Seven hundred and five recruits graduated Tuesday and will help the U.S. military conduct operations in and around Baghdad. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)

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Bicycles litter the street near the site of a powerful explosion in the southern Afghan city of Kandahar January 6, 2004. The explosion occurred close to a military base, killing at least 12 people and wounding 45, many of them school children. *******/Stringer

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Government soldiers search passengers of cars outside Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan, on Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004, looking for suspected Talibans. (AP Photo/Amir Shah)

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U.S. Army soldiers on a military truck patrol streets in Wardak province, 50 kilometers west of Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan, on Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. ( AP Photo/Amir Shah)

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A German soldier removes an American flag after U.S. soldiers transferred authority of Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT) to North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)-led German troops at the PRT headquarters in Konduz, Afghanistan, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. The German-led PRT in Konduz is the first in Afghanistan to operate under NATO control. (AP Photo/Aijaz Rahi)

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French naval personnel, right, gather with their Egyptian counterparts as they lower a boat into the water at the crash scene of an Egyptian charter airplane in the Red Sea resort city of Sharm el-Sheik, Egypt, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. The French navy sent divers and personnel to assist Egyptian authorities in their search for the airplane's black box. The charter airplane crashed into the sea early Saturday, killing all 148 people on board. Most of the passengers were French tourists. (AP Photo/Kevin Frayer)

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Syrian President Bashar Assad, center, thanks a Turkish army officer at the end of a ceremony at the mausoleum of the founder of the modern secular, Turkish state Kemal Ataturk in Ankara on Tuesday , Jan. 6, 2004. Assad arrived here Tuesday on the first ever visit to Turkey by a Syrian head of state, hoping to further improve ties when his country is increasingly isolated by the United States over its alleged support of terrorism. (AP Photo/Burhan Ozbilici)

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Shortly after an Israeli troop pullout, a Palestinian woman cries as she and others walk through the rubble of homes destroyed and damaged by army forces during a search operation inside the old city of the West Bank town of Nablus, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. The army withdrew before dawn from positions it had held here during the three-week operation, however the army said that the operation was ongoing and this was merely a redeployment of troops. During the three-week sweep 12 Palestinians were killed and witnesses, able to survey the aftermath for the first time, said that troops had left behind wide-scale destruction. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

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(January 4, 2003), IDF forces uncovered two tunnels along the Israeli-Egyptian border, near the Kerem-Shalom Crossing. The first tunnel, 9 meters underground, was discovered in the center of a road used for the passage of IDF vehicles.

Related Video: IDF Forces Uncover Two Tunnels in Rafah (http://www.idf.il/newsite/movies/23_12_03_Tunnels_eng.wmv)



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A Chinese policeman confiscates civet cats at a train station in Guangzhou, the capital of China's southern province of Guangdong, January 6, 2004, a day after China confirmed its first new SARS case in months. Local authorities are searching wild animal markets and train stations in Guangdong Province after they were given a Saturday deadline to kill about 10,000 civets to eliminate a possible source of the disease. *******/China Photo

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A dog sits in a cage destined for the dinner table in Xin Yuan wild animal market in the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou. Following a confirmed SARS (news - web sites) case in Guangzhou, the government has ordered that all masked palm civets, which are eaten here as a delicacy, be destroyed as a precaution against SARS after the virus was found in to be present in them but despite this all other 'exotic' animals are still being kept and slaughtered for food.(AFP/Peter Parks )

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A ferel cat destined for the dinner table is picked up in Xin Yuan wild animal market in the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou. Following a confirmed SARS (news - web sites) case in Guangzhou, the government has ordered that all masked palm civets, which are eaten here as a delicacy, be destroyed as a precaution against SARS after the virus was found in to be present in them.(AFP/Peter Parks )

[mustamato]

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Two Iranian police officers patrol in the Iranian city of Bam, where last month a massive earthquake hit, about 1,000 kilometers ( 630 miles ) southeast of the capital Tehran, Iran, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. The quake on Dec. 26, 2003 killed about 35,000 people, and injured many thousands more. (AP Photo/Vahid Salemi)

Looks more like two soldiers that got guard duty to me. Soldier on the right has a chinese Type 56-2 assault rifle as well. Didn´t know that the Iranians bought small arms from China. But now I know :)

[He219]

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Kunduz Gov. Amir Latif, left, hands over a certificate to outgoing U.S. Army Capt. Renee Collingwood, right, as Lt. Gen. David Barno, commander of Coalition military forces in Afghanistan, Lt. Gen. Gotz Gliemeroth, commander of the NATO mission to Afghanistan and Brig. Gen. Bernd Hogrefe, sitting in row from far left look on during a function to transfer authority of Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT) to NATO-led German troops at the PRT headquarters in Kunduz, Afghanistan, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. TheGerman-led PRT in Kunduz is the first in Afghanistan to operate under NATO control. (AP Photo/Aijaz Rahi)

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Maj. Gen. David H. Petraeus, 101st Airborne Division Commander, and Governor of Mosul Ghanim al-Basso cut the cake during a ceremony to mark Iraqi Army Day in Mosul Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

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Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez watches the graduating class of the Iraqi Army 2nd Battalion march by at the end of its graduation ceremony Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004 in Taji, Iraq. Seven hundred and five recruits graduated Tuesday and will help the U.S. military conduct operations in and around Baghdad. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)

