FSB training in USA

[RomanS]

do what now

[He219]

M82A1, .50 link (for what), Uzi(?!?), Faded HK shirt, Chinese Spike Bayonet,

Sure they aren't wanabees.... What's the story?


:D

[rfountain]

I would say these are definitely airsofters...these are not the real deal

[Jack Mehoff]

fire power makes me horny

[memphiz]

Damn nice pic's PermskiiOMON woot woot

[anonymous individual]

I would say these are definitely airsofters...these are not the real deal

All PermskiiOMON's pictures in other threads look very real to me. These pictures should not be any exception. Besides, there are nothing in those pictures suggest any involvement with airsoft.

To PermskiiOMON:

Great pictures. Thanks for sharing.

[Dmitri]

I would say these are definitely airsofters...these are not the real dealexcept these airsofters look like they can whoop your butt with their hands tied

[anonymous individual]

I would say these are definitely airsofters...these are not the real dealexcept these airsofters look like they can whoop your butt with their hands tied

Are you suggesting kind of like how Drew Barrymore did in Charlie Angels? :)

[Dmitri]

I got a friend who is a sniper in FSB. All his years in school he was always in excellent shape (I would say ripped), and was in shooting schools since age 10, so he got excepted there. Now I'm not sure where exactly he is there, he couldn't tell (although doubt Alfa, too young - 23). About a year ago he sent me some pics from national sniper competition where best snipers from regular forces, spetsnaz and even Vityaz participated, and He go 5th place there woot

[RomanS]

Airsofters lool.

DO they sell the 50 caliber ammo with the guns too?

Here is from Russia.

Oh by the way, where can i find a Vintorez VSS or KEDR2 airsoft?
And also, if you can provide me with a source for Russian FSB gear, I would appreciate it alot!!!!
THANKS A LOT


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-9/53088/aleha3.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-9/53088/aleha2.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-9/53088/ALeha.jpg

[Dmitri]

Are you suggesting kind of like how Drew Barrymore did in Charlie Angels? Sry, I didn't see that movie. How did it go?? :lol: It had to be humiliating...

[Marmot1]

Sorry but those photos don't seem real FSB photos to me, UZI M82 and probably chinese AKM with spike bayonet or mosin with bayonet I don't thin kthat fsb use a mix like that also only one of them has a FSB jacket and rest of them were partialy in civilian clothes one of them has even US woodland... come on if russia sendt those men to us they will dress them better. Lok on the second series of photos (from russia) those seems real to me not the first ones...

BTW have you noticed blood group patch on uniform (nice idea)

[George W. Bush]

Arizona desert :lol: :lol:

I think I know where that is.

[soma]

Didn't know sf liked to show off as in picture 2.

[HMMcrewchief]

NOPE bunch of guys shooting in the desert. NEVER carry .50 link like that! Plus what is the .50 link for? Why wear the vest? Nothing in the pockets, no spare mags or tools. Horrible trigger control, KEEP YOU FINGER OFF AND AWAY! The guy in the ****e position is just not right, he is not even holding the rear grip of the ! He is looking for a case of scope eye. If he is training where is his spotter? Who is calling corrections? Where is his shooting mat? Most snipers have much better scopes, with easier to adjust wind and range turrets. The guy next to the Faded HK shirt does not have his PASGT cover on correctly, and no helmet band? Chin strap unfastened. Why wear the helmet? Nobody else is. The woodland BDU pockets are not buttoned, just rookie mistakes. Just a bunch of guys shootin in the desert tryin to look highspeed.

The other picture posted by PermskiiOMON look more authentic. Or at least a HARD core collecter. But what weapon is that in the first and last photos? I think I have seen russian forces with that before.

[mustamato]

Plus what is the .50 link for? ... But what weapon is that in the first and last photos? I think I have seen russian forces with that before.

The pictures are not working so I haven´t seen them, but can´t the obvious answer to your question simply be that they think it´s cool, beautiful, tough or whatever. Like the MG links used in these pictures:

http://www.marinen.mil.se/images/local/030813_a_vantar.jpg
Left guys arm

http://www.marinen.mil.se/images/local/030813_a_uppriven.jpg
Look at the leg of that right soldier with the Minimi

And that AK5 is another one of these weapons it would be somewhat difficult to find with airsofters.

