manual or automatic

[disabled1]

a recent reply to an article in piture of yourself has sparked me to start this thread so we dont flood that thread with bollocks

[Macs.]

Sportscar -> Manual
"Normal" car you only use to get from A to B -> Automatic

[Herrmannek]

Only manual both car and cycle :) ... I haven't even chance to drive automatic yet

[disabled1]

i am going to get an auto truck for my wife and kids so she can go get groceries in it but my civic is stillstaying manual...**** automatics

[Zarathustra]

Manual

[TuNeRsHaRk]

depends, driving automatic is alot easier, but when it comes to speed i prefer manual

[disabled1]

if im hauling the family its the scion xb auto and if its me going where i need to go its the civic stick

[Herrmannek]

Don't say manual is hard everyone is able to learn it faster than handle car well on the progressive road turns. I would say manuals are safer than automats, I haven't heard about anyone who rode through shop window with manual, but I heard a lot of such stories with automats...

[Zarathustra]

depends, driving automatic is alot easier, but when it comes to speed i prefer manual

Exactly, I agree with that.

[cmdrfire]

I prefer manual, though those new paddle-shift DSG gearboxes with the two clutches are a helluva lot of fun. Still doesn't give you quite the same control though, but it's close (and gives you the edge when that type-R or that renaulsport wants to take you on :-D )

[disabled1]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2346/image017ir.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

05 scion xb

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3425/image025ls.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

92 civic hatch

[Herrmannek]

wow and I thought i knew how ugly cars looks like :)

[tyovan]

Automatic - I've never tried manual.. :|

[Uncle Sam]

What about automanual...?? :lol:

[usa320]

my old car (69' El Camino) was a stick shift.

But im getting my new car tommorow, a 97 Nissan Sentra GXE. Its an automatic.

Its nice, i cant wait to get it.

82,000 miles on it, cost me just under 5,000 dollars. Its the sport model, with the spoiler and sunroof. Its also got a set of rims and a 500 dollar system in it.

I had to buy it because the El Camino is constantly needing work lately. I havent even driven it the past few weeks, ive been driving my Girlfriend's NIssan Sentra, which is identical to my new one, only hers is purple and mines grey.

So now i have to hopefully sell the el camino for a grand or so. It will hurt because it was my first and only car, and i love it, but i just cant afford to constantly be doing work on it.

http://www.buggybank.com/p/p13814_1.jpg

this is the base model of the car im getting, but mine is the sportier model. its got the wing and stuff.

[disabled1]

those are nice but i would rather have one of the other but not both

[Hawkeye]

bicycle ding ding

i'm poor

[Conga]

automatic is boring.

[cmdrfire]

What about automanual...?? :lol:

That'd be the DSG paddle shift that I mentioned earlier... it's awesome :-D

[Fargin]

Manual.

[Ratamacue]

I will never drive an automatic so long as I have any choice in the matter.

[Herrmannek]

Professionals agree: manual :)
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/796/

[EvanL]

ive never have and never plan on driving an automatic as long as i can.

[Howie Kaluha]

I've owned 4 cars so far. Two of them were stick, the other 2 (current truck) is automatic. I'd prefer an auto for daily city driving and comfort driving. But, if I'm gonna be driving anything with 2 seats, meant to go 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds and want to take it out to a movie on the weekend, it better be stick p-)

[EvanL]

I've owned 4 cars so far. Two of them were stick, the other 2 (current truck) is automatic. I'd prefer an auto for daily city driving and comfort driving. But, if I'm gonna be driving anything with 2 seats, meant to go 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds and want to take it out to a movie on the weekend, it better be stick p-)
i would think that manual would be easier to drive in the city as you can control your speed much easier.

[Ratamacue]

I've owned 4 cars so far. Two of them were stick, the other 2 (current truck) is automatic. I'd prefer an auto for daily city driving and comfort driving. But, if I'm gonna be driving anything with 2 seats, meant to go 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds and want to take it out to a movie on the weekend, it better be stick p-)
i would think that manual would be easier to drive in the city as you can control your speed much easier.
I agree, although it can be a bit of a pain in the ass during stop-go driving.

[EvanL]

I've owned 4 cars so far. Two of them were stick, the other 2 (current truck) is automatic. I'd prefer an auto for daily city driving and comfort driving. But, if I'm gonna be driving anything with 2 seats, meant to go 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds and want to take it out to a movie on the weekend, it better be stick p-)
i would think that manual would be easier to drive in the city as you can control your speed much easier.
I agree, although it can be a bit of a pain in the ass during stop-go driving.
yeh but thats when you just keep it in first and keep your foot on the clutch and brake. the worst is when you find yourself on a hill with a stop sign or light at the top.