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Two officers from India, left, and Pakistan, right, shake hands as Indian and Pakistani border forces look on after the beating the retreat ceremony in Hussaini border point in India, Dec. 22, 2003. The leaders of India and Pakistan discussed ways to resolve the poisonous dispute over Kashmir during their historic meeting on the sidelines of a South Asian summit, Pakistani officials said Tuesday Jan. 6, 2004, predicting a breakthrough inrelations between the long-hostile, nuclear-armed neighbors. (AP Photo/Elizabeth Dalziel)

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Indian soldiers, left and Pakistani soldiers take part in the beating retreat ceremony as they march past each other at the only direct open border between the two nations in Wagah, Dec. 21, 2003. The leaders of India and Pakistan discussed ways to resolve the poisonous dispute over Kashmir during their historic meeting on the sidelines of a South Asian summit, Pakistani officials said Tuesday Jan. 6, 2004, predicting a breakthrough in relations between the long-hostile, nuclear-armed neighbors. (AP Photo/Elizabeth Dalziel)

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Indian soldiers take part in the beating retreat on the Indian Pakistan border at Hussaini border crossing, not an operating crossing between the two nations in Hussaini border point in India Monday Dec. 22, 2003.

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Pakistani soldiers march toward the Indian border gate during the beating retreat ceremony at the only operating direct link between the two nations in Wagah, India Dec. 21, 2003.

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Indian soldiers clear the Delhi-Lahore bus, as it crossed from India in to Pakistan at the only direct open border between the two nations at the Wagah border in India Dec. 20, 2003. The leaders of India and Pakistan discussed ways to resolve the poisonous dispute over Kashmir during their historic meeting on the sidelines of a South Asian summit, Pakistani officials said Tuesday Jan. 6, 2004, predicting a breakthrough in relations between the long-hostile, nuclear-armed neighbors. (AP Photo/Elizabeth Dalziel)

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Presidents Ahmet Necdet Sezer of Turkey, right, and his Syrian counterpart Bashar Assad review a Turkish honour guard during a ceremony for Assad at the Cankaya palace under heavy snowfall that blanketed the Turkish capital, Ankara on Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. Assad began the first-ever visit to Turkey by a Syrian head of state Tuesday, hoping to further improve ties as his country is increasingly isolated by the United States over its alleged support of terrorism. (AP Photo/Burhan Ozbilici)

[Uncle Chô]

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They are kids !

They look amazingly young and innocent despite their military gears...

It seems the Army desperately needs more personal in Iraq :|

[Dalleer]

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Honestly, what sort of people eat cats and dogs?

I mean, come on....

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And that's one wicked looking beard(or should we call it a moustache/beard ?!) the guy has there.

[Javehn]

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They are kids !

They look amazingly young and innocent despite their military gears...

It seems the Army desperately needs more personal in Iraq :|

Just 18 years old guys , what you expect them to be .

IDF Forces Uncover Two Tunnels in Rafah (http://www.idf.il/newsite/movies/23_12_03_Tunnels_eng.wmv) - Nice , man . I put this movie here one day , but without the translation . Nice that you find it .

To Daleer - look at the right guy eyes . That's what i called mad eyes .

[He219]

Remember the Dhow the US and Aussie Navies captured with the narcotics?

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See 'ya!

North Arabian Sea (Jan. 4, 2004) -- U.S. Navy and Marine Corps Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel destroy a captured dhow after a successful interception mission by ships from Expeditionary Strike Group One (ESG-1) on January 1, 2004. The stateless vessel’s 15 crewmembers and 2,800 pounds of hashish, worth approximately $11 million street value, were intercepted and detained as part the ESG’s continuing support to expanded maritime interception operations (MIO) and the global war on terrorism. ESG 1’s interception was the third in two weeks by coalition maritime forces in the region. USS Decatur (DDG 73) detained a dhow and its 12 crewmembers and seized upward of $10 million in hashish Dec. 15; USS Philippine Sea (CG 58) detained two dhows and their 21 crewmembers and seized 85 pounds of heroin and 150 pounds of methamphetamines Dec. 20. Of the total 33 crewmembers originally detained in the first two interceptions, 10 have been transferred to a secret, undisclosed facility for further questioning by U.S. officials. They were transferred after initial interrogations revealed possible al Qaeda connections. The remaining 23 crewmembers were turned over to officials of a country in the region. The detainees from the Jan. 1 seizure remain with U.S. officials aboard U.S. warships in the region for further questioning. Of the previously seized dhows, one was sunk by coalition maritime forces due its lack of seaworthiness, and two others were turned over to other countries in the region. With the exception of small amounts kept as evidence and for analysis, all contraband has been destroyed. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate Airman Jeffrey Klemm. (RELEASED)

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Afghan soldier walks past the bombing site in Kandahar, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. A bomb attached to a bicycle killed at least 10 people, most of them children, in the southern city of Kandahar on Tuesday, underlining the violence still plaguing Afghanistan two years after the fall of the Taliban. (AP Photo/Noor Khan)

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Afghan boy Saami Khan, recuperates in a hosptal after he was injured by a bomb while playing in the streets in Kandahar, Afghanistan, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. A bomb attached to a bicycle killed at least 10 people, most of them children, in Kandahar Tuesday, underlining the violence still plaguing Afghanistn two years after the fall of the Taliban. (AP Photo/Noor Khan)

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Palestinian gunmen from the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, a militia linked to Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement, shoot in the air during an anti-Israeli demonstration in the West Bank town of Jenin Tuesday Jan. 6, 2004.(AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)


Ledgend of the Seas ....