[MaxPayne]

http://www.marinen.mil.se/images/local/030813_a_vantar.jpg

"Booooooooooring" :D :D

[George W. Bush]

Is that UZI an SBR or Class III?

Nice nice rare Russian stuff. You could really scare the **** out of someone wearing that! haha

To everyone else:
You guys need to stop posting flame bait. It's obvious they got some rare Russian equipment and are just playing around. Who cares if one of them doesn't know how to attach a PASGT helmet cover? :bash:

[anonymous individual]

NOPE bunch of guys shooting in the desert. NEVER carry .50 link like that! Plus what is the .50 link for? Why wear the vest? Nothing in the pockets, no spare mags or tools. Horrible trigger control, KEEP YOU FINGER OFF AND AWAY! The guy in the ****e position is just not right, he is not even holding the rear grip of the ! He is looking for a case of scope eye. If he is training where is his spotter? Who is calling corrections? Where is his shooting mat? Most snipers have much better scopes, with easier to adjust wind and range turrets. The guy next to the Faded HK shirt does not have his PASGT cover on correctly, and no helmet band? Chin strap unfastened. Why wear the helmet? Nobody else is. The woodland BDU pockets are not buttoned, just rookie mistakes. Just a bunch of guys shootin in the desert tryin to look highspeed.

The other picture posted by PermskiiOMON look more authentic. Or at least a HARD core collecter. But what weapon is that in the first and last photos? I think I have seen russian forces with that before.

I believe all the pictures except for the last one with three people are meant to shown off. They cleary posed in them.

[Undo]

I want to stop this before it gets out of hand.

I don't know what Roman was thinking posting these photos, especially under this heading. These belong in off-topic, humour. Maybe this is his idea of a joke. The last three he posted (FSB guy in the snow) are real and a very good friend of ours who is an operator (if someone was commenting on his trigger control, that's just the way the Russians do it). He gave me the vest. These first photos were taken on a "work thing" and absolutely not meant to be shown around, especially like this. :oops:

Anyway, please disregard.

P.S. HMMcrewchief, what exactly is wrong with the "****e position guy"? Shooting mat? Heh. The scope, by the way, comes with the Barrett and is pretty well dialed in. You shouldn't make too many assumptions about a situation you don't know anything about. The weapon the real FSB guy has is a KEDR2 with some toys attached.

Again, I appologize for whatever is going on here. I will ask Roman what is up.

[Dmitri]

Listen ppl, if a guy is looking at the camera, that already more than likely means he is posing. The .50 cal ammo could be there just for fun, just relax a little bit. I have plenty of pics of me and other guys with 30mm ammo link on the neck plus 7.62 wrapped around, does that mean I'm not a soldier?? An airsofter? We were just horsing around for fun, but I guess if I put it on this website everyone would say how terrible american military is because we wear 30mm links around our necks and pose for some pics... :cantbeli:

[RomanS]

Jesus,

First of all if you really think that FSB will be training in USA, then you have some serious problems.
This was a joke, especially cactuses in the background. Lighten up people. With all the problems in the world today, there should always be room for humor. :backhand:

[mustamato]

Jesus,

First of all if you really think that FSB will be training in USA, then you have some serious problems.
This was a joke, especially cactuses in the background. Lighten up people. With all the problems in the world today, there should always be room for humor. :backhand:

So what is the answer to:


Oh by the way, where can i find a Vintorez VSS or KEDR2 airsoft?
And also, if you can provide me with a source for Russian FSB gear, I would appreciate it alot!!!!
THANKS A LOT

[Dmitri]

Well, I personally saw Russian and Georgian officers here in america on the exchange programs or training, and although it is less likely, who said FSB couldn't play around or train with american units?

[Undo]

I can certainly confirm that many MVD units have come to the states to train, including OMSN/SOBR units. I don't know of any FSB units that have trained in the US, but you can't rule it out. This cross-training is excellent for everyone involved, if for no other reason than the creation of friendships that transcend borders.

This week was fun and all, but the only Russian that was there was PermskiiOmon. I don't think he intended to seriously fool anyone. I chalk this up to, "crazy Russians." I think he got carried away with the second post.

