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stephane from Paris
01-16-2004, 12:30 PM
Women in Iraq Decry Decision To Curb Rights
Council Backs Islamic Law on Families
By Pamela Constable
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, January 16, 2004; Page A12


BAGHDAD, Jan. 15 -- For the past four decades, Iraqi women have enjoyed some of the most modern legal protections in the Muslim world, under a civil code that prohibits marriage below the age of 18, arbitrary divorce and male favoritism in child custody and property inheritance disputes.




Saddam Hussein's dictatorship did not touch those rights. But the U.S.-backed Iraqi Governing Council has voted to wipe them out, ordering in late December that family laws shall be "canceled" and such issues placed under the jurisdiction of strict Islamic legal doctrine known as sharia.

This week, outraged Iraqi women -- from judges to cabinet ministers -- denounced the decision in street protests and at conferences, saying it would set back their legal status by centuries and could unleash emotional clashes among various Islamic strains that have differing rules for marriage, divorce and other family issues.

"This will send us home and shut the door, just like what happened to women in Afghanistan," said Amira Hassan Abdullah, a Kurdish lawyer who spoke at a protest meeting Thursday. Some Islamic laws, she noted, allow men to divorce their wives on the spot.

"The old law wasn't perfect, but this one would make Iraq a jungle," she said. "Iraqi women will accept it over their dead bodies."

The order, narrowly approved by the 25-member council in a closed-door session Dec. 29, was reportedly sponsored by conservative Shiite members. The order is now being opposed by several liberal members as well as by senior women in the Iraqi government.

The council's decisions must be approved by L. Paul Bremer, the chief U.S. administrator in Iraq, and aides said unofficially that his imprimatur for this change was unlikely. But experts here said that once U.S. officials turn over political power to Iraqis at the end of June, conservative forces could press ahead with their agenda to make sharia the supreme law. Spokesmen for Bremer did not respond to requests for comment Thursday.

"It was the secret way this was done that is such a shock," said Nasreen Barawi, a woman who is Iraq's minister for social welfare and public service. "Iraq is a multiethnic society with many different religious schools. Such a sweeping decision should be made over time, with an opportunity for public dialogue." There is no immediate threat of the decision becoming law, Barawi said, "but after June 30, who knows what can happen?"

In interviews at several meetings and protests, women noted that even during the politically repressive Hussein era, women had been allowed to assume a far more modern role than in many other Muslim countries and had been shielded from some of the more egregiously unfair interpretations of Islam advocated by conservative, male-run Muslim groups.

Once Hussein was toppled, several women noted wryly, they hoped the new authorities would further liberalize family law. Instead, in the process of wiping old laws off the books, they said, Islamic conservatives on the Governing Council are trying to impose retrograde views of women on a chaotic postwar society.

Although it remained unclear which members of the council had promoted the shift of family issues from civil to religious jurisprudence, the decision was made and formalized while Abdul Aziz Hakim, a Shiite Muslim who heads the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, was chairing the council under a rotating leadership system.

This week, several moderate council members spoke strongly against the decision in public forums, calling it a threat to both civilized progress and national unity. Nasir Chaderchi, a lawyer and council member who heads the National Democratic Party, criticized the council's action at a professional women's meeting Thursday. "We don't want to be isolated from modern developments," Chaderchi told the gathering of the Iraqi Independent Women's Group. "What hurts most is that the law of the tyrant Saddam was more modern than this new law." He said he hoped women would continue to protest until the order was reversed.

The council's new policy decree was brief and vague, mentioning neither particular family issues nor individual branches of Islamic law that would replace current civil law. But lawyers and other experts from Iraqi women's groups said the ambiguity of the decision was especially worrisome, since rival Islamic sects in Iraq espouse different policies for women's legal and marital rights.

Some critics said the proposed law might exacerbate tensions between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, already divided over other power-sharing issues in postwar Iraq, and could even destroy families that have intermarried between the two strains of Islam. Under Hussein, they said, the universal application of civil family law prevented such issues from sparking sectarian strife.

Zakia Ismael Hakki, a female retired judge and outspoken opponent of the new order, said Thursday that since 1959, civil family law had been developed and amended under a series of secular governments to give women a "half-share in society" and an opportunity to advance as individuals, no matter what their religion.

"This new law will send Iraqi families back to the Middle Ages," Hakki said. "It will allow men to have four or five or six wives. It will take away children from their mothers. It will allow anyone who calls himself a cleric to open an Islamic court in his house and decide about who can marry and divorce and have rights. We have to stop it."

I quote:

Is there any guy who still beleive that new Irak is better for Peace?
If (and it's on the way) shiit religious party take the leadership we 'll see the rise of a new Iran, so good news!!???????

He219
01-16-2004, 12:40 PM
STFU!

Conditions for civilians immediately after WWII were worse for Germans, Japanese and British than during the war. It takes time and effort to restore and rebuild.

To say that Saddam shouldn't have been removed because of difficulties in the immediate post-war situation shows exactly the kind of person you are and is an insult to all those persecuted under Saddam's tenure.

Instead of bitching, do something constructive for them.

:bash:

usa320
01-16-2004, 01:39 PM
I agree that womens rights are important in post-war iraq, but i also realize that it will take time to reform them to how they should be.

I dont thik this should be manipulated in an effort to make Saddam look good or make the Coalition look bad.

Falco
01-16-2004, 03:29 PM
STFU!

Conditions for civilians immediately after WWII were worse for Germans, Japanese and British than during the war. It takes time and effort to restore and rebuild.

To say that Saddam shouldn't have been removed because of difficulties in the immediate post-war situation shows exactly the kind of person you are and is an insult to all those persecuted under Saddam's tenure.

Instead of bitching, do something constructive for them.

:bash:

Still this ban on women's right is uncalled for.

stephane from Paris
01-17-2004, 05:17 AM
You don't want to understand the current and the future situation:
Sadam was a tyran and he oppressed his people WITH the close eyes of Western countries!
1 years ago Irak wasn't a menace for OUR safety!
Now Irak will be a menace if religious party close to Iran ones controls the government!
Where is the Freedom for most of people in this future? The christians (who begin to leave the place)? the women rights? The Democracy???????

The goals of this war was WMD (what a bull****), terrorists menace (what a bull****) and.....Iraki freedom!! You'll see what appens! The Sha of Iran was a dictator too and he oppressed his people too, he was replace by religious, we all know what appens after!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mustamato
01-17-2004, 06:37 AM
I read that in Afghanistan Kabul Television had a music video with a women in it, they got a motherload of angry protesters on their neck, so now itīs only men again. USA/ISAF is not doing much about it, so when they leave it will be back to burqas for the women again.

http://homepage2.nifty.com/asiana/column/burqa.jpg
Afghani women in traditional Burqas