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scoone
01-18-2004, 06:54 AM
Syria's state media dismissed on Saturday Secretary of State Colin Powell's call for Damascus to follow in Libya's footsteps and abandon weapons programs, saying the onus should be on Israel instead.
In a television interview on Friday, Powell said Washington had not included Syria in its "axis of evil" along with Iran, North Korea and Baathist Iraq but it was concerned about Syria's policies on "terrorist activity" and mass destruction weapons.

"They should follow the example of other nations in the region, especially Libya," he told Britain's Sky News.

Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, long a sworn enemy of the West, took a major step in from the cold last month, agreeing to halt banned arms programs and allow international inspectors in an attempt to end decades of isolation and sanctions.

But Syrian state radio said in its daily commentary that it was the United States that had blocked "the proposal Syria presented to the (U.N.) Security Council to rid the Middle East of the different weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons of which Israel possesses more than 100 warheads."

The radio also questioned why Washington did not demand that Israel abandon its weapons programs, submit to inspections and sign international arms treaties.

Syria denies it has acquired nuclear, chemical or biological weapons, but says it has the right to defend itself against Israel, which is believed to have some 200 nuclear warheads.

The Jewish state's policy is not to discuss the issue.

Syria used the final days of its membership in the U.N. Security Council, which ended on Dec 31, to push for a ban on nuclear, biological and chemical weapons in the Middle East.

But the proposal, which sought to spotlight Israel's suspected nuclear arms, was cold-shouldered by the United States and Britain, both permanent members with veto power.

Powell said Libya had come to the conclusion it was "gaining nothing from developing weapons of mass destruction, except getting the condemnation of the whole world, being denied political openness, being denied economic opportunity."

Libya's move came after months of behind-the-scenes diplomacy by the United States and Britain, which made no secret of wanting other Middle Eastern states to take the same steps.

SeanAshi
01-18-2004, 09:00 PM
But the proposal, which sought to spotlight Israel's suspected nuclear arms, was cold-shouldered by the United States and Britain, both permanent members with veto power.

God Bless America! and God Save The Queen! :hug: woot

mustamato
01-18-2004, 09:07 PM
Oh yeah and itīs not hypocritical at all to allow Israel to have ~300 nukes, :roll:

SeanAshi
01-18-2004, 09:11 PM
Exceptions can be made, when the Arabs can guarantee they wont attack/destroy Israel or make attepmts too, then maybe they will get rid of them then. Shema Yisroel Adonai Elohenu Adonai Echad ;)

mustamato
01-18-2004, 09:20 PM
Exceptions can be made...

Yep. And thatīs why countries like in example the moslem country Pakistan didnīt give a rats ass about what US decided, they got their bomb anyway. Thatīs the way it is, will be the same for Iran, if they donīt have it already. They already have carriers for it with their Shihab-3 missile. The future Shihab-4 and 5 will mainly improve the range. Fine with me.

UkrainianAmerican
01-18-2004, 10:19 PM
Oh yeah and itīs not hypocritical at all to allow Israel to have ~300 nukes, :roll:
STFU retard.

SeanAshi
01-18-2004, 10:47 PM
....wait a minute I forgot, Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons.

One?
01-18-2004, 10:53 PM
Oh yeah and itīs not hypocritical at all to allow Israel to have ~300 nukes, :roll:

The US inspected Israel's nuclear facilities during the JFK days. The doors were covered with brick walls, and most of the facilities were underground.

JFK was assasinated, and that was the last time anyone inspected Israel's nuclear facilities.

PS: I dont mean that israel assasinated JFK.

SFontaine
01-18-2004, 10:55 PM
That's because Israel isn't an insane fanatical country.

mustamato
01-18-2004, 11:00 PM
That's because Israel isn't an insane fanatical country.

So the day Israel becomes a insane fanatical country they will immediately scrap their ~300 warheads, as well as the submarines that can take these warheads on missiles (and thus are strategically a threat to the whole world more or less)?

Somehow I doubt it. Already today the democratic state of Israel are doing stuff that should classify them as fanatical. Such as assasinate people with attack helicopters despite the obvious risk of killing innocent bystanders. Sure stuff like this happens in war, but war is insane right?

So tell me one more time why they should be allowed to have nukes?

StarvingStudent47
01-18-2004, 11:17 PM
The US inspected Israel's nuclear facilities during the JFK days. The doors were covered with brick walls, and most of the facilities were underground.

JFK was assasinated, and that was the last time anyone inspected Israel's nuclear facilities.

PS: I dont mean that israel assasinated JFK.

WTF is this supposed to mean?

By the way, we DO know who assassinated JFK's brother Robert Kennedy...

UkrainianAmerican
01-18-2004, 11:40 PM
That's because Israel isn't an insane fanatical country.

So the day Israel becomes a insane fanatical country they will immediately scrap their ~300 warheads, as well as the submarines that can take these warheads on missiles (and thus are strategically a threat to the whole world more or less)?

Somehow I doubt it. Already today the democratic state of Israel are doing stuff that should classify them as fanatical. Such as assasinate people with attack helicopters despite the obvious risk of killing innocent bystanders. Sure stuff like this happens in war, but war is insane right?

So tell me one more time why they should be allowed to have nukes?

Western secular Democracies tend not to turn fanatical. "Innocent" people dont hang around wanted terrorists and suck their ****.

