Secrets of the Iraq War, ITV 11:10 11/01/04

[Roger Rabbit]

Review
The story of spying, bribery and secret deals done by the Americans with Saddam's senior commanders to betray their former boss, and the story of what happened to the feared Republican Guard. And exclusive interviews with the secret go-between for Saddam and the White House, and an ex-bodyguard who describes how Saddam escaped from Baghdad.

Might be watching that methinks. Just thought i'd let the other Brits know.

[Deuterium]

Please give us the details. Especially how Saddam escaped after the bombings on night one.

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I'll be watching that

[Roger Rabbit]

lol i'm sure it'll be the usually cut and paste of old images from the war but in a new order with the latest "expert" telling us what they think. Anyway if its any good i'll post up the gist of what they said.

[ChuckThunder]

Review
The story of spying, bribery and secret deals done by the Americans with Saddam's senior commanders to betray their former boss, and the story of what happened to the feared Republican Guard. And exclusive interviews with the secret go-between for Saddam and the White House, and an ex-bodyguard who describes how Saddam escaped from Baghdad.

Might be watching that methinks. Just thought i'd let the other Brits know.

01/11/04 for us yanks, right?

[Roger Rabbit]

Naa its on ITV so unless you Yanks can get that in America then i doubt its being shown.

[ChuckThunder]

Naa its on ITV so unless you Yanks can get that in America then i doubt its being shown.

Ok. Just wondering since in Europe the actual day comes first...

11/01/04

Where as in the U.S. its month first, followed by the date...

01/11/04

You pr

[Roger Rabbit]

my mistake, i thought you were asking if the program was being shown in the US not issues about the date.

Dunno about the rest of Europe but generally in Britain then its the date/month/year

[budanski]

I got ITV via cable.

[MolliG]

I got ITV via cable.

Cable... Cable is old (*Remembers the days of putting the ol' Sky card in the Satellite box, then learning to use the new :ntl cable... A few years ago...*), hasn't Digital arrived in the States yet? :lol: ;)

[ChuckThunder]

I got ITV via cable.

Cable... Cable is old (*Remembers the days of putting the ol' Sky card in the Satellite box, then learning to use the new :ntl cable... A few years ago...*), hasn't Digital arrived in the States yet? :lol: ;)

I have Digital Cable. About 800+ channels even though I watch maybe 5...

[CX20]

Please give us the details. Especially how Saddam escaped after the bombings on night one.

I read a special feature on this in my newspaper at work today, and like an idiot I left there for the next shift rather than bring it home. The report was written by one of Saddam's former bodyguards. From what I can remember, the bottom line was that Saddam's secret police chief was working for the CIA. Saddam summoned a meeting of all his senior officers. The secret police chief had warned his colleagues not to attend the meeting. Saddam was suspicious when only three senior officers turned up for the meeting, and the building was evacuated. As Saddam was being driven away in a civilian vehicle, the building was hit.

The report stated that after this incident the Secret Police chief disappeared and hasn't been heard from to this day.

The report also featured his other escape stories. When the statue of Saddam was toppled, Saddam himself was only four miles away rallying the local population. On other occasions, Saddam was hiding in a mosque when a column of Abrams rolled past engaged in a firefight. Saddam was driven around northern Baghdad in a red Volkswagon, sleeping rough in the car and in safehouses, before heading north to Tikrit.

Saddam kept just one loyal bodyguard with him most of the time. The report's author knew the bodyguard well. He stated that he knew the end was close when he saw Saddam on some of his spontaneous appearances after Baghdad fell. He said he only had to read the loyal bodyguard's increasingly worried and depressed face to know that it would soon be over.

[Deuterium]

Please give us the details. Especially how Saddam escaped after the bombings on night one.

I read a special feature on this in my newspaper at work today, and like an idiot I left there for the next shift rather than bring it home. The report was written by one of Saddam's former bodyguards. From what I can remember, the bottom line was that Saddam's secret police chief was working for the CIA. Saddam summoned a meeting of all his senior officers. The secret police chief had warned his colleagues not to attend the meeting. Saddam was suspicious when only three senior officers turned up for the meeting, and the building was evacuated. As Saddam was being driven away in a civilian vehicle, the building was hit.