[Howie Kaluha]

I've owned 4 cars so far. Two of them were stick, the other 2 (current truck) is automatic. I'd prefer an auto for daily city driving and comfort driving. But, if I'm gonna be driving anything with 2 seats, meant to go 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds and want to take it out to a movie on the weekend, it better be stick p-)
i would think that manual would be easier to drive in the city as you can control your speed much easier.
I agree, although it can be a bit of a pain in the ass during stop-go driving.


That's my thing. I drove a '97 black Camaro SS for about a year. That was one of the most wicked cars I'd ever driven. But it wasn't a practical car. I got real annoyed driving it in stop and go traffic. It's not comfortable. I liked taking it out with my girl on the weekends to a movie or sumthin'.

[EvanL]

i like driving girls around in manual cars. cus then they dont get mad when you dont want to hold their hand. you actually have an excuse why you cant.

[Herrmannek]

@at hill stops
why? its simple you release break put that leg on the thruthle and realese firmly clutch pedal , after little training you don't even have to use handbrake and your car will not move back even an inch...

[Ratamacue]

@at hill stops
why? its simple you release break put that leg on the thruthle and realese firmly clutch pedal , after little training you don't even have to use handbrake and your car will not move back even an inch...
Yeah, I've never had any problems with hills except when I was first starting. I may roll back a little, but never so much that I have to worry about hitting a person behind me.

[EvanL]

i have no problems with it. i just hate it. last time i had to do it i had my car filled up with people and it was slow enough. and i had to pull the e-brake to keep me from rolling back into the car behind me.

[Fargin]

I once stopped at a red light on a steep hill, for some reason I pulled the break and put it in neutral. When the light turned whenever I released the break, I started rolling backwards. After three attempts I remembered the stick was in neutral.

[EvanL]

I once stopped at a red light on a steep hill, for some reason I pulled the break and put it in neutral. When the light turned whenever I released the break, I started rolling backwards. After three attempts I remembered the stick was in neutral.
i had that happen on my drivers test.

[Macs.]

Err, why do you put it to neutral ???

Btw this can also happen to you with a stick eh...

[EvanL]

Err, why do you put it to neutral ???

Btw this can also happen to you with a stick eh...
so you dont have to hold down both the clutch and the brake.

[Ratamacue]

Err, why do you put it to neutral ???

Btw this can also happen to you with a stick eh...
You never put the car into neutral when you're stopped?

[Macs.]

Err, why do you put it to neutral ???

Btw this can also happen to you with a stick eh...
You never put the car into neutral when you're stopped?

Manual yes, automatic no.

[Ratamacue]

Err, why do you put it to neutral ???

Btw this can also happen to you with a stick eh...
You never put the car into neutral when you're stopped?
Manual yes, automatic no.
I believe that Fargin was using a manual in the situation he described.

[Macs.]

Its a lose-lose situation.

[Herrmannek]

Err, why do you put it to neutral ???

Btw this can also happen to you with a stick eh...
You never put the car into neutral when you're stopped?
only when I'm tired of squising clutch pedal

[Fargin]

Err, why do you put it to neutral ???

Btw this can also happen to you with a stick eh...
I know I was driving stick when it happened. I was releasing the clutch and speeding up, while releasing the handbrake and nothing happened. Plus I had a row of cars behind me. So after three attempts, I though: Either I've forgotten something or I'll have to push the car.

[Ratamacue]

Err, why do you put it to neutral ???

Btw this can also happen to you with a stick eh...
I know I was driving stick when it happened. I was releasing the clutch and speeding up, while releasing the handbrake and nothing happened. Plus I had a row of cars behind me. So after three attempts, I though: Either I've forgotten something or I'll have to push the car.
"Hmm, the engine sure is revving good..."

[v-twin]

Sequential gearboxes or "semi-automatic".
I've started driving couple of weeks ago and I've only driven automatics but I want my dad to teach me how to drive a manual. Anyway, semi-automatics are fun and easy because you get do to something other than just drive, and you don't have to worry about too many things.

Oh, and I don't like 2 seaters so the whole speed thing doesn't really matter to me.

[Fargin]

Err, why do you put it to neutral ???

