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Jack Mehoff
01-14-2004, 12:24 AM
Hey ****amus, do you have to use dead American soldiers to support your political view? Try to carry that sign in a U.S. military base and i personally going to kick your ass. **** YOU :fork: :slap:

http://ducimus19.mypicgallery.com/?/popil/mylife_large.jpg

ShotOver
01-14-2004, 12:26 AM
Yeah, that little **** head has gone too far.

PM hood about it... ****in, get the little ugly prick banned.

papasmerf
01-14-2004, 12:30 AM
Hey ****amus, do you have to use dead American soldiers to support your political view? Try to carry that sign in a U.S. military base and i personally going to kick your ass. f*** YOU :fork: :slap:

http://ducimus19.mypicgallery.com/?/popil/mylife_large.jpg


It's his opinion Jack, what you gonna do... the guy is a loser and we all know it. It's not like his lil poster will mean anything to Americans anyway. But if one of us walks into him someday in real life, I think he's gonna need a real good plastic surgeon p-)

ShotOver
01-14-2004, 12:32 AM
Yeah, if only he didnt remove his pictures... i think i could PSP them pretty well...

haha, good for a laugh.

Skaman
01-14-2004, 12:32 AM
Look, I respect soldiers; I am one for Christ sake. I don’t respect that Bush is sending them to their deaths. I have remorse fir them, thus I have this sig identifying me belief. If it bothers so many people, I will have a poll, if everyone wants it removed, I will do so. Is that fair? I am willing to compromise.

Jack Mehoff
01-14-2004, 12:32 AM
what's the difference between using dead Russian soldiers to promote a game and using dead American soldiers to support ones political view? :bash: How about leave the dead alone, EH?

ShotOver
01-14-2004, 12:32 AM
Your not a soldier, hahah...

Use your ****ing brain, if you have one.

Skaman
01-14-2004, 12:33 AM
Hey ****amus, do you have to use dead American soldiers to support your political view? Try to carry that sign in a U.S. military base and i personally going to kick your ass. f*** YOU :fork: :slap:

http://ducimus19.mypicgallery.com/?/popil/mylife_large.jpg


It's his opinion Jack, what you gonna do... the guy is a loser and we all know it. It's not like his lil poster will mean anything to Americans anyway. But if one of us walks into him someday in real life, I think he's gonna need a real good plastic surgeon p-)


The infamous e-threat. The infantry soldier is attacked be steaming 15 year olds, oh no!

Skaman
01-14-2004, 12:34 AM
what's the difference between using dead Russian soldiers to promote a game and using dead American soldiers to support ones political view? :bash: How about leave the dead alone, EH?

Am I disgracing a documented image of fallen soldiers? not that I recall

EvanL
01-14-2004, 12:34 AM
Respect his beliefs like he respects yours. I dont see him flaming you guys, yet every time he posts you flame him. **** i dont agree with the poster, but if he wants to prove a point using it its his choice. I personally would rather he didnt use it. But i dont ****ing care.

Jack Mehoff
01-14-2004, 12:36 AM
Have you ever been in a military funeral doucebag19? Try to carry a sign like that to a funeral and you wish you were never born.

Skaman
01-14-2004, 12:45 AM
Have you ever been in a military funeral doucebag19? Try to carry a sign like that to a funeral and you wish you were never born.


you are likely right. The truth is very painfull. Both emotionally, and likely physically for me in this case. ;)

papasmerf
01-14-2004, 12:50 AM
Hey ****amus, do you have to use dead American soldiers to support your political view? Try to carry that sign in a U.S. military base and i personally going to kick your ass. f*** YOU :fork: :slap:

http://ducimus19.mypicgallery.com/?/popil/mylife_large.jpg


It's his opinion Jack, what you gonna do... the guy is a loser and we all know it. It's not like his lil poster will mean anything to Americans anyway. But if one of us walks into him someday in real life, I think he's gonna need a real good plastic surgeon p-)