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Naval Air Station North Island, Calif. (Jan 5, 2004) -- Tugboats tow the decommissioned aircraft carrier USS Midway (http://www.midway.org/) into the San Diego bay. Midway will be moored temporarily at Naval Air Station North Island to take-on restored historical aircraft and will soon be home ported across the bay in San Diego, as the center piece for our nation's biggest museum devoted to carriers and naval aviation. Launched on September 10, 1945 the USS Midway (CVA-41) was the largest carrier ever put to sea. For nearly 50 years she saw action in every major U.S. conflict to include military action in Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 1st Class David Levy. (RELEASED)

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The USS Midway was at the dawn of naval missile warfare when a captured German V-2 rocket was test-fired from her deck, a few years after the close of World War II. The test off the East Coast was successful,
demonstrating that major ship remodeling was not necessary to accommodate missile warfare.

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In 1951, the USS Midway's first-ever stern launches occurred (by two TBM Avengers) to accommodate the departure of the then-Secretary of the Navy, Francis P. Matthews.

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The USS Midway's career was not without mishaps. In 1980, a Panamian freighter, the "Cactus," ran into her in the Palawan Straits near the Philippines.

[OnTheRocks]

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They are kids !

They look amazingly young and innocent despite their military gears...

It seems the Army desperately needs more personal in Iraq :|

Just 18 years old guys , what you expect them to be .

IDF Forces Uncover Two Tunnels in Rafah (http://www.idf.il/newsite/movies/23_12_03_Tunnels_eng.wmv) - Nice , man . I put this movie here one day , but without the translation . Nice that you find it .

To Daleer - look at the right guy eyes . That's what i called mad eyes .

I would expect them to be at home :roll:

[Jack Mehoff]

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They are kids !

They look amazingly young and innocent despite their military gears...

It seems the Army desperately needs more personal in Iraq :|

Just 18 years old guys , what you expect them to be .

IDF Forces Uncover Two Tunnels in Rafah (http://www.idf.il/newsite/movies/23_12_03_Tunnels_eng.wmv) - Nice , man . I put this movie here one day , but without the translation . Nice that you find it .

To Daleer - look at the right guy eyes . That's what i called mad eyes .

I would expect them to be at home :roll:

Unlike your military, those 'kids' are VOLUNTEER. They would have stay home if they want to but they VOLUNTEER.

[AVZ]

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What's the weapon of the right guy. Which scope does he use???

[HumanShield]

looks like they all have the new m16a3. The one on the right looks as though it is a AIMPOINT reddot

[kinghk]

Unlike your military, those 'kids' are VOLUNTEER. They would have stay home if they want to but they VOLUNTEER.

Although sweden has a conscript army, they will not draft you if you really dont want to. The annual need of fresh conscripts is far less than the amount of men in the right age.

Anyway, Sweden can not send regular conscripts abroad.

[Minjin]

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GREAT pic. Very nice.

[fokket]

the scope is TA31 NOT Aimpoint

[Dalleer]

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To Daleer - look at the right guy eyes . That's what i called mad eyes .

Yep, the guy on the right mut have seen the Indian prime minister naked or something...

[He219]

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AFGHAN TERRAIN — A soldier from the 2nd Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment of the 10th Mountain Division ground guides a High Mobility Multiwheeled Vehicle over rocks that were placed in a hole on a road in order to make it passable for military traffic on the way to Tangay in the Daychopan region of Afghanistan, Dec. 21, 2003. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Horace Murray

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Afghan soldier, carrying a machine gun, points towards the bombing scene in Kandahar, Afghanistan Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. A bomb attached to a bicycle killed at least 10 people, most of them children, in the southern city of Kandahar on Tuesday, underlining the violence still plaguing Afghanistan two years after the fall of the Taliban. (AP Photo/Noor Khan)

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U.S. soldiers walk near the bombing scene in Kandahar, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004. A bomb attached to a bicycle killed at least 10 people, most of them children, in the southern city of Kandahar on Tuesday, underlining the violence still plaguing Afghanistan two years after the fall of the Taliban. (AP Photo/Noor Khan)

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A French Atlantique plane, which has advanced sensor equipment that can locate the crashed plane, flies over a rescue boat at the site of a plane crash off the coast of Sharm el-Shiekh, Egypt, Tuesday, Jan.6, 2004. A charter jet carrying 148 people - mostly French tourists - crashed on Jan. 3 into the Red Sea shortly after taking off. (AP Photo/Amr Nabil)

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US commander Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez watches soldiers of the new Iraqi army's 2nd Batallion march during their graduation ceremony at their base in Taji, northwest of Baghdad, 06 January 2004.(AFP/Ahmad Al-Rubaye)

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Soldiers of the new Iraqi army's 2nd Batallion perform a celebratory dance after their graduation ceremony at their base in Taji, northwest of Baghdad.(AFP/Ahmad Al-Rubaye)

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An Iraqi soldier from Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s dissolved army holds up a placard during a demonstration in the southern Iraqi city of Basra. Iraqi army veterans fought with Iraqi police in Basra when a 400-man protest for unpaid salaries turned violent, witnesses told AFP.(AFP/Hani Al-Obeidi)

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A US Marine mans an anti-aricraft Stinger missile. The Homeland Security Department announced three companies to develop and test equipment to protect civilian airliners from missile attacks from weapons like the Stinger(AFP-USMC/File)

[Operation Ivy]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=510832

That one guy has a garand woot

[Loco]

Honestly, what sort of people eat cats and dogs?

