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perdurabo
08-10-2005, 09:05 AM
Today another Polish diplomat was assaulted in Moscow. It is second Polish diplomat and third Polish ambassy worker assaulted in Moscow! now who will say that Poles have some complex towards Russia?

Igor01
08-10-2005, 09:46 AM
The Russian authorities should investigate and prosecute the attackers. I hope this idiocy stops, the last thing both our countries need is more animosity.

Stormz_STA
08-10-2005, 10:21 AM
The Russian authorities should investigate and prosecute the attackers. I hope this idiocy stops, the last thing both our countries need is more animosity.

x2

I really hope this thread will not turn into a flamewar.
Maybe mods should consider locking it.

)I(EHbKA.
08-10-2005, 10:41 AM
These incidents happened after Russian children were beaten in Poland

Igor01
08-10-2005, 11:26 AM
These incidents happened after Russian children were beaten in Poland

Whatever happened to the Russian kids in Poland cannot and should not be used as a justification for attacking Poles in Russia.

Marmot1
08-10-2005, 01:08 PM
These incidents happened after Russian children were beaten in Poland

Whatever happened to the Russian kids in Poland cannot and should not be used as a justification for attacking Poles in Russia.

Exactly, it seems that Polish diplomats are targeted on purpose in Moscow now.

perdurabo
08-10-2005, 01:14 PM
i start to think that this whole case of russian children was used by Putin to stir the ****. Attacks started not after this attack on russian children but afther Puting making conference about this :roll:

Igor01
08-10-2005, 01:24 PM
Exactly, it seems that Polish diplomats are targeted on purpose in Moscow now.

If the attacks are intentional hate-crimes, the perpetrators should be prosecuted accordingly (hate-crime conviction carries a harsher punishment).

The Polish embassy's reaction is balanced and cool, they said they don't intend to send another note to the Russian authorities but instead would like to "figure out" what is happening.

Zielony
08-10-2005, 02:09 PM
These incidents happened after Russian children were beaten in Poland

yes... but it was a robbery, few idiots that didn't even finisched primary school... even if it was a kind of hate crime you should know what to expect from people like this... just idiots

pozdr

)I(EHbKA.
08-10-2005, 02:34 PM
I am not saying that what they did is correct, of course not

WolverineBlue
08-10-2005, 02:42 PM
Admit it -- Poles and Russians really really love each other ;)

mack pl
08-10-2005, 02:55 PM
Admit it -- Poles and Russians really really love each other ;)

hell yeah, just take a look at our history, we are like brothers :lol:

Son_Of_Suvorov
08-10-2005, 03:10 PM
You people are so negative! If we work together, we can make something constructive out of this situation, and make a load of cash at the same time. What I am proposing, of course, is a no-holds-barred, bare-knuckle cage fighting tournament between invited Polish and Russian skinhead teams. Then they can work out their differences constructively and come to a common understanding, while I pocket the proceeds from venue seating and PPV rights.

Here's a link (http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/21/96/383/15904_Poland.html) to the story about the Polish skinheads and Russian and Kazakhstan diplomats' children. Apparently the Polish guys were just on a routine mugging and decided to give the kids a few extra kicks to the head after they found out where they were from. So I guess you shouldn't go to Poland for the night-life unless brain trauma is your idea of a good time. :D

WolverineBlue
08-10-2005, 03:13 PM
My money's on Lokomotiv supporters

mack pl
08-10-2005, 03:14 PM
But none of them stuck up for the children


...typical peoples reacation..."its not my business blah blah" :roll:

pathfinder82
08-10-2005, 03:17 PM
The Russian authorities should investigate and prosecute the attackers. I hope this idiocy stops, the last thing both our countries need is more animosity.

x2

I really hope this thread will not turn into a flamewar.
Maybe mods should consider locking it.


You notice it started right after your post. :|

perdurabo
08-10-2005, 03:18 PM
You people are so negative! If we work together, we can make something constructive out of this situation, and make a load of cash at the same time. What I am proposing, of course, is a no-holds-barred, bare-knuckle cage fighting tournament between invited Polish and Russian skinhead teams. Then they can work out their differences constructively and come to a common understanding, while I pocket the proceeds from venue seating and PPV rights.