The infamous e-threat. The infantry soldier is attacked be steaming 15 year olds, oh no!

lol The infantry soldier, Duci you're not the warrior you think you are. As far as threatning you, I didn't mean to threat you, but you should know you're asking to get smacked by posting posters like that. If you knew me personally you'd know I'm not a violent person, I don't take pleasure in beating people up. But some people do, and one day you will get popped for your ways of expressing your opinions, and of course I don't wish you that, but that's just what might happen.

papasmerf
01-14-2004, 12:51 AM
Have you ever been in a military funeral doucebag19? Try to carry a sign like that to a funeral and you wish you were never born.


you are likely right. The truth is very painfull. Both emotionally, and likely physically for me in this case. ;)


Jack just made a great point and you still keep up with your ****, God have mercy upon you Duci.

Shake n Bake
01-14-2004, 12:57 AM
Look, I respect soldiers; I am one for Christ sake.


Soldier?! Who gave you that idea?


You're about as hard as a wet pillow...

ShotOver
01-14-2004, 12:58 AM
Yeah, hes a little reserve punk...

BTW: my sig rules

Skaman
01-14-2004, 12:59 AM
Bizarre, one gets 'beat' up for a political orientation. This sounds a lot like censorship to me, not to mention cold war era politics. Second, I never claimed to be a 'warrior' or the next pte. Lynch, I am simply an infantry reservist. I know what I am doing, and frankly, its laughable that I am threatened by 15 year old civilians over the internet.
http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/.Pictures/you.jpg

ShotOver
01-14-2004, 01:04 AM
haha, get off your high chair, you just a silly little prick to us.

hahahaha rofl

Skaman
01-14-2004, 01:07 AM
haha, get off your high chair, you just a silly little prick to us.

hahahaha rofl


Is responding worth it? Deep breath...no. Take care PT.

OzMan
01-14-2004, 01:07 AM
What I don't understand is what people think is so bad about "sending soldiers to their deaths" if you want to call it that. Have we forgot the basic realities of war? Soldiers die, and that's the way it always has been. I've had several conversations with members of America's armed forces who are currently stationed overseas, some in Iraq, and none of them believe that they were sent to Iraq on a suicide mission. They all know why they are there, and they believe in their mission. They were sent there to do a job, and none of them want to leave until the job is finished.

Would it be better if we had a military in this day and age, but just kept them at home, waiting for the bombs to start dropping on their homes? I don't think so. We (the USA) are a first-world country with a foreign agenda. So what, big deal. Yeah, we do the dirty work for the world because others won't. We send soldiers to pursue the policy of this country, and how can we expect a 0 casualty rate? You can't. Every military action in the history of combat has had deaths, and I don't see how one man (Bush) doing the same things that his forefathers (shut up about his father being President) before him did, by sending soldiers overseas to protect freedom and to aid the less fortunate, is so bad. Remember, we have an all-volunteer military. They want to be there. They took an oath, knowing full and well that they may one day give their life for their country.

I'm sorry, but I don't see a problem. Call me ignorant, call me an American pig, call me what you want, but I just don't see how he is sending our boys to their deaths.

ShotOver
01-14-2004, 01:08 AM
I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win rofl

redhawk_six
01-14-2004, 02:24 AM
Ban him!?

What the ****!?

What happened to democracy and freedom of speech!?

You pricks are bunch of mother ****ing hyporcrytes.

You're worse than him, at least he isn't trying to have someone banned for exersing their rights and stating their opinion! At least he is being mature about it!

****, just knock it off, you have a problem with it, TOUGH ****! Go whine to your mommy's and daddy's about it you arrogent pre-pubesent kids.

ShotOver
01-14-2004, 02:40 AM
hahahahha, settle down tiger.

Shake n Bake
01-14-2004, 03:06 AM
Uh, This a private internet forum...What's this **** about infringement of democracy and freedom of speech?

