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Bluezoo
08-18-2005, 12:45 PM
Hamas says "battle not over" as Gaza settlers quit
17 Aug 2005 14:04:07 GMT

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By Lin Noueihed

BEIRUT, Aug 17 (*******) - Palestinian militant group Hamas said on Wednesday Israel's evacuation of Jewish settlements in Gaza was a first step toward the liberation of all occupied land through armed struggle.

Hamas's top official Khaled Meshaal said the Islamist group would not give up its weapons while Israel continued to occupy land Palestinians want for a state.

"Gaza is the first liberation, then comes the West Bank, then every inch of Palestinian land," Meshaal told reporters in Beirut. "We are at the beginning of the road and we have not and will not give up our weapons. The battle is not over."

Israeli troops began a forced evacuation on Wednesday of thousands of settlers enraged by their expulsion from the Gaza Strip after Israel's 38-year occupation.

The move is the culmination of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's plan for the first removal of settlements from land Palestinians want for a state.

Palestinian militants claim the withdrawal as victory and Israel opponents decry it as a surrender to violence. Washington hopes it will prove a catalyst for renewed peacemaking.

For Meshaal, speaking in front of a poster reading "Today Gaza, Tomorrow Jerusalem", the evacuation is proof the Palestinians can only win their land and rights by force, not through talks.

Meshaal hailed the move a precedent that marked a reversal of fortunes for Palestinians waging a nearly five-year uprising and the eventual end of Israel's occupation of land it captured in the 1967 Middle East war.

"This is the first real Israeli withdrawal from Palestinian territory and the beginning of the dismantling of the Zionist settlement project," said Meshaal, speaking amid tight security in the stronghold of Lebanon's Hizbollah guerrilla group.

"We are seeing a precedent for withdrawal not by negotiation but through resistance ... We are seeing an important step toward complete liberation and regaining our rights ... the beginning of the end for the Zionist occupation."

"THE BEGINNING OF THE END"

Israel says the evacuation will end its occupation of Gaza, but Palestinians say that can only happen once they gain full control of borders and airspace.

Meshaal said Hamas reserved the right to attack should Israel keep control of Gaza border crossings, as Hizbollah has continued to hit Israeli troops in a disputed border area since Israel ended its 22-year occupation of south Lebanon in 2000.

But Meshaal steered clear of restating Hamas's historic goal of creating an Islamic state that would encompass not only the West Bank and Gaza Strip, but what is now Israel.

"The Zionist plan has begun to retreat. The Palestinian liberation plan of resistance has begun to progress," said the politburo chief, based outside Palestinian territories.

Israel plans to pull out the last troops from Gaza in October, turning the land over to the Palestinian Authority.

While claiming the dismantling of settlements the World Court considers illegal, as a victory for all Palestinians, Meshaal said Hamas would take a share in political power too.

Though listed by the United States and Europe as a terrorist organisation, Hamas has already said it will run for the first time in Palestinian parliamentary elections set for Jan. 21.

The elections were originally set for July but were postponed by Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas has accused Abbas of stalling for time to weed out corruption in his Fatah faction ahead of the polls.
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ReconCominAtYa
08-18-2005, 01:36 PM
Depressing, really.

msnger
08-18-2005, 02:00 PM
pull back in !!!!

damn hamas :bash:

dangerclose
08-18-2005, 02:17 PM
Appeasement works. Sharon has achieved peace in our time.

joshfox0
08-18-2005, 02:25 PM
Appeasement works. Sharon has achieved peace in our time.
:lol: good one.

CG51
08-18-2005, 02:25 PM
Im shocked! :roll:

Anyone that believes this pullout will bring peace is an idiot. Hammas states that their goal is the destruction of Israel.

Laworkerbee
08-18-2005, 02:26 PM
For every rocket or mortar fired into Israel simply respond with crushing artillery salvo's until they get the message. What else can you do?