I mean, come on....

It´s said a cat well cooked is delicious, similiar to hares. Ruperto de Nola wrote a famous recipe´s book in the XV century, and it has some cat´s recipes. About dogs I haven´t any opinion, but I think a mastiff´s thigh must be juicy, and a little fried caniche must have the test of quails. In matters of gastronomy I trust in chinese, they are masters and the rest of us only new rich barbarians trying to be good pupils of them. BTW, a good soldier must be ready for eating anything, in fact, bests soldiers usually are those who can resist most time without eating. One day I have to eat a cat, may be a persian cat, sure they have a soft meat.

[Jack Mehoff]

People with different culture. The world is a better place if people stop being ethnocentric.




Honestly, what sort of people eat cats and dogs?

I mean, come on....

[Roger Rabbit]

The guy firing and the guy in the green jacket behind him don't appear to be of Arabic origin. I might just be totally ignorant here. Anyone got any opinions?

[Whistler]

I dunno, I could never eat a cat.

If I were stuck on an island with a Chinese guy and a cat, I'd actually probably eat the guy before I ate the cat rofl .

[Dalleer]

It´s said a cat well cooked is delicious, similiar to hares. Ruperto de Nola wrote a famous recipe´s book in the XV century, and it has some cat´s recipes. About dogs I haven´t any opinion, but I think a mastiff´s thigh must be juicy, and a little fried caniche must have the test of quails. In matters of gastronomy I trust in chinese, they are masters and the rest of us only new rich barbarians trying to be good pupils of them. BTW, a good soldier must be ready for eating anything, in fact, bests soldiers usually are those who can resist most time without eating. One day I have to eat a cat, may be a persian cat, sure they have a soft meat.

Let's see now, you must have a delicious sheep-dog stew boiling in the pot as we speak?

I have to disagree on this matter, but as said if it's their custom then so be it, it's just that I'd never eat dogs or cats mainly due to hygiene reasons.

The Chinese must leave the cows and pigs alone then?




People with different culture. The world is a better place if people stop being ethnocentric.

Undoubtedly, however my ethical and moral reasons do go well above this sort of "behaviour".

[Jack Mehoff]

The Hindu thought the same about you when you have that beef on your dish. I was this ignorance and ethnocentric until i spent a year on my LDS mission oversea. I don't care if you like or don't like to eat dogs and cats, but don't look down on other people because their cultures are different.

Undoubtedly, however my ethical and moral reasons do go well above this sort of "behaviour".

[IDFM203]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040106/capt.sge.tqg83.060104184605.photo00.default-378x290.jpg

A US Marine mans an anti-aricraft Stinger missile. The Homeland Security Department announced three companies to develop and test equipment to protect civilian airliners from missile attacks from weapons like the Stinger(AFP-USMC/File) Its about time :D ...since the almost downing of that Israeli plane in Kenya, Israeli companies have already developed two different (competing) systems that is on it’s planes now (or perhaps it was already on that Kenya flight ;) )

The first one is called flight Guard and it is devolved by Israel Aircraft Industries' (IAI) Elta Systems

http://www.janes.com/regional_news/africa_middle_east/news/jar/jar030516_1_p.jpg

Flight Guard comprises two main components: Elta's autonomous radar system, which detects the launch of surface-to-air missiles, and IMI's countermeasures dispensing system, which jams and diverts heat-seeking missiles. The Elta radar is based on similar systems that protect military aircraft. "The system is designed for the maximum safety required for operation in a civilian environment," said Israel Livnat, general manager of Elta Systems. "The flares are intended to burn for a very short time to avoid any damage even if discharged in low altitude."

Then second one is a Israeli system that’s made by the Israeli company Rafael and theirs is called BRITENING (http://www.rafael.co.il/web/rafnew/products/air-britening.htm)
http://www.rafael.co.il/web/rafnew/images/britening.jpg

BRITENING is a comprehensive electro-optic self defence suite designed specifically for commercial and transport aircraft. BRITENING protects the aircraft against a wide variety of missile threats. The system integrates passive missile warning sensors - Guitar-350 and the JAM-AIR directional infra-red countermeasure system. The system is controlled by the integral System Processing Unit (SPU). BRITENING is fully automatic. The countermeasures are self activated by the SPU upon the detection of a threat, and directs the countermeasures toward the threat until its neutralization.


For more on both click a article in Janes (http://www.janes.com/aerospace/civil/news/jar/jar030516_1_n.shtml)

or click here for a more comprehensive article (http://www.awgnet.com/shownews/03paris/hard16.htm)

Shalom :D

[Dalleer]

I don't care if you like or don't like to eat dogs and cats, but don't look down on other people because their cultures are different.

I do not look down on the Chinese despite their rather questionable choices of food nor do I look down on any other people for that matter.

However, you have to ask yourself when seeing stuff like this if cats and dogs are really "meant" to be eaten ?

Then again, maybe there are people in this world that have decided that any animal with meat in it is good enough for their dinner table.