Seiyuuki
01-14-2004, 03:48 AM
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ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
01-14-2004, 04:24 AM
Its everyones right to have an opinion, if you may not like it thats your call. But critizing the opinion in mob mentality isnt exactly constructive, instead of having a productive converstation we end up with comments like.....
But if one of us walks into him someday in real life, I think he's gonna need a real good plastic surgeon
And
Use your f*** brain, if you have one.
If you cant say anything without starting to flame someone then dont say it at all.

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01-14-2004, 06:27 AM
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Aegirsson
01-14-2004, 06:38 AM
Ducimus you should not even answer to this kind of stupid post.
They are touching the bottom: creating a thread just for one person , who stayed polite, and did not insult anyone.
Let them ridiculise themselves , and plz don't feed their troll.

It's a shame, really..., some retards are ruining the good threads with their dumb comments; Because it is one thing to post stupidities on a off-topic/humour thread but it is another to write bad things without any arguments. We have interesting persons on this site , who can learn us some stuff, but if the exchange is only in one way and that you don't show a little bit of respect, i dont think that they will take the time give us some of their knowledges.

Dalleer
01-14-2004, 07:46 AM
Aaww, look at all those cute Panda-bears...

What was this topic about??

WARPIG
01-14-2004, 07:48 AM
Ducimus you should not even answer to this kind of stupid post.
They are touching the bottom: creating a thread just for one person , who stayed polite, and did not insult anyone.
Let them ridiculise themselves , and plz don't feed their troll.

It's a shame, really..., some retards are ruining the good threads with their dumb comments; Because it is one thing to post stupidities on a off-topic/humour thread but it is another to write bad things without any arguments. We have interesting persons on this site , who can learn us some stuff, but if the exchange is only in one way and that you don't show a little bit of respect, i dont think that they will take the time give us some of their knowledges.

Read my comments on dicamus. I consistantly point out exactly what his problem is. He is so blind by his political opinion that it kills his credibility.
Want to know why only the quick tempered seem to answer his more recent posts? Because the rest of us have gotten tired of listening to a broken record.
Bottom line, dicamus is too immature to see history as it impacts the whole world. He is too biased to make any credible argument. And too disrespectful to have any support.
No soldier would dishonor the dead by advertising their deaths as being worthless or in vain. Any soldier will tell you they don't serve or fight for oil or politics.. they fight for each other, their country, and their beliefs. Usually in that order. Dicamus clearly doesn't get it. Apparently he is not alone.

Seiyuuki
01-14-2004, 07:49 AM
Ducimus you should not even answer to this kind of stupid post.
They are touching the bottom: creating a thread just for one person , who stayed polite, and did not insult anyone.
Let them ridiculise themselves , and plz don't feed their troll.

Heh...there are more than one way to insult someone beside the usual and obvious "idiot, stupid...and so forth..."

Both sides have been fair game in the arena.


It's a shame, really..., some retards are ruining the good threads with their dumb comments; Because it is one thing to post stupidities on a off-topic/humour thread but it is another to write bad things without any arguments. We have interesting persons on this site , who can learn us some stuff, but if the exchange is only in one way and that you don't show a little bit of respect, i dont think that they will take the time give us some of their knowledges.

Hmmm...you are defending ducimus19...right?

Seiyuuki
01-14-2004, 07:50 AM
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Aegirsson
01-14-2004, 08:08 AM
Seiyuuki this is my last post on this thread so i will make it short:
You are saying that : Both sides have been fair game in the arena.
First: i don't see any sides. I see all the american and/or pro irak war poster insulting ducimus directly. If i need to precise the word "directly" for you to understand what they are doing in each of their posts you must be blind.

Second: Since i'm not a native english speaker i have probably made errors but what you pointed out is argueable...
I changed of paragraphe so i assume the readers understood that i wasn't speaking of Ducimus anymore, and the "you" is an impersonnal form and it is directed to persons who will recon themselves.