Btw this can also happen to you with a stick eh...
I know I was driving stick when it happened. I was releasing the clutch and speeding up, while releasing the handbrake and nothing happened. Plus I had a row of cars behind me. So after three attempts, I though: Either I've forgotten something or I'll have to push the car.
"Hmm, the engine sure is revving good..."
Well the more I gunned the engine, the more... well the car keept rolling backwards. The only think I was thinking was: I'm not gonna crash while my g/f is watching me. I sure miss my green Fiat.

[cmdrfire]

i like driving girls around in manual cars. cus then they dont get mad when you dont want to hold their hand. you actually have an excuse why you cant.

x2, although I had one who insisted on putting her hand under mine on the gear lever. That was a little annoying...


"Hmm, the engine sure is revving good..."

I got into an auto car once, hunted around for the clutch (habit), pulled into neutral and revved to about 2,500 before I realised what was going on. Made me look real smooth...
:roll:

[Ratamacue]

Sequential gearboxes or "semi-automatic".
I've started driving couple of weeks ago and I've only driven automatics but I want my dad to teach me how to drive a manual. Anyway, semi-automatics are fun and easy because you get do to something other than just drive, and you don't have to worry about too many things.

Oh, and I don't like 2 seaters so the whole speed thing doesn't really matter to me.
My advice to you is go with your father for a couple drives in the thing (start with an empty parking lot). After you think you can get the car going from a stop pretty easily, start driving on your own. I was able to learn much faster without my parents in the car.

[Fargin]

i like driving girls around in manual cars. cus then they dont get mad when you dont want to hold their hand. you actually have an excuse why you cant.

x2, although I had one who insisted on putting her hand under mine on the gear lever. That was a little annoying...

Her: Hey... That's not the gear lever!

[Macs.]

Automatic is OK for a everyday car.

I use to go to race tracks every now and then, and a manual is a must have imo.

I also driven cars with Semi-Automatic (F1 Gear, SMG etc.), but most of them suck. I tried them on a Ferrari 360 and a Maserati 4200 GT and it just plain sucks and is no real fun to drive. (IMO)

The new SMG on the BMW M3/5/6 however is very very good. And I heared the new Ferrari isn't bad either.

[He219]

<img src=http://www22.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/normal.jpg?pool=germany&type=image&id=aps483-2&lang=none&filetype=normal>
Steering-wheel paddle switch gearchange mechanisms, please ..
;)

[Macs.]

<img src=http://www22.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/normal.jpg?pool=germany&type=image&id=aps483-2&lang=none&filetype=normal>
Steering-wheel paddle switch gearchange mechanisms, please ..
;)

hehe ok ;)

I tried the new Porsche one on a 997 Carrera S 5 days ago, and the Tiptronic is pretty good. I just would prefer the paddles on the back of the steering wheel.

[v-twin]

My advice to you is go with your father for a couple drives in the thing (start with an empty parking lot). After you think you can get the car going from a stop pretty easily, start driving on your own. I was able to learn much faster without my parents in the car.
I know how to drive an automatic, I just need to get a car with a manual gearbox and have my dad teach me. I'm going home in about 3 weeks and they don't have so many automatics back there, so hopefuly I'll find a car and daddy will teach me.

[cmdrfire]

http://www22.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/normal.jpg?pool=germany&type=image&id=aps483-2〈=none&filetype=normal>
Steering-wheel paddle switch gearchange mechanisms, please ..
;)

This is the DSG that I'm talking about! VW have put it on the GTI Mk 5 and it's amazing.
Macs, on the GTI it's behind the steering wheel as you mentioned; it's also fixed to the wheel so it goes with the wheel when you turn it, unlike Ferrari's version on the 612 (where the paddles are fixed to the "trunk" going up to the wheel, so they do not turn with the wheel). The Ferrari's version is also single clutched, so there is a lurch when you change gears - the DSG has two clutches, one for odd gears and one for even, so there is no such problem when you make a gearchange.

[Macs.]

http://www22.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/normal.jpg?pool=germany&type=image&id=aps483-2〈=none&filetype=normal>
Steering-wheel paddle switch gearchange mechanisms, please ..
;)

This is the DSG that I'm talking about! VW have put it on the GTI Mk 5 and it's amazing.
Macs, on the GTI it's behind the steering wheel as you mentioned; it's also fixed to the wheel so it goes with the wheel when you turn it, unlike Ferrari's version on the 612 (where the paddles are fixed to the "trunk" going up to the wheel, so they do not turn with the wheel). The Ferrari's version is also single clutched, so there is a lurch when you change gears - the DSG has two clutches, one for odd gears and one for even, so there is no such problem when you make a gearchange.