[Loco]

It´s nice listening the USS Midway will become a museum. That carrier saw a lot of history. Does anyone know if there is any of the big carriers of IIWW in any museum?
In the case of Spain, USA sold us the USS Cabot, one of those light carriers who fought all the Pacific campaign, and it was used in Spain as the portahelicópteros(helo-carrier) "Dedalo", although near the end of its service it was used for testing the Harriers as a naval aircraft, and the test was succesful, so the Dedalo was the first carrier in operating Harriers. After serving in spanish navy, here some people tried to use this light carrier as a museum, but in Spain we hadn´t enough budget for that, so it was sent again to USA for being scraped around 1989. I read in USA a group of former crewmen of USS Cabot tried to make a museum in the ship, but they couldn´t get enough money. It´s a pity, this carrier was living history, it was the only remaining light carrier of IIWW, and because of the battles this carrier fought in Pacific, even being beaten by a kamikaze, and the fact this ship linked the early age of carriers with the new age of stol jets, this ship would deserve a better end.
http://www.usscabot.com/photogallery/wargallery/lonetbm.jpg
http://www.mcallen.lib.tx.us/books/cabot/capho92.jpg

http://www.usscabot.com/

[He219]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040106/capt.gox10101060230.midway_museum_gox101.jpg

The USS Midway is silhouetted against the lights of downtown San Diego as tugboats pull the ship to Navy Pier in San Diego Bay Monday, Jan. 5, 2004. The ship's arrival from the San Francisco Bay was delayed by bad weather and later engine problems in one of the tugboats. The carrier will become a floating naval museum in downtown San Diego. (AP Photo/Denis Poroy)


The Midway will be the nation's fifth and largest aircraft carrier museum. The others are the Intrepid in New York; the Yorktown in Mount Pleasant, S.C.; the Lexington in Corpus Christi, Texas; and the Hornet in Alameda, Calif.

Museum backers raised $8 million and spent more than a decade clearing regulatory hurdles to get the Midway out of mothballs.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040106/ap_on_re_us/midway_museum_3

[Loco]

I dunno, I could never eat a cat.

If I were stuck on an island with a Chinese guy and a cat, I'd actually probably eat the guy before I ate the cat rofl .
If the chinese is fatty, may be. Any way, if the chinese guy is hungry, I wouldn´t sleep quiet if I were you. p-)
I´ve eaten a lot of fishes, shell-fish and vegetables, I don´t know if they are strange food for you. About meat, the only animal I ate perhaps you wouldn´t eat is donkey meat, prepared like a ham of pork, salted and crude.

[Fioraon]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=510607

They are kids !

They look amazingly young and innocent despite their military gears...

It seems the Army desperately needs more personal in Iraq :|

The Military starts recruiting at age 17; young in years, old at heart. Age doesn't make you less able unless you are to old where your body starts to slow down. Obviously you added a negative conitation to the word kids, well the military doesn't see it that way. These 'kids' made the Times person of the year. These 'kids' are protecting our world and changing the world for the Iraqi's. These 'kids' earn more respect then that.

[Rush_die]

nice post as usual!!!

woot

[Mr. Nielsen]

The Military starts recruiting at age 17; young in years, old at heart. Age doesn't make you less able unless you are to old where your body starts to slow down.

Can they be deployed before they are 18?
How long takes basic training?

[[AFSOC]]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040106/capt.sge.tmo05.060104125718.photo00.default-283x384.jpg

Honestly, what sort of people eat cats and dogs?

I mean, come on....



WOW who the hell are you to judge on other people's cultures you ignorant ****. What right do you have?? I guess you eat everything thats normal right??

Cuz you Fins are perfect of coarse...

[ibstolidude]

The Military starts recruiting at age 17; young in years, old at heart. Age doesn't make you less able unless you are to old where your body starts to slow down.

Can they be deployed before they are 18?
How long takes basic training?Yes in fact they can, depending on their particular skill and branch of service.

I joined way back at 17 with a waiver from a parent.

[Vance]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040106/capt.sge.tmo05.060104125718.photo00.default-283x384.jpg

Honestly, what sort of people eat cats and dogs?

I mean, come on....

:roll:

I'm pretty sure the Indians think you're a damn fool for eating the thing that they worship.

[Dalleer]

WOW who the hell are you to judge on other people's cultures you ignorant ****. What right do you have?? I guess you eat everything thats normal right??

"Ignorant ****", how interesting...

You seem to take this matter on a rather personal level when insulting me on a such crude manner.

However, if you would have bothered to read my responses following that post some things would have possibly cleared up to you concerning the matter.



Cuz you Fins are perfect of coarse...

Well, I do find your personal view of my country very uplifting, I truly do. However nothing is perfect, and I have never said otherwise making your little bitching attempt very much irrelevant.

Also, it is "Finns" not "Fins".

I must say that this particular discussion just took a creditability dive with this M14's "comments" of rather lame and crude manner.

I wonder, what "right" do you have to call me an "ignorant ****" yourself then?

And please, state your age the next time you reply to this since I would be very much interested of hearing the age of a person who can sink this low without no real reason.

