Poland in Talks on Hosting U.S. Military Bases

[He219]

Poland in Talks on Hosting U.S. Military Bases (http://news.lycos.com/news/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=812235)

WARSAW (*******) - Poland has launched negotiations with Washington on hosting U.S. military bases on its territory, Defense Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski said Thursday.

"We expect the second round of consultations on the issue of bases early this year. It's too early to give any details," Szmajdzinski told the parliament's defense committee.

He added Poland was generally in favor of hosting the bases, but the issue of who would cover their operating costs remained open.

The United States began a diplomatic offensive last month in a dozen European capitals to discuss a redeployment strategy expected to involve closing bases in western Europe and reflect a greater NATO focus on the east and south.

Poland, a staunch supporter of the war in Iraq, could see one of the biggest build-ups of U.S. forces in Europe on its territory, diplomats say.

Poland joined NATO along with the Czech Republic and Hungary in 1999 -- 10 years after they toppled communist rule and escaped from the former Soviet Union bloc. Seven more countries, mostly ex-Soviet satellites, will join the alliance this year.

Russia has expressed concern over any U.S. military moves closer to its border. But Washington has said any redeployment of troops to eastern Europe was intended to tackle new security threats and was in no way directed against Moscow.

Szmajdzinski declined, however, to confirm a newspaper report that American forces could take over an air base at Powidz, to the west of Warsaw.


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[tony6]

Ahhhhh...Powidz!
Now that's the AIRBASE!
:)

[Seoulstriker]

poland is really trying to be friends with the US. :D :hug: woot

[He219]

Trying?

They ARE our friends and have proven so, while others cry 'Ammies Raus!' ...

:P

[Jack Mehoff]

To celebrate our friendship, i'm going to Poland next year to spend my money on Polish strippers instead of German strippers :D http://forums.bfnation.net/images/smiles/icon_cheers.gif

[Herrmannek]

To celebrate our friendship, i'm going to Poland next year to spend my money on Polish strippers instead of German strippers :D http://forums.bfnation.net/images/smiles/icon_cheers.gif

Good choice

[Javehn]

Poland stripers better then German ?

[podkus]

Poland stripers better then German ?

of course!
:P

[Kitsune]

Was that Pimpland or Poland we are talking about here ?

[wholagun]

Why is Russia scared, its not like Poland the US got a plan to attack them.
However this does deter them attack us.

[Herrmannek]

Why is Russia scared, its not like Poland the US got a plan to attack them.
However this does deter them attack us.
Because mighty Poland can rule them again :)

[Seoulstriker]

yes, Poland is already a friend of the US, but they are trying to be friends with the US (ala the UK). :)

[to free the oppressed]

Does Russia trust Poland? Since Poland has allowed U.S. to have bases closer to Mother Russia. Could Russia think that this is it the Cold War come true, the invasion of Russia has may begin?

[tony6]

Do Russians still believe that NATO will attack them?
(if so-their propaganda was very effective:)

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

yes, Poland is already a friend of the US, but they are trying to be friends with the US (ala the UK).

You will need to explain this one Seoulstriker its lost on me.

[Loco]

yes, Poland is already a friend of the US, but they are trying to be friends with the US (ala the UK).

You will need to explain this one Seoulstriker its lost on me.
I´m sorry because my bad english, but I think Bacilluspolymyxa understood what Seoulstriker meant: UK is not and allied of USA, is THE ALLIED. ;)

[Nizark]

Alright! My homeland is getting some big bucks.

US troops...coming to a country near you!
woot woot woot woot

[Shadow]

To celebrate our friendship, i'm going to Poland next year to spend my money on Polish strippers instead of German strippers :D http://forums.bfnation.net/images/smiles/icon_cheers.gif

rofl
Nearly every prostitute or stippers in Germany are from Poland!



Why is Russia scared, its not like Poland the US got a plan to attack them.
However this does deter them attack us.
Because mighty Poland can rule them again :)

Oh i'm sure that russia is realy afraid of poland! lol

[Rantanplan]

To celebrate our friendship, i'm going to Poland next year to spend my money on Polish strippers instead of German strippers :D http://forums.bfnation.net/images/smiles/icon_cheers.gif

rofl
Nearly every prostitute or stippers in Germany are from Poland!



bull****!!! 25% are from Russia ;)

[Rantanplan]

Why is Russia scared, its not like Poland the US got a plan to attack them.
However this does deter them attack us.

All russians are alcoholics. They even believe that the Pope plans to invade them.

[Herrmannek]

To celebrate our friendship, i'm going to Poland next year to spend my money on Polish strippers instead of German strippers :D http://forums.bfnation.net/images/smiles/icon_cheers.gif

rofl
Nearly every prostitute or stippers in Germany are from Poland!



bull****!!! 25% are from Russia ;)

and next 25% from Bielarus, Lithuania, Ukraine, Hungary....