Anyway thanks for your time, and i hope the next time we will speak, it will be of something else than people bashing eachothers.

NcDeuce
01-14-2004, 08:15 AM
All I gotta say is that the next Canadian who looks like ducimus that I see in the Fort Campbell-Clarksville area, I will personally kick your face in.

Someone would likely beat me to it though.

You are not an active-duty Infantry soldier, you are a Reservist...am I correct?

WARPIG
01-14-2004, 08:42 AM
TF160SOAR... shut up. Your ability to speak of military service and/or Canadians is at an Amateur standing at best.
Bad mouthing Canadians and Reservists because of the verbal diarrhea that dicamus19 spews on a daily basis is frigging novice.
I admire your patriotism and love the "gung-ho," but your not rated to speak on this stuff yet. Hang in there. You get the chance to chew some dirt with us and then you might have some credibility.

Jack Mehoff
01-14-2004, 09:17 AM
Ban him!?

What the f***!?

What happened to democracy and freedom of speech!?

You pricks are bunch of mother f*** hyporcrytes.

You're worse than him, at least he isn't trying to have someone banned for exersing their rights and stating their opinion! At least he is being mature about it!

f***, just knock it off, you have a problem with it, TOUGH ****! Go whine to your mommy's and daddy's about it you arrogent pre-pubesent kids.

Hold on numbnut, should i say that the dead Russian soldiers deserve to be humiliate since this is my opinion and freedom of speech, right? So **** YOU

I get it, fallen American soldiers are fair game.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7081&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0[/img]

Rantanplan
01-14-2004, 11:05 AM
C'mon Guys, lets do the Ska
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Salty Dog
01-14-2004, 11:12 AM
Ban him!?

What the f***!?

What happened to democracy and freedom of speech!?

You pricks are bunch of mother f*** hyporcrytes.

You're worse than him, at least he isn't trying to have someone banned for exersing their rights and stating their opinion! At least he is being mature about it!

f***, just knock it off, you have a problem with it, TOUGH ****! Go whine to your mommy's and daddy's about it you arrogent pre-pubesent kids.

hahahaha i can't beleive you talk about being mature and then say the thing you do. everyone is a hypocrit sometime.

RealUltimatePower
01-14-2004, 01:22 PM
Personally I feel that Ducimus is representing the Canadian Forces in a bad way by the things he's done here.
I'm a reservist just like him and I feel that one weekend a month and one night a week doesn't make us SOLDIERs in the same sense as the US marines, soldiers over in Iraq/Afghanistan/Phillipines/Gitmo etc.

Ducimus has the luxury of not having to protect his country from any threat or his own life and probably never will. Therefore he will never understand why people get so pissed here when he attacks US policy.
Politics are nice and dandy but they mean absolutly nothing to true soldiers whos only concern in serving their country and fighting the good fight.

I am grateful for what the US forces are doing and someday with a little luck I'll join them in this fight.

Jack Mehoff
01-14-2004, 01:36 PM
Its everyones right to have an opinion, if you may not like it thats your call. But critizing the opinion in mob mentality isnt exactly constructive, instead of having a productive converstation we end up with comments like.....
But if one of us walks into him someday in real life, I think he's gonna need a real good plastic surgeon
And
Use your f*** brain, if you have one.
If you cant say anything without starting to flame someone then dont say it at all.
Of course, those dead Yankees deserve no respect and must be humiliate unlike the Russian counterpart.

Using fallen American soldiers to promote your agenda is no different than using fallen Ruskie soldiers to promote a stupid game.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=111920&highlight=#111920

Thats a pretty low blow what they did. :cantbeli:

Nawlins
01-14-2004, 01:58 PM
Three things:

First, I find the poster extremely offensive, but I suppose he's entitled to his opinion.

Second, to those of you screaming about freedom of speech and democracy... we're playing in Hood's house, none of that stuff applies. We do what Hood says.