Wangchung, were do you think these pics were taken? If you guess right we might be able to meet there sometime.

By the way, the PASGT helmet cover came off a bit because it has been rolling around in the back of a Tundra for a while, and not everyone uses the helmet bands.

Shooting mat...heh. Still funny.

[rfountain]

I agree, there is no need to get uptight about something that may just be a joke, but it was placed in the regular military photos section instead of the humor page, and it was given a serious label. It would be natural for many who are experienced with real military units to point out the inconsistencies in the photos.

I was just adding to the first observation that the people in the pic did not appear to be the real deal. No offense was to the individuals pictured in the photos. Just an observation and comment not a personal attack. It appears that people can get offended easily on these forums and uptightness can work both ways. :roll:

[anonymous individual]

I agree, there is no need to get uptight about something that may just be a joke, but it was placed in the regular military photos section instead of the humor page, and it was given a serious label. It would be natural for many who are experienced with real military units to point out the inconsistencies in the photos.

I was just adding to the first observation that the people in the pic did not appear to be the real deal. No offense was to the individuals pictured in the photos. Just an observation and comment not a personal attack. It appears that people can get offended easily on these forums and uptightness can work both ways. :roll:

I agree. I could not believe PermskiiOMON has been lying to us along... :D

[HMMcrewchief]

Undo,
Quote, "P.S. HMMcrewchief, what exactly is wrong with the "****e position guy"? Shooting mat? Heh. The scope, by the way, comes with the Barrett and is pretty well dialed in. You shouldn't make too many assumptions about a situation you don't know anything about. The weapon the real FSB guy has is a KEDR2 with some toys attached. "

Thanks for the info on the KEDR2. If you have ever spent a few hours on a firing line at a range you would realize what advantage a shooting mat would have, and any supposed "sniper" would at most times use one during this situation. I think I would have a fairly firm concept of what was going on as I have shot competetivly since 13, Been in the USMC since 94' (I am not a sniper or any other high speed person nor ever claimed to be) just a crewchief. Also about the ****e position with the finger on the trigger it is supposed he is about to fire. With the improper rear hand and loose hold it just would not be good. Possibly struck in the head with the scope. It would be a decent position but not one of a "PRO" who does this day in and day out. I have never "purchassed" a Barrett so if that is the scope it comes with it fine, I concede that.

And about "who cares about the PASGT cover". It was stated as a point interest that I used to make the assumption of not a professional soldier. It is just in my opinnion a sign of lack of trainning.

All of this was said when somebody said they were true FSB on exchange training in the US., I just didn't think they were russian proffesional soldiers here on buisness. Under the Guys going out and having fun concept, hey count me in. And great pics.

[Undo]

HMMcrewchief,

Sorry about the attitude, it really wasn't necessary and I apologize. I forgot that people were expecting to see something completely different. Anyway, I took offense because I was a soldier and being criticized for these things bugged. To some extent because you are right. My loose grip on the butt of the M82 was due to the pic being posed. Recipe for "scope-eye" indeed. I have spent an hour or two on a shooting line and I know shooting mats are great on the range, but you don't need one to make the gun go. Fair enough, though, since you were expecting to see FSB guys. I would like to point out, though, that I have never seen a Russian use a shooting mat. Couldn't say why.

KEDR2 is big fun. About like a mini-uzi. Similar cyclic rate. Without the silencer it climbs a lot.

Are you Pac or Lant?

[HMMcrewchief]

No problem just wanted to explain myself. I really don't like it when my shooting coach criticizes my positions either, so I understsand. To answer Pac Or Lant, currently Lant 4th MAW. Here pictures of a Russain shooter using a mat, might just to stop him from sinking into the snow though. Originally posted by Spoonman
http://club.guns.ru/images/sv98/sv98-6.jpg
http://club.guns.ru/images/convention/3.jpg

[Javehn]

Can you explain please , what is Pac and Lant ?

[Undo]

Can you explain please , what is Pac and Lant ?

Pacific or Atlantic fleets.

I hadn't seen those pics before. I figured they did use them, but I hadn't seen it. I have seen them use a rifle case.

Ah, the SV-98. Very nice rifle. Very interesting design.

SVDS is very cool.