Here's a link (http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/21/96/383/15904_Poland.html) to the story about the Polish skinheads and Russian and Kazakhstan diplomats' children. Apparently the Polish guys were just on a routine mugging and decided to give the kids a few extra kicks to the head after they found out where they were from. So I guess you shouldn't go to Poland for the night-life unless brain trauma is your idea of a good time. :D
thats briliant idea! i think that cage should be placed in chernobyl :lol:
My money on our Mlodzierz Wszechpolska (AllPolish Youth litle damn nazis)
BTW we send our president you send your judo master too - our will be fighting in drunkenmsumo style :lol:

Marmot1
08-10-2005, 03:39 PM
You people are so negative! If we work together, we can make something constructive out of this situation, and make a load of cash at the same time. What I am proposing, of course, is a no-holds-barred, bare-knuckle cage fighting tournament between invited Polish and Russian skinhead teams. Then they can work out their differences constructively and come to a common understanding, while I pocket the proceeds from venue seating and PPV rights.

Here's a link (http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/21/96/383/15904_Poland.html) to the story about the Polish skinheads and Russian and Kazakhstan diplomats' children. Apparently the Polish guys were just on a routine mugging and decided to give the kids a few extra kicks to the head after they found out where they were from. So I guess you shouldn't go to Poland for the night-life unless brain trauma is your idea of a good time. :D

From your link:


A group of skinheads attacked Russian schoolchildren aged 16 to 17 at approximately 9 p.m. local time in Warsaw two days ago. The incident took place very late at night in one of the city's parks. The teenagers were going back home from a movie theatre when a bus stopped nearby. Fifteen skinheads got off the bus quickly. The leader aged 25-27 especially stood out

First of all atack was on 6:30 PM but was reported to Police at 9:30 PM by embassy worker not by victims or their legal guardians. It's why noone was detained becouse Police was informd 3 hours AFTER incident.

Hard to tell that 9PM is late at night in Warsaw not to mention 6:30PM when this incident took place. So your source only repeated rumor bull**** spread around by someone who intends to hurt polish-rusian relations.


The schoolchildren, of whom there were three boys from Russia and one from Kazakhstan, received brain concussion and are at the hospital at the moment. Investigators hope that they will be able to answer some questions in the nearest future.

Children were examined by MSW hospital staff and were released since no brain concussion was detected. Only one broken teeth and some minor scratches that were treated in hospital ER room. Note that MSW (Ministry of Internal Affairs) hospital is best equipped hospital in Warsaw and with best staff (all polish VIPs are treated there including PM and parliament members as well as other goverment officials.)

So it's another bull**** in this article since childeren after brief examination were released home and were not in hospital, nor suffered brain concussion .


About two years ago the youth branch of the Nazi movement "Self Defense" ("Samoobrona") was formed. By different estimates it incorporates many thousands of young people, thoroughly selected. According to those who left "Self Defense", the idols of the movement were Stalin, Hitler, Ceausescu, and Franco. The "Self Defense" leader, Andrzej Lepper, might well have pretensions of a sort of a Polish "Fuhrer."

LOL Samoobrona (Selfdefense) is political party and it groups mainly farmers and workers, although its leader is nuts (he claimed we have secret Talibs base in one fo Polish farms rofl ) it is nowhere close to Nazi movement, they organize roadblocks and farmer protests and their MP's are know to be one of "brightest retards" betwen or MP's. There is however other political party that has it's own youth movement which might be considered right winged but not nazi Above quote only shows that author of this article has "ZERO" knowledge about Polish politics and based his article on rumors not facts...

MichaelF
08-10-2005, 04:15 PM
It wasnt Russians who beat the Polish diplomat.


It was German provocateurs!

nagant_m44
08-10-2005, 04:31 PM
Admit it -- Poles and Russians really really love each other ;)

hell yeah, just take a look at our history, we are like brothers :lol:


x22222222222 ;)

WolverineBlue
08-10-2005, 04:41 PM
It wasnt Russians who beat the Polish diplomat.


