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FR. CONNEXION
01-14-2004, 11:57 AM
Hello has all. I makes you this post to ask you for your opinion on the Caesar. Of the artillery french very éfficace according to numerous newspapers. During a demonstration for the school of artillery of Fort Sill the Americans said to (you): you gave us a lecon of artillery! Forgive me for my Englishman and the spelling mistakes. woot

Operation Ivy
01-14-2004, 02:45 PM
Never herd of it :( can we have some pictures :D

fantassin
01-14-2004, 02:59 PM
It's true the US Army has expressed a lot of interest for that system but it's highly unlikely they'll buy French weapons anytime soon...the French Army will receive 72 of those artillery pieces.

To know more, look there;

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/caesar/

DE_Six
01-14-2004, 03:04 PM
The Cesar is a SP gun, but it's not armored, like the M-109. It's basically a lightweight 155mm/55-calibre mounted on a flatbed truck.
The main advantage over traditional SP is that it is highly mobile on road and flat terrain (wheels faster than tracks). It displays good off-road mobility for a truck, though not quite on par with a tracked vehicle.
It is also easier to deploy, as you can load more of them in a single airplane and once on the ground, they can use the road network to reach their objectives. Think of it as a self-propelled towed gun.
Since France introduced the Cesar, many countries like Singapore and South Africa turned up their own version. The USMC displayed interest in the Cesar, it was demonstrated at Camp Lejeune last year, IIRC. It has one of the longest barrel (55 times its calibre), so it has a great range. It's perfect fro rapid deployment forces.
However, it provides no protection for the crew against counter-battery fire, NBC or direct attacks. It's still just a truck.
The US Army has a similar project involving an XM-777 lightweight gun mounted on a Stryker chassis. Heavier, but armored. It was considered after the Crusader SP was scrapped.

Caesar
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/caesar/images/caesar6.jpg

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/caesar/index.html

Xm777 UFH
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/ufh/images/ufh4.jpg

DE_Six
01-14-2004, 03:05 PM
Dang! You beat me to it! :P

Uncle Chô
01-14-2004, 03:13 PM
The CAESAR official web site : http://www.caesartillery.com/

Another link from the GIAT (the gun manufacturer).Does include a small video.
http://www.giat-industries.fr/asp/us/prod_caesar.asp

http://www.giat-industries.fr/images/img_prod/3vi_sdp_caesar_1.jpg http://www.giat-industries.fr/images/img_prod/3vi_sdp_caesar_3.jpg http://www.giat-industries.fr/images/img_prod/3vi_sdp_caesar_4.jpg

This system was inspired by the mighty Czech Dana wheeled artillery. Looks strange but it is state of the art.

The main priorities are cost efficiency, easy maintenance and mobility.

seventy6er
01-14-2004, 03:16 PM
Concerning SP-artillery, I only got one word: PzH2000 (http://www.ets-news.com/Panzer.htm).

Uncle Chô
01-14-2004, 03:35 PM
Concerning SP-artillery, I only got one word: PzH2000 (http://www.ets-news.com/Panzer.htm).
Ich bin damit einverstanden aber... wir sprechen über Flugtransport mit C-130 Hercules ;)

The PzH2000 is with no doubt the best SP artillery system in the world but the CAESAR is a different concept : it must be deployed overseas by tactical transport airplanes like the C-130 or A400M.

Operation Ivy
01-14-2004, 03:36 PM
Wow those are big :D

mustamato
01-14-2004, 03:42 PM
Reminds me little of the swedish FH 77B put on a armoured truck (those that are used in the forests to chop down trees). But this is obviously not designed to be as light, and movable with transport aircraft as the Ceasar.

http://www.artreg.mil.se/images/local/dumpersida.jpg