[He219]

Don't sweat it, Dalleer! To each his own.
:D

We usually find ourselves on the receiving end of those kinds of comments ...
;)

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Arabian Gulf (Dec. 26, 2003) -- A Japanese helicopter assigned to the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) destroyer JDS Akebono (DD 108) observes an underway replenishment between the guided missile destroyer USS Decatur (DDG-73) and the Japanese supply ship Towada. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 2nd Class Jeffrey Lehrberg. (RELEASED)

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Manama, Bahrain (Dec. 19, 2003) -- Actor/comedian Robin Williams performs for the audience at an all-hands gathering aboard Naval Support Activity Bahrain. Williams was in Bahrain with Gen. Richard B. Myers, Chairman, Joint Chief of Staff, who was hosting a United Service Organization (USO) show, which also featured World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) wrestler Kurt Angle and NASCAR driver Mike Wallace. U.S. Navy photo by Journalist 1st Class Dennis J. Herring. (RELEASED)

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Manama, Bahrain (Jan. 4, 2003) -- Vice Adm. David C. Nichols, Jr., Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command/Commander, 5th Fleet and U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Robert B. Flowers, Chief of Engineers/ Commanding Gen. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, cut the ribbon at the ceremony marking the opening of Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command (COMUSNAVCENT) new headquarters. The new building is part of a $25 million project designed to support regional command and security requirements. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 1st Class Shane Wallenda. (RELEASED)

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Arabian Gulf (Jan. 4, 2004) -- Air Officer or Air Boss Cdr. Brian J. Broene from Virginia Beach, Va., supervise flight operations with the Assistant Air Officer or Mini Boss Cdr. Mark S. Kinnane, also from Virginia Beach, Va., from the Primary Flight Control (PRI-FLY) tower aboard USS Enterprise (CVN 65). Situated approximately 7 stories above the flight deck in the ship’s island superstructure, PRI-FLY allows for a complete view of aircraft traffic on and around the flight deck. The Enterprise Carrier Strike Group (CSG) is currently deployed conducting missions in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and the continued war on terrorism. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Justin McGarry. (RELEASED)

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Arabian Gulf (Jan. 4, 2004) -- Airman Recruit Milton H. Saul of New York, N.Y., keeps track of on-going flight operations on a light board in the Primary Flight Control (PRI-FLY).

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Arabian Gulf (Jan. 4, 2004) -- An F/A-18 Hornet assigned to Carrier Air Wing One (CVW-1) catches the wire during an arrested landing on the flight deck during night flight operations aboard USS Enterprise (CVN 65).

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Arabian Gulf (Jan. 5, 2004) -- Aviation Ordnanceman Jeffrey W. Brannon, from Panama City, Fla., and fellow Aviation Ordnancemen load a laser guided bomb onto an F-14 Tomcat assigned to the Checkmates of Fighter Squadron Two One One (VF-211) aboard USS Enterprise (CVN 65). The Enterprise Carrier Strike Group (CSG) is currently deployed conducting missions in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and the continued war on terrorism. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Milosz Reterski. (RELEASED)

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Arabian Gulf (Jan. 5, 2004) -- Aviation Boatswain's Mate Airman Shuntun Goodman from Miami, Fla., directs an F/A-18 Hornet onto one of four catapults on the flight deck aboard the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN 65).

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Arabian Gulf (Jan. 5, 2004) -- Ensign Tracy Mackey from Bradyville, Iowa, signals launch shoot an F/A-18 Hornet assigned to the Checkerboards of Marine Strike Fighter Squadron Three One Two (VMFA-312), from one of four catapults on the flight deck aboard the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN 65). The Enterprise Carrier Strike Group (CSG) is currently deployed conducting missions in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and the continued war on terrorism. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Milosz Reterski. (RELEASED)

[Uncle Chô]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=510607

The Military starts recruiting at age 17; young in years, old at heart. Age doesn't make you less able unless you are to old where your body starts to slow down. Obviously you added a negative conitation to the word kids, well the military doesn't see it that way. These 'kids' made the Times person of the year. These 'kids' are protecting our world and changing the world for the Iraqi's. These 'kids' earn more respect then that.
Are you from the local recruiting office ?? :roll:

I was expecting that kind of answer... Especially because participants to this forum are mostly teenagers. And I understand they do not like being called " Kids".

Negative connotation ? I could have used the word "babies" instead ;)

My feelings are they may have been trained in the USA by the best Army in the world ...blabla, most of them haven't travelled abroad before, they are still very young, unexperienced and are "inserted" into a country they know nothing about, to fight a guerilla war led by experienced extremists that hate them.

I have seen thousands photos of the US military before. But this is the first time I feel bad. And it makes me sad to look at this picture because to me they are cannon fodders. Like the young Russian soldiers in Chechnia or the Hitler's youth in 1944/45...

[Loco]

Don´t fight, guys, or tonight I won´t eat cat in the dinner.
http://www.realgoodmovies.com/stills/red_dragon_hopkins.jpg

[glofs]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=510724

After participating in their graduation ceremony, Iraqi army soldiers of the second battalion dance on the edge of the parade grounds to celebrate Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004 in Taji, Iraq (news - web sites). Seven hundred and five recruits graduated Tuesday and will help the U.S. military conduct operations in and around Baghdad. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)




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US commander Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez watches soldiers of the new Iraqi army's 2nd Batallion march during their graduation ceremony at their base in Taji, northwest of Baghdad, 06 January 2004.(AFP/Ahmad Al-Rubaye)


New Iraqi uniform? Cool camouflage.

[Uncle Chô]

Don´t fight, guys, or tonight I won´t eat cat in the dinner.

http://www.lehigh.edu/~involley/alf.jpg
Miaaam!!