Yeah, I heared that, but didn't have the chance to drive a DSG one from VW. :(

And somehow I like the little pause between the shifting. ;)

[Fargin]

Oh, and I don't like 2 seaters so the whole speed thing doesn't really matter to me.
I salute you. I don't know how I survived my first years of driving. In Denmark you used to get your permit revoked if you drove 100% beyond the speedlimit. Whenever I drove alone or without adult supervision, I'd drive just below of the 'double' speedlimit. I had a few near misses, but never got a ticket or a scratch. I never thought of the possibility of losing controle or killing someone.

I remeber hearing about a girl in town getting hit by a car doing 80km/h in a city zone and she survived, but had both legs amputated. I used to drive sometimes 100km/t that place. After hearing about that, I stopped speeding.

[v-twin]

Why would you drive with 100kmh inside the city? :|
People do the stupidest things to impress chicks

[walford]

I've been driving longer than most of you have been alive and have never learned to use a stickshift. The kinds of cars that I like don't have them -- not even as an option.
http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classics/photos/87500/87986.1968.Chrysler.Imperial.LeBaron.4-Door.Hardtop.jpg
http://members.aol.com/JonathanD2/Cadillac/CadillacFrontEnd.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/bcvcc/lincoln.JPG

[Fargin]

Why would you drive with 100kmh inside the city? :|
Because I could and though I was in controle --> Stupidity.

[Macs.]

I've been driving longer than most of you have been alive and have never learned to use a stickshift.

You missed alot. :petting:

[TuNeRsHaRk]

damn they just built a new road on the outskirts of my town, brand new pavement back in the woods, barely any cars, i swear i almost hit 90 in my dads CRV(V4 automatic) peice of **** car it is

[cmdrfire]

I've been driving longer than most of you have been alive and have never learned to use a stickshift. The kinds of cars that I like don't have them -- not even as an option.
http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classics/photos/87500/87986.1968.Chrysler.Imperial.LeBaron.4-Door.Hardtop.jpg[/img]
http://members.aol.com/JonathanD2/Cadillac/CadillacFrontEnd.jpg[/img]
http://www.members.shaw.ca/bcvcc/lincoln.JPG[/img]

Got to say, you have excellent taste.
If only I could get my hands on a '78 Pontiac TransAm...
Manual is a helluva lot of fun though, more fun than an auto (I think)

[Macs.]

damn they just built a new road on the outskirts of my town, brand new pavement back in the woods, barely any cars, i swear i almost hit 90 in my dads CRV(V4 automatic) peice of **** car it is

I drive faster every morning when I drive to work. :petting:

[walford]

I've been driving longer than most of you have been alive and have never learned to use a stickshift.You missed alot. :petting:If you've never driven a 1962 Coupe DeVille, you've missed quite a bit yourself.

[sucker4gurls]

the Scion xB is probably one of the uglyest cars in existance....

[v-twin]

damn they just built a new road on the outskirts of my town, brand new pavement back in the woods, barely any cars, i swear i almost hit 90 in my dads CRV(V4 automatic) peice of **** car it is

I drive faster every morning when I drive to work. :petting:
He meant 90MPH....and you people in Germany with no speed limits on the Autobahn...lucky..btw, I hate you Macs :(

Walford, welcome to the 21st century, pops.... :roll:

[Macs.]

damn they just built a new road on the outskirts of my town, brand new pavement back in the woods, barely any cars, i swear i almost hit 90 in my dads CRV(V4 automatic) peice of **** car it is

I drive faster every morning when I drive to work. :petting:
He meant 90MPH....

Well, I mean 90 mp/h (Around 145 km/h) ,too.

And its not even a real Autobahn/Highway. woot

[walford]

Got to say, you have excellent taste. If only I could get my hands on a '78 Pontiac TransAm...Manual is a helluva lot of fun though, more fun than an auto (I think)Fun is overrated.
http://www.prn.ee/ajuvant/reklaam/1960/cady-coupedeville67.jpg

[Macs.]

@Walford: Too big, too slow. :petting:

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

I've been driving longer than most of you have been alive and have never learned to use a stickshift.You missed alot. :petting:If you've never driven a 1962 Coupe DeVille, you've missed quite a bit yourself.

I've been in a boat, similar handling.

