MILITARY INTEL MOS

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College is completed and the working force is not working out for me. I am currently studying for the ASVABs and plan to enlist to the Army under an Intel MOS. Would anyone here really know how the training process goes for such an MOS, how difficult it is, and what is the pass/failure rate to enlist in hopes for such a position?

[David]

depends on the type of intelligence, theres the computer nerds that do the technical crap, then theres the counter intelligence guys that torture people, and then theres the linguists and signals analyst guys. training differs depending on which mos you choose. the counter intelligence agent mos(97B) sounds cool. someone told me you had to have in the 90's on the asvab. not that hard for a college grad i'd hope.

and how do you study for the asvab? it's an 'aptitude' test. look it up in the dictionary.

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I went to a recruiter and it was basically said to me that the ASVABs is a test with sections that determine you knowledge of highschool material. Vocabulary and Mathematics Knowledge are two sections which seems to be just that. I bought a study guide for the Asvabs which im using to refresh my mind on what i'm expected to know. Thanks for the info David

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I don't really know all your reasons for enlisting but with a college degree you could go right to OCS and get a commision as an officer. Just something to think about.

[yellowking]

and how do you study for the asvab? it's an 'aptitude' test. look it up in the dictionary.
Studying, it appears to me, would definitely help you in various sections. See some sample questions here:

http://www.todaysmilitary.com/explore_asvab.shtml#sample

I highly doubt most people are born knowing automobile repair, and if nothing else, it will familiarize you with the types of problems you will be given and help your confidence.

[TacoDelRio]

Question: For Intel guys, do they roll HUMINT and ELINT into one MOS?
Hooah! p-)

[Duke]

College is completed, then go to Army/Air Force OCS or OCC (USMC). ASVAB is a joke for college grads and some high school students. The tricky part for some is the mechanical section. Went I took the test, way back when probably before most of you were born, I wasn't so mechanically inclined as today. The test had pictures of gadgets I didnt know of. Looking back the mechanics were basic. As for the math section high school people with atleast trig or college level calculus should whiz through and score 100s.

I'm not in the Army or Air Force or Naval Intelligence(it has a limited scope not like the days of the Cold War). I do know USMC intel. Many Marines are trained by the Army at Fort Huachuca and at Fort Meade for advanced training. Most Marines attend either school at Dam Neck or at Cory Station (Pensacola).

Of all the services I would have to say Marine Intelligence is by far more exiciting than the other branches at the lower grades. Let me explain.

After attending The Basic School, which teaches every 2nd Lt how to run an infantry platoon, 02XX (Marine Intelligence Officers) will be sent to their intelligence speciality schools-Sigint at Cory Station, Ground Intelligence, CI/Humint both at Dam Neck (there are other specialities I wont mention).

Signal Intelligence collects information that runs the spectrum of Elint, Comint, Sigint or any type of electrically driven information. The attend the course Naval Cryptologic Basic Officer Course, the hardest damn course in the military in terms of brain power spent. The most notable group within sigint are the Radio Recon Teams. They do the work in the Marine Air Ground Task Force as Grey Fox in Killing Pablo by Bowen. These teams train in skillfully entering denied areas to pick up intel. They attend courses like Ranger School, coxswain course, Jungle school, Basic/amphibious Recon, MFF, Recon and Surveillance, scuba and advanced crypto courses at Meade.

Ground Intelligence are battlefield intel gathers. After TBS they attend Infantry and then go to Ground Intelligence Course, a course similar to the Army's Recon and Surveil, but more in depth. After Ground they may attend the Scout/Sniper's commanders course to lead a team of S/Ss. Or they may become Force Recon.

CI/HUMINT are trained in the prevention of sabotage, espionage, and terrorism. These are the guys interviewing the Iraqis POWs. They train in languages at Monterey, Ca. Most importantly, they have innate "people skills". CI/Humint can be mundane or boring, but it can be exciting. Boring times are doing background checks, polygraphs, and interviews. Currently, the exciting times is doing leg work tracking down tangos. Overall this billet is exciting, if you get a rush by problem solving try this MOS.

The army does have Sigint, but not anything like RRT. Also, they dont have ground intelligence. Their CI is awesome, being the Army they have numerous billets and posts to serve compared to the USMC. Overall, the Army and USMC CI do the same job.

Intelligence in the military is different than anyother branch regardless of service. Often times you will serve in purple billets, ones where all branches are involved. If you are very lucky and very smart you may serve in the ISA or Joint Task Forces.

[vryhpyammoadded]

Army tac sigint can be a lot of fun. But, if you choose/qualify to take the right path, then don't expect to lead a normal life and understand you will be either training in all sorts of extreme environments or in the field deep in some festering ****hole most of the time. But, it’s not all swamps and mountaintops. Often you will get assignments that seem like a vacation; nice hotels, friendly locals, relaxed attire, let your hair grow, etc. Be warned though, getting two weeks in a row, a year or two, to visit home can be near impossible.
Fun job though ;-)


>>Signal Intelligence collects information that runs the spectrum of Elint, Comint, Sigint or any type of electrically driven information. The attend the course Naval Cryptologic Basic Officer Course, they hardest damn course in the military in terms of brain power spent. The most notable group within sigint are the Radio Recon Teams. They do the work in the Marine Air Ground Task Force as Grey Fox in Killing Pablo by Bowen. These teams train in skillfully entering denied arounds to pick up intel. They attend courses like Ranger School, coxswain course, Jungle school, Basic/amphibious Recon, MFF, Recon and Surveillance, scuba and advanced crypto courses at Meade. <<

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Appreciate the info guys. As for the Asvabs, the automobile section is sure to slam me since I hardly use a car. I'm told aslong as I do extremely well in the parts that count heavily such as the mathematical knowledge, voc and reading comprehension sections I will be given a good list of job openings I can choose from. I understand that if one does not complete/pass the training for the job you signed up for , your contract losses its meaning and they can place you where ever they need you ( frontline infantry perhaps). This is the main reason for my interest on the thoughts of the people here who have knowledge on the Intel positions. I want to know what i'm going up against.

[96B]

The ASVAB really isnt all that hard, I had 2 hours of sleep the prior night because of anticipation and had to take a serious piss the entire time of the test and scored in the high 80s. :lol:

[SFontaine]

I got 60% in the practise one at www.military.com So low cause of the math (I'm only in Grade 9 and math isn't my fortee) but I aced the reading and comprehension ones.


What's the RL equivalent?

[Duke]

if you are college grad, then ASVAB means very little. your MOS will be determined by your choice of MOS and the needs of whatever branch you serve. the powers that be may not let you attend boot, they might make you fill out the OCS application.

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Its nice to see that I can find a well job within the military unlike the economy of todays job world. As a recent college grad with little work experience , I have been having lots of probs looking for work in law enforcement. What I am down to right now is local NYPD ( which i am currently going through with the academy being in July) and the possible military opportunities.