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Uncle Chô
01-15-2004, 12:17 PM
Remember "Maverick" in Top Gun explaining to "Charlie" how he was communicating, keeping up foreing relations with a "MIG-28" pilot ? :D


U.S. Pilot Held in Brazil in Fingerprinting Spat
Wed January 14, 2004 08:50 PM ET

By Todd Benson

SAO PAULO, Brazil (*******) - An American Airlines pilot was arrested at Sao Paulo International Airport on Wednesday after making an obscene gesture while being photographed by Brazilian immigration officers, police said.

The pilot, Dale Robin Hirsch, raised his middle finger at police while undergoing recently introduced Brazilian security measures that require U.S. citizens to be fingerprinted and photographed upon entering the South American country.

Local media said the 52-year-old pilot was fined 36,000 reais ($12,775) and released, but his passport was confiscated pending receipt of the payment. American Airlines had agreed to pay, they reported.

Brazil's decision to implement the policy on Jan. 1 in retaliation for a similar U.S. program to fingerprint and photograph visitors who need visas for the United States has soured relations between the two countries.

"He (Hirsch) behaved in a mocking manner toward federal police and made an internationally recognized obscene gesture while he was being photographed for identification," Sao Paulo State's federal police chief, Francisco Baltazar da Silva told reporters.

Ten crew members from the same American Airlines flight 907 from Miami were also denied entry to Brazil after refusing to cooperate with security officials. They were waiting in the airport for a return flight to the United States, police said.

American Airlines said it regretted the incident.

"The company apologizes to the Brazilian government, the airport authorities, the police, or anyone else who perceived anything they believed to have been disrespectful," the airline said in a statement. "The captain and other crew members certainly meant no disrespect."

AMERICANS SUFFER LONG LINES

The incident came a day after Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva appealed to President Bush to suspend visa requirements so the two countries could drop the fingerprint checks.

Brazilians are among the top groups of illegal immigrants detained in the United States

U.S. citizens have been subjected to long lines at Brazilian airports since the new security measures were implemented, prompting Secretary of State Colin Powell to complain that Americans were being discriminated against.

Eager to speed up the process, Brazil on Wednesday rushed to gather digital fingerprint readers from police stations across the country. Officials said they will be ready by Thursday to register U.S. visitors in "30 seconds" rather than the hours it takes with an inkpad.

With Rio de Janeiro's famous Carnival coming in February, the city is worried about the impact on tourism. It has taken to handing out roses and "Rio Loves You" T-shirts to U.S. visitors and on Wednesday laid on hip-wiggling Samba dancers at its airport arrival gate.

(Additional reporting by Andrew Hay in Brasilia, and Eduardo Simoes in Sao Paulo)

Seraphim
01-15-2004, 12:24 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=118736#118736


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TriggerPuller
01-15-2004, 06:42 PM
He is just letting the Brazilians know that they are # 1. That guy deserves a medal!!!

TP

ibstolidude
01-15-2004, 07:34 PM
that dude rocks!!

Dmitri
01-15-2004, 07:40 PM
Thats pretty funny, way to go!!!

UkrainianAmerican
01-15-2004, 07:50 PM
WTF?
They held him and charged him 12 grand for expressing his views?
How about we place all the brazilians arriving on US soil (including the pilots in gitmo for a week?
Motherf*ckers :bash:

ibstolidude
01-15-2004, 07:58 PM
GITMO!!!

:lol:

Hey it just might happen

NcDeuce
01-15-2004, 09:33 PM
I say we conquer Brazil in the name of Spain.

Haiw
01-15-2004, 09:37 PM
Brazil was the Portugese...

army cadet_ngcsu
01-15-2004, 10:42 PM
God, if only I had the money to pay that man's fine and give him even more money to go back to Brazil and do it again!!!

