How to become an US citizen?

[BigBaribal]

Just a factual question: if I go to the USA, can I easily ask citizenship with these conditions:


"The immigrants will be provided with housing and furniture, they will be helped to learn the English language and to complete formalities needed for residence in the US, which is especially important, and have been promised life-long welfare allowances for pensioners and the disabled."

http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2004-07/24/article04.shtml


In fact I always believed it was very hard to get US citizenship or even a green card, if you are not top-qualified in a specific professional domain?

So, according to these conditions, I could settle down in the USA, without any specific requirements and with my family too, even with full welfare for disabled ones, if I have well understood it? If true, it's cool, where can I sign?

I asked that, because a friend of mine, a Swiss top-qualified engineer working in the LA area, had to go back to Switerland, because his green card was over and he was between two jobs.



P.S. It's NOT an islam thread, I'm sure these conditions are offered to other peoples which are not muslim, so I repeat it, it's NOT an islam thread.

[Wodan]

Have to agree, is there some kind of "children welfare", you get monthly money for each child you make?

Id like to make like 16 children, and life by that money =)

[VISTREL]

It took me 7 years to get, and make sure you don't get arrested, and have a job...never got any money from the government.....

[Brentmeister]

A related article:-

The Kennedy-McCain Amnesty Scam. Don't be fooled by peddlers of ‘Immigration Reform’ Scams

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=9837

Pay close attention to no.3

(3) "Amnesty visas" (H5-B) for illegal aliens & families in the US. Unlimited "amnesty visas," allowing 6 years' stay in the US for illegal aliens, spouses & children. Apply and pay a $2000 fine. It's continuing, not one-time only. In other words you can now purchase US citizenship for a bargain bucket price of $2000. However if foreigners wish to work in the UK it is currently a free for all. All that is required to enter the UK is a covert pledge of allegiance to Blairs New Labour and verbally oppose both English traditions and the teachings of the English language. Welcome to the land of idocy.

[BigBaribal]

It took me 7 years to get, and make sure you don't get arrested, and have a job...never got any money from the government.....


So, there's obviously a big ugly fat double-standard here!

[ZeroZen]

join the US military to get US citizenship with 1 1/2 years or within your term of service....



I sound like a recruiter :roll:

[walford]

Being a citizen is a strike against you in this country.

Come here w/o any paperwork so you can remain anonymous [especially useful if you're a criminal or terrorist], pretend you don't speak the language and -- this is extremely important -- make babies here with the stupidest woman you can find [the more the better]. Don't worry, you can abandon them soon enough. They will automatically be born American citizens and you can live off the American taxpayers' largesse while you work diligently on your beer belly.

You see, if you go through the trouble of following the law and actually become a US citizen, then you will be expected to pay for the above. Don't be a sucker.

[Wodan]

Being a citizen is a strike against you in this country.

Come here w/o any paperwork so you can remain anonymous [especially useful if you're a criminal or terrorist], pretend you don't speak the language and -- this is extremely important -- make babies here with the stupidest woman you can find [the more the better]. Don't worry, you can abandon them soon enough. They will automatically be born American citizens and you can live off the American taxpayers' largesse while you work diligently on your beer belly.

You see, if you go through the trouble of following the law and actually become a US citizen, then you will be expected to pay for the above. Don't be a sucker.

Uhhm.. the woman marrying thing is a good idea!

[nognig]

join the US military to get US citizenship with 1 1/2 years or within your term of service....

I sound like a recruiter :roll:

You can't join the military without a Green Card, although I have heard of a few exceptions.

There are three main ways to get a Green Card. You can apply for Citizenship 3-5 years after you get your Green Card.

1. Employment-based - you have a skill a US company wants and can't find a US citizen to do or you have $1million and you want to start a US company (takes 3-5 years).

2. Family Reunification - close family already has a Green Card or citizenship, including if you marry an American (takes 3-15 years)

3. Asylum - you can prove that your life is in danger if you stay in your home country (??? years)

NN

[Wodan]

3. Asylum - you can prove that your life is in danger if you stay in your home country

Hehe, no problem

prove => Freibier and Wiesel life here p-)

[Atlantic Friend]

2. Family Reunification - close family already has a Green Card or citizenship, including if you marry an American (takes 3-15 years)

Wow, up to 15 years after you get a Green Card even if you're married to a US citizen ? Is there so much red tape ?

[Geezah]

It took my Vietnamese friends 10yrs to get into the States.

[Bluezoo]

2. Family Reunification - close family already has a Green Card or citizenship, including if you marry an American (takes 3-15 years)

Wow, up to 15 years after you get a Green Card even if you're married to a US citizen ? Is there so much red tape ?

That is for greencard based petition. The wait time is long depending which country you come from because there are quotas. Mind you, these quotas are filled up quickly because a lot of people from many countries including yours are flocking in to immigrate to the US, for whatever personal reason they have. There are just too many of them and the US has to verify their identities and check their background which would involve the aspiring immigrant's domicile country's cooperation.

