video of israeli ambassador!

[UkrainianAmerican]

http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/nos/journaal/bb.zaterdag.2200.asf

hehe, all he did was turn of the lights, and threw and unplugged light into blood. S much for thrashisng
(fast forward to around 11:10)[/url]

[Bobs]

So you say that hes not trashing? :bash:

[mustamato]

http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/nos/journaal/bb.zaterdag.2200.asf

hehe, all he did was turn of the lights, and threw and unplugged light into blood. S much for thrashisng

So I can come home to your place and do that?

[SeanAshi]

So I can come home to your place and do that?

Sure! But first you have to cut my lawn :)

[Fioraon]

Good for him, I would have been standing right next to him with a smile.

[UkrainianAmerican]

btw in the news clip, there was some dome saxofonist saying "this is how democracy israel is" (nice grammar btw) and he was right.
Ambassador represent the DEMOCRATIC State of Israel, meaning he represents the opinions of the majority of israelis, in which case what he did was 100 percent democratic.

[TypNio]

You are insulting the majority of the Israeli citizens.
Do you suggest that they are illiterate and unable to read the text that belongs to the pool of blood?
The text that says that the woman murdered 19 innocent civilians, and that makes it perfectly clear that she is sailing the pool of blood, not being drowned by it?

(well, yes, she did "drowned" herself in it, by trying to solve anything with violence)

[UkrainianAmerican]

You are insulting the majority of the Israeli citizens.
Do you suggest that they are illiterate and unable to read the text that belongs to the pool of blood?
The text that says that the woman murdered 19 innocent civilians, and that makes it perfectly clear that she is sailing the pool of blood, not being drowned by it?

(well, yes, she did "drowned" herself in it, by trying to solve anything with violence)
First of all i am not Israeli (if u werent able to tell by my sn). Second of all the photo clearly glorifies her. Hell, I wish my graduation yearbook photo was that good.

[Groove]

It seems that he isnt a good diplomat. He should be a persona non grata in Sweden. As a dimplomat you have to be other than rowdy.

Groove

[OldRecon]

Do you know what country the artist that made that "blood pool" comes from (and still lives in I presume) and what race he is (if that should matter)? rofl rofl rofl rofl

All, I can say he's definitely not Swedish rofl.

[Javehn]

Yes , guy , thank you for the news. We established his indentity in 3 page of upper disscussion ( if you can call it that way) .That's another example of Israelies self blame complex .

[UkrainianAmerican]

Do you know what country the artist that made that "blood pool" comes from (and still lives in I presume) and what race he is (if that should matter)? rofl rofl rofl rofl

All, I can say he's definitely not Swedish rofl.
His identity is irrelevatn, but its the swedish museum displaying his **** (AND BANNING A PROISRAELI PIECE, BECAUSE sYRIA DIDNT LIKE IT.)

[UkrainianAmerican]

Yes , guy , thank you for the news. We established his indentity in 3 page of upper disscussion ( if you can call it that way) .That's another example of Israelies self blame complex .
I think all of western countries have the self-blame complex to some exztent. After all where do you think the Liberals get their votes from? rofl

[TypNio]

RussianAmerican, I think you misunderstood me, what I ment was that I don't believe that the majority of the Israelis would agree to have the artwork vandalized, if they got the oportunity to read the text that comes along with it.

The text is a combination of the tale Snowwhite and the life of the suicidebomber.

The bold lines are from Snowwhite, the others are refering to the suicidebombers actions or thoughts

”Yes”, said Snow White, "with all my heart”

Weeping bitterly, she added: "If our nation cannot realize its dream and the goals of the victims, and live in freedom and dignity, then let the whole world be erased"

Run away, then, you poor child

She secretly crossed into Israel, charged into a Haifa restaurant, shot a security guard, blew herself up and murdered 19 innocent civilians

as white as snow, as red as blood, and her hair was as black as ebony

And many people are indeed crying: the Zer Aviv family, the Almog family, and all the relatives and friends of the dead and the wounded





Do you see my point now? The text clearly shows that the pool of blood is created by the suicidebomber - and the people resorting to violence to solve problems!

Edit: Silly me... here is the full text for you to read the whole text in one piece. http://www.makingdifferences.com/site/calendar.php?lang=en&id=20

[Javehn]

I have to admit that the ambassador did very strange thing , which lead me , and many others to bellieve it has something to do with another occassion that gonna take place in Europe soon .