Third, to those of you discounting ducimus19's viewpoint just because he is a reservist... watch it. Reservists serve just as well and fight just as bravely as anyone else, and the way they are sometimes treated as second-class is complete bull****.

RealUltimatePower
01-14-2004, 02:10 PM
Well Nawlins perhaps that's true for American reservists however Ducimus is a Canadian Reservist.

SO am I.

The welfare training and lack of combat experience in the ranks makes us second class compared with US forces or Uk Forces.

Sure a couple of our boys have served in Boznia however that's not the same thing as serving in Tora Bora or the jungles of the Philipines.

papasmerf
01-14-2004, 02:57 PM
Bizarre, one gets 'beat' up for a political orientation. This sounds a lot like censorship to me, not to mention cold war era politics. Second, I never claimed to be a 'warrior' or the next pte. Lynch, I am simply an infantry reservist. I know what I am doing, and frankly, its laughable that I am threatened by 15 year old civilians over the internet.
http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/.Pictures/you.jpg

15 year old? I'm 18 in a month, and guess what? I can make you waive an American flag and sing I love Bush you punk.

Rantanplan
01-14-2004, 03:10 PM
rofl

NcDeuce
01-14-2004, 03:23 PM
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Operation Ivy
01-14-2004, 03:34 PM
These fourms are going to hell :(

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redhawk_six
01-14-2004, 03:40 PM
These fourms are going to hell :(

They were there a long time ago...

We should put in place an age limit, like 19+ to post, that would get rid of a lot of this BS.

Also, if I may say, I find Trigger's sig FAR worse than Dumicus'.

pAt
01-14-2004, 03:42 PM
These fourms are going to hell :(

They were there a long time ago...

We should put in place an age limit, like 19+ to post, that would get rid of a lot of this BS.

Also, if I may say, I find Trigger's sig FAR worse than Dumicus'.

lol omg its not about age its about maturity....

NcDeuce
01-14-2004, 03:44 PM
On a level of 1-10...10 being the worst

I give ducimus' sig an 8.

I give the asshole sig an 8.6


its not about age its about maturity....

You are the first member of the cool new mature OFFICIAL militaryphotos.net, Canadians will go through more harsh screening due to misc. parameters.

usa320
01-14-2004, 03:48 PM
The infantry soldier is attacked be steaming 15 year olds, oh no!


SO he finally admits what ive said all along. Dicmus is in fact a steaming, pizza faced 15 year old.

I think this punk causes 95% of the arguing on this forum. He doesnt make any contributions to it. All he does is post hate.

I FIND HIS SIG ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.

Dicmus makes the canadian armed forces look bad. He is disgraceful. He makes this forum a sloppy hellish **** size contest. All he does is post hate. I dont see anyone going around posting threads about how "poland sucks" or why "Japan should go **** itself".

I dont think Dicmus is mature enough to handle politics or war yet. Maybe after his reserve unit gets called up and he sees what hardships soldiers have to go through, then he will realize how distasteful and crude his sig is.

BAN HIM.

usa320
01-14-2004, 03:50 PM
its not about age its about maturity

so true.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
01-14-2004, 04:02 PM
I respect your opinion jack, but hes not try to sell video games. Hes try to express his opinion.

Sure the picture isnt exactly tastefull, but it express's his opinion and is free to do so.

You may not agree with it and thats cool. Just respectfully critize, not turn it into a useless flame war. If I wanted flame wars I'd be at Socnet right now... :cantbeli:

Midtown
01-14-2004, 04:43 PM
Heres my **** ing opinion

http://www.thouck.com/uf/gallery/****inmyass.jpg

dez000
01-14-2004, 04:56 PM
I have been reading trough this thread... and I agree that the sig is wrong (although he is the right to use it imo)... But the thing which has annoyed me the most is that guy named PT!