One?
01-15-2004, 11:18 PM
WTF?
They held him and charged him 12 grand for expressing his views?
How about we place all the brazilians arriving on US soil (including the pilots in gitmo for a week?
Motherf*ckers :bash:

rofl

didn't the US start the whole fingerprinting thing? What gives the US the right to finger print people. And when other countries fingerprint americans they go nuts.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
01-16-2004, 02:19 AM
didn't the US start the whole fingerprinting thing? What gives the US the right to finger print people. And when other countries fingerprint americans they go nuts.

I was just going to say the same thing......
Give it two weeks and they'll do the same to a Brazillian on US shores.

Seiyuuki
01-16-2004, 02:58 AM
WTF?
They held him and charged him 12 grand for expressing his views?
How about we place all the brazilians arriving on US soil (including the pilots in gitmo for a week?
Motherf*ckers :bash:

rofl

didn't the US start the whole fingerprinting thing? What gives the US the right to finger print people. And when other countries fingerprint americans they go nuts.



didn't the US start the whole fingerprinting thing? What gives the US the right to finger print people. And when other countries fingerprint americans they go nuts.

I was just going to say the same thing......
Give it two weeks and they'll do the same to a Brazillian on US shores.

:cantbeli: :cantbeli:

I said it a million times and I will say it again...

The U.S. does not single out Brazil, there are about 20 countries or so that are on the fingerprinting list. There is legitimate national's security concern for adopting the policy and to satisfy their paranoia, which is understanble. If Brazil accept such a policy for its own legitimate national's security concern, there would hardly be any uproar, BUT Brazil is implementing the same policy and singling out just U.S.'s citizen as a matter of spite.


"I consider the act absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis."

(Copy and Paste)They criticized the U.S.'s fingerprinting as inhuman and on par with Nazis' atrocities...yet, their response is to mimic the U.S's policy. I find it difficult to respect such a hyprocite.

TRACER_BULLET
01-16-2004, 04:07 AM
He is just letting the Brazilians know that they are # 1. That guy deserves a medal!!!

TP

hahahaha I was thinking the same thing ... thats the metod i use to show other people how much i like their driving skills p-)


I say we conquer Brazil in the name of Spain.


Brazil was the Portugese...

OMG !!

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

UkrainianAmerican
01-16-2004, 09:36 AM
WTF?
They held him and charged him 12 grand for expressing his views?
How about we place all the brazilians arriving on US soil (including the pilots in gitmo for a week?
Motherf*ckers :bash:

rofl

didn't the US start the whole fingerprinting thing? What gives the US the right to finger print people. And when other countries fingerprint americans they go nuts.
YOu misunderstood me. :cantbeli:
THe reason I am angry is not because they photographed him, but because they robbed him of 12 grand just for expressing his views.

Seoulstriker
01-16-2004, 11:41 AM
brazil is so immature. :backhand:

i don't think brazil needs to worry about terrorism. :roll:

MolliG
01-16-2004, 12:01 PM
i don't think brazil needs to worry about terrorism. :roll:

Everyone needs to 'worry' about terrorism :roll: :). Plus...

... unruly region at convergence of Argentina-Brazil-Paraguay borders is locus of money laundering, smuggling, arms and drug trafficking, and harbors Islamist militants; uncontested dispute with Uruguay over certain islands in the Quarai/Cuareim and Invernada boundary streams and the resulting tripoint with Argentina.

:|

TriggerPuller
01-16-2004, 12:11 PM
He is an Airline Pilot whose creds have already been checked. He is not some visiting foreign national that is on the terrorist watch list. Why the hell does he have to fingerprinted for? A-holes

TP

Maciek
01-18-2004, 10:56 AM
I said it a million times and I will say it again...

The U.S. does not single out Brazil, there are about 20 countries or so that are on the fingerprinting list. There is legitimate national's security concern for adopting the policy and to satisfy their paranoia, which is understanble. If Brazil accept such a policy for its own legitimate national's security concern, there would hardly be any uproar, BUT Brazil is implementing the same policy and singling out just U.S.'s citizen as a matter of spite.



There are 27 countries thet are not on the fingerprinting list