[walford]

@Walford: Too big, too slow. :petting:Long wheelbase + 4500lbs = stately ride. And w/a 500CID [8.8L] engine, they're quite capable of getting out of their own way.
The Imperials had the 413hemi -- 390 horsepower.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

@Walford: Too big, too slow. :petting:Long wheelbase + 4500lbs = stately ride. And w/a 500CID [8.8L] engine, they're quite capable of getting out of their own way.
The Imperials had the 413hemi -- 390 horsepower.

Yes but.... 4500lbs /390 hp = pile of ****.

[walford]

@Walford: Too big, too slow. :petting:Long wheelbase + 4500lbs = stately ride. And w/a 500CID [8.8L] engine, they're quite capable of getting out of their own way.
The Imperials had the 413hemi -- 390 horsepower.Yes but.... 4500lbs /390 hp = pile of ****.You go ahead and think that -- doesn't hurt my feelings. I know differently because I've actually owned a few heavy cruisers with large V-8s. But y'all enjoy your little put-puts.

[Roldwin]

Manual

I enjoy driving

[Eat a bullet]

Manual, of course.

[v-twin]

Walford, us Europeans don't feel like spending $100 every day to fill our gas tanks. They may be fun to drive on Sunset blvd but that's kinda it. We also hate waiting for 2 hours to reach 100km/h

Macs, what car do you drive? :)

[walford]

Walford, us Europeans don't feel like spending $100 every day to fill our gas tanks. They may be fun to drive on Sunset blvd but that's kinda it.Geez all I did is post a few pics of what I like to explain why I've never driven a manual. Then everyone becomes hysterical.

I'm not trying to convince everybody to like what I like. Why should anyone try and convince me that what I like is so terrible? I know differently. By all means, pedal your little whatchamacallits to your European hearts' content.

[usa320]

the Scion xB is probably one of the uglyest cars in existance....

Its not a car. Its a toaster on wheels.

[disabled1]

bottom line, if you dont have a manual you better have 1 arm and 1 leg or a good excuse

[gaijinsamurai]

Manual, except for work, when I need to concentrate on finding addresses, checking notes, communicating, etc.

[TuNeRsHaRk]

damn they just built a new road on the outskirts of my town, brand new pavement back in the woods, barely any cars, i swear i almost hit 90 in my dads CRV(V4 automatic) peice of **** car it is

I drive faster every morning when I drive to work. :petting:
He meant 90MPH....

Well, I mean 90 mp/h (Around 145 km/h) ,too.

And its not even a real Autobahn/Highway. woot

well in europe its ALOT easier to drive faster with all those roads on the countryside and stuff, here in Fl theres almost cops on every road if not theres heavy traffic everywhere you go

[disabled1]

i loved the autobahn although i only got to experience it for about a few hours at a time and in a military truck. i want to go back with my civic just to open it up

[toki]

i loved the autobahn although i only got to experience it for about a few hours at a time and in a military truck. i want to go back with my civic just to open it up

I remember the u.s.army trucks blocking the right lane of the autobahn all the time i drove to the south, when passing würzburg. Maybe it was you.
I drive manual, and even my small car makes 110+ mph. As Macs said when you're driving to work without speeding and just being relaxed 160km/h (100mph) is a regular speed. When you don't have heavy traffic of course. And i'm lucky of having a free autobahn every morning, because i live in the city most people work in and work outside. I can drive pedal to the metal and laugh at the other side of the autobahn who are normally stuck in a 15km traffic jam. Driving under 20mph.

[scrybe]

I voted both because I prefer a manual in a car, but my Jeep Grand Cherokee is only offered in an auto.

[Big D]

manual - i feel like i have more control over the car

[walford]

I prefer full auto.
http://www.sfu.ca/casr/nav76-1.jpg

[disabled1]

i also feel the sameway, with an automatic i feel im just there to control the car with a manual a feel like i am the car. i also dont have power steering so i can feel the road

[Apogee]

Auto can't compare to the feeling you get when you push your engine up to ~6500 rpm and shift from 1st to 2nd. Even triptronic doesn't stack up to that slamming the shifter back feeling.

I &lt;3 my manual tran and the engine its connected to.

[walford]

redundant..