[Shadow]

To celebrate our friendship, i'm going to Poland next year to spend my money on Polish strippers instead of German strippers :D http://forums.bfnation.net/images/smiles/icon_cheers.gif

rofl
Nearly every prostitute or stippers in Germany are from Poland!



bull****!!! 25% are from Russia ;)

and next 25% from Bielarus, Lithuania, Ukraine, Hungary....
No, 25% russian 20 % german 55 % polish i guess

[Herrmannek]

No, 25% russian 20 % german 55 % polish
Did you make a poll? :)

[Shadow]

No, 25% russian 20 % german 55 % polish
Did you make a poll? :)

I have tested 1000 and calculated up to 400 000 prostitutes in Germany.;)

[perdurabo]

hmm in Poland moust of strippers and prostitutes are from Ukraine and Russia.

[Rantanplan]

Yep, thats globalisation :D

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/aandjz/stripper.jpg

[perdurabo]

hmmm prostitutes are moving west? like birds? ;-) hmm so german ones are in france french ones are in UK and brit are in USA and American are in china?!? WTF??

[marktigger]

i thought part of the agreemnet with moscow about NATO expansion was that there wouldn't be any basing of troops in the new states obviously i was wrong.
I know the costs of maintaining Garrisons in germany is getting prohibitivley expensive. But can't see 1 uk armd div moving to Poland how on earth would senior officers go home for the weekend.

[Herrmannek]

i thought part of the agreemnet with moscow about NATO expansion was that there wouldn't be any basing of troops in the new states obviously i was wrong.

There was such agreeement but about WMD's...don't remember conventionals....

[wholagun]

i thought part of the agreemnet with moscow about NATO expansion was that there wouldn't be any basing of troops in the new states obviously i was wrong.
I know the costs of maintaining Garrisons in germany is getting prohibitivley expensive. But can't see 1 uk armd div moving to Poland how on earth would senior officers go home for the weekend.

No your not wrong, that was part of the aggrement that US would not move bases eastward. Breaking the rules, but what is Russia gonna do (invade us). Im sure US will passify Russian fears with US dollars or by whatever means. Yeah it is cheaper in Poland, and makes more sense. We got half population of germany meaning we got more open space and less restrictive laws concerning noise etc. Makes more economic, political and militaristic sense to move to Poland. We simply got bigger playing fields and more of them with less restrictive laws. But people have to keep in mind these will not be huge ass bases. they will be as they call them skeleton bases - small base with less troops and an airfield for inernational capabilities. These bases will not house 100 000 troops, and they might not even come to poland who knows.

[PAK]

i thought part of the agreemnet with moscow about NATO expansion was that there wouldn't be any basing of troops in the new states obviously i was wrong.

The agreement you mentioned was between NATO Alliance and Moscow. Plans for moving US bases to Poland are strictly bilateral, it's between Warsaw and Washington. So, theoreticaly, NATO-Russia agreements have nothing to do with it.


I know the costs of maintaining Garrisons in germany is getting prohibitivley expensive. But can't see 1 uk armd div moving to Poland how on earth would senior officers go home for the weekend.

First of all, there's no talk about moving to Poland any of US or UK big units. All suggestions points that there will be only some storage depots, one or two air bases. Nothing more. Still, these are only speculations presented by newspapers.

[wholagun]

Wait. Im confused. How does the UK fit into all this. I understand the US but how is the UK involved?

[Marmot1]

http://www.czasopismawlop.mil.pl/wiraze/w_numerzew/archiwumw/3-2003/powi00.gif

Powidz AFB logo

[army cadet_ngcsu]

I'm glad we're moving to Poland, Poland is awesome. The women look better and atleast the people like us and agree with what we are doing. After all the **** that the Russians have done to the Pols I would not say anything when mother Poland whoops mother Russia's ass....lol.

[Whistler]

I hope that these bases do good for the Polish economy. Poland really deserves it after being under the Soviets and Germans for the last 50 years.

Poland is great. Lots of Poles came to Canada during Communism and a lot of my best friends are Polish. Great people.

[Kitsune]

@Whistler:

Poland was only "under" the Soviets for the last 50 years. You probably need a history refreshing course. ;)

Normally countries with stationed US troops have to compensate the US for this. And even if not...the contribution of these bases to the economy of Poland will be neglectable.
By the way...the volume of trade Poland has with the EU is 15 times greater than the one Poland has with the US. Which is not surprinsing if one considers Polands geographical position.

[Whistler]

Ya 50 years was what I said, plus 5 or 6 years of Germans.

Either way it sucks and its good that they are free now. I hope having US bases there brings in money to the country to build up the economy.

[Seoulstriker]

yes, Poland is already a friend of the US, but they are trying to be friends with the US (ala the UK).

You will need to explain this one Seoulstriker its lost on me.

poland is trying to do 'everything possible' to get the US in a relationship similar to the UK's relationship with the US (relying on the UK to support the US in endeavors such as OIF despite strong domestic criticism, etc).

i just threw that one out into the air. ;)

[wholagun]

By the way...the volume of trade Poland has with the EU is 15 times greater than the one Poland has with the US. Which is not surprinsing if one considers Polands geographical position.


Yup. US is not that big of an economic partner 80% of our trade is with the EU and mostly Germany and France, although we are heading more to the east where our products are more accepted and known.


Lots of Poles came to Canada during Communism and a lot of my best friends are Polish. Great people.

Yeah Im one of them.. :D Love Canada.

Ok still I don't see why the UK would need to put bases in Poland?