[TypNio]

Javehn, yes that is my thoughts too.
It is a very convenient reason to refuse to attend the upcomming international conference, and in the same turn make it someone elses fault.

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btw in the news clip, there was some dome saxofonist saying "this is how democracy israel is" (nice grammar btw) and he was right.
Ambassador represent the DEMOCRATIC State of Israel, meaning he represents the opinions of the majority of israelis, in which case what he did was 100 percent democratic.

well technically palestians live in israel and unless they get their own state, they are israelis too (stupid I know) therefore he does not represent all of israel blah blah blah

[Mr. Nielsen]

Javehn, yes that is my thoughts too.
It is a very convenient reason to refuse to attend the upcomming international conference, and in the same turn make it someone elses fault.

Which conference? There have been talk about a genocide conference, which the Israeli ambassador might not attend unless the art piece was removed.

[UkrainianAmerican]

btw in the news clip, there was some dome saxofonist saying "this is how democracy israel is" (nice grammar btw) and he was right.
Ambassador represent the DEMOCRATIC State of Israel, meaning he represents the opinions of the majority of israelis, in which case what he did was 100 percent democratic.

well technically palestians live in israel and unless they get their own state, they are israelis too (stupid I know) therefore he does not represent all of israel blah blah blah
Wrong biatch! They called the TERRITORIES for a reason u know. Its not israel, its just a buffer zone, hehe. (no offense meant with the biatch remark)

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falklands is a territory, it may have a governor but it's the UK that contols it.

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On the subject of the video, I believe the piece of art is offensive at first glance but that's because I don't know the message they were going for, I'm sure they would not have made it a shrine to terrorists and if they did they would not have invited the israeli ambassador. As for the ambassador, he was out of order, as a diplomat you watch what you say and do. ok he damaged the art, that is immature, but calling this a second holocaust is HIGHLY insulting, and for that he should be fired as an ambassador.

[He219]

falklands is a territory, it may have a governor but it's the UK that contols it.
Are the Falkland Islanders ( ;) ) British citizens, cut? I'm curious and don't know the answer.

Nice Video, btw.

The way I interpret the events: It's is a misunderstanding. The art itself had a message of non-violence, however the first impression gave offense to the Israeli Ambassador. Did I get it wrong?

:D

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falklands is a territory, it may have a governor but it's the UK that contols it.
Are the Falkland Islanders ( ;) ) British citizens, cut? I'm curious and don't know the answer.


I think they are, but there are only a couple thousand of them.

french dom-tom are and they vote in elections etc...



Nice Video, btw.

The way I interpret the events: It's is a misunderstanding. The art itself had a message of non-violence, however the first impression gave offense to the Israeli Ambassador. Did I get it wrong?

:D
I got the same impression, but it retaliation, I found what the ambassador said very insulting (relating sweden or even europe to the atrocities of the Nazi regime)

[TypNio]

cut and He219: pst pst! http://www.makingdifferences.com/site/calendar.php?lang=en&id=20

(the text belonging to the pool)

[He219]

This is getting WAY out of hand ......

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploads/2004/1/19/uploaded-42153_medium.jpg
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Artwork by Israeli artists Ori Melamed is displayed outside the Swedish Embassy on January 19, 2004 in Tel Aviv, Israel. His work is in response to the controversial artwork that was displayed in a museum in Stockholm, Sweden. On January 16, 2004, Zvi Mazel, Israeli ambassador to Stockholm was ejected from a museum for vandalising the exhibit. (***** Images)

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yes offensive i suppose, but it does say she "murdered 19 innocent civilians", snow white not so pure?

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This is getting WAY out of hand ......

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploads/2004/1/19/uploaded-42153_medium.jpg
Large (http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploads/2004/1/19/uploaded-42153_large.jpg)

Artwork by Israeli artists Ori Melamed is displayed outside the Swedish Embassy on January 19, 2004 in Tel Aviv, Israel. His work is in response to the controversial artwork that was displayed in a museum in Stockholm, Sweden. On January 16, 2004, Zvi Mazel, Israeli ambassador to Stockholm was ejected from a museum for vandalising the exhibit. (***** Images)

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accusing sweden of being Nazi is just going to stir up more hatred for israel.