[zonk]

thank you for relocating my thread, i was wondering where this went and it was here way before the newest one

[Howitz]

Im getting "my" first car next week. New VW GTI, 5 speed all the way! last year of the 1.8t GTI though :petting:

[zonk]

ill have the same car i have had for a year next month

92 civic hatchback just look on the front page its there

[Sierra]

depends on the car

[Roaming East]

Depends on the location. Folks down here in the south cant drive for **** so fast braking is required, nearly all the accidents around here are by drivers with manual transmissions

[cmdrfire]

Im getting "my" first car next week. New VW GTI, 5 speed all the way! last year of the 1.8t GTI though :petting:

Are you getting a Mk4 or a MkV?
'cos the MkV is the shizzle. On the roads there's barely a damn thing that can keep up (or attempt to :-P )

[Aerosoul]

You know what kicks ass?

For homecoming at my school (Sept 30) we drive the homecoming attendants across the football field in front of the stands during halftime, and make the presentation. We alwys have the coolest mother****ing cars cause everyone at my school is a rich bastard.

I get to drive the Aston Martin next week. woot

[Howitz]

Im getting "my" first car next week. New VW GTI, 5 speed all the way! last year of the 1.8t GTI though :petting:

Are you getting a Mk4 or a MkV?
'cos the MkV is the shizzle. On the roads there's barely a damn thing that can keep up (or attempt to :-P )


It's a Mk4 (1.8t), Mk5 (2.0t) is going to be a 2007 model in the US, i believe...

I orignally wanted a N/A Chevy cobalt SS, but test drove the two back to back, the GTI was ridiculously better, and farrrr more practical. Black with black leather interior, can't wait to pick it up monday!

[cmdrfire]

Im getting "my" first car next week. New VW GTI, 5 speed all the way! last year of the 1.8t GTI though :petting:

Are you getting a Mk4 or a MkV?
'cos the MkV is the shizzle. On the roads there's barely a damn thing that can keep up (or attempt to :-P )


It's a Mk4 (1.8t), Mk5 (2.0t) is going to be a 2007 model in the US, i believe...

I orignally wanted a N/A Chevy cobalt SS, but test drove the two back to back, the GTI was ridiculously better, and farrrr more practical. Black with black leather interior, can't wait to pick it up monday!

Nice, I expect to see pics somewhere!
I heard they got LED light clusters out for the Mk4 in the states... I want them for my MkV but I can't get them in Europe :-( apparently hella is working on them but so far I've heard nothing.

[zonk]

i want pictures there buddy, i need something to drool over

[cmdrfire]

i want pictures there buddy, i need something to drool over
Pics of what? the Mk4, the Mk5, or the LED light clusters for the Mk4? p-)

[zonk]

all the above, got to see my competition...ALSO i need a description of the power band on it ie hp and 0-60 mph time

[usa320]

Ive owned both. Personally, i prefer an Automatic at this time.

Up here the traffic can be rough, especially in the mornings, and the snow and stuff makes a stick shift a hassle.

If i lived somewhere where there wasnt as dense traffic or poor road conditions in the winter, i would definately want a manual.

[zonk]

in fayetteville north carolina a manual is not a good idea but in fort hood its not that bad because they have more than 2 lanes open at one time

[Thor]

Burst

[jmatucd]

road bike and moutain bike

I only learned how to use automatic and not manual (yes, I am lazy... but then again I rode 40 miles on my bike today.... so, yea)

[lunny]

depends, driving automatic is alot easier, but when it comes to speed i prefer manual

YUP// TRUE..

[username]

you can't heel and toe in an auto! So manual any day of the week.

[cmdrfire]

all the above, got to see my competition...ALSO i need a description of the power band on it ie hp and 0-60 mph time

http://www.cmdr-fire.co.uk/images/gti1.jpg

http://www.cmdr-fire.co.uk/images/gti2.jpg

200bhp (though there's a mod chip out now to get it upped to 230... I'm sorely tempted...) and 0-62mph in 6s.
Fastest I've taken her is 155mph.

And username, you can't heel and toe in any car that uses a synchromesh gearbox which is most modern manual cars!

[zonk]

wow thats a beautiful car, whats the base price?

[Macs.]

Good choice, man !

[cmdrfire]

wow thats a beautiful car, whats the base price?

GTI MkV starts at £19000... so it'll probably retail in the US when it comes out for something like $25000 or something... not too sure on that though.

It's an excellent car, it's a helluva lot of fun :-D not that i'd break the speed limit or anything p-)

[hauptman]

Manual, even if I drive with automatic in my scooter p-)

[zonk]

a scooter, you got to be kidding me!!!

[Tielir999]

drove our manual truck today for the first time it was hilarious the first 30 mintues then i kinda got the hang of it but dont ask my mom shed tell u a different story like we almost died or sutmhing not true at all