;)

[Argo AdAm]

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A dog sits in a cage destined for the dinner table in Xin Yuan wild animal market in the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou. Following a confirmed SARS (news - web sites) case in Guangzhou, the government has ordered that all masked palm civets, which are eaten here as a delicacy, be destroyed as a precaution against SARS after the virus was found in to be present in them but despite this all other 'exotic' animals are still being kept and slaughtered for food.(AFP/Peter Parks )
:cantbeli:
Look at his eyes... :(

[Haiw]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=510724

After participating in their graduation ceremony, Iraqi army soldiers of the second battalion dance on the edge of the parade grounds to celebrate Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2004 in Taji, Iraq (news - web sites). Seven hundred and five recruits graduated Tuesday and will help the U.S. military conduct operations in and around Baghdad. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)




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US commander Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez watches soldiers of the new Iraqi army's 2nd Batallion march during their graduation ceremony at their base in Taji, northwest of Baghdad, 06 January 2004.(AFP/Ahmad Al-Rubaye)


New Iraqi uniform? Cool camouflage.

Looks just like the old 6-color desert with some extra green painted over it...

[Dalleer]

Look at his eyes...

Exactly, that's what I've been trying to speak about here. But, if it is someones custom and a part of their culture to eat dogs and cats then I must do nothing else but to agree with their stand in this.

I view it as wrong, but then again the "opinions and assholes"-speech comes to play and I am sure that alot of people consider me as a sick bastard because I eat cow.

So hey, call me a "ignorant ****" but this is my opinion and as with opinions and assholes everyone has got one.

I'm going to shut up concerning this matter now, unless the likes of this M14 decide to call me with incredibly rude names again.

[Ratamacue]

Are you from the local recruiting office ?? :roll:

I was expecting that kind of answer... Especially because participants to this forum are mostly teenagers. And I understand they do not like being called " Kids".

Negative connotation ? I could have used the word "babies" instead ;)

My feelings are they may have been trained in the USA by the best Army in the world ...blabla, most of them haven't travelled abroad before, they are still very young, unexperienced and are "inserted" into a country they know nothing about, to fight a guerilla war led by experienced extremists that hate them.

I have seen thousands photos of the US military before. But this is the first time I feel bad. And it makes me sad to look at this picture because to me they are cannon fodders. Like the young Russian soldiers in Chechnia or the Hitler's youth in 1944/45...

These MEN are volunteers. They VOLUNTEERED to join, and as such, they are American soldiers, and as such, they are going to be deployed with our military. What are we supposed to do, send all the NCO's off and leave behind all the young guys so they can gain more experience by doing nothing? I don't see how you can equate them to cannon fodder when they've received the same training as any other soldier in their position and aren't even kids anymore: when you turn 18 in the US, you become an adult.

[kinghk]

I don't see how you can equate them to cannon fodder when they've received the same training as any other soldier in their position and aren't even kids anymore: when you turn 18 in the US, you become an adult.

An adult who is not allowed to drink alcohol. But to kill or get killed with your countries flag on your sholder is ok. This double morale occurs lots of places in the world.

[He219]

Look at his eyes...
I view it as wrong, but then again the "opinions and assholes"-speech comes to play and I am sure that alot of people consider me as a sick bastard because I eat cow.
Just try not to eat that Mad Cow...

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040106/thumb.sge.trj79.060104215946.photo00.default-395x258.jpg
Tests Confirm Mad Cow Came From Canada (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20040106/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow)
;)


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Three F/A-18's prepare to get in line for take off during Exercise Neon Falcon. Exercise Neon Falcon was a 10 day bi-lateral interoperability exercise with the Bahraini and American militaries. Squadrons from USS Enterprise's (CVN-65) Carrier Air Wing One (CVW-1) including VMFA-312 , VFA-86, VFA-82 and the Bahraini Air Force based at Shaikh Isa Air Base in Bahrain. (U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Aaron Peterson)

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An F-14A Tomcat from Fighter Squadron Two One One (VF-211 "Checkmates") launches from the flight deck during evening flight operations. ENTERPRISE is currently underway in the Arabian Gulf. (U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Justin McGarry)

[Whistler]

Well said Ratamacue!

The as*hole who compared them to Hitler Youth should keep in mind that it was those EXACT same American KID'S faces that left their homes at ages 16, 17, and 18 back in 1941-45 and fought to kick fascism out of Europe.

Think before you speak buddy, you'll live a much easier life.

[Jack Mehoff]

I have seen thousands photos of the US military before. But this is the first time I feel bad. And it makes me sad to look at this picture because to me they are cannon fodders. Like the young Russian soldiers in Chechnia or the Hitler's youth in 1944/45...

Russian soldiers and Hitler's youth are VOLUNTEER?


thought so


p.s. you should stop using your ass for all critical thinking

[AVZ]

I meant the guy on the left what's that scope?:cantbeli:


http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=510607

[He219]

Here's a better angle.....

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040106/capt.sge.tos93.060104161849.photo00.default-389x245.jpg

[SFontaine]

. But this is the first time I feel bad. And it makes me sad to look at this picture because to me they are cannon fodders. Like the young Russian soldiers in Chechnia or the Hitler's youth in 1944/45...