It was German provocateurs!

rofl

Zielony
08-10-2005, 05:06 PM
DAMNnn Germans...

Holycrusader
08-10-2005, 06:00 PM
LOL Samoobrona (Selfdefense) is political party and it groups mainly farmers and workers, although its leader is nuts (he claimed we have secret Talibs base in one fo Polish farms rofl ) it is nowhere close to Nazi movement, they organize roadblocks and farmer protests and their MP's are know to be one of "brightest retards" betwen or MP's. There is however other political party that has it's own youth movement which might be considered right winged but not nazi Above quote only shows that author of this article has "ZERO" knowledge about Polish politics and based his article on rumors not facts...

True true

Pravda report was little bit sensational

But Lepper is some kind of Fuhrer :) He is a little bit authoritarian leader - stupid one :oops:
As to the other party (you mean LPR as I presume) they are rightwinged bastards and they youth organization Mlodziez wszechpolska are very close to Nazi skinheads movement. Maybe they are not Hitler fans, but they are antisemitic, antigay, raccist mob.

But Russia have their own problem with rightwinged nationalistic retards so maybe we should give them weapon and organize them meeting far from civilization. Its a win win situation for both sides. Less stupid people in both societys...

Drunkensquid
08-10-2005, 08:08 PM
it was not russian lowlifes but CIA agents who beat up those Poles in moscow :cantbeli:

Drunkensquid
08-10-2005, 08:11 PM
Admit it -- Poles and Russians really really love each other ;)

hell yeah, just take a look at our history, we are like brothers :lol:


x22222222222 ;)

in a very disfunctional family rofl where the bigger retarded brother frequently beats up the younger, nicer, smarter one. And he would often call the neighbours kid Heinz to help him beat on his own brother.

Mr.K
08-10-2005, 08:16 PM
and that " bigger retarded brother' was the 1st in the world to send a man to space.

Drunkensquid
08-10-2005, 08:27 PM
and that " bigger retarded brother' was the 1st in the world to send a man to space.


that was 60 years ago, now that same brother is toothless, his wife left him because he beat her up many times in his drunken ramapage, badly needing a shower, but can't becasue there is no hot water. Now he is selling potatoes on the streets to make enough money to buy some bread and cheap vodka.

Kilgor
08-10-2005, 08:31 PM
and that " bigger retarded brother' was the 1st in the world to send a man to space.