I only have on thing to say to him and that is "GROW UP!" Do you think you look smart when you make posts like these?


haha, get off your high chair, you just a silly little prick to us.

hahahaha rofl


Yeah, that little f*** head has gone too far.

PM hood about it... f***, get the little ugly prick banned.


I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win, I win rofl


These 2 are just hilarious!

Tell me are you in the army? Or even in the reserve? I don't think soo!

As a fellow Ofp modder I must say that i exspected to see a bit more maturity!


Your not a soldier, hahah...

Use your f*** brain, if you have one.


Yeah, hes a little reserve punk...

BTW: my sig rules

So plz.... when you reply to any other posts in this forum then plz for your own sake (cuz known your just making a fool out of yourself!) think before you press the submit button....

ibstolidude
01-14-2004, 05:02 PM
I respect your opinion jack, but hes not try to sell video games. Hes try to express his opinion.

Sure the picture isnt exactly tastefull, but it express's his opinion and is free to do so.

You may not agree with it and thats cool. Just respectfully critize, not turn it into a useless flame war. If I wanted flame wars I'd be at Socnet right now... :cantbeli:
no he is selling his ideas

He can and should sell his ideas even if others do not argee with them, but he should do it in a manner that is acceptable to the norm of the society in which he is in....in our society (a group of individuals formed with a commn purpose - military discussions) the norm is respect of dead soldiers, be they US or be they Russian (as the case was last week).
that is the price of doing business...

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
01-14-2004, 05:21 PM
I respect your opinion jack, but hes not try to sell video games. Hes try to express his opinion.

Sure the picture isnt exactly tastefull, but it express's his opinion and is free to do so.

You may not agree with it and thats cool. Just respectfully critize, not turn it into a useless flame war. If I wanted flame wars I'd be at Socnet right now... :cantbeli:
no he is selling his ideas

He can and should sell his ideas even if others do not argee with them, but he should do it in a manner that is acceptable to the norm of the society in which he is in....in our society (a group of individuals formed with a commn purpose - military discussions) the norm is respect of dead soldiers, be they US or be they Russian (as the case was last week).
that is the price of doing business...

In the case of Ibstolidude makes good points. Although I dont think hes trying to really sell his idea's hes just trying to get his point of view across...which isnt that the whole purpose of forums?

If only the rest of us could sit down and sort this out like adults....

Skaman
01-14-2004, 07:16 PM
Personally I feel that Ducimus is representing the Canadian Forces in a bad way by the things he's done here.
I'm a reservist just like him and I feel that one weekend a month and one night a week doesn't make us SOLDIERs in the same sense as the US marines, soldiers over in Iraq/Afghanistan/Phillipines/Gitmo etc.
What trade is your unit? My unit does not follow this similar trend you have laid down. Our exes and summer takings are often weeks and months. We have multiple weekends of training in Infantry tactics as well. Reservists often serve of seas for months. I think its sad you hold your OWN profession in such low regard. To shame.
Ducimus has the luxury of not having to protect his country from any threat or his own life and probably never will. Wrong. I was protecting my province this summer during intense wildfires. Homes were destroyed and lives were at stake. Firefighters are in constant danger, and a fellow firefighter simply fell in an ash pit and got 3rd degree burns up to his calves. On my mountain ops exercise, someone lost their footing and nearly fell to their death. I understand the danger, it comes with my job. I don’t see how you cant understand that. Therefore he will never understand why people get so pissed here when he attacks US policy.
Politics are nice and dandy but they mean absolutly nothing to true soldiers whos only concern in serving their country and fighting the good fight.

I am grateful for what the US forces are doing and someday with a little luck I'll join them in this fight. You are a poor Canadian soldier from the way you speak of our military and reserve contingent.

memphiz
01-14-2004, 07:21 PM
Wrong. I was protecting my province this summer during intense wildfires. Homes were destroyed and lives were at stake. Firefighters are in constant danger, and a fellow firefighter simply fell in an ash pit and got 3rd degree burns up to his calves.

thanks for the work you did this summer, you guys saved alot of houses and lives.