Are you a moron? Yes I'm sure the US Army has them as cannon fodders. They conscripted them outa High School, put them through 2 weeks of training and stuck them in Iraq.
Those "kids" happen to be some of the best trained people in the world, and are able to fight.

[Fioraon]

[quote=Fioraon]Are you from the local recruiting office ?? :roll:

I was expecting that kind of answer... Especially because participants to this forum are mostly teenagers. And I understand they do not like being called " Kids".

Negative connotation ? I could have used the word "babies" instead ;)

My feelings are they may have been trained in the USA by the best Army in the world ...blabla, most of them haven't travelled abroad before, they are still very young, unexperienced and are "inserted" into a country they know nothing about, to fight a guerilla war led by experienced extremists that hate them.

I have seen thousands photos of the US military before. But this is the first time I feel bad. And it makes me sad to look at this picture because to me they are cannon fodders. Like the young Russian soldiers in Chechnia or the Hitler's youth in 1944/45...

No and in fact I've never stepped in one.

There is nothing wrong with the word 'kids,' it’s just how you use it. You act as if for some reason being a kid (age 18-20) makes them less able bodies then say someone in their mid twenties. Teenagers will be teenagers and take offence when someone calls them a kid because of that same connotation you just used. Anyone would be offended.

As already been stated you are a moron. There is no reason to feel sorry for these gentlemen due of their young age. They have spent the last 18 years learning about themselves, the world around them, and their country. There is also no reason why they should not be prepared when they reach adult hood to make the decision of weather or not they are willing to defend their government. And yes it is there decision.

Just because someone is willing to fight their government’s battles it doesn’t mean they are ignorant. Maybe, and consider this, they actually take pride in their country knowing fully of its past and present, politics foreign and domestic.

[He219]

Cannonfodder; why I oughta ... :bash:

[He219]

http://www.defence.gov.au/opcatalyst/images/gallery/050104/JPAU23NOV03DH10_lo.jpg

Personnel who form part of the investigative Boarding Parties aboard the Australian frigate HMAS Melbourne are briefed prior to the commencement of boarding operations.

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Able Seaman Boatswain Mate Jamie Hughes keeps a close look out on watch for ships and other vessels in the Persian Gulf while serving aboard HMAS Melbourne.

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Able Seaman Boatswain Mate Douglas "Billy" Kidd keeps a close look out on watch for ships and other vessels in the Persian Gulf while serving aboard HMAS Melbourne.

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Petty Officer Aviator Chedder mans his post in the rear of HMAS Melbourne's Seahawk helicopter as the aircraft patrols the coast of Iraq adjacent to a key oil terminal.

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Crew from the frigate HMAS Melbourne board a vessel which has been detained for investigation. All such operations continue even during the hours of darkness. The ship is suspected of smuggling oil from Iraq. The Australians join with sailors from the USS Higgins in conducting an investigation of the suspect ship's cargo.

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Angry Anderson performs for Australian and other Coalition troops in Baghdad on Christmas Eve. (Date uploaded: 06 January 2004 - 1 image)

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Corporal Sean Seery, a member of the Australian Air Traffic Control Detachment in Baghdad, conducts security tasks at the ATC compound. Sean, along with around 850 other Australian troops deployed in the Middle East, will be spending the holiday period on operations, including Christmas and New Year's Eve. (Date uploaded: 06 January 2004 - 2 images)

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Corporal Mathew Davis- Avionics Technician, 37 Squadron is helped by an Iranian soldier as they unload the emercency supplies from the C-130J model Hercules.

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Flight Sergeant Steve Skudder- Loadmaster, 37 Squadron checks the load of supplies on the C-130J model Hercules.


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Iranian soldiers help to unload the emergency supplies

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Flight Lieutenant Pete Cseh- Pilot, 37 Squadron directs the flow of unloading of emergency supplies in Iran.


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Iranian Soldiers unload the supplies from the C-130J model Hercules. Which is in support of Australias's pledge in Humanitarian Aid to Iran.


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A local Iranian truck is being loaded with supplies from the C-130J model Hercules.

[Ballistic]

Thanks for the pics ! :)

[HumanShield]

i bet we could/would all eat a cat if we were hungry enough.

[Fargin]

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A dog sits in a cage destined for the dinner table in Xin Yuan wild animal market in the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou. Following a confirmed SARS (news - web sites) case in Guangzhou, the government has ordered that all masked palm civets, which are eaten here as a delicacy, be destroyed as a precaution against SARS after the virus was found in to be present in them but despite this all other 'exotic' animals are still being kept and slaughtered for food.(AFP/Peter Parks )
:cantbeli:
Look at his eyes... :(

Cut doggie, can I get fries with that?

[Dalleer]

i bet we could/would all eat a cat if we were hungry enough.

Agreed, "never say never" but cats would certainly be the lowest in my nutrition list if I'd be in a situation like that.

You can find lots of other animals to eat besides cats if there's a situation like that, depending on the area of course.

But, it seems that Mr M14 has withdrawn his questionable comments of me by deleting his latest post that, along the lines, labeled me a pervert.

By these acts I'm sure that he is willing to stop these childish games and forget the matter, since I know I am.

Am I to consider this a truce or a "one-way peace treaty" ?

[bobdakilla]

wtf

in my opinion its wrong to eata cat or a dog liek wtf how could u do that im no dumb **** well maybe i am but i say y the **** would u eat a poor little dog or cat like wow