Nazi germany had many firsts too, but it doesnt in anyway legitimize a bastard political system.

~~~~
08-10-2005, 09:59 PM
Here's a link (http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/21/96/383/15904_Poland.html) to the story about the Polish skinheads and Russian and Kazakhstan diplomats' children.


polish skinheads? lol, help me find at least one of them here in Warsaw... :cantbeli:

there were a bunch of them some 10-15 years ago when in it was in some way "fashionable" to be skinhead or punk. struggles between those two opposite movements where in those days something quite common in Warsaw but i don't think political issues were the most important thing in those antagonisms...

but now?!? no one gives a **** anymore about all of that. all those people are in my opinion just to mature and serious (job, family etc) now to take part of movements which can give them only unnecessary troubles. and like it is not trendy anymore there is really hard to find any youngsters being punks ot skinheads today... today youth are more interressed by 50 cent and new Nike sneakers than being in some way politically oriented.

and last time I've seen a nazi/right winged skinhead it was a 18 years old wan looking weed and pimpled youngster. nothing to be scarried of... and I doubt there are more than let's say fifteen of them in the whole city... they're like dinosaurs :lol:

in my opinion the russians were beatten rather by some ordinary young drug addicted thugs from poor suburbian quarters. they're a much more common phenomenon than skinheads today in Poland. they often also shave their heads and pump their muscles, howether their only ideology is to find any money at any price. and there aren't any politics in all of that. they are just to dumb to be interressed by political issues. that's all what I think about the incident which took place in Warsaw.

Drunkensquid
08-10-2005, 10:35 PM
ahh, pravda, what great source for news rofl rofl rofl

this guy is the biggest peace of garbage I've ever read:

http://english.pravda.ru/author/_78.htmld

Dima-RussianArms
08-10-2005, 10:46 PM
ahh, pravda, what great source for news rofl rofl rofl

this guy is the biggest peace of garbage I've ever read:

http://english.pravda.ru/author/_78.htmld

Strange, you have no problem quoting it when it fits your agenda...

So why did you immigrate from Hungary?

Drunkensquid
08-10-2005, 11:06 PM
ahh, pravda, what great source for news rofl rofl rofl

this guy is the biggest peace of garbage I've ever read:

http://english.pravda.ru/author/_78.htmld

Strange, you have no problem quoting it when it fits your agenda...

So why did you immigrate from Hungary?

Tovarish, what are you talking about fitting my agenda, I never quoted anything from pravda, you are imagening stuff. :petting:

Mr.K
08-11-2005, 01:14 AM
Oh you're hungarian? well that explains alot.
Hey, got a cigarette? p-)

Son_Of_Suvorov
08-11-2005, 01:48 AM
Oh you're hungarian? well that explains alot.
Hey, got a cigarette? p-)

I think the question everyone is asking themselves now is, which member of the family does Drunkensquid's nationality personify? The inbred cousin who takes "mobile" in "mobile home" seriously? The pedophile uncle with an insatiable wanderlust? The kleptomaniac son running away from home? Will we ever know?

Abbyy
08-11-2005, 02:25 AM
Today another Polish diplomat was assaulted in Moscow. It is second Polish diplomat and third Polish ambassy worker assaulted in Moscow! now who will say that Poles have some complex towards Russia?

Well we're still loosing 3:4 after that incident with children of Russian diplomats. So expect next incidents :)

Drunkensquid
08-11-2005, 04:17 AM
Oh you're hungarian? well that explains alot.
Hey, got a cigarette? p-)

I think the question everyone is asking themselves now is, which member of the family does Drunkensquid's nationality personify? The inbred cousin who takes "mobile" in "mobile home" seriously? The pedophile uncle with an insatiable wanderlust? The kleptomaniac son running away from home? Will we ever know?

I take that as a complement, I mean the fact that this is all you could come up with. :petting:

seruriermarshal
08-11-2005, 05:03 AM
Russia must stop these events .

Zmey
08-11-2005, 05:10 AM
Russia must stop these events .

However regretful these events are, you'll find that there is surprisingly little Russia must do.

Z

Musashi
08-11-2005, 05:12 AM
Today another Polish diplomat was assaulted in Moscow. It is second Polish diplomat and third Polish ambassy worker assaulted in Moscow! now who will say that Poles have some complex towards Russia?

Well we're still loosing 3:4 after that incident with children of Russian diplomats. So expect next incidents :) rofl
So one Polish diplomat should be beaten up in Khazahstan, not in Russia ;)

perdurabo
08-11-2005, 08:19 AM
Russia must stop these events .

However regretful these events are, you'll find that there is surprisingly little Russia must do.

Z
well protecting foregin diplomats ismust to do

Igor01
08-11-2005, 09:39 AM