ShotOver
01-14-2004, 08:07 PM
Aaah well, somebody should make me a MOD, i'd show the Smackdown in here...

:bash:

:D

RealUltimatePower
01-14-2004, 09:03 PM
To answer your first question GGFG Primary Infantry regiment of the Canadian Reserve Forces. Ahem..

Obviously I do not include summer taskings or concentration excercises in what I posted because they are not mandatory training and therefore the vast majority of troops do not attend.

As an example of five platoons in the regiment we sent a platoon minus to Ex Stalwart Guardian this summer.

I do not hold my profession in a low regard. I figure that as a student it is the most I can do in the current situation to serve honorably.
HOWEVER, I do not go overboard in estimating our fighting capabilities. When comparing a Canadian infantry reserve soldier with say a US Marine or a Royal Marine there is a very big difference in proficiency in combat. They have practical experience in combat zones that is Afghanistan, Iraq, Philipines, Fawklands, Somolia, Liberia 97 not 03, etc.

Reserve soldiers for the most part have only been employed in the Balkans and Cyprus. And even then it's only been 7 from each res regiment deploying to augment regular forces.

Now I don't mean to say that those were useless experiences. However, those were peacekeeping ops and not combat ops. As you may be aware our current mission in Boznia is nothing short of a cakewalk. the war has long been over and ethnic violence is virtually gone.
Sitting on your ass in Zagreb is different from having to face fedayeen fighters and Republican guards in An Nasyria.


Wrong. I was protecting my province this summer during intense wildfires. Homes were destroyed and lives were at stake. Firefighters are in constant danger, and a fellow firefighter simply fell in an ash pit and got 3rd degree burns up to his calves. On my mountain ops exercise, someone lost their footing and nearly fell to their death. I understand the danger, it comes with my job. I don’t see how you cant understand that.

I have been to floods, icestorms, forest fires and all the likes in Canada.
However when I say threat I mean enemy forces intent on killing you and destroying your nation.

There is a grave difference between fighting a fire and fighting fundamentalists who believe that it is their gods will to kill you.
Fire has no inteligence, an enemy sneaking up on you about to slit your throat does. Hopefully you see the difference.

Comparing spending months in natural disasters to spending a year in a foreign land in combat there is a different level of danger. Your not going to be awarded a Victoria Cross for putting out flames.
3rd degree burns are bad but amputation by shrapnel or gunshot wounds are much worse trust me.

EvanL
01-14-2004, 09:33 PM
To answer your first question GGFG Primary Infantry regiment of the Canadian Reserve Forces. Ahem..

Obviously I do not include summer taskings or concentration excercises in what I posted because they are not mandatory training and therefore the vast majority of troops do not attend.

As an example of five platoons in the regiment we sent a platoon minus to Ex Stalwart Guardian this summer.

I do not hold my profession in a low regard. I figure that as a student it is the most I can do in the current situation to serve honorably.
HOWEVER, I do not go overboard in estimating our fighting capabilities. When comparing a Canadian infantry reserve soldier with say a US Marine or a Royal Marine there is a very big difference in proficiency in combat. They have practical experience in combat zones that is Afghanistan, Iraq, Philipines, Fawklands, Somolia, Liberia 97 not 03, etc.

Reserve soldiers for the most part have only been employed in the Balkans and Cyprus. And even then it's only been 7 from each res regiment deploying to augment regular forces.

Now I don't mean to say that those were useless experiences. However, those were peacekeeping ops and not combat ops. As you may be aware our current mission in Boznia is nothing short of a cakewalk. the war has long been over and ethnic violence is virtually gone.
Sitting on your ass in Zagreb is different from having to face fedayeen fighters and Republican guards in An Nasyria.