Mailman
08-18-2005, 02:39 PM
And here you see the true nature of terrosists...they will never stop being terrorists and will always go on finding something they can use to justify their existence.

Mailman

joshfox0
08-18-2005, 02:50 PM
see hamas dosn't want their war to end because then they loose all support and viability as an organisation. there is no chance of them ever accepting a peaceful solution. now i think its time for napalm on the house barkeep.

pathfinder82
08-18-2005, 03:07 PM
it will never end.

Ruledbyjames
08-18-2005, 03:28 PM
Truely sad.

Hamas will always attack aslong as Israel excists. This new guy who is running the show will be soon intraduced too Israeli helicopter fire. I wonder who will come out better?

hajaji
08-18-2005, 03:40 PM
it will never end.
It will end!.
Unfortunately Israel policy was too soft, this is why it did not end.
I hope, but do not have illusions, that after the first rocket or any other
terror attacks came form Gaze Israel will response decisively.

Laworkerbee
08-18-2005, 03:46 PM
it will never end.
It will end!.
Unfortunately Israel policy was too soft, this is why it did not end.
I hope, but do not have illusions, that after the first rocket or any other
terror attacks came form Gaze Israel will response decisively.

Isreal will have too, otherwise to be percieved as weak by the Arabs will invite more terror, more bloodshed.

Ever since you withdraw from Lebanon they believe they are winning.

StukaJr
08-18-2005, 03:55 PM
The pullout from the Gaza strip wins the battle of political opinion for Israel - it will be a crushing loss for the Hamas to instigate any future attacks... Israel can take back the Gaza strip in a heart beat in case of continued attacks and this time without much political pressure - think the Second Chechen campaign and what instigated it...

While there will still be "terrorist rights" organization like Amnesty crying bloody murder - Palestine will soon prove its inability to be an independent state.

While Israel appears weak in the eyes of its Arab enemies - it will win the upper hand in the opinions of the Western Nations... Personally, I don't think Israel cares about its perception in the Arab world p-)

hajaji
08-18-2005, 04:02 PM
it will never end.
It will end!.
Unfortunately Israel policy was too soft, this is why it did not end.
I hope, but do not have illusions, that after the first rocket or any other
terror attacks came form Gaze Israel will response decisively.

Isreal will have too, otherwise to be percieved as weak by the Arabs will invite more terror, more bloodshed.

Ever since you withdraw from Lebanon they believe they are winning.

Agree on this.
The arabs have different interpretations of our willing to make concessions.
The problem is not the people in Israel , the problem is the weak government.
Sharon think that we will remember him in positive way, but he is wrong.
The left will remember the Lebanon war and the right will remember Gaze pullout.

Kaplanr
08-18-2005, 04:48 PM
... Israel can take back the Gaza strip in a heart beat in case of continued attacks and this time without much political pressure -

Except next time it will be without the Gazans (Palestinians).

MacDaddy
08-18-2005, 07:45 PM
Israel took it once, they can do it again.

sp2c
08-18-2005, 07:54 PM
Im shocked! :roll:

Anyone that believes this pullout will bring peace is an idiot. Hammas states that their goal is the destruction of Israel.

maybe not peace but a more controllable war and therefore a more peacefull Israel, the settlements hog(ged) Isrraeli resources and military assets that are better spent elsewhere

militaryliy I think it's the smartest move Sharon has made since he became PM and it's politcallt sound as well, it's too bad for the people that actually have to leave their houses but I'd like to hear how they feel about their security 5 or 10 years down the road

Airborneranger4israel
08-18-2005, 08:29 PM
the goal of the pullout in gaza was mainly to reduce the strain on israel, it was costing millions of dollars in not only defesne but also infistructure and other forms of support to keep these settlers there, the pullout was not about giving in to hammas or islamic jihad in any way, be very clear that any and all terroist attacks will be responded to with percise and powerfull retaliation, also be clear we will never , ever ever ever, give up jerusalem.