[BigBaribal]

Being a citizen is a strike against you in this country.

Come here w/o any paperwork so you can remain anonymous [especially useful if you're a criminal or terrorist], pretend you don't speak the language and -- this is extremely important -- make babies here with the stupidest woman you can find [the more the better]. Don't worry, you can abandon them soon enough. They will automatically be born American citizens and you can live off the American taxpayers' largesse while you work diligently on your beer belly.

You see, if you go through the trouble of following the law and actually become a US citizen, then you will be expected to pay for the above. Don't be a sucker.


Ah, it's like in Europe :|

[digrar]

2. Family Reunification - close family already has a Green Card or citizenship, including if you marry an American (takes 3-15 years)

Wow, up to 15 years after you get a Green Card even if you're married to a US citizen ? Is there so much red tape ?

That is for greencard based petition. The wait time is long depending which country you come from because there are quotas. Mind you, these quotas are filled up quickly because a lot of people from many countries including yours are flocking in to immigrate to the US, for whatever personal reason they have. There are just too many of them and the US has to verify their identities and check their background which would involve the aspiring immigrant's domicile country's cooperation.

There aren't quotas on spousal visas, I think you might be thinking of the green card lottery, there are quotos for the lottery and it's divided into regions around the world with some regions getting the lions share and some countries within some reions not being able to participate at all due to high numbers of normal imigration.

[Bluezoo]

I'm sorry for the use of quotas then. But are you sure? I thought petitions based on green cards have "quotas"--meaning the amount of of beneficiaries they could process for a given year because there are backlogs, depending on which country the beneficiary is domiciled. The backlogs delays the petition process so in countries where there are the beneficiaries are so numerous, the then INS imposed a limit or quota for the number of applicants they would process for a given year. Anyway, I appreciate your insights and your corrections are well taken. ;)

[zzztip]

i wish i was an american, plz god make it so teeeheee teeeeheeee

Still waiting for the greencard ? I hope for you they don't have a waste filter in the procedure rofl

[nognig]

2. Family Reunification - close family already has a Green Card or citizenship, including if you marry an American (takes 3-15 years)

Wow, up to 15 years after you get a Green Card even if you're married to a US citizen ? Is there so much red tape ?

I threw marriage to an American in with "family reunification". As stated above, there are no quota when marrying an American. You can get a green card in ~3 years using that route.

However, there are various quotas for "family reunification" depending on which country you are coming from and how "close" of family you are. For example, you get a higher priority if you are the spouse of an American vs. the brother of one.

For non-spouses coming from the Phillipines, I've heard the wait is in the 10-15 year range.

NN

[Drunkensquid]

I got my US citizenship in 5 years woot

[Atlantic Friend]

That is for greencard based petition. The wait time is long depending which country you come from because there are quotas. Mind you, these quotas are filled up quickly because a lot of people from many countries including yours are flocking in to immigrate to the US, for whatever personal reason they have. There are just too many of them and the US has to verify their identities and check their background which would involve the aspiring immigrant's domicile country's cooperation.

Well, I'm sure there's no shortage of volunteers to get their hands on a Green Card and a citizenship. Do you know if dual citizenship is allowed in the US ?

[nognig]

Well, I'm sure there's no shortage of volunteers to get their hands on a Green Card and a citizenship. Do you know if dual citizenship is allowed in the US ?

It's no "allowed" per se, but it is tolerated.

The more important question is, does your home country allow dual citizenship?

I know India apparently doesn't. For people who want to keep their original citizenship, it makes for a difficult choice.

NN

[Bluezoo]

That is for greencard based petition. The wait time is long depending which country you come from because there are quotas. Mind you, these quotas are filled up quickly because a lot of people from many countries including yours are flocking in to immigrate to the US, for whatever personal reason they have. There are just too many of them and the US has to verify their identities and check their background which would involve the aspiring immigrant's domicile country's cooperation.

Well, I'm sure there's no shortage of volunteers to get their hands on a Green Card and a citizenship. Do you know if dual citizenship is allowed in the US ?

Dual citizenship is allowed in the US. You see, some countries follow the ius soli principle-right of the soil (under which citizenship results from being born in the __ country) where people born in their territories are automatically citizens. In the United States, a child born from foreign parents still entitles the child to become a US citizen. The right is vested, except if the child belongs to foreign diplomats and other exceptions. But what is interesting is that if the country of the parents of the child follows the so called ius sanguinis principle-right of the blood(under which citizenship results from having the citizenship of the parent or parents) principle. As far as the country of the parents of the child is concerned, the child born in the US retains the citizenship of the parents. However, as far as the US is is concerned, the child is an American. "Many dual-citizenship situations result from the interaction of two countries' implementations of ius soli and/or ius sanguinis in their respective citizenship laws. For example, a child might acquire the citizenship of the country in which he was born (via ius soli), and also the citizenship of his parents' country (via ius sanguinis), and as a result start life as a dual citizen."