SeanAshi
01-18-2004, 11:41 PM
:bash: Sirhan Sirhan PLO representing, shhh its a secret

UkrainianAmerican
01-18-2004, 11:43 PM
:bash: Sirhan Sirhan PLO representing
No you naive zionist, it was the MOSSAD I tell u! Sirhan Sirhan was a peace-loving Jordanian, who was framed!
/sarcasm

SeanAshi
01-19-2004, 12:16 AM
Such as assasinate people with attack helicopters
http://www.ixtreme.com/pictures/fullsize/terror8.jpg

One?
01-19-2004, 12:20 AM
That's because Israel isn't an insane fanatical country.

So the day Israel becomes a insane fanatical country they will immediately scrap their ~300 warheads, as well as the submarines that can take these warheads on missiles (and thus are strategically a threat to the whole world more or less)?

Somehow I doubt it. Already today the democratic state of Israel are doing stuff that should classify them as fanatical. Such as assasinate people with attack helicopters despite the obvious risk of killing innocent bystanders. Sure stuff like this happens in war, but war is insane right?

So tell me one more time why they should be allowed to have nukes?

Western secular Democracies tend not to turn fanatical. "Innocent" people dont hang around wanted terrorists and suck their ****.

And the only democratic, western country to use Nukes was the US regardless of the intention.

SeanAshi
01-19-2004, 12:42 AM
And the only democratic, western country to use Nukes was the US regardless of the intention.

I thought we were the only country period who used wmd on another country, regardless of the intention?........ :roll:

One?
01-19-2004, 12:56 AM
And the only democratic, western country to use Nukes was the US regardless of the intention.

I thought we were the only country period who used wmd on another country, regardless of the intention?........ :roll:

mustard gas was used in WWI, saddam was given chemical weapons from the US and europe which were used on iranians. Agent-Orange was used in vietnam.


I said regardless of the intention, because some will say the a-bomb was used to save lives, and to end the war.

Seiyuuki
01-19-2004, 03:11 AM
And the only democratic, western country to use Nukes was the US regardless of the intention.

I thought we were the only country period who used wmd on another country, regardless of the intention?........ :roll:

mustard gas was used in WWI, saddam was given chemical weapons from the US and europe which were used on iranians. Agent-Orange was used in vietnam.

Uhh...mustard gas were employed by both the Allies and the Germans during WW1. Agent-Orange was a defoliate, developed to deprived the VC of the jungle that they have used repeatedly to their advantage. The only thing that "Weapon" was suppose to "Mass Destruct" was tree and leaves. No one then knew the long-term adverse effect of it on living being.

Certain members of this forum can provide a better argument than me on the issue regarding the chemical samples provided to Iraq by Europe and the U.S.


I said regardless of the intention, because some will say the a-bomb was used to save lives, and to end the war.

Wait...you mean it didn't save lives and didn't end the war?

Mr. Nielsen
01-19-2004, 02:30 PM
I said regardless of the intention, because some will say the a-bomb was used to save lives, and to end the war.

Wait...you mean it didn't save lives and didn't end the war?

The fire bombing of Tokyo had killed more people than, the atomic bomb. And Japan, totally cut off from all strategic resources, were defenceless against these air raids. The US didn't really need an atomic bomb to reduce the cities to rubble one by one. So I should think that to the Japanese, before 6. august 1945, it was already clear that eventually hiroshima and Nagasaki would also be reduced to rubble. The point being, that had they really decided to fight to the last man, I don't think an atomic bomb or two would have made much more of a difference.

budanski
01-19-2004, 02:52 PM
saddam was given chemical weapons from the US and europe which were used on iranians.

Prior to Iraq invading Kuwait, Iraq was among many countries that shared info along with the U.S. to try and find cure for disease research. It was common practice for the U.S. to share samples with other countries. These were commercial samples and far from weaponised.

More on this topic (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=98674&highlight=required+share+viruses#98674)

One?
01-19-2004, 02:56 PM
saddam was given chemical weapons from the US and europe which were used on iranians.

Prior to Iraq invading Kuwait, Iraq was among many countries that shared info along with the U.S. to try and find cure for disease research. It was common practice for the U.S. to share samples with other countries. These were commercial samples and far from weaponised.

More on this topic (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=98674&highlight=required+share+viruses#98674)


oh come on don't tell me you believe that crap. The US new exactly what they were being used for. And yes they helicopters were used for crop dusting. I doubt the US is that stupid.

budanski
01-19-2004, 03:03 PM
Nice rebuttal. :roll:

One?
01-19-2004, 03:10 PM
Nice rebuttal. :roll:


The other thread is 4 pages long, so there is no point of repeating what they said.

budanski
01-19-2004, 03:16 PM
So, what you want to talk about then? :|

He219
01-19-2004, 03:32 PM
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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad declared in an interview published Monday that Israel must abandon its nuclear arsenal before Arab states can be asked to give up any alleged weapons programmes."What the United States is requesting is not logically acceptable," Assad told the pan-Arab al-Sharq al-Awsat (http://article.wn.com/link/WNATD0B0E70DC9BBA36C3990E5E1D846A67A?source=templategenerator&template=worldphotos/viewphoto.txt) newspaper(***** Images)

GazB
01-19-2004, 07:44 PM
"No one then knew the long-term adverse effect of it on living being. "

Of course, a deadly poison that kills all plant life in hours is probably quite harmless to humans.

"Libya's move came after months of behind-the-scenes diplomacy by the United States and Britain, which made no secret of wanting other Middle Eastern states to take the same steps."

This seems to suggest there is no problem. Israel obviously isn't in the Middle East...