well protecting foregin diplomats ismust to do

There are now five police officers guarding the Polish embassy by day and 4 by night, the Moscow Criminal Investigations unit reportedly put their best investigators on the case.

In Poland the Police have detained two stolen goods dealers that were found in possession of the items stolen from the Russian kids attacked earlier.

Clearly, the authorities of both countries would like to resolve these matters as soon as possible and not allow similar acts to happen again.

We cannot afford not to be friends with our Slavic brethren, we share a lot of commonalities in culture and life attitudes, not to mention our taste in food and drink ;)

http://img.lenta.ru/articles/2005/08/11/poland/picture.jpg

perdurabo
08-11-2005, 02:18 PM
now is 4:4 this time Polish reporter was assaulted in Moscow.

Musashi
08-11-2005, 02:23 PM
now is 4:4 this time Polish reporter was assaulted in Moscow.
**** war continues...

A Polish journalist was beaten up in Moscow at 19:30 of the local time. He left an office of "Rzeczpospolita" newspaper to buy cigarettes in a shop and has been beaten up by five men. According to him he feel good, but looks like a heavy weight boxer after a few rounds of boxing.

Meanwhile the Polish police arrested a receiver who bought the goods of the Russian teenagers mugged in Warsaw from skinheads and was going to sell them. He has not participated in the mugging. According to the police he is young (a good news for his prison mates) ;)

Our Great President, Foreign Minister, a Government spokesman and ALL their assistants are on vacation and nobody bothers to make a speech about the latest events.

The Polish television showed Polish-Russian trade exchange by the border with Kalinigrad region and common people, who live peacefully.

WolverineBlue
08-11-2005, 03:27 PM
I still say Lokomotiv supporters would win.

Marmot1
08-11-2005, 05:19 PM
now is 4:4 this time Polish reporter was assaulted in Moscow.

OK tomorow it will be 4:5 for Poland.... there are always some russians around my workplace :fork:

Abbyy
08-11-2005, 05:55 PM
I suppose we'll be able to stop when score will look like basketball's one. :)

Herrmannek
08-11-2005, 06:17 PM
I bet Russians will not stop untill they reach total overkill.. I say it will be like 8 to 4 for Russians :)

Marmot1
08-11-2005, 06:59 PM
I bet Russians will not stop untill they reach total overkill.. I say it will be like 8 to 4 for Russians :)

Don't underestimate our countrymen... I bet hunting season for russians has just opened now in Poland... there are rumors that no permit is required for them... :lol:

Dima-RussianArms
08-11-2005, 07:49 PM
OK tomorow it will be 4:5 for Poland.... there are always some russians around my workplace :fork:

Dude, I have seen you :roll:
My grandma could bitch slap you, so quit the tough talk, you aint' got horsepower to back it up...


You guys started it, so whatever happens there is noone to blame but yourselves.

I'd say it is time to remind our slavic "brothers" their place in the food chain...



Bring it on bitches! :fork:


joke.

Mr.K
08-12-2005, 12:20 AM
The Polish television showed Polish-Russian trade exchange by the border with Kalinigrad region and common people, who live peacefully.

Duh, not all people are idiots, they have better things to do than fight for no reason.

On a totally retarded note : Go Russia, let's smoke them!
I also hope that no one will get killed, cause it's a stupid issue.

Drunkensquid
08-12-2005, 02:06 AM
Interestingly we don't hear russkies beating up on Chechens, they are too scared too phuck with them.

Holycrusader
08-12-2005, 02:39 AM
Interestingly we don't hear russkies beating up on Chechens, they are too scared too phuck with them.

Who cares about chechens... They beat them regulary but nobody report that. This is not a news :roll:

I just feed a troll :(

tony6
08-12-2005, 05:04 AM
Sawka's cartoon from the latest "Wprost" issue :D
http://ludzie.wprost.pl/G/pics/0/79/79667/m.jpg

Zielony
08-12-2005, 05:12 AM
haha SMIERT POSLKI FASZISTOM.... like it ;)

Levan
08-12-2005, 06:54 AM
what a nice topic............ :|

Herrmannek
08-12-2005, 07:45 AM
Polish-Russian topics are controled flames.. Proper way is to threat them as a sport you can do without moving your as from the airmchair....

WackyWoodChuck
08-12-2005, 07:52 AM
Admit it -- Poles and Russians really really love each other ;)

hell yeah, just take a look at our history, we are like brothers :lol:

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl :hug:

Herrmannek
08-13-2005, 05:18 AM
Russian joined investigations believein beatings of Poles and Polish embassy Russian driver were conected.

Musashi
08-16-2005, 12:58 PM
I heard in TV news all the perpetrators of mugging of the Russian and Khazah children in Warsaw were detained by the Polish police yesterday.
They are very young, so in my opinion their prison mates will like their company. They will can boast in the future "I fuc.ked a TV star" p-) I think it will be very prestigious among prison community.