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webfoots
01-14-2004, 08:45 PM
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U.S. Pilot Detained in Brazil in Fingerprint Spat

SAO PAULO, Brazil (*******) - An American Airlines pilot was arrested at Sao Paulo International Airport on Wednesday after making an obscene gesture while being photographed by Brazilian immigration officers, police said.

The pilot, identified as Dale Robin Hirsch, raised his middle finger at police to protest new Brazilian security measures that require U.S. citizens to be fingerprinted and photographed upon entering the South American country.


Brazil implemented the policy on Jan. 1 in retaliation for a similar U.S. program that requires those foreign visitors who need visas to have their fingerprints and pictures taken on arrival in the United States.


"He made an internationally known obscene gesture when he was being photographed by the Federal Police," Federal Police agent Wagner Castilho told *******. He said the other crew members were denied entry after refusing to cooperate with security officials.


The incident came just one day after Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva personally appealed to President Bush to suspend visa requirements for each other's nationals and thus fingerprint checks.


Lula's request was expected to fall on deaf ears in Washington. Brazilians are among the top groups of illegal immigrants detained in the United States.


Castilho said the pilot will be charged with disobeying authority. A judge will decide whether Hirsch, 52, will be deported or tried in Brazil, Castilho added.


The remaining 11 members of the Miami-based crew were expected to be returned to the United States.


A spokesman in Sao Paulo for American Airlines said the carrier "respects the laws of the countries in which it operates," but declined further comment.


U.S. citizens have been subject to long lines at Brazilian airports since the new security measures were implemented, prompting Secretary of State Colin Powell to complain that Americans were being discriminated against.


Eager to speed up the process, Brazil on Wednesday rushed to gather digital fingerprint readers from police stations across the country. Officials said they will be ready by Thursday to register U.S. visitors in "30 seconds" rather than the hours it takes with an inkpad.


With Rio de Janeiro's famous Carnival coming in February, the city is worried about the impact on tourism. It has taken to handing out roses and "Rio Loves You" T-shirts to U.S. visitors and on Wednesday laid on hip-wriggling Samba dancers at its airport arrival gate.

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mustamato
01-14-2004, 09:01 PM
Now he knows how the brazilians feel :D

usa320
01-14-2004, 09:09 PM
See the difference is we do it as a good security measure. To all but 20 nations now, and by october, every forgeign national entering the US.

The brazilians however do it for the sole purpose of annoying americans. They dont do it for security, they do it to humiliate our people.

mustamato
01-14-2004, 09:45 PM
See the difference is we do it as a good security measure. To all but 20 nations now, and by october, every forgeign national entering the US.

The brazilians however do it for the sole purpose of annoying americans. They dont do it for security, they do it to humiliate our people.

Well, if we look at the statistics USA actually has the most convicts per capita. That could be the result of two things, either a well funded law enforcment or simply high crime rates, personally I think it is a combination of course. So what says that the brazilians doesnīt do it for protecting themselfes?

usa320
01-14-2004, 10:17 PM
The USA also has about forty times as many people as brazil.

:cantbeli:

Andrekid
01-14-2004, 10:21 PM
We do this to protect us of dangerous people that enter in Brazil. and now the north-american know how is a humiliated and identificated as a risk group

Andrekid
01-14-2004, 10:24 PM
USA320 do you know what "per capita" meaning???
When we put this term, the number of persons in that population donīt affect, this is a statistic's term that you can use to compare two population that have different number of persons

Seiyuuki
01-15-2004, 12:20 AM
It is understanderable for the Brazilian to adopt the finger printing policy for various security concerns. Though if they are adopting this policy just to be spiteful toward the American's policy, then that is just...wrong. The U.S. is finger printing citizens of numerous countries, they are not singularing out just Brazilians' citizens, yet Brazil seem to be just targeting U.S. citizens.


"I consider the act absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis."

They criticized the American's finger printing as inhuman and on par with Nazis' atrocities...yet, their response is to mimic the U.S's policy.

Guttorm
01-15-2004, 02:16 AM
Well, I think it F'ing funny, someone in Brazil has a good sense of humor. :D

martinexsquaddie
01-15-2004, 05:14 PM
yeah I think the rest of the world should start fingerprinting americans when they visit hey they come form the most heavily armed place on the planet :lol:
and irish americans get the finger woot we know those sods backed international terrorists