The report stated that after this incident the Secret Police chief disappeared and hasn't been heard from to this day.

The report also featured his other escape stories. When the statue of Saddam was toppled, Saddam himself was only four miles away rallying the local population. On other occasions, Saddam was hiding in a mosque when a column of Abrams rolled past engaged in a firefight. Saddam was driven around northern Baghdad in a red Volkswagon, sleeping rough in the car and in safehouses, before heading north to Tikrit.

Saddam kept just one loyal bodyguard with him most of the time. The report's author knew the bodyguard well. He stated that he knew the end was close when he saw Saddam on some of his spontaneous appearances after Baghdad fell. He said he only had to read the loyal bodyguard's increasingly worried and depressed face to know that it would soon be over.

Cool Thanks.

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that was a f*cking class program! Showed all the tanks, planes and artillery that iraq would have used to pound the Coalition if it hadn't been for good ol' bribery. They even had challenger tanks and decent artillery. They explained the disapearing republican guard and the half-truths the US military gave the press.

It also had stuff about the whereabouts of Saddam during the campaign and how narrowly his missed being bombed and bumping into abrams. It also brought to light the guys in saddams inner circle the weren't in the deck of cards, such as the head of iraqi intelligence and on of saddams cousins, showing that they were cooperating with the US. plus loads of footage of 3ID going into baghdad past where saddam was hiding and stuff like that. I hope you guys get to see it.

[Roger Rabbit]

They also said the Iraqi Air Force Commanders made a deal with the Intelligence Agencies and thats why there were no Air ops against the Coalition.

[marktigger]

was very good espically when you had read the Int sums on tellic filled in a few holes.
Would love to know how much the Iraqis knew about us in the run up to us going north.
Big respect to that former president of Lebanon for trying to sort something out and being a go between.

[MolliG]

Very interesting program, especially how close Saddam was to the US Forces in Baghdad. Some really good footage as well which I hadn't seen, and it didn't seem to be dumbed down (maybe that’s why it was on quite late) like some other programs on the conflict. :)


... They even had challenger tanks...
Very much doubt they were Challengers, more than likely Chieftains or their variants (Shir 1 etc) captured from Iran during the war in the '80s. :D





I got ITV via cable.

Cable... Cable is old (*Remembers the days of putting the ol' Sky card in the Satellite box, then learning to use the new :ntl cable... A few years ago...*), hasn't Digital arrived in the States yet? :lol: ;)

I have Digital Cable. About 800+ channels even though I watch maybe 5...

I see :), we had Digital Cable but the provider was ****, so we went Digital Satellite (Sky once again)... If ya' wanted to know ;)...

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... They even had challenger tanks...
Very much doubt they were Challengers, more than likely Chieftains or their variants (Shir 1 etc) captured from Iran during the war in the '80s. :D





well that's what the american soldier called it and he was standing right in front of it. I thought it might have been a challenger one or maybe that american was just a dumbass

[Roger Rabbit]

What happened in the last 15 minutes of the program? Wasnt able to see it due to my TV reception being so **** i gave up watching.

[wulfstan]

That programme was great, I like the way that it revealed the way that most arabs can be bought and sold like cattle. Did you notice the pic of the fat guy in the background of one of the still photos of Saddam, referred to as Saddam's cousin who is married to Saddam's sister!! Inter-breeding or what? The same guy was a member of his inner circle, and he betrayed him to the US. Loyalty counts for nothing obviously.
The frontline commanders just left their troops to die in the face of airstrikes too.

Btw, the CNN footage of those trucks and cars being shot to peices was nuts...

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That programme was great, I like the way that it revealed the way that most arabs can be bought and sold like cattle



arabs?!! I think anyone that lives in an undemocratic country can be bribed the fact that they were arab means nothing.

[marktigger]

Or chieftans taken of the Kuwaitis