Wrong. I was protecting my province this summer during intense wildfires. Homes were destroyed and lives were at stake. Firefighters are in constant danger, and a fellow firefighter simply fell in an ash pit and got 3rd degree burns up to his calves. On my mountain ops exercise, someone lost their footing and nearly fell to their death. I understand the danger, it comes with my job. I don’t see how you cant understand that.

I have been to floods, icestorms, forest fires and all the likes in Canada.
However when I say threat I mean enemy forces intent on killing you and destroying your nation.

There is a grave difference between fighting a fire and fighting fundamentalists who believe that it is their gods will to kill you.
Fire has no inteligence, an enemy sneaking up on you about to slit your throat does. Hopefully you see the difference.

Comparing spending months in natural disasters to spending a year in a foreign land in combat there is a different level of danger. Your not going to be awarded a Victoria Cross for putting out flames.
3rd degree burns are bad but amputation by shrapnel or gunshot wounds are much worse trust me.
What about the battle of Medak Pocket? That was all reservists fighting man.

stateofequilibrium
01-14-2004, 09:36 PM
Good lord.

Point 1) Freedom of speech and entitlement to their own opinion.

Point 2) That is a highly offensive poster, but see Point 1

Point 3) This is a private board and point 1 doesn't apply. If the administrators and/or owner of this board deems it inappropriate then off it goes. Or on it stays.

Jack Mehoff
01-14-2004, 09:51 PM
Good lord.

Point 1) Freedom of speech and entitlement to their own opinion.

Point 2) That is a highly offensive poster, but see Point 1

Point 3) This is a private board and point 1 doesn't apply. If the administrators and/or owner of this board deems it inappropriate then off it goes. Or on it stays.

Point 1)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7081&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

usa320
01-14-2004, 10:22 PM
http://www.thouck.com/uf/gallery/****inmyass.jpg


rofl

well done if ya ask me.

Midtown
01-14-2004, 11:25 PM
thank you.

James
01-14-2004, 11:37 PM
Does anyone interpret Ducimus' sig as portraying soldiers as victims? I really didn't find it that disrespectful to our men and women in uniform.
Just curious.

Haiw
01-14-2004, 11:38 PM
Read trough 4 pages of flaming and you would have found out I did...

James
01-14-2004, 11:39 PM
Read trough 4 pages of flaming and you would have found out I did...

I think I was blinded by the rage. My apologies.

Haiw
01-14-2004, 11:42 PM
No problem. It's hard to see trough all the fire...

papasmerf
01-15-2004, 01:02 AM
http://www.thouck.com/uf/gallery/****inmyass.jpg


rofl

well done if ya ask me.

LMFAO rofl rofl Oh man that's gold... lol!

RealUltimatePower
01-15-2004, 07:52 AM
Yes let's talk about the Medak pocket shall we. The ops officer for my reg was there and he was RCR. There were undoubtedly reservists there as I said before they were deployed WITH reg force units to augment them.

However let's look at the stats on that battle. No dead Canadians and 27 dead Croats. Not exactly what would be called a LARGE SCALE warfighting operation. Not to play down its signifigance it is an important part of Canadian history.

But also for the most part the Peacekeepers did not use force to expel the croats. They used force when they were fired upon but not when they knew there was a mass murder going on over the hill. This isn't their fault UN jurisdictions prevented them from doing that.

Eventually it took the Canadian commander puclicly announcing that the Croats were stalling in their withdrawl to carry out a clean up operation of a genocide.

And what was the end result of sitting by and watching, hundreds of dead and burned muslim civilians.
So although there was some combat there it was mainly when Canadians moving into the area were fired upon. In the end though all we found at those villiages was death and my cousin who was there went insane with the knowledge that they could have prevented it if they had used armed force in the first place to push the croats out. This UN policy of sending troops to foreign lands to simply watch and not intervene was eventually the downfall of the UNPROFOR mission and that's why today SFOR and NATO are in Boznia.