Loco
01-12-2004, 02:32 PM
I initiate this topic because it always appealed me, and I think it´s a suggestive topic. I´d like everybody pasted the grave´s warriors each one more likes. It´s more important the grave being nice and with an everlasting look than the importance of the soldier himself when he was alive, although if he achieved famous exploits it adds more value, of course, but it´s only needed the dead was a warrior. For famous soldier´s graves, it can be opened a different thread. And the more diverse the graves are the better: an indian chief, a prehistoric tribe man, a roman centurion, a german ace, a GI fallen in a SPacific island, a lost legionnaire, all ages and countries.
If the grave has a beauty epitaph, please post it. About epitaphs, well, all men have more or less beautiful words when they die, even if they don´t deserve it, but it happens that many epitaphs are repetitive and stereotyped, so please don´t copy this kind of epitaphs. And again, it´s more valid a nice epith, the one you´d like in your own tomb, that an anodyne epitaph. . Anyhow, feel free to past the photos and epitaphs you want. Ah! I love latin epitaphs!
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http://centros5.pntic.mec.es/ies.juana.de.castilla/20044059.jpg
http://www.magicspain.com/siguenza/blocks/block_b/block_b01.jpg
http://www.lilliputmodel.com/alabarda/actividad/excursion/excursion3/imagenes/catedral.gif
Sigüenza cathedral.
This soldier was don Martín Vázquez de Arce, better know as "El doncel de Sigüenza"(the page of Sigüenza). His grave is inside the Sigüenza cathedral, in Guadalajara, Castilla, between the graves of his parents, both beautiful too. He died in 1.486 in the last war against moors in Spain, the conquest of Granada kingdom, when he was ambushed by the moors. His father don Fernando was fighting in the same war although he wasn´t with him, and he was the one who recovered the body of his son. Martín de Arce was a knight of Orden de Santiago(Order of S.James), as it shows the shape of the red cross he wears in the chest. Martín is reading a book called "Libro de Horas", because the legend says Martín dedicated a last memory to his mother, doña Catalina de Sosa, when he was diying, remembering the mother´s willing of he being a man of science better than a warrior. The sculpture was ordered in 1.492(the same year war finished) by his brother D. Fernando, bishop in Canary Island. Anyway, the monument represents the end of Middle Age, a dark time, and the beggining of Renaissance, the mix of the pen and the sword, and actually Martín de Arce was a well lettered man, like other warriors of that time that did war and wrote poetry to their ladies. This grave has an epitaph, written in gothic letters and in old castillian, but it only says in a succinct way the circumstances of Martín´death, without any commentary for posteriority. And well, this grave really is an everlasting one, ah the good old times!
Recuerde al alma dormida,
avive el seso y despierte,
contemplando
cómo se pasa la vida,
cómo se viene la muerte
tan callando;
.
.
.
Nuestras vidas son los ríos
que van a dar en la mar,
qu´es el morir.
Allí van los señoríos
derechos a se acabar
e consumir.
If the grave has a beauty epitaph, please post it. About epitaphs, well, all men have more or less beautiful words when they die, even if they don´t deserve it, but it happens that many epitaphs are repetitive and stereotyped, so please don´t copy this kind of epitaphs. And again, it´s more valid a nice epith, the one you´d like in your own tomb, that an anodyne epitaph. . Anyhow, feel free to past the photos and epitaphs you want. Ah! I love latin epitaphs!
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http://centros5.pntic.mec.es/ies.juana.de.castilla/20044059.jpg
http://www.magicspain.com/siguenza/blocks/block_b/block_b01.jpg
http://www.lilliputmodel.com/alabarda/actividad/excursion/excursion3/imagenes/catedral.gif
Sigüenza cathedral.
This soldier was don Martín Vázquez de Arce, better know as "El doncel de Sigüenza"(the page of Sigüenza). His grave is inside the Sigüenza cathedral, in Guadalajara, Castilla, between the graves of his parents, both beautiful too. He died in 1.486 in the last war against moors in Spain, the conquest of Granada kingdom, when he was ambushed by the moors. His father don Fernando was fighting in the same war although he wasn´t with him, and he was the one who recovered the body of his son. Martín de Arce was a knight of Orden de Santiago(Order of S.James), as it shows the shape of the red cross he wears in the chest. Martín is reading a book called "Libro de Horas", because the legend says Martín dedicated a last memory to his mother, doña Catalina de Sosa, when he was diying, remembering the mother´s willing of he being a man of science better than a warrior. The sculpture was ordered in 1.492(the same year war finished) by his brother D. Fernando, bishop in Canary Island. Anyway, the monument represents the end of Middle Age, a dark time, and the beggining of Renaissance, the mix of the pen and the sword, and actually Martín de Arce was a well lettered man, like other warriors of that time that did war and wrote poetry to their ladies. This grave has an epitaph, written in gothic letters and in old castillian, but it only says in a succinct way the circumstances of Martín´death, without any commentary for posteriority. And well, this grave really is an everlasting one, ah the good old times!
Recuerde al alma dormida,
avive el seso y despierte,
contemplando
cómo se pasa la vida,
cómo se viene la muerte
tan callando;
.
.
.
Nuestras vidas son los ríos
que van a dar en la mar,
qu´es el morir.
Allí van los señoríos
derechos a se acabar
e consumir.