M16 and special forces

[specialairservice]

Does anyone know why American special forces dont use the M16/M203 anymore, all I see now are M4s, I know there newer but why not use the M16A4? Please help thanks.

[Deuterium]

Uhhhh because we are issued M4s?

[Deuterium]

The answee without sarcasm is that the M16 is just to darn big for confined work. The accuracy of the M4 at distance was a willing trade-off. The benefits were a shorter and lighter weapon.

[budanski]

What the M-4 lacks at distance, a javelin, AT-4, or GPS coordinates for JDAMs can take care of hence the title of Special Forces. ;)

[usa320]

INdeed, SF is all about being light and mobile, and the M-4 is better for that type of situation.

[George W. Bush]

what's the minimum barrel length required for the 2500 (or is it 3000?) fps to fragment properly?

[Chris196]

what's the minimum barrel length required for the 2500 (or is it 3000?) fps to fragment properly?

http://www.ammo-oracle.com/

[ibstolidude]

@ Deuterium

Sorry , I have to ask...What is up with the avatar?

Are we getting a free chemistry lesson on bonding of Phosphorus and Nitrogen?

[Deuterium]

@ Deuterium

Sorry , I have to ask...What is up with the avatar?

Are we getting a free chemistry lesson on bonding of Phosphorus and Nitrogen?

Deuterium.... Duh...

[NcDeuce]

Wo0rd

[NcDeuce]

I wouldn't mind using the longass M16 to rest my armpit on during long road marches.

[Deuterium]

Okay Long story.....

My detachment went to JRTC in 95. Our mission was to find a SCUD missle and call CAS in on it. We had a SOT-A attached to us for the mish. A SOT-A can do radio intercept. The SCUD site was supposed to be sending radio transmissions every hour. The box we had to look for it was 10Ks by 10Ks. The SOT-A assured us that they would have a fix on the site within a couple of hours on the ground. The only drawback was that they needed high ground to do their portion of the OP. They wanted to go to the highest portion of the box. We wanted to go to the lowest and hide. So we decide to split up and let them do their magic and we'll hide in a swamp. At the time I was reading a book about the raid on the Heavy water(deuterium) production plant during WWII. We didn't have a secure radio to talk to the SOT-A on and we decided to use a hand-held radio and just use codewords. For whatever the reason I, the commo guy, picked words from this book. Tritium for "we've located the site" and deuterium for "nothing to report". I can't remember the rest of the code words. Well the SOT-A had talked up the fact that they would have this site located real quick. We all anticipated a short field exercise. Infil goes smoothly and we get to our site. Radio contact was set for every 4 hours. FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS EVERY RADIO CONTACT WAS DEUTERIUM. I'd hear that stupid word and go back to the swamp and tell the guys, deuterium...... They never did find the site. After day two we had to do the whole thing by foot, 100 square kilometers of searching. We found it, called CAS and ended the problem. To this day my former team-mates, over beers, always look at each other and say, deuterium and laugh.

[fred_engles]

I don't really want to think about this right now, but Deuterium's avatar is actually some sort of rather odd reaction. It's a nuclear fusion reaction (not really chemistry at all), showing Deuterium + Deuterium = Helium-4 (+ energy, of course), but I'm not sure it would actually happen in a lab if you tried to fuse Deuterium. I seem to remember that fusing Deuterium + Deuterium = Tritium + Neutron (+Energy).

Where's the image from, Deut., and what is it supposed to show?

[I'm no scientist, at least currently, so take this all with a heap of salt. Nonetheless, I'm thinking in my semi-awake state this is accurate.]

[TriggerPuller]

Okay Long story.....

My detachment went to JRTC in 95. Our mission was to find a SCUD missle and call CAS in on it. We had a SOT-A attached to us for the mish. A SOT-A can do radio intercept. The SCUD site was supposed to be sending radio transmissions every hour. The box we had to look for it was 10Ks by 10Ks. The SOT-A assured us that they would have a fix on the site within a couple of hours on the ground. The only drawback was that they needed high ground to do their portion of the OP. They wanted to go to the highest portion of the box. We wanted to go to the lowest and hide. So we decide to split up and let them do their magic and we'll hide in a swamp. At the time I was reading a book about the raid on the Heavy water(deuterium) production plant during WWII. We didn't have a secure radio to talk to the SOT-A on and we decided to use a hand-held radio and just use codewords. For whatever the reason I, the commo guy, picked words from this book. Tritium for "we've located the site" and deuterium for "nothing to report". I can't remember the rest of the code words. Well the SOT-A had talked up the fact that they would have this site located real quick. We all anticipated a short field exercise. Infil goes smoothly and we get to our site. Radio contact was set for every 4 hours. FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS EVERY RADIO CONTACT WAS DEUTERIUM. I'd hear that stupid word and go back to the swamp and tell the guys, deuterium...... They never did find the site. After day two we had to do the whole thing by foot, 100 square kilometers of searching. We found it, called CAS and ended the problem. To this day my former team-mates, over beers, always look at each other and say, deuterium and laugh. I can just see all the wannabes over here with their jaw dropped saying to themselves whaaaaaaat!!! LOL
Good story bro.

TP

[ibstolidude]

@ Deuterium

Sorry , I have to ask...What is up with the avatar?

Are we getting a free chemistry lesson on bonding of Phosphorus and Nitrogen?

Deuterium.... Duh...
I will now kick my own head.
even your colors should have been a give away.

duh Deuterium: 2H or for the story D20
1x neutreon
1x proton


Thanks for the explanation and the background!

[ibstolidude]

I don't really want to think about this right now, but Deuterium's avatar is actually some sort of rather odd reaction. It's a nuclear fusion reaction (not really chemistry at all), showing Deuterium + Deuterium = Helium-4 (+ energy, of course), but I'm not sure it would actually happen in a lab if you tried to fuse Deuterium. I seem to remember that fusing Deuterium + Deuterium = Tritium + Neutron (+Energy).

Where's the image from, Deut., and what is it supposed to show?

[I'm no scientist, at least currently, so take this all with a heap of salt. Nonetheless, I'm thinking in my semi-awake state this is accurate.]
I beleive what you are the nuclear fusion you are thinking of is the 2 Hydrogen Isotopes:
Dueteruim plus Tritium (D + T) = (4He+N+Energy) 4He and n.

Often the Trituim is manufactured from Lithium.

[budanski]

What a bunch of nerds. What? are you using them, there kom-puters? ;)





BTW, Popular Mechanics has a really neat article on MIT's work on Nuclear Fusion.

[usa320]

Stop reminding me of Of Chemistry and Physics classes i once stumbled through.

:cantbeli:

Neat story though deut.

[ibstolidude]

love tht internet...even an assclown like me can look smart..

well maybe not.